DISCUSSIONS about the Best 80's Frontman Survivor!

[Mikkamakka]

D, Skid Row released only ONE album in the 80s, so 3 hit singles in that decade isn't bad.

[Tied-Up]

D - it was Bon Jovi obsession with her - I just came from a different sort of musical vision - it's all good

speaking of a bon jovi obsession...    OMG!  D is so funny, I'm cracking up here.  He probably has a poster of bon jovi tacked to his ceiling above his bed. 

[D]

thats my point Bach is a 90's survivor, fuck Anthony Kiedis didnt make the 90's cause he was in the 21st century survivor and he was THE frontman of the 90's


but fuck it im through arguing its pointless, so next round everyone have a great laugh and vote Jon off before people like dave mustaine.

i am bias i guess wanting Jon to stay around but you guys are even more fuckin biased voting him off this early

whether u hate him,despise him or whatever

fuck this game


while all of you are voting him off in front of people who cant hold his mic stand, he will still be one of the only 80's frontmen kicking ass and still relevant and around today

so u all can have your bullshit FANTASY LIST

cause the reality list remains Jon is the best 80's frontman still around today!

[Captain Obvious]

I don't care who;s going before or after Jon. All I know, Halford and Bach better be the last two.

[D]

what did bach do so special?

wow he can scream


Jon vs Sebastian

vocal range sebastian
musicianship Jon
songwriting Jon
stage presence Jon
stage energy   draw
attitude sebastian
most famous Jon
more copied Jon


but it doesnt matter anymore

while u all vote off Jon i can take comfort in knowing that he will put out records for the next 15 years and i can still see him tour in an "arena" whereas most of these other guys are irrelevant and buried.

[Tied-Up]

More to add to the above list:

Didn't serve cheese with his whine - Bach
didn't sing "livin' on a prayer" - Bach
Who, if I were a groupie, would I rather drop to my knees for - Bach

And of course, the all important...

Best Looking Bulge - gotta go with Bach on this one too... If you don't believe me, just check out http://www.metal-sludge.com/main/index.php?module=subjects&func=viewpage&pageid=381&POSTNUKESID=b5158a4a27827ef34ecedbc725176be0?

Sebastian Bach ... He does have an above average cock

Jon Bon Jovi ... Jon has an average size cock?

Bach wins.? ?

Edited to repair typo.

[BP]

more copied Jon

 

[Captain Obvious]

what did bach do so special?

wow he can scream


Jon vs Sebastian

vocal range sebastian
musicianship Jon
songwriting Jon
stage presence Jon
stage energy   draw
attitude sebastian
most famous Jon
more copied Jon


but it doesnt matter anymore

while u all vote off Jon i can take comfort in knowing that he will put out records for the next 15 years and i can still see him tour in an "arena" whereas most of these other guys are irrelevant and buried.

Yes, the man can scream. But, the man can also sing. And by sing, I mean he can sing circles around Jon.

 Musicianship goes to Jon? I don't know, Jon can play piano, banjo, millions of instruments, etc, but I'm rating him mainly as a singer.  He might be pretty good at many things, just like many people who can play many instruments. Bach is outstanding, even if it is at one thing. That one thing is what sets him apart from practically everyone. Unlike Jon and many others, Bach is an actual singer. Not a guy with a microphone who can hold a note.

Stage presence goes to Jon? I don't see that but ok...

How about Live performances? Bach can nail live performances.

More famous...yeah I'll give you that. DOn't rally see how that's relevant.

Most copied. Yeah, because people can actually copy him. Same argument was mentioned fro Vedder. Its a lot easier to immitate these guys that Halford or Bach.

Well, I know that Jon might put out records, and people will buy them. He might be more relevant than some of these guys, you're right. But he will never be as relevant as Halford or Dickinson.

[BP]

what did bach do so special?

wow he can scream


Jon vs Sebastian

vocal range sebastian
musicianship Jon
songwriting Jon
stage presence Jon
stage energy draw
attitude sebastian
most famous Jon
more copied Jon


but it doesnt matter anymore

while u all vote off Jon i can take comfort in knowing that he will put out records for the next 15 years and i can still see him tour in an "arena" whereas most of these other guys are irrelevant and buried.

Most copied. Yeah, because people can actually copy him. Same argument was mentioned fro Vedder. Its a lot easier to immitate these guys that Halford or Bach.

Well, I know that Jon might put out records, and people will buy them. He might be more relevant than some of these guys, you're right. But he will never be as relevant as Halford or Dickinson.

I really want to know who you guys think copied jovi ::? If anything, it's the other way around.....? In there prime, he was just another "Pour some sugar on me" & even know that I don't care for Def Leppard, They did it first along with other bands. Jovi is such a poster boy of a late 80's commercial hack.?

I'll say the words "Real" Rock/Metal fans in NJ would beat up dudes who would have worn a jovi shirt back in the day IF that happened haha  believe me, but the older dudes would do it out of lessen. All I know is the Metal/Rock diehards (the older brothers all over that I seen) were outraged by bands like jovi & these diehards were listening to most of those guys in the list. So I'm not going to deny those Jovi band haters there history. I love how part of the promo was that there was support for him out of new jersey.

Early 80's has such a deep history cuzz it wasn't commericalized as much. then again I grew up in a tuff part of Jersey when jovi first hit the scene. but then even in the late 80's, the diehards werent wearing his t shirts, back patches etc....? ? maybe a few girls. my only point is that I think D thinks they were so loved & influenced by a mass of people who actually knew something about MUSIC

I just don't get how he is relevant. He sure don't give a falk about his home state unless he is paid. Can't say the same thing about Bruce

whatever... like I'm even scratching the surface - I aint going to write a term paper.? ?so I guess just tell me who copies his act?? who cares Im going to bed. & if any comeback is going to be said about what was "cool",? zipp it cuzz you missed the point then. cuzz the major point is that the diehards seen right through the swiss. & many of us are products of early mass music production shit.
-bp

[D]

Jon isnt popular in his home state which is why he can sell out Giants stadium in New jersey 2 nights in a row

maybe u and your circle didnt get into Bon Jovi but im sure the rest of the state loves him and is very proud of Jon.

Bon Jovi are an unbelievable live band, the live versions are better than the studio versions.

I know Jon can come as close to singing with Bach than Bach could tryin to match Jon instrumentally.

Livin on a prayer is a great anthem that means a lot to so many people, why would u diss that song anyway?
Jon has stage presence where no matter where he plays he is known and can hold crowds regardless of size in the palm of his hand.

u think if the members of bon jovi grabbed another singer they could still open up for other bands?

Skid Row's new singer does a great job of imitating Bach, sounds just fuckin like him.

but im through arguing with people who cant see the difference in Jon Bon Jovi and these other people on here.

[Tied-Up]

but im through arguing with people who cant see the difference in Jon Bon Jovi and these other people on here.

I can see the difference in Jon vs. the other guys (most of them) on the list... Jon SUCKS and the other guys don't suck (at least, not nearly as bad.)

My above post ^ was a joke, btw... for those of you who didn't get it.  I find so much humor in D's Bon Jovi worshipping posts that I felt that  Bach needed a bit of the worship too.

All joking aside, Bach doesn't just scream when he's on stage.  He's fucking amazing.  He has amazing range.  As far as singing talent goes... there is just no comparison... Bach is a thousand times better than Bon Jovi could ever hope to be.

Musicianship, as Captian Obvious pointed out, isn't just about being able to play instruments... its about being able to play your instruments well.  You might be able to play a dozen different instruments, but if you don't play them well, it doesn't make you a fine musician.  I'd rather have someone who knew his/her one instrument well enough to be considered a virtuoso than to have someone who knew how to play six different instruments but played them all with mediocre ability. 

In other words, Bach's instrument is is voice.  His vocal ability is far superior to Bon Jovi's.  So even if Jon can play several instruments, he plays them average at best, and his vocal ability is average at best as well. 
 
Also... being more famous and selling more albums DOES NOT make you an excellent artist or the best "frontman"... it just means that you're mainstream, commercially acceptable.  Britney Spears sells a lot of albums, it doesn't make her a great musician. 

Jon Bon Jovi is to the 80s music scene what Britney Spears is to today's music scene.  I see little difference in the two, except that one is a male and one is a female.  Other than that, not much difference. 

[BP]

being more famous and selling more albums DOES NOT make you an excellent artist or the best "frontman"... it just means that you're mainstream, commercially acceptable.  Britney Spears sells a lot of albums, it doesn't make her a great musician

Ping!!! Britney did pretty well herself in East Rutherford 


I got the foking flu bad - somebody made a voodoo doll of me, wrapped me up in a jovi magazine & flushed me down the toilet. curses



yea I'm weird & sick.....      Did you know they actually sell this thing ----- $55

[Captain Obvious]

For anyone who cannot see a world of difference between Sebastian's voice and most other frontment, I don't know what Skid Row songs you are listening to. If you can, please listen to Wasted Time.

[BP]

Captain..? I like Bach !? I didn't care for skid row without him. I was a fan & owned CD's from when they first came out..... my first impression was that he had a beautiful voice. The "I remember you" song he nailed with awesome vocal range that made me shimmer when I was younger. 18 n life brought me in too.

I still have a respect for him as he is still the same ol' well grown of course.? & for a singer with recognition to be currently excited & rejoicing how he jams out in a little room with 'no name people' gives him big points. He still lives on the whole band grinding process thing. His band lives at his house & his wife does the books & manages. He lives for the shit everyday. When I seen that little special on him recently...? I was surprised.

b;p

[D]

i told u fuckers i bought voodoo dolls of all u bon jovi haters.

Jon and Britney?

hmmmmm

lets see she doesnt write

Jon has wrote some of the biggest rock songs ever so that was a totally crazy untrue point.


let me ask  u this

if Bach had to write his own songs where would he be?

answer: on broadway   holy shit he was!


Jon is a more complete performer than Bach. he doesnt play mediocre, he may not be a virtuoso but he plays everything proficiently.

6 instruments proficiently is better than 1 instrument virtuoso.

plus add in Jon's songwriting ability and i think its a pretty clear cut victory.

[Tied-Up]

All jon can write is recipes for cheese.  Sappy, soggy cheese.  Moldy cheese.  Cheese that stinks.  Cheese that gives yeast infections.  Cheese.

[Gunner80]

Just remember, it's only Rock N' Roll. 

[Walk]

Bach is a better singer by FAR and Skid Row's music is much more aggressive and socially relevent than BJ's. Broadway singers are some of the most talented in the world. They don't have production to hide their bad voices. They either fail or excel. Bach excels.

[Mikkamakka]

I just don't understand this whole Sebastian vs. Jon argument. Both are among the biggest frontmen of all time, JBJ is more of a songwriter, while Baz is an awesome singer and showman. The only thing I can't understand is why Mustaine is still on the list? That man can not sing at all. 

[Doc Emmett Brown]

I just don't understand this whole Sebastian vs. Jon argument. Both are among the biggest frontmen of all time, JBJ is more of a songwriter, while Baz is an awesome singer and showman. The only thing I can't understand is why Mustaine is still on the list? That man can not sing at all. 

I like more Cure songs than Megadeth songs, so I voted Mustaine out over Robert Smith.  I see people voting off Vince Neil, and I dont know why - he was huge in the 80's and the Crue put on great shows.

I think we all prefer different aspects of a "frontman".  Which is the most important: vocal range, showmanship, songwriting ability, their off-stage antics  , or something else?