May 31st, 2006 Budapest, Hungary (including pictures)

[Neemo]

has anyone heard anything more about what Robins "issue" was?  Has anyone confirmed it was definitely a sound issue? I also want to know about this...anyone?

We have 2 fan accounts of receiving emails from bumble saying it was nothing...and Robin needed to change guitars...personally I'm not gonna read too much into it

[Mikkamakka]

Yes, yes, yes, something happened when they crushed. But Robin was pissed off from the first minute and during Brownstone he didn't even play his guitar, just took one mic stand and sang, and acted like he'd be a singer. I guess the band and mostly Robin was mad at Axl cause he didn't take his precious time to come to the concert. As far as I know he arrived to Hungary an hour before they started to play (11:45).

I don't know more about it.

BTW I can confirm what alexrose wrote that Axl had said 'It's a rock show... a rock show' when he had felt that Finck had gone crazy.

[pilferk]

hey, may i ask what happened between you and robin at the Budapest show?
What do ya mean?? ?
bbf

rumor denied

Not really. I was there and a rift happened between the two. Robin was in a bad mood during the first songs. He crushed 4 different guitars during the first 4 songs, once (during Easy or Brownstone) almost killed a mic with its stand, and when they played Better he simply left the stage in the middle of the song. Axl was looking for him and when the song was over, Bumble started to play something horrible and Axl went after Finck with his face saying' I will kill the fucker'.

Guys, fucking discuss this now! This is disturbing stuff.

Who cares about this thread going off topic and shit, lets get it back on.

I'm not sure it was a bumblefoot/Robin blow up thing as it was a "Robin is pissed because the sound is fucked up and Ron tried to console him at the wrong moment" thing. ?But I'm looking for confirmation from anyone that might actually know one way or the other.

[pilferk]

Is it just me, or does it seem like the glasses he wore last night (not the aviators), look like swimming goggles? ?I can't help but think he's about to go do some laps w/those things on. ?Stick with the aviators Axl! ?

I've noticed that too...sorta make him look a big "bug eyed", if you know what I mean.

[Death Cube K]

I'm not sure it was a bumblefoot/Robin blow up thing as it was a "Robin is pissed because the sound is fucked up and Ron tried to console him at the wrong moment" thing. ?But I'm looking for confirmation from anyone that might actually know one way or the other.

Bumblefoot got nothing to do with Robin's sound, so yeah...

Robin leaving the stage like Axl did back in the old days? Haha!! It's sooo predictable!! ?

[Steel_Angel]

hey, may i ask what happened between you and robin at the Budapest show?
What do ya mean?? ?
bbf

rumor denied

Not really. I was there and a rift happened between the two. Robin was in a bad mood during the first songs. He crushed 4 different guitars during the first 4 songs, once (during Easy or Brownstone) almost killed a mic with its stand, and when they played Better he simply left the stage in the middle of the song. Axl was looking for him and when the song was over, Bumble started to play something horrible and Axl went after Finck with his face saying' I will kill the fucker'.

I LOVE THIS BAND!!   

[Gaymo, the Hobbit]

just took one mic stand and sang, and acted like he'd be a singer.

lol.. that's classic

[nesquick]

Axl MUST show up a little bit earlier now... If he arrives on stage at midnight in Paris he will receive tomatoes and potatoes.

[pilferk]

Axl MUST show up a little bit earlier now... If he arrives on stage at midnight in Paris he will receive tomatoes and potatoes.

Maybe they'll play Chinese Democracy and make that stew they sing about.

[Steel_Angel]

i think we need a few more details on this "robin"/bumble issue.... so robin was pissed for some reason.....
and did axl kick his ass after he left during "Better"? 

[Mikkamakka]

There is a rumour that Axl had problems with his back and his knee, that's why he flew to Milano on the day of the show(!) and when they finished in Hungary, he flew back again to a specialist. I don't know too much about his back and knee, but I missed his heart during the concert.

[pilferk]

There is a rumour that Axl had problems with his back and his knee, that's why he flew to Milano on the day of the show(!) and when they finished in Hungary, he flew back again to a specialist. I don't know too much about his back and knee, but I missed his heart during the concert.

Merck mentioned muscle spasms during the Rio concert.  It wouldn't surprise me if that's what was bothering him...

I've had wicked bask spasms before.  They can, literally, bring you to your knees...so it wouldn't surprise me if he was battling those through treatment (chiropractic, massage therapy, all that sort of stuff) to get him up on stage every night.

[Minneapolisnewsman]

With the way Robin was acting, and Axl's supposed back issues, it seems that something bad maybe brewing behind the scenes.  I don't know what, but my how things can change so quickly.  GNR seemed poised to conquer the world coming out of NY, and now look to be on the verge of utter collapse at the 2nd most important show, Rock Am Ring, of the tour.  I know things can be worked out, but if the band is growing weary of Axl's tardiness and bs, then this is a train wreck waiting to happen.   They also, at Rock Am Ring, and Download, need to cut out the long delay's in between songs, and the other non-sense.  I I was them, I would play 10 songs straight, with little break in between.  I would not play Madagascar, TWAT, or Better either.  I would play IRS, Chinese Democracy and The Blues.

[pilferk]

With the way Robin was acting, and Axl's supposed back issues, it seems that something bad maybe brewing behind the scenes.? I don't know what, but my how things can change so quickly.? GNR seemed poised to conquer the world coming out of NY, and now look to be on the verge of utter collapse at the 2nd most important show, Rock Am Ring, of the tour.? I know things can be worked out, but if the band is growing weary of Axl's tardiness and bs, then this is a train wreck waiting to happen.? ?They also, at Rock Am Ring, and Download, need to cut out the long delay's in between songs, and the other non-sense.? I I was them, I would play 10 songs straight, with little break in between.? I would not play Madagascar, TWAT, or Better either.? I would play IRS, Chinese Democracy and The Blues.

Again, I'm not sure it was Robin being ticked at Axl for being late.

I'm hearing (well, reading), in more and more places/forums, it was a sound issue, or some issue with Robin's guitars, that caused him to get pissed off.

Back spasm are very treatable (hell, ibuprofen works wonders) and usually are one of those things that can be easily controlled by good providers.  And they tend to go away as quickly as they show up....

I wouldn't worry too much, yet.  We'll see how the weekend, and next week, goes.

[Slipdisc]

On the verge of utter collapse? How about putting things a little more in perspective? I really don't see a reason to jump to such conclusions....

-PEACE-

[axlroses]

I remember at the December 29th show in Vegas there were a lot of sound issues and Robin blew up and smashed his guitar and walked off stage.  That could be all this was.

[daveyjc]

im sick of hearing that axl is late

the ither members must hate that

[AxlFink]

it's kinda cool that all this is happening.  it sounds like old gnr.  never know whats gonna happen.  the funny thing is....axl seems to be in control.  It's also cool that Robin can walk off the stage without being fired...a hired gun would be gone.  it's looking like a real band more and more.  I hate when people smash guitars but fuck it.... for gnr... smash everything up!!!!!!

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

Axl MUST show up a little bit earlier now... If he arrives on stage at midnight in Paris he will receive tomatoes and potatoes.

i like tomatoes !
and you know what  i like potatoes too ! they're yummy !

[Meanmachine22]

Axl MUST show up a little bit earlier now... If he arrives on stage at midnight in Paris he will receive tomatoes and potatoes.

Nesquick, how come that i knew you would say that......