Tiger Woods

[pilferk]

Look's like he's going to take some time off now and hide! 

Didn't how he came out very quickly to say how all of these reports were malicious attacks on him and how denied such acts, and they were all untrue. Now, he's got shit on his face and rightfully so. He thought he could use his "power" and bully his way to make all of this go away. Well, this asshole proved to be WRONG!

The PGA survived before him, and they could survive he he disappeared forever!

Hopefully, Elin is on her way out and dumps this jerk-off for good!

Um, I can't recall Tiger denying anything about the affairs (his denial was specifically referring to any claims of physical abuse or his wife attacking him with a golf club). 

He admitted to the "transgressions" as soon as the first 2 women came out with their stories.  And admitted it again, in more detail, the other day.

Again I say: So what.   Man cheated on his wife.  Not my business, and, really, not my concern.  It's not my marriage, or my life.  And it's not anything all that unusual. 

[pilferk]

Sorry Axl4Prez2004, why don't you first get your facts straight and now apologize to me! You shot off your mouth before reading the statement this asshole released. Now, let's see if you'll take your own advice and be a man, and apologize.

Part of the statement released, reads as followed:

This is a private matter and I want to keep it that way. Although I understand there is curiosity, the many false, unfounded and malicious rumors that are currently circulating about my family and me are irresponsible.

Source: http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/tiger-releases-statement

You might want to investigate the context of the quote and not read it in the midst of tabloid spin.  He was talking about the rumors that there was physical violence involved in the accident, specifically that he and his wife had a physical altercation, and she was coming after him with a golf club.  THAT was the rumor circulating widely the day after the report (and when he made his statment).   

[Drew]

I believe the rumors of his infidelity started coming out first, and than the rumors of domestic abuse and why she went ballistic on him.

Take his last statement where he admits his transgressions. He knew from the very beginning what he had done was now out and public information and there was no way he could bully his way out of it and make it go away.

Another source from USA Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/2009-11-29-woods-crash-probe_N.htm?imw=Y&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Usatoday-MostViewedArticles+%28USATODAY.com%3A+Most+Popular%29

And another source from ABC News:
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wirestory?id=9213218&page=3

And another source from ESPN:
http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4698237&campaign=rss&source=GOLFHeadlines

And another source from Inside Golf:
http://www.insidegolf.ca/content/view/109028/424/

Shall I continue?

pilferk, you continue to acknowledge you don't care, it's none of your business, nor your concern, yet you still show that you seem to care a lot.

[Axl4Prez2004]

Drew, you just don't get it do you?  You seriously refuse to acknowledge Pilferk's and my own reasoning (which is correct).  Tiger didn't lie and he didn't deny the affairs, the affairs hadn't even come out yet!  Even when the affairs came to light he didn't deny them.  Go buy a fucking clue. 

You should be a reporter for Fox News dude.   

[Drew]

How am I refusing to acknowledge anything?

Reports of the affair with Rachel Uchitel were circulating before the Thanksgiving incident. How long did it take him to confess his affairs? How many statements did he release before he came clean? He was hoping it would all blow over but it didn't. He knew what the rumors were and instead of being honest, he attacked everyone else instead! Did he really think that there were just rumors of domestic abuse?

How about you go by yourself a fucking clue! Why is my reasoning so far fetched. You take this jerk as some innocent clueless fool of what's going on in his own life.

Go back to your job at the U.N. spreading lies with your corrupt, hypocritical phonies! 

[pilferk]

I believe the rumors of his infidelity started coming out first, and than the rumors of domestic abuse and why she went ballistic on him.

Take his last statement where he admits his transgressions. He knew from the very beginning what he had done was now out and public information and there was no way he could bully his way out of it and make it go away.

Another source from USA Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/2009-11-29-woods-crash-probe_N.htm?imw=Y&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Usatoday-MostViewedArticles+%28USATODAY.com%3A+Most+Popular%29

And another source from ABC News:
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wirestory?id=9213218&page=3

And another source from ESPN:
http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4698237&campaign=rss&source=GOLFHeadlines

And another source from Inside Golf:
http://www.insidegolf.ca/content/view/109028/424/

Shall I continue?

Note every single source says "may have involved" when referencing his comments.

Of course, they ignore the fact they also very well "may have involved" the rumors that there was a domestic incident surrounding the crash, rampant illegal drug use, attempted battery, and a host of other things.  You know, the far more prevalent rumors circulating the day of the crash.  Because, of course, that would be the less sensational assumption.

You want to convince yourself that he was lying...more power to you.   But it's pretty easy to see the logic and reasoning behind the contrary.  You've yet to provide any real evidence that he absolutely was referring to the rumors YOU think he was...and it's not like you can read the guys mind. 

pilferk, you continue to acknowledge you don't care, it's none of your business, nor your concern, yet you still show that you seem to care a lot.

How so?  Because I'm discussing how it's really not all that big a story, really not all that important to anyone, and doesn't effect anyone else's life?

I don't care whether he did it, or didn't do it.  That's not nearly the same thing as being willing to discuss the issue especially in terms of the way the media has taken to handling it like it's a national crisis.  He cheated.  Lots of guys do.  That's between them and their wives.   Should it be a national story whenever it happens? 

[pilferk]

How am I refusing to acknowledge anything?

Reports of the affair with Rachel Uchitel were circulating before the Thanksgiving incident. How long did it take him to confess his affairs? How many statements did he release before he came clean? He was hoping it would all blow over but it didn't. He knew what the rumors were and instead of being honest, he attacked everyone else instead! Did he really think that there were just rumors of domestic abuse?

There were LOTS of rumors out there.  The infidelity rumors were just one set of them and, at that point, the less prevalent and less credible ones.  Thus, it's perfectly acceptable to address the rumors the way he did.  Yes, there was one set that was true...but given the fact the statement concerned the crash, and the infidelity rumors really....don't.  They didn't directly cause the crash.  There were at least 3 sets that we know, now, were not true, and they all WERE directly related potential causes of the crash. 

Your argument is circular.  Because if he came out and said "All the rumors are true", wouldn't he likewise have been lying?  Becuase a good chunk of them (most, I would say) were not.

Was he telling the entire truth?  No...he was being vague, as most celebrities are when crafting PR statements in matters like this.  Again...so what?  Are they obligated to share every single intimate detail of their lives and lay out, step by step, to anyone interested their every waking and living moment? 

How about you go by yourself a fucking clue! Why is my reasoning so far fetched. You take this jerk as some innocent clueless fool of what's going on in his own life.

Go back to your job at the U.N. spreading lies with your corrupt, hypocritical phonies! 

Ahh yes..rather than craft a coherent arguemnt, decent to hostile personal attacks.  That's the way to make your case....

[Drew]

Ahh yes..rather than craft a coherent arguemnt, decent to hostile personal attacks.  That's the way to make your case....

Now your showing your hypocrisy. You point out a comment I made to use against me but nothing was said of Axl4Prez2004's attack? I guess his comment was a craft, coherent argument and not a decent to hostile personal attacks.

You should be a reporter for Fox News dude.

I'm sorry, I can't just sit back and beleive that this guy was only relating to "false" and "malicious" rumors solely about a car wreck he had.

[AxlsMainMan]

Tiger Woods Wife Outrun - The Game:

http://www.break.com/games/tiger-woods-wife-outrun.html

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Tiger Woods Wife Outrun - The Game:

http://www.break.com/games/tiger-woods-wife-outrun.html

My high score was 100.

[Genesis]

Accenture ends Tiger Woods sponsorship deal

The giant management consultancy firm Accenture has ended its sponsorship of Tiger Woods, saying the golfer is "no longer the right representative".

Woods has been engulfed in a media storm since a disturbance outside his house two weeks ago. He has since admitted being unfaithful to his wife.

Woods is taking an indefinite break from golf to try to save his marriage.

Accenture is the second sponsor to react to the news. Gillette has already said it would cut back Woods' role.

"For the past six years, Accenture and Tiger Woods have had a very successful sponsorship arrangement and his achievements on the golf course have been a powerful metaphor for business success in Accenture's advertising," the company said in a statement.

"However, given the circumstances of the last two weeks, after careful consideration and analysis, the company has determined that he is no longer the right representative for its advertising.

Accenture said that "it wishes only the best for Tiger Woods and his family".

"Accenture has made a decision to not continue with their sponsorship. We are disappointed but respect their decision," said Mark Steinberg, Woods' agent.

One analyst said that the problem for advertisers was not only Woods' image, but also the fact that he is not active in the sport at present.

Accenture "had tied everything in their campaign to Tiger Woods," Rick Burton, a professor of sports management at Syracuse University, told the Associated Press.

"If he's not golfing, those ads don't make sense."

Billion dollars

Among his other sponsors, the US phone firm AT&T has said it is "presently evaluating our ongoing relationship" with Woods, but his main sponsor Nike said it was standing firm and offered him its "full support".

Until the scandal broke, Woods was one of the biggest targets for global corporations. Links with an array of brands - also including Electronic Arts video games, Gatorade drinks, and Tag Heuer watches - have helped him amass a fortune.

The Associated Press says he is believed to be the first sports star to have earned $1bn (?600m).
   
Woods, 33, is considered one of the best golfers of all time and was thought by many experts to be likely to overhaul Jack Nicklaus' record of 18 major championship victories.

He has won 14 so far, but BBC golf commentator Peter Alliss believes it is possible he will not play again.

"He's going to have to put up with a lot of nonsense and ridicule and comment for the next 20 to 30 years and it depends how well he tackles that," he said.

"He's in a very, nasty awkward position of his own making, I'm afraid.

"You have to wonder about all sorts of things that we're not privy to - his state of mind, whether he wants to continue, whether he's thinking of early retirement."

The storm blew up after Woods crashed his car into a fire hydrant and a tree outside his Florida home at the end of November.

Rumours of an argument in the Woods household led to media allegations about extra-marital affairs. Lurid headlines have linked him to a string of women.

On Friday, Woods admitted for the first time that he had been unfaithful to his wife Elin.

"I am deeply aware of the disappointment and hurt that my infidelity has caused to so many people, most of all my wife and children," said Woods in a statement.

[D]

If i were Tiger, I'd fucking play and tell everyone to fuck off Kobe style.

its still nobodies business

People can judge tiger all they want, but I bet temptation when u are that rich and famous is a motherfucker and his wife probably quit giving it up.


I support tiger Woods 100 percent.

[Genesis]

^ Apparently, it's not up to him. His wife has 'banned' him from playing until she and the kids can be with him full time.

[D]

Id just divorce her. Its obvious he has no love or respect for her.

he better have one hell of a prenup though.

I always have a rule. I'd never cheat, but I think if u cheat, u should at least cheat up..... meaning hotter than what u are with.

look at some of these cows and skanks he was banging... crazy shit

[Genesis]

He could divorce her and he has a prenup, but he's afraid of losing the kids. That's the only problem for him. I agree he is a stupid idiot though. Some of the women do look like cows, some are porn stars and it seems he never used protection with anybody. Eewww.

[pilferk]

Now your showing your hypocrisy. You point out a comment I made to use against me but nothing was said of Axl4Prez2004's attack? I guess his comment was a craft, coherent argument and not a decent to hostile personal attacks.

Since you didn't quote anyone, I wasn't exactly sure who you were replying to.  So I thought the comment may have been directed toward me...thus the reason I commented on it.

I know Axl4Prez's comments were not directed at me....so I leave you to fight your own battles.   

[pilferk]

Accenture ends Tiger Woods sponsorship deal

The one endorsement deal (and one I had no clue about...and have never seen an ad for) that makes sense for him to lose.  Remember, earlier, when I said nobody was advertising based on his character?  I was wrong.  After seeing this companies ads over the past day or two (since the announcement), I guess there was one!  It's a pretty minor deal in the empire, from the sounds of things....though what's funny is that apparently this firm has doubled it's business since signing and using Tiger in their ads.

And Gatorade, Nike, Gillette, and others are still sticking with him. Gillette is not going to use him until he's golfing again (which makes sense, really...though I'm sure people will view that as an "excuse").  Until the BIG sponsors (and AT&T still might go that way) start dropping him....he's not losing all that much.

[pilferk]

If i were Tiger, I'd fucking play and tell everyone to fuck off Kobe style.

its still nobodies business

People can judge tiger all they want, but I bet temptation when u are that rich and famous is a motherfucker and his wife probably quit giving it up.


I support tiger Woods 100 percent.

I agree, to a point.  IF Tiger wants to play, he should do exactly what you propose.  IF Tiger doesn't want to play, and really wants to work on his family situation, then he should.  "Personal Reasons" have been used as a reason for golfers to leave the tour for a period of time before.  This doesn't seem to be any different, to me.

I support Tiger's right to have a private life, and make his own decisions, without the burden of the media circus, 100%.

[pilferk]

^ Apparently, it's not up to him. His wife has 'banned' him from playing until she and the kids can be with him full time.

Again, his life, his decisions.  If that "banning" holds sway with him, then so be it.  It wouldn't with me, but I'm not Tiger.

IF the rumor is true, that is.

[Genesis]

Accenture ends Tiger Woods sponsorship deal

The one endorsement deal (and one I had no clue about...and have never seen an ad for) that makes sense for him to lose.  Remember, earlier, when I said nobody was advertising based on his character?  I was wrong.  After seeing this companies ads over the past day or two (since the announcement), I guess there was one!  It's a pretty minor deal in the empire, from the sounds of things....though what's funny is that apparently this firm has doubled it's business since signing and using Tiger in their ads.

Accenture is one of the big ones, along with AT&T. It's a major outsourcing firm active in India and other countries, which is why you must not have heard about it. All their ads revolve around him, all their office buildings are covered with gigantic Tiger Woods posters.  Even their service marks are: "Go on, be a Tiger" and "We know what it takes to be a Tiger". I'm assuming that endorsement was worth quite a bit. For Nike, it's not a big deal because it's only one sport that they sponsor affected. They have similar huge deals with other stars in almost all major sports, so they can afford to put up with him. Not the case with Accenture.

^ Apparently, it's not up to him. His wife has 'banned' him from playing until she and the kids can be with him full time.

Again, his life, his decisions.  If that "banning" holds sway with him, then so be it.  It wouldn't with me, but I'm not Tiger.

IF the rumor is true, that is.

It will hold sway, since she undoubtedly has the control over his children. Again, YES, I know, it's not your decision etc., I was just posting what has been reported.