Slash on Howard Stern tomorrow May 22nd 7am Eastern

[Hudson]

If this is the reason Axl is pissed at Slash, In my opinion, it is way way way overblown. At the end of the day Axl won, he maintained ownership rights to the name GNR and continues to record, perform, and benefit from GNR. If you really think about it, Slash and Duff are the ones that should hate and despise Axl even if the whole thing was orchestrated by Doug Goldstein, because Axl never came back to them to say hey I did not do this and lets get this thing straightened out. Slash and Duff are the ones that lost out, but they seem not to not have any animosity toward Axl. Instead Duff is cool with Axl and vice versa, but Axl still holds the grudge against Slash. Axl and Slash were always my favorite, but Axl has overreacted to this whole situation especially considering he has the upper hand. Its almost like he is trying to rub it in Slash's face for some reason. I think deep down Axl also resents that there is such a huge portion of the GNR fan base that continues to support Slash, that pushes for the reunion, and that it will not go away no matter what he does.

[Top-Hatted One]

Also found it amusing that he was so uncomfortable talking about someone trying to break up his marriage that he said he'd rather talk about Guns N' Roses.

Yea that was a great moment I was hysterical! We all know how much Slash hates talking about gnr

[Top-Hatted One]

Apparently Slash did Opie and Anthony right after Stern yesterday. Can't find that interview yet. But I listened to the end of O&A and they were talking about how Slash's "people" were difficult. He came on right after the band Train (who suck btw). The Train guys wanted a picture with Slash and his publicist or whoever wasn't having it. It sounded like it was a bit awkward from the way they were talking about it.

At the nyc show tuesday night. Slash & Myles stayed and signed autographs for every single person online maybe 50-60 people but his bodyguard would not allow pictures which sucks because its all i wanted. My phone battery had already died anyway

[m_rated96]

Howard stern is SHREDDING slash

[Ali]

If this is the reason Axl is pissed at Slash, In my opinion, it is way way way overblown. At the end of the day Axl won, he maintained ownership rights to the name GNR and continues to record, perform, and benefit from GNR. If you really think about it, Slash and Duff are the ones that should hate and despise Axl even if the whole thing was orchestrated by Doug Goldstein, because Axl never came back to them to say hey I did not do this and lets get this thing straightened out. Slash and Duff are the ones that lost out, but they seem not to not have any animosity toward Axl. Instead Duff is cool with Axl and vice versa, but Axl still holds the grudge against Slash. Axl and Slash were always my favorite, but Axl has overreacted to this whole situation especially considering he has the upper hand. Its almost like he is trying to rub it in Slash's face for some reason. I think deep down Axl also resents that there is such a huge portion of the GNR fan base that continues to support Slash, that pushes for the reunion, and that it will not go away no matter what he does.

Wow. I'm sorry, but that is one of the more incomprehensible and absurd takes in the situation I've read. Whether or not Axl "won out" is irrelevant. The point is that Slash's portrayal of the situation, either intentionally or not, has helped create the perception that Axl got the rights to the band name through blackmail. In fact, I had an email dialogue with a writer from the San Jose Mercury News who cited Slash's version of events as some sort of proof that Axl had blackmailed Slash and Duff into getting the rights to the name. I think its natural to be upset at someone for describing a situation in such a way that leads to a perception you did something that was illegal.

Ali

[Hudson]

Ali, So to your point, if Axl is upset about the perception that Slash gave about how he obtained the rights to the GnR name then all he would have to do is come out and say that's not what happened. I understand this situation has 3 versions Axl's, Slash's, and the truth. My point is I think we can understand both these guys being pissed at each other when the break up went down but after 15 years or whatever it is now, it's a little absurd that Axl still despises Slash to the point he could not stand on a stage to accept and award with him for 5 min. I think the punishment outweighs the crime. Axl talks about moving on but he won't give closure to the situation. If he would do what he does with Duff and Izzy with Slash I think he could really put his past behind him and stop dealing with all the slash drama. That's probably the main reason he refuses to properly promote GnR and do press and media outlets because of dreading all the slash questions.

[AxlsMainMan]

if Axl is upset about the perception that Slash gave about how he obtained the rights to the GnR name then all he would have to do is come out and say that's not what happened.

Don't you think the press would then instantaneously claim that Axl is lying? What possible motivation would they have for embracing Axl's perspective when Slash has essentially been the lapdog of the media for the last 15 years?

Most people with an elementary grasp of law know that a contract signed under coercion or duress is not valid, so why should Axl even have to come out and say that's not what happened? Why not let basic logic take its course?

[Ali]

Ali, So to your point, if Axl is upset about the perception that Slash gave about how he obtained the rights to the GnR name then all he would have to do is come out and say that's not what happened. I understand this situation has 3 versions Axl's, Slash's, and the truth. My point is I think we can understand both these guys being pissed at each other when the break up went down but after 15 years or whatever it is now, it's a little absurd that Axl still despises Slash to the point he could not stand on a stage to accept and award with him for 5 min. I think the punishment outweighs the crime. Axl talks about moving on but he won't give closure to the situation. If he would do what he does with Duff and Izzy with Slash I think he could really put his past behind him and stop dealing with all the slash drama. That's probably the main reason he refuses to properly promote GnR and do press and media outlets because of dreading all the slash questions.

He DID do that in 2008 in his "tip of the iceberg" post.  Maybe it would make more sense to you that Axl is angry, but was willing to forgive and move on in 2001 and have Slash play on Chinese Democracy if Slash apologized for spinning that situation the way he did.  According to Marc Canter, that's exactly what Axl said after RIR III and when Marc told Slash about that, he balked at it completely.  The point is Axl was willing to mend fences in 2001, but that didn't happen.  The difference with Duff is that Duff did not describe the situation like Slash did.  Duff described the situation more completely, saying that there was an intermediary that was involved in passing along the contract documentation, and that to this day he wasn't sure who it was that pushed for the contract to be signed that night before the show. 

Maybe if Slash had handled the situation and talked about it more like Duff, things would be different now.

Ali

[LunsJail]

Maybe if Slash had handled the situation and talked about it more like Duff, things would be different now.

Ali

Or maybe if Axl had handled major band decisions in a different way than having a manager hand someone a contract hours before a show, things would be different now too.

[Top-Hatted One]

Maybe if Slash had handled the situation and talked about it more like Duff, things would be different now.

Ali

Or maybe if Axl had handled major band decisions in a different way than having a manager hand someone a contract hours before a show, things would be different now too.

+1 all lot of things were being handled wrong during the illusions tour not just "the contract"

[LunsJail]

if Axl is upset about the perception that Slash gave about how he obtained the rights to the GnR name then all he would have to do is come out and say that's not what happened.

Don't you think the press would then instantaneously claim that Axl is lying? What possible motivation would they have for embracing Axl's perspective when Slash has essentially been the lapdog of the media for the last 15 years?

Most people with an elementary grasp of law know that a contract signed under coercion or duress is not valid, so why should Axl even have to come out and say that's not what happened? Why not let basic logic take its course?

Let me see if I'm following you. The public should just know (without Axl coming out and saying it) that this didn't happen because it would have been the incorrect move from a legal standpoint. And Axl has never and will never do anything incorrectly. That's your idea of basic logic?

[Ali]

Maybe if Slash had handled the situation and talked about it more like Duff, things would be different now.

Ali

Or maybe if Axl had handled major band decisions in a different way than having a manager hand someone a contract hours before a show, things would be different now too.

Maybe so.  But, the unfortunate thing is that Axl had no way of knowing how Doug Goldstein and/or his underlings would handle that situation (i.e. implying that Axl wouldn't go on stage if the contract wasn't signed).

Ali

[Genesis]

Whatever happened in the past is the past. The fact that Axl cannot get over it and chose not to show up at the HOF event with some long winded letter as an excuse, was just petty and disrespectful...

[Ali]

if Axl is upset about the perception that Slash gave about how he obtained the rights to the GnR name then all he would have to do is come out and say that's not what happened.

Don't you think the press would then instantaneously claim that Axl is lying? What possible motivation would they have for embracing Axl's perspective when Slash has essentially been the lapdog of the media for the last 15 years?

Most people with an elementary grasp of law know that a contract signed under coercion or duress is not valid, so why should Axl even have to come out and say that's not what happened? Why not let basic logic take its course?

Let me see if I'm following you. The public should just know (without Axl coming out and saying it) that this didn't happen because it would have been the incorrect move from a legal standpoint. And Axl has never and will never do anything incorrectly. That's your idea of basic logic?

No, not that it's "incorrect".  That it would make the contract legally null and void.  The contract was never rendered null and void, obviously.

Ali

[Ali]

Whatever happened in the past is the past. The fact that Axl cannot get over it and chose not to show up at the HOF event with some long winded letter as an excuse, was just petty and disrespectful...

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.  But, Axl does not have to share your opinion.

Ali

[Genesis]

Yup, I'm pretty sure, Axl is going to take that opinion to his grave... Pretty sad way to live if you ask me. Also my opinion.

[LunsJail]

if Axl is upset about the perception that Slash gave about how he obtained the rights to the GnR name then all he would have to do is come out and say that's not what happened.

Don't you think the press would then instantaneously claim that Axl is lying? What possible motivation would they have for embracing Axl's perspective when Slash has essentially been the lapdog of the media for the last 15 years?

Most people with an elementary grasp of law know that a contract signed under coercion or duress is not valid, so why should Axl even have to come out and say that's not what happened? Why not let basic logic take its course?

Let me see if I'm following you. The public should just know (without Axl coming out and saying it) that this didn't happen because it would have been the incorrect move from a legal standpoint. And Axl has never and will never do anything incorrectly. That's your idea of basic logic?

No, not that it's "incorrect".  That it would make the contract legally null and void.  The contract was never rendered null and void, obviously.

Ali

Ok, I see that now. But it would help public perception had Axl gave his side of the story a few years earlier.

Whatever happened in the past is the past. The fact that Axl cannot get over it and chose not to show up at the HOF event with some long winded letter as an excuse, was just petty and disrespectful...

I don't think the HOF thing is that big of a deal. It would be cool if Axl and Slash could be on speaking terms but I don't think there's any desire from either side to work together again. From this interview it didn't sound like Slash was all that stoked about the HOF going in either. Sounds like it was a bunch of industry guys in suits running that show. But he's not good at saying no.

[WAR41]

Howard stern is SHREDDING slash

If you are talking about today's show then you listened to repeat clips.  Howard doesn't work on Thursdays anymore. 

If you are talking about Tuesday's show, I don't remember any shredding.  He mentioned how he could lock all of the GNR guys in a room and get them to sort through their differences, even calling Slash out, but it was nothing too bad.  Although his comment to Slash about how his "sobriety is tenuous at best" was hilarious. 

[Ali]

Yup, I'm pretty sure, Axl is going to take that opinion to his grave... Pretty sad way to live if you ask me. Also my opinion.

Hey, I don't disagree with you.  It would probably be better to let go of the anger, although no one really knows how much it weighs on him these days.  But, Axl doesn't have to agree.  It's his life and his emotions.  He's entitled to feel however he does or hold onto how he feels however he chooses to do so. Only he has to bear the burden of that.

Ali

[LunsJail]

Howard stern is SHREDDING slash

If you are talking about today's show then you listened to repeat clips.  Howard doesn't work on Thursdays anymore. 

If you are talking about Tuesday's show, I don't remember any shredding.  He mentioned how he could lock all of the GNR guys in a room and get them to sort through their differences, even calling Slash out, but it was nothing too bad.  Although his comment to Slash about how his "sobriety is tenuous at best" was hilarious. 

I don't think he shredded either. Stern is aggressive with all his guests. He uses it for comedic effect to some degree. People know that before they go on there. It may seem a little surprising if you don't listen to him much.