How tight are 'New' GNR going to be together musically after all this time?

[GNFNR_UK]

 Finck? was a disaster.

I wouldn't say Finck was a complete disaster but he did fuck up a few of the solos. All the new songs were fine and I liked his Sweet Child solo (On Albany DVD) but on some of the others he sounded a bit sloppy, like he was missing strings.? People say Guns don't need Bucket either, well if they don't they do need a suitable replacement cos if Finck has trouble pulling off Slash's solos he will have an either harder time pulling off Buckets.? BH has a very distinctive style, one that I would imagine being very hard to replicate and that shredding is unbelievable, Axl had BH there for a reason people.

[chinesedemocracy05]

Rock IN Rio wasnt a good show, was like seeing a gnr cover band, but the new songs were great.

Thank you Rock In Rio wasn't a good show at all. There were alot of sound problems, but that doesn't make up for the fact that Axl was just bad that night. If he sings like MSG every nite and the band plays like that every nite we'll be in for a hell of a ride if/when they tour

[Carlos_f_Rose]

Man, sadly Axl has lost a part of his voice, he sounds way different from those golden days. And the old songs sound kind of funny. I wanted to believe he did that porpousely to return with an excellent voice, only compared with the old days. Now that would be a great strategy, cancelling tours, having bad voice, only to create more expectation, now, thats another dream.

[DunkinDave]

Rock IN Rio wasnt a good show, was like seeing a gnr cover band, but the new songs were great.

Thank you Rock In Rio wasn't a good show at all. There were alot of sound problems, but that doesn't make up for the fact that Axl was just bad that night. If he sings like MSG every nite and the band plays like that every nite we'll be in for a hell of a ride if/when they tour

If we ever get a soundboard of MSG, it's safe to say his voice will sound just like it did at any other 2002 concert.

Axl's voice was better at Vegas 01 and Rio than it was at any 2002 show.

That's probably because he was in better shape in 2001, and compared to the 2002 shows he didn't run around as much.

So Vegas 01 is the best example of his post-2000 voice because there was less stage space and he was focused more on his vocals than his movement.

[Kaybee]

I didn't think Axl's voice sounded that bad. It didn't blow me away, but it certainly wasn't awful.

[GNFNR_UK]

Rock IN Rio wasnt a good show, was like seeing a gnr cover band, but the new songs were great.

Thank you Rock In Rio wasn't a good show at all. There were alot of sound problems, but that doesn't make up for the fact that Axl was just bad that night. If he sings like MSG every nite and the band plays like that every nite we'll be in for a hell of a ride if/when they tour

If we ever get a soundboard of MSG, it's safe to say his voice will sound just like it did at any other 2002 concert.

Axl's voice was better at Vegas 01 and Rio than it was at any 2002 show.

That's probably because he was in better shape in 2001, and compared to the 2002 shows he didn't run around as much.

So Vegas 01 is the best example of his post-2000 voice because there was less stage space and he was focused more on his vocals than his movement.

I don't think Axl was in better shape in 2001, he looks like he's in worse shape if anything, look at his gut on Rio 2001! I don;t think his voice was better in 01 either except for maybe at the start of 'The Blues' in Rio, I liked it when he did the higher 'You know I tried so hard to make you...' as aposed to his 2002 growl. He was running around too much at Rio, a perfect example of how the running can fuck his singing up is on Maddy Rio, the ahhhhhh part sounds awful cos he's running around.

[DunkinDave]

Rock IN Rio wasnt a good show, was like seeing a gnr cover band, but the new songs were great.

Thank you Rock In Rio wasn't a good show at all. There were alot of sound problems, but that doesn't make up for the fact that Axl was just bad that night. If he sings like MSG every nite and the band plays like that every nite we'll be in for a hell of a ride if/when they tour

If we ever get a soundboard of MSG, it's safe to say his voice will sound just like it did at any other 2002 concert.

Axl's voice was better at Vegas 01 and Rio than it was at any 2002 show.

That's probably because he was in better shape in 2001, and compared to the 2002 shows he didn't run around as much.

So Vegas 01 is the best example of his post-2000 voice because there was less stage space and he was focused more on his vocals than his movement.

I don't think Axl was in better shape in 2001, he looks like he's in worse shape if anything, look at his gut on Rio 2001!

At least he exposed his stomach in 2001, in 2002 he had jerseys on all the time.

What was he hiding?

And his face was fatter in 2002 than it was in 2001.

People forget that between Rio and the North American tour there was almost a 2 year layoff.

Plenty of time for one to gain weight.

[badapple81]

How surprising..

The thread has turned into a discussion about Axl's weight and 'Robin is a disaster'   

[Mikkamakka]

Finck and Brain, who is a good drummer, was a disaster.

Brain a disaster??
are you kidding? His drums was awesome!
Robin wasn't a disaster either, he was really good at rythm, but he fucked-up lots of guitar solos. He seemed very nervous when he had to fill Slash shoes on Lead...it's like if it was the Himalaya for him sometimes (November Rain...)

When they confused the rhythm, it was mostly caused by Brain. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a very good drummer, but didn't take enough time to learn the songs.

Robin's rhythm playing was OK, I would hardly criticize him as a rhythm guitarist, but he played more lead than BH, and if Nu-GN'R ever comes back it's likely that he'll be the first guitarist. And he fails as a lead guitarist. Sometimes he plays good (I like how he plays the Brownstone solo), but more often he makes mistakes he mustn't. It's Guns N' Roses, a guitar band, not NIN, an industrial band where fuck-ups can turn out to be 'good'.

Rehearsals, rehearsals, rehearsals...

[nesquick]

but he played more lead than BH, and if Nu-GN'R ever comes back it's likely that he'll be the first guitarist.

No, I think it will be 50/50 with Fortus. They will share the guitar parts (rythm + solos)?
Expect Richard to be a world class guitar player once the tour starts.

Sometimes he plays good (I like how he plays the Brownstone solo), but more often he makes mistakes he mustn't. It's Guns N' Roses, a guitar band, not NIN, an industrial band where fuck-ups can turn out to be 'good'.

I think we will see a different Robin next time. More generally, I do believe a lot of thing will be different. I'm sure we will see a more "Classic-Rock" band next time than the one in 2002. Maybe they will change a few things.