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« Reply #60 on: July 10, 2007, 07:06:40 PM »

I found I and II to be almost unwatchable. I didn't attempt III.
Does that mean they suck? I don't think so, as much as I enjoyed the originals as a kid I doubt I'd find them interesting today. They're kiddie adventure movies, nothing wrong with that (as long as we can admit that they're children's fun-time space stories and not build them up to be modern mythologies worthy of serious contemplation.)
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« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2007, 09:07:39 PM »

I found I and II to be almost unwatchable. I didn't attempt III.
Does that mean they suck? I don't think so, as much as I enjoyed the originals as a kid I doubt I'd find them interesting today. They're kiddie adventure movies, nothing wrong with that (as long as we can admit that they're children's fun-time space stories and not build them up to be modern mythologies worthy of serious contemplation.)

i know plenty of people who were adults who enjoyed the original trilogy just as much as their kids did.

the prequels were just bad stories with bad acting that relied on tons of special effects and not enough substance.  so many retarded things in episode 1 destroyed so many of the cool things about star wars:

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so f'ing lame
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« Reply #62 on: July 11, 2007, 06:49:15 PM »

How are midichlorians lame?  Ive never heard a good arguement for that.
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« Reply #63 on: July 11, 2007, 08:49:59 PM »

i think of star wars as a futuristic version of mythical mythology

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« Reply #64 on: July 11, 2007, 09:19:29 PM »

How are midichlorians lame?  Ive never heard a good arguement for that.

oh my god. are you kidding?  I don't mean this with any disrespect or condescending attitude, but how old are you? I'm just curious.  I don't know anyone who grew up with SW who thinks they aren't one of the most asinine things in all 6 movies.

they are completely retarded b/c it removes all the mystique surrounding the force, how people are all one with it, how its this magical thing, how the force can be strong with certain people and others and instead replaces it with a micro organism that lives inside of you?  so its not YOU that makes the force great, its just your blood count.

god its fucking terrible.  you ever wonder why you almost never hear about them again after phantom menace?  the ONLY cool thing for having them would have been if someone got a sample of annakin or yoda or something and created a clone army of evil jedi's (b/c the sample they took would have had loads of midichlorians) and THATS what wiped out the jedi's, not a bunch of clone troopers (also totally fucking lame).
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« Reply #65 on: July 11, 2007, 10:05:13 PM »

How are midichlorians lame?? Ive never heard a good arguement for that.

oh my god. are you kidding?? I don't mean this with any disrespect or condescending attitude, but how old are you? I'm just curious.? I don't know anyone who grew up with SW who thinks they aren't one of the most asinine things in all 6 movies.

they are completely retarded b/c it removes all the mystique surrounding the force, how people are all one with it, how its this magical thing, how the force can be strong with certain people and others and instead replaces it with a micro organism that lives inside of you?? so its not YOU that makes the force great, its just your blood count.

god its fucking terrible.? you ever wonder why you almost never hear about them again after phantom menace?? the ONLY cool thing for having them would have been if someone got a sample of annakin or yoda or something and created a clone army of evil jedi's (b/c the sample they took would have had loads of midichlorians) and THATS what wiped out the jedi's, not a bunch of clone troopers (also totally fucking lame).

i agree.

you would think lucas would have came up with something better to explain "the force"
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« Reply #66 on: July 11, 2007, 10:45:13 PM »

you would think lucas would have came up with something better to explain "the force"

How about not explaining it at all? Worked the first time.

Lucas has always been a horrible writer of exposition (and dialogue in general) so I really wouldn't expect him to better himself in that regard. Good storyteller, terrible awkward writer. 
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« Reply #67 on: July 11, 2007, 10:48:14 PM »

you would think lucas would have came up with something better to explain "the force"

How about not explaining it at all? Worked the first time.

Lucas has always been a horrible writer of exposition (and dialogue in general) so I really wouldn't expect him to better himself in that regard. Good storyteller, terrible awkward writer.?

the dialogue in episodes II and III made me cringe  Tongue
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« Reply #68 on: July 11, 2007, 10:48:55 PM »

you would think lucas would have came up with something better to explain "the force"

How about not explaining it at all? Worked the first time.


exactly, were fans dying to know the meaning behind the force!?!?  no, it was pretty clear the first time round.

the biggest questions were what made Vader turn evil and how were the jedi wiped out. 

the answer to that is vader screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and a bunch of jedi's getting killed by clones!??!?!?  so fucking retarded.
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« Reply #69 on: July 12, 2007, 12:01:23 AM »

you would think lucas would have came up with something better to explain "the force"

How about not explaining it at all? Worked the first time.


exactly, were fans dying to know the meaning behind the force!?!?? no, it was pretty clear the first time round.

the biggest questions were what made Vader turn evil and how were the jedi wiped out.?

the answer to that is vader screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and a bunch of jedi's getting killed by clones!??!?!?? so fucking retarded.

when it comes to vader turning evil and the killing of the jedi, i think lucas kida rushed it in the movie. everything seemed to happen so fast in ep III.
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« Reply #70 on: July 12, 2007, 12:26:34 AM »

The killing of the jedi had to be a fast thing, don't you see? If they even suspected it was coming they would have prepared for it.
Am I the only one who sees the importance of the story of Ep1 in explaining the rise of Palpatine and the fall of the jedi?
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« Reply #71 on: July 12, 2007, 01:06:59 AM »

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oh my god. are you kidding?  I don't mean this with any disrespect or condescending attitude, but how old are you? I'm just curious.  I don't know anyone who grew up with SW who thinks they aren't one of the most asinine things in all 6 movies.

they are completely retarded b/c it removes all the mystique surrounding the force, how people are all one with it, how its this magical thing, how the force can be strong with certain people and others and instead replaces it with a micro organism that lives inside of you?  so its not YOU that makes the force great, its just your blood count.

Not that it matters, but Im 30.  Star Wars was a pretty big part of my childhood, and I guarantee you that I know way more about it than you. With that being said, midichlorians do not change the force AT ALL.  "{The force is an energy field that surrounds us and penetrates us."  The midichlorians dont change that.  What they do do is explain why the force can be strong in certain familys, and how force sensitivity can be passed down.  Thats it.  Thats why they were put into the story.  It explains why not everyone can be Jedi.  If they werent introduced, Im sure that all the fanboys would be asking why doesnt the Republic just train hundreds of thousands of soldiers in the ways of the force.  The midichlorians puts a limit on things and make being a Jedi even more special. 
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« Reply #72 on: July 12, 2007, 01:32:41 AM »

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oh my god. are you kidding?  I don't mean this with any disrespect or condescending attitude, but how old are you? I'm just curious.  I don't know anyone who grew up with SW who thinks they aren't one of the most asinine things in all 6 movies.

they are completely retarded b/c it removes all the mystique surrounding the force, how people are all one with it, how its this magical thing, how the force can be strong with certain people and others and instead replaces it with a micro organism that lives inside of you?  so its not YOU that makes the force great, its just your blood count.

Not that it matters, but Im 30.  Star Wars was a pretty big part of my childhood, and I guarantee you that I know way more about it than you. With that being said, midichlorians do not change the force AT ALL.  "{The force is an energy field that surrounds us and penetrates us."  The midichlorians dont change that.  What they do do is explain why the force can be strong in certain familys, and how force sensitivity can be passed down.  Thats it.  Thats why they were put into the story.  It explains why not everyone can be Jedi.  If they werent introduced, Im sure that all the fanboys would be asking why doesnt the Republic just train hundreds of thousands of soldiers in the ways of the force.  The midichlorians puts a limit on things and make being a Jedi even more special. 

Whatever midichlorians are, I think they did enough in the first trilogy by simply saying things like "The Force is strong with this one."  That makes it clear that not everyone is equal in their ability to use or to be trained in the force.   
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« Reply #73 on: July 12, 2007, 06:29:56 AM »

you would think lucas would have came up with something better to explain "the force"

How about not explaining it at all? Worked the first time.


exactly, were fans dying to know the meaning behind the force!?!?? no, it was pretty clear the first time round.

the biggest questions were what made Vader turn evil and how were the jedi wiped out.?

the answer to that is vader screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and a bunch of jedi's getting killed by clones!??!?!?? so fucking retarded.

when it comes to vader turning evil and the killing of the jedi, i think lucas kida rushed it in the movie. everything seemed to happen so fast in ep III.

I agree. He just sort of turned to the dark side, just like that. He went from being an emo-Jedi to Vader in like two seconds.

-"what have I done?" to killing a bunch of kids, just like that.
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« Reply #74 on: July 12, 2007, 09:49:51 AM »

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oh my god. are you kidding?  I don't mean this with any disrespect or condescending attitude, but how old are you? I'm just curious.  I don't know anyone who grew up with SW who thinks they aren't one of the most asinine things in all 6 movies.

they are completely retarded b/c it removes all the mystique surrounding the force, how people are all one with it, how its this magical thing, how the force can be strong with certain people and others and instead replaces it with a micro organism that lives inside of you?  so its not YOU that makes the force great, its just your blood count.

Not that it matters, but Im 30.  Star Wars was a pretty big part of my childhood, and I guarantee you that I know way more about it than you. With that being said, midichlorians do not change the force AT ALL.  "{The force is an energy field that surrounds us and penetrates us."  The midichlorians dont change that.  What they do do is explain why the force can be strong in certain familys, and how force sensitivity can be passed down.  Thats it.  Thats why they were put into the story.  It explains why not everyone can be Jedi.  If they werent introduced, Im sure that all the fanboys would be asking why doesnt the Republic just train hundreds of thousands of soldiers in the ways of the force.  The midichlorians puts a limit on things and make being a Jedi even more special. 

if you want to claim to know more about star wars then me i won't argue  hihi

there was never a need for an explanation.  some people had it, some people didn't - simple as that.  by making it all lame and scientific why not just clone darth maul and make an army of Sith!!??!?!  oh wait, b/c there is another retarded rule he made that there can only be one master and one apprentice. HUH!??!?! WHA!?!??! why!?!?!

god the more i talk about these  shitty movies the more i can't believe how Lucas totally fucked the franchise in the ass.
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« Reply #75 on: July 12, 2007, 10:00:25 AM »

If more midichlorians makes one stronger in the force... then when Vader becomes mostly machine, shouldn't his abilities be weaker?? There's so few midichlorians to speak to him!? ?hihi
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« Reply #76 on: July 12, 2007, 10:08:09 AM »

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there was never a need for an explanation.  some people had it, some people didn't - simple as that.  by making it all lame and scientific why not just clone darth maul and make an army of Sith!!??!?!  oh wait, b/c there is another retarded rule he made that there can only be one master and one apprentice. HUH!??!?! WHA!?!??! why!?!?!

god the more i talk about these  shitty movies the more i can't believe how Lucas totally fucked the franchise in the ass.

Yup.

Lucas believes the whole mystique and hype over SW and shot himself in the foot.
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« Reply #77 on: July 12, 2007, 11:45:01 AM »

If more midichlorians makes one stronger in the force... then when Vader becomes mostly machine, shouldn't his abilities be weaker?  There's so few midichlorians to speak to him!   hihi

Hmm...maybe because he was delegged, there are fewer midichlorians to speak to him, but he NEEDS fewer!  Or maybe they concentrate in certain places...like the genitals.   hihi 
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« Reply #78 on: July 12, 2007, 09:30:07 PM »

How did star wars end?  not with a bang but a "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

http://darthno.ytmnd.com/

this one is 1,000x funnier

http://vaderfortune.ytmnd.com/
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