Tiger Woods

[pilferk]

Although I agree that what he does in private is his business, it has a far more serious impact. He could lose the endorsement deals that makes him the richest athlete in the world. It will be interesting to see who dumps him first.

But, again...why should I care?  It's not my money, it's his.  Sure, there MIGHT be consequences TO HIM...but then, I can't think of many of his endorsement deals that are for "family friendly" products.  The guy's not a spokesman for Disney.....

I'd be surprised if he loses much, actually.  This isn't like Kobe, where he was accused of rape or some other illegal act. The only "crime" he committed amounts to a speeding ticket.  In terms of the "story", he simply got caught with his pants down.

[sandman]

he won't lose much in endorsements. Nike loves him - they've made a fortune off of him. although i'm guessing they'll stop showing those ads with kids saying "i am tiger woods." 

his actual loss is the millions he may be giving his wife. his pre-nup was SOLID, and i think i heard he's making it far more favorable for her, in addition to instant payment of millions. which is kinda funny in so many ways.

these mega stars should go the Gene Simmons route. he's got it all figured out.

the Ryder Cup is like the Woods' mansion...it's where Tiger goes to get beat up by Europeans. heyooooooooo!

[D]

i still think this was all bullshit

I think his wife hit him in the head with a golf club which made him semi Concussed

then he was running to his car to get away from her and she broke out the back while he was trying to pull out...then in his semi concussed state, he wrecked...


the fuck is that skinny chick gonna drag a 200lbs guy out of the back of an escalade?

[Drew]

Apparently, Tiger told a friend, ?I have to run to Zales to get a 'Kobe Special.?

Hahahaha! 

Hopefully, Elin will still tell that loser piece of shit to fuck off! 

[Axl4Prez2004]

Apparently, Tiger told a friend, ?I have to run to Zales to get a 'Kobe Special.?

Hahahaha! 

Hopefully, Elin will still tell that loser piece of shit to fuck off! 

Nice Drew.  "Loser piece of shit."  Half the population should be considered "loser pieces of shit" I guess.  Fair enough.

[Drew]

Nice Drew.  "Loser piece of shit."  Half the population should be considered "loser pieces of shit" I guess.  Fair enough.

This thread is not about half the population, but about one certain piece of shit! Did you not notice the title heading, Axl4Prez2004?

[Drew]

The tally list is now up to 9 girls! 

At Least 9 Women Linked to Tiger Woods in Alleged Affairs

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/tiger-woods-women-linked-alleged-affairs/story?id=9270076

[Genesis]

I guess I was right:

Gatorade drops Tiger Woods sponsorship.

[pilferk]

I guess I was right:

Gatorade drops Tiger Woods sponsorship.

Read the whole article.

They're not dropping his sponsorship deal, or his endorsement deal.  They're eliminating ONE drink (Focus) which, FYI, they advised retailers was going to be pulled about 90 days ago.  I think it's probably hard to draw a parallel, given the time line.  And given the below average sales of the product, I'm not surprised (again, they quote the sales data in the article).  They have a new line of "stuff" launching around superbowl time.

The rest is sort of speculation.  The fact the last prime time commercial aired a little over a week ago and a half ago is slightly misleading.  I've NEVER seen Tiger all that much during prime time, unless a major sporting event was on.  I seem to remember a Tiger commercial this past weekend while watching the Giants/Cowboys game, though.....

I'm not saying you're wrong.  Not yet, anyway.  But I don't think this is really evidence you're right, either.

[Genesis]

To me it sounds too coincidental. I think they're saying "We were going to drop it anyway" just to save face.

[pilferk]

To me it sounds too coincidental. I think they're saying "We were going to drop it anyway" just to save face.

Then how do you explain them alerting big box retailers about 90 days ago that they'd no longer be able to order the product after mid-December?

This particular article is SPINNING it so you think exactly what you do.  With a wink wink nudge nudge.  But they're not telling you the WHOLE truth.

[Genesis]

To me it sounds too coincidental. I think they're saying "We were going to drop it anyway" just to save face.

Then how do you explain them alerting big box retailers about 90 days ago that they'd no longer be able to order the product after mid-December?

Ah, I didn't know that. You're right then.

[pilferk]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34333483/ns/business-sports_biz/

Slightly better accounting.

I coulda SWORE I saw the Tiger Gilette ad during the Giants/Cowboys game, though.

The decision to drop the drink, called Tiger Focus, was first reported by trade publication Beverage Digest in an issue dated Nov. 25, two days before the incident at Woods' home in Florida. The publication's editor, John Sicher, said he learned of the decision the week of Nov. 9.

One thing...I said it was 90 days ago that the big box retailers were told they couldn't order any more.  That's wrong.  It was about 60 days ago.  Mid-October.

The other thing, though...none of that costs Tiger any money, FYI.  He's still getting his endorsement money...til someone officially drops him.

Couple good articles on this subject:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34223570/ns/business-sports_biz/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242191/ns/business-sports_biz/

[GeorgeSteele]

Interesting that this story still has such legs.  So many major athletes have had marital indiscretions (Shaquille O'Neal, Michael Jordan, Lance Armstrong, etc.) without even close to this level of attention.  Other than maybe Barack Obama, I don't know who would generate bigger headlines from acts of adultery.

[pilferk]

Interesting that this story still has such legs.  So many major athletes have had marital indiscretions (Shaquille O'Neal, Michael Jordan, Lance Armstrong, etc.) without even close to this level of attention.  Other than maybe Barack Obama, I don't know who would generate bigger headlines from acts of adultery.

You've got a few things at work here:

1) The sheer NUMBER of apparent "transgressions", and the women coming forward, and the steady stream of info.

2) Tiger's (up til now) pretty squeaky clean public reputation (though he's notorious for being a bastard on the course).

3) The fact no other "scandal du jour" has come to the fore front to replace it.

It's funny I stumbled into this thread at exactly this moment.  Kathy Lee Gifford is currently talking about her disgust and distaste for what is going on.  What's funny is....Frank hasn't exactly always been faithful to Kathy Lee.  There some well documented "transgressions" on his part.  And yet...during all of that...she was supportive and saying he was misunderstood, etc.  Funny, though, when it's someone else involved.

That's what gets me in all this....the hypocrisy. 

[Axl4Prez2004]

Interesting that this story still has such legs.  So many major athletes have had marital indiscretions (Shaquille O'Neal, Michael Jordan, Lance Armstrong, etc.) without even close to this level of attention.  Other than maybe Barack Obama, I don't know who would generate bigger headlines from acts of adultery.

You've got a few things at work here:

1) The sheer NUMBER of apparent "transgressions", and the women coming forward, and the steady stream of info.

2) Tiger's (up til now) pretty squeaky clean public reputation (though he's notorious for being a bastard on the course).

3) The fact no other "scandal du jour" has come to the fore front to replace it.

It's funny I stumbled into this thread at exactly this moment.  Kathy Lee Gifford is currently talking about her disgust and distaste for what is going on.  What's funny is....Frank hasn't exactly always been faithful to Kathy Lee.  There some well documented "transgressions" on his part.  And yet...during all of that...she was supportive and saying he was misunderstood, etc.  Funny, though, when it's someone else involved.

That's what gets me in all this....the hypocrisy. 

Pilferk, your posts on this matter (as in most) have been superbly written. 
  Hopefully, Kathy Lee's disgust and distaste is rooted in the media's handling of the private matter...if she's throwing stones at Tiger, someone should play back the ol' audio of Frank asking for and getting anal from the airline stewardess back in the day. 
Tiger fucked around on his wife, holy shit!  Really, who gives a fuck?  Did he encourage other people to engage in this bad behavior?  Not that I'm aware of.  Is it a personal matter?  Hell yes.  Is GatorAde or Nike going to dump him?  Hell no.  If they do, they are pretty fucking stupid...but they won't, because they're not stupid.

btw, other golfers are starting to realize why this is very bad news for them...when Tiger plays, the ratings go way up.  Without Tiger (now that Tiger has gone on an indefinite leave from golf to work on his marriage) there will be less money/less ads/less spectators/etc./etc.  The man has dominated the sport of golf like no man in the history of golf. 

Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, etc., the list goes on and on.  All the greatest athletes have, do, and will fuck around.  It doesn't make it right, but it doesn't make me appreciate these athletes any less.  Personal respect, sure.  He definitely takes a hit there.  The guy's been known as virtually super-human for the past decade...but as we get older, we learn that nobody's perfect.    

[Drew]

Look's like he's going to take some time off now and hide! 

Didn't how he came out very quickly to say how all of these reports were malicious attacks on him and how denied such acts, and they were all untrue. Now, he's got shit on his face and rightfully so. He thought he could use his "power" and bully his way to make all of this go away. Well, this asshole proved to be WRONG!

The PGA survived before him, and they could survive he he disappeared forever!

Hopefully, Elin is on her way out and dumps this jerk-off for good!

[Axl4Prez2004]

Look's like he's going to take some time off now and hide! 

Didn't how he came out very quickly to say how all of these reports were malicious attacks on him and how denied such acts, and they were all untrue. Now, he's got shit on his face and rightfully so. He thought he could use his "power" and bully his way to make all of this go away. Well, this asshole proved to be WRONG!

The PGA survived before him, and they could survive he he disappeared forever!

Hopefully, Elin is on her way out and dumps this jerk-off for good!

Sorry Drew, part of what you said is bullshit.  This part in particular from you, "denied such acts, and they were all untrue."
Show me the proof.  Give me the source.  If not, admit you're wrong like a man.

[Drew]

Sorry Axl4Prez2004, why don't you first get your facts straight and now apologize to me! You shot off your mouth before reading the statement this asshole released. Now, let's see if you'll take your own advice and be a man, and apologize.

Part of the statement released, reads as followed:

This is a private matter and I want to keep it that way. Although I understand there is curiosity, the many false, unfounded and malicious rumors that are currently circulating about my family and me are irresponsible.

Source: http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/tiger-releases-statement

[pilferk]

Pilferk, your posts on this matter (as in most) have been superbly written. 
  Hopefully, Kathy Lee's disgust and distaste is rooted in the media's handling of the private matter...if she's throwing stones at Tiger, someone should play back the ol' audio of Frank asking for and getting anal from the airline stewardess back in the day. 

No, she was basically calling Tiger a scum bag, saying she really didn't like him.  Feeling sorry for the wife and saying she shouldn't put up with it.  You know...all the things she DIDN'T say when it was Frank.