VR setlist evolution

[jarmo]

So Booker, you don't think my original "complaint" about them playing the same set night after night is a big deal?

No.? A fair complaint, yes.? My main complaint is that its too similar to the promo tour setlist...aside from that, unless youre following the band around the country and watching every show, it shouldnt be a big deal.

As a fan, which would you prefer? The current type of set lists or the kind where they mixed them up more?


They're gonna play five shows in London. Five shows! That's quite many and considering many of the fans in the crowd will see more than one show, I reallu hope they do something special there.

I mean more than adding Spectacle and replacing one cover each night.


The "worst" case scenario is that they'll do this:


Sucker Train Blues
Do It For The Kids
Headspace
Superhuman/Spectacle/Mr. Brownstone
Crackerman
Illegal i Song
Fall To Pieces
Big Machine
It's So Easy
Sex Type Thing
Set Me Free
Used To Love Her
No More No More/Tie Your Mother Down (it's London after all!)/Bodies/Negative Creep
Slither


/jarmo

[Falcon]

So Booker, you don't think my original "complaint" about them playing the same set night after night is a big deal?

No.? A fair complaint, yes.? My main complaint is that its too similar to the promo tour setlist...aside from that, unless youre following the band around the country and watching every show, it shouldnt be a big deal.

As a fan, which would you prefer? The current type of set lists or the kind where they mixed them up more?


They're gonna play five shows in London. Five shows! That's quite many and considering many of the fans in the crowd will see more than one show, I reallu hope they do something special there.

I mean more than adding Spectacle and replacing one cover each night.


The "worst" case scenario is that they'll do this:


Sucker Train Blues
Do It For The Kids
Headspace
Superhuman/Spectacle/Mr. Brownstone
Crackerman
Illegal i Song
Fall To Pieces
Big Machine
It's So Easy
Sex Type Thing
Set Me Free
Used To Love Her
No More No More/Tie Your Mother Down (it's London after all!)/Bodies/Negative Creep
Slither


/jarmo

What else (specific songs) would you like to see added? 

[jarmo]

Considering Loving The Alien and You Got No Right were really popular on the "Contraband Survivor" on this board, one of those would be nice.

Regarding covers, they can pretty much do anything if they want. Matt's in Camp Freddy....




/jarmo

[mikegiuliana]

no, its common sense. Do you really thing that GNR will be playing the same set when the album is out? Do you honestly think Tommy, Robin, Brain and the band would rather play the old material rathe rthan the new material they they have been working on all these years?
So they are going to release CD and instea dof touring on that they will be playing 2002 all over again.SUrrree.
Just listne to what Axl said at the VMsa regarding the how th eplayers are intense about playing th enew material...

You keep saying do we think the new guys will want to playt eh old stuff?? NEWS FLASH, they JOINED GUNS n ROSES, new and old come with the job.
I hope they play more old material, the classics we love, I hate when groups pawn their new shittier music( not saying it will be bad) on the fans who want to hear the classics.. Maybe they give you a medley crumb like the vmas which sucks..

Give me 4-6 new songs and the rest from the old gnr.. There's to many fixtures in the gnr sert list to just drop them more for new songs.. The only way I could see them doing a few more new songs is because everyone has heard the same old songs for a million years now and is dying for something new..

I saw you mentioned before the pyros and shit.. You know something they didn't need that stuff, it would have been just cool enough playing the music.. The best touch is during PC when the shit droped from the ceiling.. I filled my pockets

Either way though for me, the tickets of 75 bucks was cheap//

[jarmo]

Stop talking about GN'R, this thread is about VR. 



/jarmo

[Falcon]

Considering Loving The Alien and You Got No Right were really popular on the "Contraband Survivor" on this board, one of those would be nice.

Regarding covers, they can pretty much do anything if they want. Matt's in Camp Freddy....




/jarmo

I understand some people do enjoy those two songs but it seems the VR guys are trying to keep the show moving fast while building momentum as the set goes on, I'm not sure if adding 2 slower tempo tunes might be defeating their purpose.

Just speculating of course... 

[Ignatius]

Considering Loving The Alien and You Got No Right were really popular on the "Contraband Survivor" on this board, one of those would be nice.

Regarding covers, they can pretty much do anything if they want. Matt's in Camp Freddy....




/jarmo

I understand some people do enjoy those two songs but it seems the VR guys are trying to keep the show moving fast while building momentum as the set goes on, I'm not sure if adding 2 slower tempo tunes might be defeating their purpose.

Just speculating of course...?

I rather have a 90 minute set with 2 to 3 slower tempo tunes, than have a 70 minute set with just rockers. You know, time to get your lighters out and get your breath back while you at it as well. Squeeze in a few ballads in there, get your lighter out, listen to the chick next to you screaming her lungs out to YGNR while you get yourself ready for the last round. This is Rcok And Roll live and it always has been.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

I rather have a 90 minute set with 2 to 3 slower tempo tunes, than have a 70 minute set with just rockers.

It's all a matter of taste, but I too would like to hear some slow tempo tunes thrown in to the set every now and then.  It's only on those songs that I can make out what Scott is saying, anyhow.

As for YGNR, I have a vague memory of reading an article which said the band has been too busy touring to properly rehearse that song, but as soon as they had some time, they would be rehearsing it to add to the set.   remember?  remember?

So, it'd be great if they play it at the KROQ Almost Acoustic show. 

[mikegiuliana]

Stop talking about GN'R, this thread is about VR.?



/jarmo

I first used it as an example because it's something we could compare and understand but some keep brining it up so it's natural to reply..

Fine I love the show right now, the band is new with one album and I think everyone is making a big deal about nothing.. Most people are seeing the band for the first time and it's new to them..

[Drew]

I know it's another cover, but "Interstate Love Song" would be a nice regular on the setlist. 

[Walapino]

Considering Loving The Alien and You Got No Right were really popular on the "Contraband Survivor" on this board, one of those would be nice.

Regarding covers, they can pretty much do anything if they want. Matt's in Camp Freddy....




/jarmo

I understand some people do enjoy those two songs but it seems the VR guys are trying to keep the show moving fast while building momentum as the set goes on, I'm not sure if adding 2 slower tempo tunes might be defeating their purpose.

Just speculating of course...?

They dont have to play all the slow songs at the same show, they can rotate them.

[Cocaine__tongue]

My guess is that they should be currently working on new songs for the follow up to contraband, so....why not preview some of that stuff??. They could also play a lot of songs that didn't make it to the album, such as the stuff slash says he worked out with izzy ans that's suposed to be the best instrumental they've written together. If those songs have now lyrics, why not preview them live??.

Just do something special. The current set list is way too obvious, short and repetitive. It's my opinion, I might be right or I may be wrong, just "my 2 cents"

[mikegiuliana]

CT, notice all the song that were written before scott entered have been shit canned?? Maybe they don't play the songs he mentioned because scott wants no part of them..? It's just a guess..

As for the new album I don't think they are really working on it alot, they are playing alot of shows I think they are possibly putting some riff n words together but need some down time tto get somewhere..

They had mentioned abourt having 50-60 songs in the past, but who knows how finished they were and if they will ever be used.,. I think they use the covers instead of material they aren't sure they are going to use..

Whenever a band writes material then gets a ssinger afterwards I think you run teh risk of losing it because the singer might not feel it.. SIngers tend to write their own lyrics, or at least alot of it because they have to believe in it and sing it with feeling..

Hopefully they switch it up within the year..

[Cocaine__tongue]

CT, notice all the song that were written before scott entered have been shit canned?? Maybe they don't play the songs he mentioned because scott wants no part of them..? It's just a guess..

I know that, but Weiland hasn't written any of the music of velvet revolver, so I'd like that some of the unreleased stuff (to date), which will probably be released in the near future (next full album in a year and a half??), would be played live if the lyrics have already been written.

[mikegiuliana]

CT, notice all the song that were written before scott entered have been shit canned?? Maybe they don't play the songs he mentioned because scott wants no part of them..? It's just a guess..

I know that, but Weiland hasn't written any of the music of velvet revolver, so I'd like that some of the unreleased stuff (to date), which will probably be released in the near future (next full album in a year and a half??), would be played live if the lyrics have already been written.

Music do you mean instruments or lyrics?? He seemed to have written fall to pieces and I could sware his name is next to the songs in the sleeve..

I always thought they put aside alot of what izzy wrote and  rewrote when scott joined..
Lyrics r by scott

http://vr.belowempty.com/lyrics.php

[younggunner]

Music do you mean instruments or lyrics?? He seemed to have written fall to pieces and I could sware his name is next to the songs in the sleeve..

I always thought they put aside alot of what izzy wrote and  rewrote when scott joined..
Lyrics r by scott

arent you the same guy who is concerned that gnr are not a band and dont care about the material because they arent in the same room at the same time recording material?

[mikegiuliana]

Music do you mean instruments or lyrics?? He seemed to have written fall to pieces and I could sware his name is next to the songs in the sleeve..

I always thought they put aside alot of what izzy wrote and? rewrote when scott joined..
Lyrics r by scott

arent you the same guy who is concerned that gnr are not a band and dont care about the material because they arent in the same room at the same time recording material?

Bands have an albums.. Did you think izzy was going to write the material scott sang after he left?? Either way it makes sence that they redid stuff for the lead singer, he has to be one with what he does..

It's not like gnr where the material is in stone because it's already been released by the real musicians on an album/s, everything vr has done was for their first album so things could change, they had to get a lead singer, so he must like what he sings..

WHen a band forms you can't expect the lead singer to just sing whatever you hand him, this isn't van halen or judas priets(established bands) where the band has their music already and? things of that nature..

As long as the material is done by the band together it doesn't matter..

[ClintroN]

Man i wish VR would play a Duff solo song from Believe in Me, even the tilte track, that album kicks!!!!

[younggunner]

my only point is you have all these "sceptical" gnr fans who never fail to mention the fact that are gnr really a band when they dont "redord" together yet they dont bring it up when it concerns the most tightest badass dangerous band in the world vr. the same band who basically handed the frontman pre existing tracks and told him to do the best ones. the same dangerous band whos frontman is crying about how sorum has naked chicks walking around.

[Booker Floyd]

Didnt Slash just say Fall To Pieces was written well before VR??

Like Mike said, the song was done by the band, together. 

And at least half of the album was written after Scotts arrrival.