Guns tour in the works???

[killingvector]

Why does GnR need to release an album to put on a kickass show for the fans?  I don't see how the two are related.  I've seen them 5 times and whether or not the album was out didn't ruin anything for me.   This is a kickass band and anytime I have a chance to see them, I will.   Album or not.   People put everything on this record and I think we all need to just chill on that idea and let it happen when it happens.   Something is obviously holding it up, and we don't know the details of whats going on, but if the possibility of seeing the band live comes?  GO SEE THEM!

Most of us did in 01/02/ 06, and 07.

Do you think the band can continue to exist in its present form without an album? is the point to tour or to produce albums and tour? The current lineup's very existence depends on the release of Chinese Democracy, not to mention its success or failure. Another tour without an announcement is worrisome, to say the least.

[Jim Bob]

Why does GnR need to release an album to put on a kickass show for the fans?  I don't see how the two are related.  I've seen them 5 times and whether or not the album was out didn't ruin anything for me.   This is a kickass band and anytime I have a chance to see them, I will.   Album or not.   People put everything on this record and I think we all need to just chill on that idea and let it happen when it happens.   Something is obviously holding it up, and we don't know the details of whats going on, but if the possibility of seeing the band live comes?  GO SEE THEM!

Most of us did in 01/02/ 06, and 07.

Do you think the band can continue to exist in its present form without an album? is the point to tour or to produce albums and tour? The current lineup's very existence depends on the release of Chinese Democracy, not to mention its success or failure. Another tour without an announcement is worrisome, to say the least.

nah, you're taking the whole album thing too seriously.  any chance to see GnR is a good thing, album or not.

[PrimaDonna]

SERIOUSLY JARMO AND CO:

I DID NOT CLICK ON THIS TOPIC TO READ & PAGES OF BITCHING FROM YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU BETTER STOP OR THIS FORUM IS GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL. IT'S RIDICULOUS!!! YOU RUIN MANY THREADS A WEEK!

[mrbucketfoot]

SERIOUSLY JARMO AND CO:

I DID NOT CLICK ON THIS TOPIC TO READ & PAGES OF BITCHING FROM YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU BETTER STOP OR THIS FORUM IS GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL. IT'S RIDICULOUS!!! YOU RUIN MANY THREADS A WEEK!

[Kaleigh]

Why does GnR need to release an album to put on a kickass show for the fans?  I don't see how the two are related.

Exactly.  I've said multiple times since 06 that I would choose a tour over CD.  The band is fucking amazing live, and it's an extremely unique experience to be at one of their concerts - I've never been able to recreate it. 

[Jim Bob]

Why does GnR need to release an album to put on a kickass show for the fans?  I don't see how the two are related.

Exactly.  I've said multiple times since 06 that I would choose a tour over CD.  The band is fucking amazing live, and it's an extremely unique experience to be at one of their concerts - I've never been able to recreate it. 

and i dont get how someone can claim to be a fan of these guys yet insist that they shouldn't tour unless they have an album.   fuck that!   GnR doesn't have to follow anyone's rules.. they put on a mind-blowing show and its an incredible experience and I wouldn't trade any of the shows I was at for an album.

[Nytunz]

so, any other sign on an announcement, tour?? anything.. or do we only have the two sources from CD.com?

("This thread better  go back on track.")

[cyllan]

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Exactly.  I've said multiple times since 06 that I would choose a tour over CD.  The band is fucking amazing live, and it's an extremely unique experience to be at one of their concerts - I've never been able to recreate it. 

and i dont get how someone can claim to be a fan of these guys yet insist that they shouldn't tour unless they have an album.   fuck that!   GnR doesn't have to follow anyone's rules.. they put on a mind-blowing show and its an incredible experience and I wouldn't trade any of the shows I was at for an album.

I couldn't agree more and even though this is just a rumour at present, the mere possibility that they might be touring in 08 is enough to dispel my Monday morning blues.  I didn't get to any of the shows in 07 and, after hearing the reports of those who attended the Japanese shows, I was kicking myself for not making the effort.  With or without an album, there's no way I'm making that mistake again!

[jarmo]

tru, maybe I should use more "insert word here" and icons? You act as if you speak in "eloquent" terms. There are people on here who truly speak in eloquent terms. You and me arent in that category.

Maybe you should think about what you're doing a bit more before throwing around insults?

Last time you didn't think before posting you ended up banned and were begging me to let you back in.

I won't make that mistake again.

it only becomes more of a discussion when you add your 2 cents in it. If you dont agree with something you dont always have to tell us why its not right. Or what is really going on. You know you can take a step back and let others who have a diff opinion than you discuss it.

You'd love that wouldn't you?

To have a discussion about nothing where you can present your "facts".


It's apparent to most here that your idea of a discussion is you repeating the same whiny shit that you've posted for years WITHOUT considering the possible reasons or offering ANY kind of solutions.

I've yet to see you offer any kind of solution to any of the issues in this thread.


I asked you what you were gonna do about the fact that you sound like a broken record and you basically said you were gonna keep doing it.

so why do you take it as an insult when I tell you no1 can argue with you becuase Axl has done no wrong in your eyes?

What? No, I don't care what you think.

You have an answer/excuse for everything this band does.

Should I apologize because I don't get off on dwelling about things I know nothing about and because I know everything is done for a reason?

A mistake is something everybody makes at one point. But most of us don't do them on purpose.

Its funny how you can tell me I act/sound like a child. Yet you are an adult who has a website of a band and declares that Axl ROse has not done one thing wrong over the past decade.

Why is that funny?

It's an "adult" thing to just point out mistakes even when you know why they happened?

I guess to you it is. I mean, you're the one who keeps repeating the same shit WITHOUT taking any kind of possible reasons into account.

I'm sorry that I'm not like you and dwell on mistakes.


It's only impossible for people like you. Because you like to skip that second step in a discussion. Where the other side presents their opinion and answers to your post. You refuse to make any kind of note of that. It's pretty one sided.....

If you did, you wouldn't be here claiming "everything is like before" and stuff like that. And maybe you wouldn't have to turn to insults every time either.



Several others have managed to get thir points across in this thread without insults, but not you. For you it's always personal.

So think a bit about what you're doing, because the only thing this is gonna lead to is that, sooner or later, you'll be begging me to let you back in here and I won't make that mistake again.

Do you think the band can continue to exist in its present form without an album? is the point to tour or to produce albums and tour? The current lineup's very existence depends on the release of Chinese Democracy, not to mention its success or failure. Another tour without an announcement is worrisome, to say the least.

As I said, one doesn't exclude the other.


But maybe you'd rather have them sit at home....





/jarmo

[Crowebar]

Wow...  is all I can think of to say.   

[Tatiana Kudrin]

Why does GnR need to release an album to put on a kickass show for the fans?  I don't see how the two are related.

Exactly.  I've said multiple times since 06 that I would choose a tour over CD.  The band is fucking amazing live, and it's an extremely unique experience to be at one of their concerts - I've never been able to recreate it. 

My thoughts exactly.
CD or not, it's worth to go and see the band whenever it's possible. The best live act I've ever seen. If I could handle it, I'd follow them whenever they're on  tour.   Lord, I wanna either  get a pay rise/be as rich as that Hilton girl/ get a grip on a wealthy man! 
 Seriously, it may seem silly (to some people) to tour without an album, but I don't think I was ripped off when I paid for those tickets. I don't have any regret and I would still pay for tix even if CD is not released in 10 years' time.

[Ulises]

Poland??? Seriously....Poland???

I don't know what's fuckin' going on!!!! They forgot Argentina, Brasil, Chile, They forgot one of the most exciting crowd that ever played in front to...

Is unfair...UNFAIR.

Like a proverb in my country: "God gives food to the toothless"

[DeN]

if they play the new album it will be really great.
if it's just the same playlist, i don't get the point to do a tour now.

[Voodoochild]

Poland??? Seriously....Poland???

I don't know what's fuckin' going on!!!! They forgot Argentina, Brasil, Chile, They forgot one of the most exciting crowd that ever played in front to...

Is unfair...UNFAIR.

Like a proverb in my country: "God gives food to the toothless"

There is a rumor about GNR playing here in Brazil sometime on 2nd half of the this year.

[Bruno Poeys]

Poland??? Seriously....Poland???

I don't know what's fuckin' going on!!!! They forgot Argentina, Brasil, Chile, They forgot one of the most exciting crowd that ever played in front to...

Is unfair...UNFAIR.

Like a proverb in my country: "God gives food to the toothless"

There is a rumor about GNR playing here in Brazil sometime on 2nd half of the this year.

if i'm not wrong, it's gonna happen after chinese democracy's release.

[jarmo]

Hey Younggunner, I'll be nice to you.

I'm offering a simple solution to your problem with me responding to your repeated "discussions".

Take a break.

Just stop posting until things change. Ok?

I think it's a simple yet effective solution. You won't have to read my replies to your "discussions" and you certainly won't have to get yourself banned for insulting me again (because you make everything personal against me).

Since you keep going on and on about the same shit, and you know for a fact that I'll be there replying because I think you're just taking the easy way, take a break until you have something to add. Until things change to the point where you have something new to say.

Ask your friend what happens when you keep pushing the "you think you're in the band, you're not a spokesperson for the band, you're a groupie" thing too far.

Several people in this thread have managed to get their points across disagreeing with me, yet they don't seem to resort to insults like you and your friend. So the whole idea that I ban people who disagree that you two have come up with, is bullshit. Just like the idea that I think I'm a band spokesperson, that you two seem to repeat as well.

So, logout, take a break and we'll see you when you have something new to say. 

if it's just the same playlist, i don't get the point to do a tour now.

For fun? For the fans at the shows?

I'm not saying they will, I'm saying I don't see why it would suck if they did.

I just don't see it.


Think about it.

The album's done, they'd go play in South America (or somewhere else), release the album and play the rest of the planet. Why would that suck? 



/jarmo

[Leddy]

If they did some new Euro shows with the same/similar setlist as last time, then I'd personally still go.  I can understand more casual fans that saw them in 2006/2007 staying away though, there wouldn't be so much incentive for them to attend.  I guess it's the law of diminishing returns from that perspective

That said, if I thought there would be significant differences between shows on the same tour, I'd be more inclined to attend multiple nights instead of just attending once 

[The Prez]

Why the whining?
A tour is always awesome!!

The ony thing I want when going to see them again is that they put at least something 'new' into it, so you don't see the same show like the last time you saw them.
I'm talking about setlist... new songs (or old ones, but not played during another tour >> eg Civil War!) ....new special effects (if applicable).

Why do I want a setlist update: because otherwise it becomes to predictable and for me that's boring.... if you like that fine, I don't! 

[jarmo]

If they did some new Euro shows with the same/similar setlist as last time, then I'd personally still go.  I can understand more casual fans that saw them in 2006/2007 staying away though, there wouldn't be so much incentive for them to attend.  I guess it's the law of diminishing returns from that perspective

I think the band is aware. They didn't play Europe, USA or Canada in 2007.

Why the whining?
A tour is always awesome!!

The ony thing I want when going to see them again is that they put at least something 'new' into it, so you don't see the same show like the last time you saw them.
I'm talking about setlist... new songs (or old ones, but not played during another tour >> eg Civil War!) ....new special effects (if applicable).

Some are already upset/worrying that GN'R might play "the same set list" in a far away country for fans who never saw them.




/jarmo

[Leddy]

To be honest, I'd take "same setlist" tour over "no tour" every day of the week    I'm sure the camp aren't daft though, as you say playing other shores that they haven't visited would be a good call as their international appeal is significant.

I can't get my head around the opinion of those that would prefer nothing at all though