Why Piss On Weiland??

[mike_giuliana]

i said you are chinese reds moron.. Did I have to spell out you are the same as CR at the other board for you to understand that.. Did I just guess you would kno who he was.. Damn you are dumb? You said the band has potential you said they have more talent then what they put out so by saying that would show you migh think thier sophmore effort would be better.. I know you never even bothered anyways, you're that type of guy..

Only babies block words ,they want a board that is their own fantasy land yet they come over to the vr sections on other's boards and disresept the section They want resepctr for their boards yet the talk shit on other boards..? You want positive talk about new gnr on your board but you don't mind shitting on others in their vr section,.. Such a hypocrit...

why dont you just go back to your little board called the vr strip. Maybe if you beg a little more spike will let you be a mod?

go back to fantasy land, oh I mean the thenewguns

mike let me ask you a question now. why do you even read the board if you hate it so much? (now i know your going to say why do you read the vrsection then blah blah blah. so ill say that now. Someone asked why people dont like scott so i answered. you on the other had will read an entire board dedicated to something you hate. and yes you do hate the new abnd. why is that?)

Honestly I read a lot of boards.. I do it because I am shocked to see people that call themselves gnr fans so anti gnr.. I am not able to understand how one could like the hired guys better then the actual band gnr that gave all those amazing songs to us.. You hate vr, I don't hate new gnr, I hate the idea the name is used when only one original member is from gnr.. I don't like the idea of a band being called gnr when it's not..   I know you are younger then me and didn't ge to see gnr in their hey day, but most people that have would never just call this gnr when it has not one member but axl.. If I didn't care I wouldn't have seen them live at msg andf spent good money for a close floor seat.. I tell you I am not crazy abouthe boots but look forward to hearing what else they have as in the album, but you clearly just hate vr and the members that are not in gnr anymore.. If you weren;'t you would be open minded for the second album... I also can not get myself in a tizzy over a three week tour that happened two+ years ago.. Tommy has been with axl since 1998 and there's still no album, so there is no material to enjoy..

I also see the double standard how you'll say great for richard for playing with nena, or hookers n blow and tommy doing his second solo album.. Well I want to hear axl sing, I don't care about projects from guys I don't know.. Then if anyone from the old band does something with others it's garbage or selling out, but when your guys do it, it's wonderful...

[chineseblues]

i said you are chinese reds moron.. Did I have to spell out you are the same as CR at the other board for you to understand that.. Did I just guess you would kno who he was.. Damn you are dumb  You said the band has potential you said they have more talent then what they put out so by saying that would show you migh think thier sophmore effort would be better.. I know you never even bothered anyways, you're that type of guy..

Only babies block words ,they want a board that is their own fantasy land yet they come over to the vr sections on other's boards and disresept the section They want resepctr for their boards yet the talk shit on other boards..  You want positive talk about new gnr on your board but you don't mind shitting on others in their vr section,.. Such a hypocrit...

why dont you just go back to your little board called the vr strip. Maybe if you beg a little more spike will let you be a mod 

go back to fantasy land, oh I mean the thenewguns

mike let me ask you a question now. why do you even read the board if you hate it so much? (now i know your going to say why do you read the vrsection then blah blah blah. so ill say that now. Someone asked why people dont like scott so i answered. you on the other had will read an entire board dedicated to something you hate. and yes you do hate the new abnd. why is that?)

Honestly I read a lot of boards.. I do it because I am shocked to see people that call themselves gnr fans so anti gnr.. I am not able to understand how one could like the hired guys better then the actual band gnr that gave all those amazing songs to us.. You hate vr, I don't hate new gnr, I hate the idea the name is used when only one original member is from gnr.. I don't like the idea of a band being called gnr when it's not..   I know you are younger then me and didn't ge to see gnr in their hey day, but most people that have would never just call this gnr when it has not one member but axl.. If I didn't care I wouldn't have seen them live at msg andf spent good money for a close floor seat.. I tell you I am not crazy abouthe boots but look forward to hearing what else they have as in the album, but you clearly just hate vr and the members that are not in gnr anymore.. If you weren;'t you would be open minded for the second album... I also can not get myself in a tizzy over a three week tour that happened two+ years ago.. Tommy has been with axl since 1998 and there's still no album, so there is no material to enjoy..

I also see the double standard how you'll say great for richard for playing with nena, or hookers n blow and tommy doing his second solo album.. Well I want to hear axl sing, I don't care about projects from guys I don't know.. Then if anyone from the old band does something with others it's garbage or selling out, but when your guys do it, it's wonderful...

Find me an example of where i said it was selling out? i "might" have said it in a thread where someone else said richard sold out for playing with nena, but only to show some peoples double standard towards the new guys.

I honestly don't know how some people can be loyal to people who walked out on what they claim to eb their favorite band. Its realy weird. Slash and co quit the band and they are gods. Axl keeps the gnr name alive and hes anasshole for it.

[mike_giuliana]

bands break up, it's a realistic thing.. Gnr was always a band fuled on drugs and egos.. I always felt it would happen, it got to big. I have never worked with axl, but they didn't get along, everyone left axl so there had to be a reason.. Even izzy who started with axl, his childhood friend.. As for axl keeping the name alive I would have rather he didn't and started a new group until one day the band reformed.. A band isn't a constant revolving lineup, that's more like a team.

No one knows for sure what happened but I don't hate anyone.. If it was creative differences then what can you do..

Not for nothing just because axl didn't walk out doesn't mean they left him behind.. You can believe whatever you want but the guys didn't just sign the name over for the hell of it.. Axl can't get one album out, he has been through 4-5 producers tons of sessions players and 13 million plus this thing started in 97 when moby came in so maybe it's a little more axl, everyone else has moved on and played.. Even as we speak all of new gnr need solo careers because axl can't get it going..

[electricmage]

Hate scott all you want to.

Learn to read. I'm bashing Slash, not scott.

Insult me all you want, It won't make contraband sound good.?

While I agree Contraband has it low points, it also has its highs. But as I said before, you pro Axl losers can go cry me a river. Boo hoo, Chinese Democracy is never comming out. And Axl lost his voice...He can blame a hearing device problem all he wants to.

[electricmage]

i said you are chinese reds moron.. Did I have to spell out you are the same as CR at the other board for you to understand that.. Did I just guess you would kno who he was.. Damn you are dumb? You said the band has potential you said they have more talent then what they put out so by saying that would show you migh think thier sophmore effort would be better.. I know you never even bothered anyways, you're that type of guy..

Only babies block words ,they want a board that is their own fantasy land yet they come over to the vr sections on other's boards and disresept the section They want resepctr for their boards yet the talk shit on other boards..? You want positive talk about new gnr on your board but you don't mind shitting on others in their vr section,.. Such a hypocrit...

why dont you just go back to your little board called the vr strip. Maybe if you beg a little more spike will let you be a mod?

go back to fantasy land, oh I mean the thenewguns

mike let me ask you a question now. why do you even read the board if you hate it so much? (now i know your going to say why do you read the vrsection then blah blah blah. so ill say that now. Someone asked why people dont like scott so i answered. you on the other had will read an entire board dedicated to something you hate. and yes you do hate the new abnd. why is that?)

You rejects don't like Scott because you all are to scared to admit Axl sucks. And you want to blame someone else.  Axl Rose is a fool, but you Axl lovers are the bigger fools, and you and every diehard Axl fans are a bunch of pussies. Let him walk all over you. I have never seen anyone waste so much time on a message board, due to some prankster telling you there was a single that was to be released. You people obviously know nothing about the record industry, and you obviously know nothing about reality...You guys are almost as bad, no wait, you are worse then those star wars pricks who wait days in line to see a piece of film.

[electricmage]

bands break up, it's a realistic thing.. Gnr was always a band fuled on drugs and egos.. I always felt it would happen, it got to big. I have never worked with axl, but they didn't get along, everyone left axl so there had to be a reason.. Even izzy who started with axl, his childhood friend.. As for axl keeping the name alive I would have rather he didn't and started a new group until one day the band reformed.. A band isn't a constant revolving lineup, that's more like a team.

No one knows for sure what happened but I don't hate anyone.. If it was creative differences then what can you do..

Not for nothing just because axl didn't walk out doesn't mean they left him behind.. You can believe whatever you want but the guys didn't just sign the name over for the hell of it.. Axl can't get one album out, he has been through 4-5 producers tons of sessions players and 13 million plus this thing started in 97 when moby came in so maybe it's a little more axl, everyone else has moved on and played.. Even as we speak all of new gnr need solo careers because axl can't get it going..

You know what the funny thing is? Over at the Zeppelin.com message board, people hte the idea of a Zeppelin reunion b/c Bonzo is gone. It isn't Zeppelin w/o him. And there is no Gn'R w/o Duff, Slash, Izzy and Steven or Matt. And Axl is fucking razy to see otherwise.

[jarmo]

You rejects don't like Scott because you all are to scared to admit Axl sucks.

No, it's because I think Chris Cornell is a way better front man than Scott Weiland.

It's called personal opinion. Look it up when you're not busy posting crap like below on this board.

And you want to blame someone else.? Axl Rose is a fool, but you Axl lovers are the bigger fools, and you and every diehard Axl fans are a bunch of pussies.

Do you know what posts like that makes you? I mean, other than "banned".....



/jarmo

[D]

anyone who says Axl has lost his voice obviously have no clue as to what they are saying.

U are referring to the VMAs so obviously u heard the opening scream etc?

before he sprinted too much and got winded he was kickin ass and even after that Madagascar was great, so he hasnt lost his voice.


I do love Scott Weiland though, I like him way more than Chris Cornell,Eddie Vedder and? a lot of those other guys but I respect Cornell and Vedder's talents.

I just like Scott's stage charisma and energy, he is truly a madman on stage, the closest to Axl we will ever get as far as stage presence is concerned.

is Electricmage really banned?

that guy Goneeeeeeeeeeee, did u hear me mr security man? electricmage gone!!! yeah.....give me that shirt, give me that shirt.......... thank you!

[electricmage]

anyone who says Axl has lost his voice obviously have no clue as to what they are saying.

U are referring to the VMAs so obviously u heard the opening scream etc?

before he sprinted too much and got winded he was kickin ass and even after that Madagascar was great, so he hasnt lost his voice.


I do love Scott Weiland though, I like him way more than Chris Cornell,Eddie Vedder and? a lot of those other guys but I respect Cornell and Vedder's talents.

I just like Scott's stage charisma and energy, he is truly a madman on stage, the closest to Axl we will ever get as far as stage presence is concerned.

is Electricmage really banned?

that guy Goneeeeeeeeeeee, did u hear me mr security man? electricmage gone!!! yeah.....give me that shirt, give me that shirt.......... thank you!

Na i'm still here. Like a bad zit.

[electricmage]

You rejects don't like Scott because you all are to scared to admit Axl sucks.

No, it's because I think Chris Cornell is a way better front man than Scott Weiland.

It's called personal opinion. Look it up when you're not busy posting crap like below on this board.

And you want to blame someone else.? Axl Rose is a fool, but you Axl lovers are the bigger fools, and you and every diehard Axl fans are a bunch of pussies.

Do you know what posts like that makes you? I mean, other than "banned".....



/jarmo

Ok Jarmo, ban me. I really don't care. All of you new Gn'R fanatics have a deranged sense of reality anyways. This is a Gn'R forum. Do you know what that band was about? I'd Figure not be able to call anyone a pussy over at the Britney Spears forum. But not a Gn'R messge board. You want to post on "the most dangerous band" fan website, be my guest. But it's ok for Axl to say what he wants, you guys lick his sweaty balls, but me... I'm not that stupid. Have fun waiting for that album that is never comming out. I wont be spending my money on that fuckwad. I'll be sending my money to Slash and company. At least they have respect for their fans.

By the way Jarmo, you are a nazi. and if Axl ever came here and called you morons douche bags. You would still be eating out of his hand like a bunch of dogs.

Peace, bitches.

[jarmo]

I'll be sending my money to Slash and company. At least they have respect for their fans.

Respect? Now that's a big word for a guy who has no idea what it means.

I can't believe the stupidity of some people. "Boohoo, it's a GN'R board I should be able to call other board members what I want. Boohoo. It's not rock n' roll if I can't. Boohoo".

By the way Jarmo, you are a nazi.

Thanks for taking interested in my political beliefs, but I never was a national socialist.




/jarmo

[deliverthecow]

Jarmo,

One question, IF you dislike VR as much as some of your posts indirectly state. I have one question ? Why in the hell are you a moderator on a VR board. Kinda find that alittle bit of a conflict of interest for someone who is so against Scott Weiland. 

[Smoking Guns]

Jarmo, we get your point (that you deliver daily), YOU DON'T LIKE SCOTT WEILAND.  The reason Jarmo is a moderator on the VR board is because is runs the best GNR forum on the net.  His experience makes him a good choice to be a moderator, plus he is knowledgable about the band.  He just doesn't like them because he feels that us VR fans (who are also GNR fans) think that VR can do no wrong and we are too tough on Uncle Axl.  VR fans feel that Jarmo is too tough on VR and never says anything bad about Axl.  Jarmo is also bitter towards Slash because he feels that Slash puts too much blame on Axl and that Slash is the one that left.  Slash's comments piss off Jarmo.  As far as Jarmo's opinion on signers, Chris Cornell has one of the greatest voices in rock, better then Scotts, but Scott is a MUCH better front man.  Period.  I don't know how many times Jarmo has had to justify his in direct bashing of VR by saying, "If this were Axl, you guys would have been killing him."  Anyway, since Jarmo always has the same angle, I figured I would break it down a little bit more as to why he has this angle.  I hope it helps. 

[deliverthecow]

I dont buy into it, to me it is just being a hypocrite.?  

[D]

I understand where Jarmo comes from, If Axl does something he gets bashed,criticized and hung out to dry, but if Scott or VR do something similiar its no big deal and they dont get criticized.

Im a huge VR fan and  a huge Duff and Slash fan but they get all the sympathy and Axl is looked at as this huge asshole tyrant dictator when in fact, he just wanted to keep movin GNR forward and not rehash the same ole same ole.

I think what Axl did was the right thing, I think Slash was lazy and didnt wanna make a great GNR album, he wanted to do what was easy and if Axl hadnt took charge, GNR wouldve made a couple more albums, faded out and we wouldnt be on this board with so much hope and anticipation of a great album in Chinese Democracy.

Axl has his faults and has made his share of mistakes but Slash and the rest of the band are just as guilty.

When you dont have guts or the balls to stand up to someone, shit happens, Axl didnt make them sign their band name rights away, they couldve called Axl's bluff, they couldve tried to compromise somehow, but they left.

Slash thought he was this uber superstar and he left and realized that he wasnt without GNR.

I get tired of it always being all axl's fault thought.

[jarmo]

Jarmo,

One question, IF you dislike VR as much as some of your posts indirectly state. I have one question ? Why in the hell are you a moderator on a VR board. Kinda find that alittle bit of a conflict of interest for someone who is so against Scott Weiland.?

Yeah, I really dislike them don't I? Seen them live five times by now. I really must hate them.....

I'm not a moderator on a VR board, I'm an administrator on a GN'R board where we happen to have a VR section.

Jarmo, we get your point (that you deliver daily), YOU DON'T LIKE SCOTT WEILAND.

I don't have anything against him. He's not in my top 10 frontmen list. That's all.

Jarmo is also bitter towards Slash because he feels that Slash puts too much blame on Axl and that Slash is the one that left. Slash's comments piss off Jarmo.

Bitter? No. He left GN'R, that was his decision. It's in the past.

Slash can say whatever he wants. His comments doesn't piss me off. I don't take them that seriously.




/jarmo

[deliverthecow]

Yes i know you are the administrator on this board. I was just stating that you are a mod on the VR forum, not this one.

I guess i have taken some of your comments "the wrong way" my bad.

[jarmo]

I was just stating that you are a mod on the VR forum, not this one.

No I'm not. I used to be an administrator at a VR forum that I helped create.




/jarmo

[Smoking Guns]

Jarmo, was I right about anything I said over here?  I do remeber you being a global moderator on the VR boards.  I guess you are not anymore.

[jameslofton29]

Anyone think there'll be an STP reunion before a CD release?