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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2010, 06:26:49 PM »

I think Dave is a lot more like Finck then anyone else in Guns. Having said that, the band is a much different one then the freak show years (The height of creativity clearly for the new GN'R (until they stop doing shows and get down to business again)). Dave would have fit like a glove. I would have liked to have seen him step in when Finck left instead of DJ. As a JA fan it would have softened the blow better for me. Bucket and Finck suddenly not being there was a real fucked up one two punch that left me bloodied and bruised. I am still not completely feeling DJ. A new album anywhere near the same Universe as Chinese Democracy would change this absolutely.

Yes same for me, the Finckster's irreplaceable.  Cry

And I too think that Dave Navarro would have suited GN'R better than DJ, simply because his style is more closer to the Nu GN'R - Finck - Industrial feel than Ashba.

You see GN'R to me is Bucket, Finck, Chinese Democracy, Oh My God and all of that kind of vibe. So with DJ coming into the band who has an old school Rock N' Roll feel. I feel like that's the only reason why I'm not completely sold on him either, because I fell in love with GN'R through the Bucket/Finck/Industrial years.

And I also want to point out that it's not a flaw on DJ, because that's who he is. He is from the same school as the Crue, but I feel more at home with Bucket, Finck, Brain and even Tobias...


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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2010, 06:40:35 PM »

I think Dave is a lot more like Finck then anyone else in Guns. Having said that, the band is a much different one then the freak show years (The height of creativity clearly for the new GN'R (until they stop doing shows and get down to business again)). Dave would have fit like a glove. I would have liked to have seen him step in when Finck left instead of DJ. As a JA fan it would have softened the blow better for me. Bucket and Finck suddenly not being there was a real fucked up one two punch that left me bloodied and bruised. I am still not completely feeling DJ. A new album anywhere near the same Universe as Chinese Democracy would change this absolutely.

Yes same for me, the Finckster's irreplaceable.  Cry

And I too think that Dave Navarro would have suited GN'R better than DJ, simply because his style is more closer to the Nu GN'R - Finck - Industrial feel than Ashba.

You see GN'R to me is Bucket, Finck, Chinese Democracy, Oh My God and all of that kind of vibe. So with DJ coming into the band who has an old school Rock N' Roll feel. I feel like that's the only reason why I'm not completely sold on him either, because I fell in love with GN'R through the Bucket/Finck/Industrial years.

And I also want to point out that it's not a flaw on DJ, because that's who he is. He is from the same school as the Crue, but I feel more at home with Bucket, Finck, Brain and even Tobias...




Feel the same way actually, I like DJ's work in Sixx:AM but in GN'R.. I kinda feel like he is Slash 2.0 or something.
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2010, 07:41:32 PM »

Let me be the first to say Thank GOD he didn't.

one of the most overrated celebrities/guitarists of the 20th century by far.

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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2010, 07:52:33 PM »

Let me be the first to say Thank GOD he didn't.

one of the most overrated celebrities/guitarists of the 20th century by far.



I agree. DJ Ashba and Bumblefoot  fits much better in GNR than Buckethead, Robin Finck or Dave Navarro would have. GNR isn't an industrial or alternative band. That's not them. It NEVER was them. I want to see some experimentation like ITW and Better (which would have risen to a #1 single had  the record company not screwed u) , but  mostly I want a hard rock bluesy band.  If I want industrial music, I'll go listen to NIN who specialize in that. It's good to expand but just remember where your bread and butter is. GNR is a hard rock band.  Btw, Axl's voice fits better with DJ than with Robin. Like I said before, Axl's voice is back to that  early 90s sound.
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2010, 08:18:51 PM »

who needs to go back to the nineties ?

how can some people say Finck & Buckethead didn't fit in Guns, since they played an essential role on Chinese Democracy ?

that's just plain stupid.

Guns is not a simple hardrock band. it's a rock n'roll band who evolve and has a rich pannel of sounds.

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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2010, 08:36:51 PM »

who needs to go back to the nineties ?

how can some people say Finck & Buckethead didn't fit in Guns, since they played an essential role on Chinese Democracy ?

that's just plain stupid.

Guns is not a simple hardrock band. it's a rock n'roll band who evolve and has a rich pannel of sounds.



And people forget, Axl handpicked these players himself.

All these players who people love to hate, like even Dave Navarro. Was all in Axls' vision, as to what Guns N' Roses should represent in the new decade of 2000.

The special thing about GN'R is that they are not a typical Rock N' Roll band like Crue or Poison. Chinese Democracy which is not just an album, it was GN'R's identity for a decade. And in my view that whole period in Guns has put them above the likes of other typical rock bands. And thinking about it what the old members still represent to this present day.

But Axl showed a vision, and started a myth and a legend that have prepelled GN'R into legend status. So it is extremely disrespectful to disregard members from GN'Rs' Industrial/Chinese years.
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« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2010, 08:46:18 PM »

If you want a completely new sounding band, Finck and Bucket are the way to go

If u want a new sound but enough original sounding GNR to appease both new and old fanbase, DJ and BUmble are perfect.

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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2010, 10:00:34 AM »

From Dave Navarro in this video where he addresses some rumors:

Rumor: He turned down Guns N' Roses

Dave Navarro: "At the time, it was about 1991, I was deep in a heroin addiction ... bad drug addict ... and so it wasn't so much that I turned down the opportunity, as much as I wasn't really available to take it.  Luckily things worked out for me, and for those guys."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THJtSRQM9SI

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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2010, 03:53:02 PM »

Let me be the first to say Thank GOD he didn't.

one of the most overrated celebrities/guitarists of the 20th century by far.



i don't believe you have heard what he's capable of. anyone who has, can't possibly say something like this..
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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2010, 06:30:35 PM »

Sorry Hutz/Kiedis,hillell  hihi

I've never dug his style and he happened to make the only Unlistenable Chili Pepper album.

so yeah.
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2010, 04:09:25 AM »

not quite. Dave never showed up for the jam sessions, that's how Slash realized he was on drugs. i think they tried to schedule a jam 2 or 3 times without him showing up.

Yes, Slash touches on this in his book.  Slash said Axl really wanted Navarro to jam with him, and they scheduled some sessions.  Navarro drove Slash nuts by no-showing every time, so GNR finally moved on.
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2010, 06:15:23 AM »

Sorry Hutz/Kiedis,hillell  hihi

I've never dug his style and he happened to make the only Unlistenable Chili Pepper album.

Didn't flea record all the guitar parts on that album?
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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2010, 11:16:36 AM »

Sorry Hutz/Kiedis,hillell  hihi

I've never dug his style and he happened to make the only Unlistenable Chili Pepper album.

Didn't flea record all the guitar parts on that album?

No  no
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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2010, 06:21:18 PM »

I remember reading in an issue of guitar or guitar one that Flea had to play most of the guitar parts for the album,
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« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2011, 08:42:33 PM »

I remember reading in an issue of guitar or guitar one that Flea had to play most of the guitar parts for the album,

he didn't, Dave recorded all guitar parts for that album.
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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2011, 09:15:15 AM »


AXL: Yeah, there was a lot of talk about that, and we were very open to it. But it just wasn?t the right time in Dave?s life for it to happen.
He was kind of needing the time to just see where he was at, and he?s been very successful at that. But the idea of working with him
excites me to no end because I still put on Jane?s Addiction and it always seems brand new, no matter how many times I hear it.

Talk about  a classy N' politically correct answer...Better than saying he was too strung out 2 play (as Dave said)...
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