Here Today... Gone To Hell!

http://dishnation.com/guns-n-roses-reunion-tour-2016/

Interesting but I don't thinks it's true...

shameless selfpromotion 2 me, I think Slash and Axl will play 2gether tho :peace:

Bad Link

Here's a working link to another site:

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/report_guns_n_roses_are_announcing_worldwide_reunion_tour_in_a_matter_of_days.html

No idea if this is legit news or not, though.

Excerpt from article:
The band ? which started in a Hollywood deli​ and were signed in 1986​ ? sold over 100 million albums worldwide.

Here's another   http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/report_guns_n_roses_are_announcing_worldwide_reunion_tour_in_a_matter_of_days.html

And this one      http://dishnation.com/guns-n-roses-reunion-tour-2016/

and another   http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/73958037/a-possible-guns-n-roses-reunion-is-on-the-cards

Finally, Jesus. About fucking time.

Well looking for this board to blow up like never before :beer:

 :rofl: I'll believe it when TB & Axl say it's official.

oh shit

I've been skeptical. too good to be true. and just tough for me to imagine Axl doing it.

I still am skeptical, but this article is blowing up. one of the top trends on FB. tons of comments about reunion on GnR's FB page.

I think someone (Duff, Slash, TB, Axl) will address the rumors in the coming days. IF they are true, maybe we get the announcement (or a leak) as mentioned in the article. But if they are not true, I think someone will feel the need to address them. too many people (like myself, for example) are getting really excited at the prospect of them reuniting. and then if it doesn't happen, it will be a huge disappointment.

if the rumors are false, and Axl plans to continue with GnR (i.e. without Slash or Duff), it is in his best interest to squash the reunion rumors ASAP. some chatter online and BS rumors are not a huge deal, but this article will probably be picked up by many major news outlets very soon. rock fans around the globe will be thinking a reunion will happen if this is not addressed, which would not be good for GnR (if false).

the problem is that maybe there truly is a chance of a reunion and that is being worked on, but not yet finalized, which would prevent anyone from addressing it.  

Silence is an answer too.

duffs most recent twitter pic had an interesting photo in a frame in the background ;)

Hints hints...  :D

I hope this is true!!

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Here's the picture link I was given, I can't seem to get it to post  :rant:

Edit:Fixed!

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Eddie Trunk ‏@EddieTrunk  9m9 minutes ago
I've said for years I think a @gunsnroses reunion could happen. I've also said until there is REAL OFFICIAL news I'll stay away from rumors

haha except generally hes the one starting them  :P

I never post always lurk?.because I am not a huge fan of Axl and the decisions made in the last two decades, however this would be great just to see them bury the hatchet and play one more round of shows

That said, although I may not of liked the revolving nature of the members of GNR I truly hope if they pull off a reunion they allow the guys who did try and keep the band together over the years to be part of the tour. They deserve that much

Does anyone know where this pic came from: https://twitter.com/tyasoudegan/status/664611936324202496/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

A really bad amateur Photoshop. That is where it came from.

That was going around weeks ago, horrible Photoshop attempt  :hihi:

            This would be cool if true and perhaps a reason why we really didn't see Rose try and do new material with Ashba and Thal. I guess its a wait and see....will the world be stunned in a couple days ? Who knows.

Ultimate Guitar and the NZ link are both quoting Dishnation as their source. And the Dishnation article is pretty crap if you read it. :P Old quotes taken out of context, incorrect info, etc. It's just tabloidy fluff.

What would he have to talk about if he wasn't starting rumors?

It is odd.  There sure is a lot of smoke for there to be no fire.  Maybe in December we will get an announcement after Slash is off the road... How many Tuesdays are left in 2015?

The only thing that keeps bugging me is the silence surrounding this subject. These kind of articles come and go as they have done in the past, and some people get excited about them, but in the past someone has eventually spoken and shot them down. But now it's been surprisingly long time with no word from anyone who actually knows stuff (correct me if I'm wrong). If there isn't going to be a reunion, I think it would be GN'R's benefit to cut the rumours pretty quickly...

I think the mistake here is mixing up AFD reunion with Axl+Slash and Duff reunion. Does anyone here really believes that Izzy is going to go on a worldwide stadium/festival tour? What about Steven, can he handle it? I personally see a hybrid GNR a much more realistic possibility.

I think most of the people who are expecting a reunion are considering Axl+Slash+Duff combination a reunion.

As for Steven, I don't think he could do a full tour of the size it would be.

The thing is that all the sites that are spreading rumours about a reunion always mention that it's going to be the AFD reunion, that's why I know it's BS. If they start being more specific about which lineup will reunite then it may be a sign that their source is legit.

Eddie Teunk is such a name dropping narcissist..I've been saying for days it was going to rain, and guess what Tuesday and Wednesday it rained!!

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http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/report-reunion-tour-of-classic-guns-n-roses-lineup-close-to-being-revealed/

Id go see a reunion show. But I really like Chinese Democracy and I'm probably going to love the second half so I hope I see that too in the 2016.

If they have Steven, there will probably be a risk of someone not showing up. He's going to get gay for the other dudes like he does in interview then decide to get stoned. They need either Matt Sorum or Frank Ferrer.

Axl, Slash, and Duff is enough of a reunion for me (although I?d love to see Izzy and Steven too, but each have their own issues why they wouldn?t/shouldn?t do a full tour).  IMO, Axl, Slash and Duff would draw the same amount of people as the original AFD 5.  Right or wrong, I think having those three would be enough. 

I know reunion rumors have persisted throughout the years, but this time it seems different.  No denouncement from Axl or Slash, and multiple current members have left (is it a coincident the band is currently looking for a lead guitarist and bassist?).  Dammit, I?m sucked back into the reunion rabbit hole. 

Yeah and there was a tHunderstorm last night. So i got to sing Fuck you thunder in the November rain. I think i made it pretty clear in the past that i am not a fan of Eddie Trunk.

I've been saying this for a few weeks...if it's not in the cards... I would think it would be best to shut it down by now...

Yep.  I know I am.

Axl/Slash/Duff may not be considered the optimum by some.  But its damn sure better than Axl and a bunch of dudes named Harry playing GNR songs.

Obviously, hope very much this is true.

Obviously anything is better than what is going on now.
Slash back playing with Axl is infinitely more interesting than what?s been happening.

I understand Axl, Slash and Duff alone is a gigantic step in the right direction, but no one sees the irony in leaving out Izzy and Steven?
Losing them is what spelled the end of GN?R in the first place.

So very true in regards to izzy and a lesser extent Steven.

GNR did not end with their departure. IMO things would have gone alot better in the long run if Stevie had never been involved.

LongGone....ain't a reunion without Izzy....why ANYONE thinks Duff is more important than Izzy is well beyond my comprehension.

He's not.

But if one wants to do it and the other does not, what can you do?

The only way you could say Izzy is certainly more important than Duff is if they were trying to write and record 10 new songs..

I hope izzy wants to tour... but if he doesn't... it wouldn't ruin this for me.

D, Who said Izzy didn't want to do it? He played a lot more shows with Axl in this era than Duff did. You know he didn't go to the RnR Hall of Fame because Axl didn't. You don't think they talked about that? Izzy would be in if it is done full on. Imo.

Izzy also stated in an interview a few years ago that he would be interested in doing it, because after all he said they were "his songs".

A lot of people assume he doesn't want any part of it, but that's just a silly assumption that he doesn't want to tour now and make a billion dollars.

I'm guessing.  You were the one that said he wasn't doing it.  I was just theorizing on why.

But, like JAEBALL said, if he is in fact out, its not a dealbreaker for me.

I'd agree, but Izzy has always been such a weirdo.  Its hard to say for sure.

Here it is

Thiago: But if the case would occur, would you consider a reunion as possible?

Izzy: Yes, of course. I wrote a big part of that material.


http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=54054.0

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Gotta love the Nature Boy Ric Flair...... :hihi:

I gotta say i'm also a little tired of hearing about song writing credits and who was more important than who...

Appetite For Destruction... doesn't get made or become the success it was without all 5 guys.... That is just the truth.

Same goes for Lies, and illusions and even Chinese Democracy... who is to say how any one song would have turned out without the input of X on that particular song.

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ?

It is a weird time. I've been in limbo for a few years now, hoping that some movement would occur.

I loved the direction Axl started in '01 with the Bucket and Finck leads though I lost interest as each of these two wonderful players left.  A reunion, however, is the next best thing to getting that '01 line up back together.

What if Izzy has told axl hey i might pop in for a show or two but not a full length tour does that make it ok then if he is not fully involved

Hahahaha

I had to draw that guy from memory.  I think its pretty good.

Good point.  I believe Izzy will be past of this but Fortus will be here in case Izzy doesn't do the whole tour.  Personally I hope it's the orignal 5 plus Dizzy and have Sorum come in and play Illusion stuff.

Anyone see the pic In the background on Duffs latest tweet? Talk about playing with us.

Yes I don't think he's messing with people or anything just happens to be on the wall

but we have been told to read between the lines!

LOL  True  maybe he is purposely messing with us     : ok:

This came from one of those links, and I think it sums up whatever reunion hopes are out there....



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As a general rule, you should always trust someone with nipple pasties...

"Not in this lifetime." AXL ROSE

are there any odds in vegas on this by the way lol. I actually am starting to think this is going to happen. Axl has the right to change his mind maybe there was a time where he didn't think it would ever happen but as the saying goes "time heals all wounds" maybe axl has had a change of heart and if he has let's embrace it whether your for a reunion or not.

I don't believe this until TB or Axl confirm. This is all rumours or misinterpretations of vague statements or shoutouts from very unrelieble sources. Don't get any closer to truth just because the message is repeated.

Why do we have so many threads of the same thing?

Eventually somebody HAS to address this right ?

It is EVERYWHERE

If Guns announces a tour sans Saul Hudson at this point ... People are going to go ballistic. Get in front of it.

Yo the whole internet looks like a less informed version of the HTGTH board today.

The fact that this is still up on here tells me that it is happening. Do you think it will happen Jarmo?

There's no reason to believe it won't happen the only question is who exactly in the band and when's the tour. That first show will be insane

Man, I hope Axl has an awesome voice. As long as he can sing estranged, I don't care who's playing guitar or drums. If there is a reunion, I think it would only be great if Axl had a perfect voice.

Unless it's true, then no harm in letting people twist for a while.  Or could be neither true nor false yet, still considering, negotiating, etc.

a Ric Flair fan website...

No word for Axl regarding a Reunion, I guess "silenceis golden when I'm holding it inside", fits perfectly..

The actual lyric is *isnt.

Hey,, Reunion AFD Classic Is: AXL, IZZY, SLASH, DUFF & STEVEN.

Whit Matt NOT Reunion Classic AFD, Only NewLine Up,,, Whit Slash & Frank & Co, Also NewLineUp

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So if you were unhappy you could not get the line-up you wanted, would you not support the band?

Uh-oh.

Of course most people will love any lineup as long as it is Axl and Slash, but sure it would be ironic if we're denied a AFD reunion simply because Izzy won't commit to a tour or the guys won't work with Steven. I mean, after all the bad blood between Axl and Slash, for them to bury the hatchet is nothing short of a miracle.

Also, earlier someone posted an interview with Izzy saying he'd take part in a reunion, but the last time he was faced with something similar was with Velvet Revolver. According to Slash they jammed for weeks and wrote ten songs, but as soon as it became serious and they started to audition singers Izzy disappeared without a trace.

How will the narrative change if the reunion happens?

Is it even possible that with this many rumours nothing would happen? No, it's not possible even with Guns.


Most people wouldn't be able to name the original lineup while everyone knows Slash.

Nothing will happen for most of next year as Slash is booked in concerets

So that means.. 

No more smoke and mirrors.

Whats going on with this current band????

New music?

Tour plans???

And that is the bottom line and the real truth in all of this.  : ok:

OK, so now things are shaping up. Another rumour, I know, but this one at least goes in more details regarding the lineup and it says that the band will only play a handful of festival dates in 2016, with the proper tour going on in 2017. This goes along with the fact that Slash will be busy touring his solo album next year.

http://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2015/11/13/guns-n-roses-reunited-lineup-unlikely-be-all-original (http://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2015/11/13/guns-n-roses-reunited-lineup-unlikely-be-all-original)

"From everything I have heard from multiple trusted sources..." ::)

Even though a lineup like that would be pretty nice.

OK, now this, WTF?  ??? Vicky Hamilton has just posted this on her Facebook:

"Ok...was texting with Slash who is on tour...he says the GNR tour isn't happening...so that's all I know... your guess is as good as mine..."

https://www.facebook.com/aestheticv?fref=nf&pnref=story (https://www.facebook.com/aestheticv?fref=nf&pnref=story)

I just saw that on Facebook, wonder if she had permission to share a private text message?

Exactly. If you are a person who is going to share a message (assuming this is without permission) then you are a person that is not going to be fed accurate information. I'm not sure this really gets us any closer to the truth.

Ah, come on, give me a break! I don't know who to believe anymore!  :rant: Nikki Sixx has just posted on twitter that the reunion is definitely happening. Is there any chance that D.J. might have told him something about it?

https://twitter.com/NikkiSixx/status/664956306483224576 (https://twitter.com/NikkiSixx/status/664956306483224576)

Dj Ashba (fb):
Rumors, rumors, read all about it! Personally, I would love to see the original members of Guns N' Roses reunite. Let's hope it happens for the fans!! wink emoticon ~ Much Love ~ DJA

hEy Brother:

I HBK.. Ok ?? Alive GNR from 1987,  :love: All Members, You Is New, respect yOU pOSITION.

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Rumors.... But in the last years people in the business used to answer  "i don't know" "i don't care" "i don't think so" when asked about a reunion....  Now it sounds a little different...Plus people around axl don't shut down all of these talking.

PErsonally I'd like to see Axl & Slash shacking hands once again, that would be enough for me, the magic of the 80s and the 90s has gone forever...And to make it work Axl should be in topform like in the 2006-2010 era, and i don't know if he can go back there, at this point.

But again, i think it will happen

Its very clear the band could make a lot of cash from this something to set themselves up for the rest of their lives so it will happen of that i'm sure of,but for me it has to be the original line up,that of course included Steven and all the baggage he brings,the se4econd he left something as it almost always does left the band,we all know his history but thats besides the point,Sorum was a good drummer but it wasnt the same for me at least.

So if the tour is going ahead have both drummers but Steven,if he's fit enough for me has to be involved thats GNR thats the line up that made that album anything else is a dilution of that.

If the reunion happens, I hope it's for the right reasons and not for nostalgia, money or anything like that. It would have to sound, look, feel and simply be real to work. And that being said, I hope whatever lineup GN'R is going with in the future, it will fulfil that criteria and have a real future.

Picked up by the BBC yesterday;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34796752/could-the-original-guns-n-roses-line-up-be-re-forming

Not sure if that's geo-locked to the UK.

No new info, but a pretty large article right in the mainstream news.

Without official announcement(s) being made, I would stay very careful with high hopes...(although they seem legit according to the numerous rumors lately)
...the potential dissapointment will be very high for a lot of people, in case nothing would happen in the end.

"GN'R LIES"

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Well if this isn't the news within 2-4 months or the reason Richard said 2016 will be a big year for GNR I am bereft of idea's that would make those statements possible.

I may be alone but I'd much prefer they got together (with Izzy) and wrote and recorded a mini album that a tour of the old stuff.

Instead of confirming or denying, the band came out and told us to "read between the lines"
That is what we are doing now.

I wish I knew what meant. Id stay positive about what ever happens, but I'd be slightly hurt inside of a reunion comes before the album they have been talking about since 2011...

I think that the boys are playing to this to their advantage as the time draws closer. More and more buzz. It is happening, it isn't happening. It keeps people talking. Hopefully it is happening.

Maybe someone should ask Miles about recording next year and how the GNR Reunion is effecting the process. Just saying.  :smoking:

I understand, but nothing is confirmed until an official announcement is made, until then it's all speculation, gossip and rumor.

They been burning the midnight oil to get that in your hands, have they?

There is little evidence there is any real progress being made on that front.  You could actually argue there has been no evidence, depending on where you stand on Pittman's random twitter pic of the studio posted with no context or no follow up.

What I'm getting it as that is hardly like any sort of reunion tour is going to rob Axl of time he would otherwise be using to supposedly get this alleged album out.

I agree. A much as I would love for that album tomorrow, you cant say with a straight face that any tour with any lineup will get in the way of this release. there is no reason to believe that release would be imminent any time soon regardless of reunion chatter.


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/5-reasons-guns-n-roses-will-reunite-and-5-reasons-they-wont-20151113

This made me chuckle, pretty accurate too.

Just read 3 things on the reunion..
1-Nikki Sixx says it's happening...Does he have insight from DJ, or mere speculation?
2-Vicki Hamilton says Slash texted her and it's not happening..
3-Lineup will be Axl,Slash,Dufff,Dizy,Frank and Fortus...No Adler,Sorum,Izzy or Gilby...
Feel bad for Steven and Matt...Guessing Izzy is sitting out by choice or they are going with Axl's preferred 3 guitarist attack with Slash,Izzy and Fortus..
Or none of it is true,all LIES....

Unfortunate if the speculated lineup of Fortus and Ferrer, over Izzy, Adler and/or Sorum is true.
Sure, Slash and Duff?s potential involvement is great, but it just isn?t GN?R w/o Izzy, and I?m sure they won?t be offering any discounts to reflect his exclusion.
If they were charging $75-$100, I?d be down for it. But if they are expecting Stones-esque ticket prices for a half assed reunion, I?ll probably let someone else get swindled. Full on AFD/Illusions lineup? Yea, I?d probably fork over a ludicrous amount of cash.

I'm capping out at $200 regardless, won't pay more than that for a concert, not even if Doc Brown's DeLorean takes me to one of their 1986 shows on the club circuit. 

If Axl, Slash, and Duff go back out there, I'm paying.

Little point talking some big game about what I won't do because I know myself.  At the end of the day, I'll justify it however I have to. 

I have no willpower for my favorite things.

I don?t know man, I think catching a ride with Doc Brown back to ?86 would get a few undo or so out of me. But yea, barring that, they can probably keep my ticket.
Especially if this sort of-reunion business is true.

Well I fully admit that my will power isn't exactly bomb proof either, but I'm going to talk the talk up until I cave.
At the moment, though, a "reunion" featuring Fortus and Ferrer sounds pretty weak.

I'll pay whatever I have to for good seats for Axl Slash and Duff.

I already told my wife I'm using my vacation and going on a mini-tour if this happens.  I'll hit up at least 4-5 shows, I don't care if it's 200$ a night + hotels.

Exactly.  I'm in for at least a couple shows. 

I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'm perfectly content with an Axl and friends lineup for the $75-$100 range; of course I'd pay a lot more to see the classic guys, but I'm not going in to that Police/Van Halen/Eagles reunion price range.

I think tickets are expensives enough, no need to charge more because some old friends decides to play together again.

You guys are being naive if you hope they won't be expensive...

Of course tickets will be expensive... and they should be !

There is nothing wrong with them getting whatever they can for tickets... (if it happens)

I was wondering about why Izzy , Steven and Matt are out of the meeting.

Not hoping, just stating plainly what/how much I'd pay or not pay for.  Having seen both classic and post-classic lineups, I already know that for me one isn't worth 10 times more than the other.  If they can get people to show up for ridiculously obscene prices, good for them, but it won't be from me.  I've already seen them back in the day for $35, why would I pay 20-30 times that to see them now, will they be that much better?  Will they even be as good?  

In this hypothetical, Axl most likely doesn't want to tell Frank and Richard to take a hike.

Sure I am not telling you how to spend your money.

I wasn't fortunate enough to see them then, so I would go above and beyond, and obviously 20 years alter, you're not going tos ee anybody for 35 bux.

I have spent 150 bucks (something close to) to see Axl a few years ago, so seeing him with Slash and Duff , I'd have no issue with paying double or even triple for a great seat.

I?m under no delusions that tickets will be cheap.
Not a huge deal, but I?ve always felt the post Illusions GN?R shows were on the expensive side already, since it was Axl and 8 members I couldn?t give a shit less about.
Now I?d be paying to see Axl, Slash, Duff, and some others I couldn't give a shit less about. That?s an improvement, and worth some additional cash.
Just not the amount I always thought it would take to get tickets, most likely on the secondary market to see the classic lineup.
Paying huge money to see Fortus and Ferrer would feel like I was being duped. A true reunion would be far easier to justify.
I?m not cheap. It?s not even so much the amount. It?s about not wanting to feel like I?m being swindled.
And by the sounds of it, it?s exactly what would be happening. They would be counting on the idea that as long as they have Axl and Slash on stage together, that would be enough to bill it as something it isn?t to the general public. We?ll pay full price for an inferior product.

There?s far worse problems to have, especially as a GN?R fan, but it?s just odd they can?t seem to ever get out of their own way, and do anything right in the past 20 something years. It would still be a massive improvement and I?m sure a great show, but having Izzy involved would be fucking aces.

I agree... I don't care about the drummer, even though I'd prefer Matt or Steven over Frank , for obvious reasons, they played the songs.

I also really hope Izzy makes it our for this if it goes down.

I was blasting 14 years TODAY on my way to work !

I remember $15-$35 Tickets, I also remember $1 a gallon gasoline.  :hihi:

There's just no way they'll get reputable promoters or be able to market those big time prices if the endeavor requires reliance on Izzy and Steve.  I love those guys and would of course rather see a show with them involved but the reality is that Izzy is a risk to disappear without explanation at any moment and as for Steve.. what more is there to say about him...

So to paraphrase the dad in Saturday Night Fever, these days $500 won't even buy you $35. 

Just bring Matt and Steven. If Steven falls off the Wagon Matt can handle it all. Bring Izzy and Gilby for the same reasons.

Right, and hand everyone a Playbill the night of the show with a note inside that says the understudy is performing tonight. 

Matt is the clear cut winner in this race to me, he can handle all the material 9 I am sure he could dot he CD songs easy too), reliable- no personal or chemical dependency issues, and always good for a quote!

I think the thought is Axl wouldn't want to sack guys who have been with him such as Frank and Richard. Which could put the older drummers on the outs.

On a holiday a permanent vacation I'm livin on a cigarette with wine.  I'm never alone cause I got myself Yes I entertain myself all of the time.❤️❤️❤️

I would still like to see Richard and Frank play with the old guys. Richard and Slash might make a really sick combo.

Don?t get me wrong, I would love to see the AFD 5, but I can see, at least with Steven, it?s a pure business risk decision.  What?s the upside with Steven there?  Are they going to be able to sell more tickets because of him?  Maybe?but does a marginal increase in ticket sales offset the obvious risks???  IMO, the potential negatives outweigh the positives, so I wouldn?t hold it against Axl and co. if they decide he?s just not worth the risk.  Obviously, you can?t take all risk out of a reunion.  But removing Steven (or limiting his involvement to a couple shows) takes away a big one.

I don?t think they wouldn?t offer it to Izzy?I just think he may have his own reasons for not wanting to do a full tour.  Also, I don?t think it?s Richard or Izzy.  They have been going with a 3 guitar approach for a while now.  I think Izzy and Richard could co-exist.

I assume they're writting the press release now and assuming with quotes from Axl and Slash and what the plan is. My guess is as far as the lineup it would be Axl, Slash, Duff and Frank and 4tus with special guests from the appetite and illusion era  something like that. Personaly hope it's orignial 5 with Frank and 4tus to be available in Izzy and Adler can't hang.  

Keith Richards has done enough drugs to kill everyone in GN?R 10 times over, and could die any day now of old age.
The Rolling Stones still trot him out there, because he (along with Mick and the gang) is the Rolling Stones.

Could Adler overdose and die onstage?
Sure, I guess that?s a possibility, but as Lt. Vincent Hanna would say, you can get killed walking your doggie.

Yeah I mean.. Izzy is tight with all three of the others. I don't think they would do this without asking him if he wants to join....

I don't think there's any doubt he was asked. Very likely he turned it down but said he'd do some shows. As far as Adler and Sorum. No question Adler will do it and probably sorum. If either isn't the drummer than it's a matter of they weren't invited...  which is kind of F'd up for Adler.  Unless he pissed off Duff so much when they played together a few years ago and Alder was a mess that Duff said he doesn't want him. Very possible

Let me pose a question to all in this forum lets and this is in regards to the drummer position only if a reunion does happen is everyone just wanting to hear the old band play the old songs again or would you possibly like to hear the guys like slash and duff playing some of the chi dem stuff which in that case your best bet would be frank because he has played all the songs AFD, UYI and Chin Dem. Personally speaking id like to hear those guys play on those newer songs to see how they sound on them songs like Better or Catcher or Sorry and can you imagine slash working that solo in This I Love i think would be pretty cool

If Slash can play Better why can't Steven or Matt? 

Does Keith Richards play drums for the Stones?  Keith and Mick are the Stones, much like Axl and Slash are Guns.  It's a hard truth, but typically the drummer is the least important (and most replaceable) band member.  By not having Steven there (or only for a limited amount of shows) does not devalue the reunion (at least for me).

I think Izzy is more of a risk than Adler.  Adler is a risk to relapse but he's not a risk to quit and he's not a risk to dog it when he does show up.  And even if he relapses, replacing him with Matt is seamless.  Izzy walked out on Guns right before a major tour (was mailing it in right up until he did quit), walked out on his own band (JuJu Hounds), walked out when VR was getting started and, per Axl, was not reliable with his recent appearances with the new lineup.  

You could say replacing Izzy mid-tour with Gilby would be just as simple, but 1 - I'm not so sure about that, and 2 - losing Izzy mid-tour would be a big loss because, compared to Adler, having Izzy on board is a much bigger draw for selling this reunion.  If Izzy is in and then suddenly isn't, that's a big blow, especially to those fans who would have already bought tickets, who will be pissed.  

LGD, I know you're being facetious with the Keith comparison, that's nuts, I don't care how many drugs that guy has done, since James Brown's death, he holds the throne for hardest working man in show business.  

I didn't realize this.  Where did Axl talk about this?

Very good points.

Although I didn't know that about him blowing off Axl lately.  I did wonder why he was at all those 2006 shows, then none after that.

Is that why?

I picked that up from Axl's Del James interview in 2009:

The Izzy bit was fun -- and also fun because we didn't have to rely on him in any way, which is how he prefers things and works better for everyone. That said, you never knew if Izzy would be there or not or if he'd remember the song or decide to leave early. It didn't cause any problems, because we were doing our show regardless and didn't have to depend on anything, but it did open everyone's eyes a bit and blow minds.

Just a FYI, Izzy played with GN'R after that 2006 tour, in 2012.



/jarmo

If Vikki Hamilton says it's not happening, then it looks like its off....maybe we can get a former doorman from the whiskey to confirm this? The hot dog guy at pinky's probably has some good intel too.  :hihi:

I'm waiting to see who chimes in next.

Any guesses? :D

Axl, hopefully.

Yep, November 23rd. I was there.

Alice Cooper

Slashs friends uncle's friends college roommate

Slash said this about Future Plans- In a recent interview.

6) What does future hold for Slash ft. Myles Kennedy and The Conspirators?

I'm very excited to go out on this next leg, which is the last leg of the "World On Fire" tour with MTV Indies Xtreme, and then going back into the studio and doing the next album and hitting the road after that

Thats a reason I have been saying there wont even be close to any reunion until 2017..

So what about 2016?

Guess we will have to wait and see  : ok:

What would people like more?

1) A reunion in 2017, with no official announcement regarding it until 2017

2) A reunion in 2017, with a official announcement regarding it, as soon as possible.  With a total hype machine in full effect until the first concert


Pick 2 for me

well 2 would be more fun. my dad bought me some games for xmas in 98. parasite eve and kartia for ps1. i chose them, so i knew what they were. he hid them under his mattress. dont mess with them. if you do and i find out, you cant have them. every day after elementary school when he was at work, i peeked. i picked them up, looked them over, imagined what they might be like... i was dying to play them. then i put them back. it was a fun experience, i knew it was coming and when it did, that christmas, boy was it awesome.

but something like a reunion or album is kind of different. things can and do go wrong all the time with stuff like that. so i can see not wanting to let anyone down.

Look it

https://www.facebook.com/Guns-N-Roses-Reunion-2016-932287826849436/

Somebody made a Facebook page. That must be a sign!


/jarmo

If a Facebook is made--



(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/53586322.jpg)

 :o

Hahaha. That just totally made my day.  :D

And let's not forget, he said that to Tone Loc.   :hihi:

This page is a official ?

A new song will be posted today...  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

 https://www.facebook.com/Guns-N-Roses-Reunion-2016-932287826849436 (https://www.facebook.com/Guns-N-Roses-Reunion-2016-932287826849436)

Sigh.... Don't be so gullible, McFly.

That page doesn't even look official.  It looks like shit.

Whoever this guy is that's writing all that stuff claims to know a lot....

I dont believe it till I see it on wikipedia :P

Yes and new album. Sounds total horseshit. All the rest is stuff that's already out there...  and just guessed Duff was the cataylist to start conversations.  Very well could be true

Well if we don't get a new song today that will immedietaly destroy his credibility and then people won't care what is posted there so lets see what happens which i think we all know what will happen.


The new song will be: Crash Diet lol

There is a clip on the FB right now  :rofl:

It does sound like Axl probably from 25-30 years ago

Is it possible you made that page?



/jarmo

Who is Vicky Hamilton?  Is she someone who we should take seriously? 

She worked for the band for a short while before they got popular....




/jarmo

The song he put wasn't "new" it was Jackie Chan 8)

Not official.

She's like that one dude I refuse to mention his name from mygnr. She worked with gnr is the early days, therefore they are insiders to what's truly useless information. They're both in the documentary

It does. Proof (there is many) that Axl can still sing a really good song. Or atleast when this was recorded about 10-14 years ago

She claimed to be their manager in the early days. She is a very bitter person who wrote a book. My guess is she wanted to get her name out there to promote her book. I'm not much of a fan of hers from what I've seen in unofficial documentaries that have included her.

Del james--
Vicki Hamilton was around for like a few months when it was inevitable that GN'R were going to get signed anyway and she has milked that into a career. It's not like she got let go for being too good of a manager or too valuable of an asset!

Thanks, folks.  The name didn't ring any bells with me.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rumor-guns-n-roses-reunion-wont-be-all-original-members/

Last update on GNR facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/gunsnroses/photos/a.355783028068.156550.10901008068/10153741390523069/?type=3&theater

Guess there were no pics of wacky tattoos in the inbox today.

It's Monday.

I think the hashtag #TatTuesday kinda gives you a clue why there was no GN'R tattoo pic today...... Or should i explain it? :D



/jarmo

But the biggest clue must be that Jarmo is not deleting all these topics about a reunion in the main GN'R section :nervous: :confused:

[/sarcasm]

Ok lets play the game a little more. What do guys expect would happen to the CD songs... would we still hear them live? The naive way of seeing it would be "of course no, because Slash would not want to play someone else's solos". But then again, I have always thought of how those songs would sound with Slash (or with two guitarists anyway), and it would be interesting to hear some of the songs played by a lineup that has been in the rumours mill lately. And we know that Duff already knows how to play some of them : ok:

Scott has talked again about the reunion rumours:

"I?m sure that there have been conversations with the guys, the [former] Guns N? Roses players, and Axl, because I?ve heard from several informants that they were planning a reunion tour."

http://www.alternativenation.net/scott-weiland-gnr-reunion-album-how-stp-could-create-new-memories/ (http://www.alternativenation.net/scott-weiland-gnr-reunion-album-how-stp-could-create-new-memories/)

Ah, my favorite clickbait sight continues to misinform the world.

So you guys are going to have to keep waiting for my thoughts on Meatloaf, Bob Seger and The Boss. More important stuff keeps coming up. Like the Guns N' Roses reunion, which is probably the most important thing ever.


Or not. It?s widely known that Guns N' Roses are my favorite band ever. When I woke up the other morning, I had about 16 texts telling me that the last truly great rock & roll band were getting back together.

Except, it?s not actually a reunion. Duff and Slash will (allegedly) be rejoining Axl, Dizzy and whoever is standing in for Steven/Matt and Izzy/Gilby. A reunion in my mind, has to include all five of the original Appetite-era boys. Even if it can?t get that, it helps to include the two hired guns that even my grandmother has heard of, not whoever Axl has conned into putting up with his shit this week.

Guns N' Roses were the last truly great rock & roll band. Who else has come along since that has even come close?

Nirvana? Please. I?m endlessly grateful to Nirvana for making me aware that punk rock exists. As a cultural phenomenon, they have value. As a band, they were lackluster.

 

The White Stripes? Shut the hell up, you normie twat.

Few albums are 100 percent solid from start to finish, but Appetite for Destruction is one of those records. There?s not a dull moment on the entire record, from the echo-ed out intro to ?Welcome to the Jungle? (one of the few overplayed songs that never gets old) to the soulful strains of Axl fucking some broad in the studio on ?Rocket Queen.?

I can only think of a couple more records with the kind of batting average Appetite has. Even those records that are 100 percent solid from start to finish (Boston?s self-titled debut and ...And Out Come the Wolves come to mind) still aren?t as good, pound for pound, as that first effort from Axl and the boys.

This isn?t a Guns N' Roses reunion. It?s just the latest chapter in Axl Rose?s solo career.
People will be trash-talking the Use Your Illusion twins for the rest of time, but I think they age like a fine wine. Some of the band?s best work appears on Use Your Illusion I. I?m talking about ?Dust ?N Bones,? ?Bad Obsession? and ?Garden of Eden.? Use Your Illusion II is no slouch, either with ?Shotgun Blues,? ?Get In the Ring? and ?You Could Be Mine.?

 
The band failed on the Illusions only where their reach exceeded their grasp. ?My World? made no sense in 1991, but sounds like a bizarre Nine Inch Nails outtake today. ?November Rain? is a misguided attempt at Queen worship. Both versions of ?Don?t Cry? are fine, but did we really need both? And the less said about flying dolphins the better.

"The Spaghetti Incident?? followed, the first effort with Gilby Clarke. It?s good, but not great. The first time I ever heard songs by Fear, The Misfits, The Stooges, The Dead Boys and The New York Dolls was on there, but it?s hard to deny that something significant was missing by this point.

That something was the dope, booze and floozy-fueled magic that propelled the first record. There?s something about the low life, even the bits of it the boys took with them to the top, that was necessary. Something that only the original members of Guns N Roses have to offer the world. It?s not even really about the songs. It?s about the guys playing them, and the chemistry they have with each other.

So Axl can hire people to play the notes. And he can re-hire some of the original Gunners (two of the most important, in fact) to spice things up and get the ball rolling in a more exciting direction. But this isn?t a Guns N' Roses reunion. It?s just the latest chapter in Axl Rose?s solo career. It might be the best thing they?ve done in the last 25 years, and that?s not nothing. But it?s also not enough to get me all that fired up


http://www.laweekly.com/music/unpopular-opinion-i-dont-care-about-guns-n-roses-reuniting-6296602

Slash says:

"2016 will be a big year !!!!!!!"   :rofl: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :beer:

http://www.alternativenation.net/slash-hints-at-guns-n-roses-reunion-tour/

Why Alternative Nation feels the need to post a fake picture of Axl and Slash when there are tons of real ones?

Hahaha.  Sort of weird.

But, also to sort of prepare people for the here and now.  Can't run some photo of them form 1991, cause that ain't what you are getting.

I've been wondering how it goes for that guy that has not paid attention to Axl in forever.  He hears about this and calls up some more recent Youtube clips of him singing.

Probably copyright.  Wouldn't be a smart move to use images for commercial that aren't properly accounted for, best bet create your own  ;)

Alternative nation is a crappy clickbait website with no integrity that likes to stir shit up.  That's why!!!

But what is the actual law as far as likeness or image is concerned?

Honest question if anyone has the answer.

Seems weird to use a clearly photoshopped image. 

That seems like an area best avoided as part of a "slippery slope" type argument.

It's quite amazing how many articles on the same subject that site has managed to post in just a few months.

And in reality, we still know as much as we did back then!  :hihi:

Well, I guess now we know what Nikki Sixx thinks... Which obviously is important to know. ;)


/jarmo

And don't forget Scott Weiland.....and rando friend of Duffs wife!! :p

Can't wait for a reunion, it's kinda to weird, I guess they will dig up Ole's body!?

:Gasp: How dare you insinuate that my favorite lineup wasn't "original" I don't care what is actual history, I want my delusions, myths, and fairy tales.  :crying:

 :hihi:

What, you don't think she came off like a sharp tack?

It is a joke how little credibility all these people in know have.

However.   I have never seen anything like this.  I. Regards to very specific rumors.   With especially nothing being shot down from the official gnr camp.   Hell duff and slash in recent years have tried to stay away from. Any rumours     Nothing being shot down

I do hope.   If something is anounced.   They give all us fans notice.  

I have to get 2016 vacation in by feb.   let's have something by then !!    Either way

Call me selfish.   But I am a die hard gnr fan that will travel almost any place to see the band.  Give me a time and date please.  

Nothing last min!!

If this happened, it would be a big deal.

I would have to think there would be lead time given.

I'm surprised Mick Wall hasn't weighed in and commented.

I'm tempted to hold a sweepstake to guess who will crawl out from under a rock and chime in next.

Any guesses?

Same here.

I would figure the most dangerous place on earth is between Mick Wall and a microphone if the topic is Axl Rose.

It's really insane-so far this year you've got Goldstein,Sebastian Bach, Jessie Hughes, Marc Canter, Nikki Sixx, Eddie Trunk, Mitch Lafon, Vicki Hamilton, Corey Taylor, Brandy Glanville, and more than a dozen random reporters, journalists, promoters and supposed informants all throwing in their 2 cents.

Did I miss anybody? Who is next?

Yep

It seems everyone I think

Axl would never want to have a beer with is commenting on this

For a guy that keeps a tighter circle than I do.  I would just like to heR from someone from there.

I'm sure announcements will come in due time.

All we need is just a little ________

i thought it was weird that weiland claimed to have gnr informants. why would he be playing gnr espionage, and if he did know something and knew it was under wraps, why would he tell everyone? does he have something against them or something? seems like a dick move.

Well Slash has wrapped up his tour in Europe so hopefully if this is happening we will get an announcement prior to Christmas!

Also with regards to above Fred Durst mentioned he'd been involved in a meeting with Axl & Slash at this years Reading festival. Is Durst involved with a label?

Oh yeah.
It's kinda funny how much you can write about so little.




/jarmo

Nah I bet the announcement will be today.

This.  ;D

DJ and Fred Durst...I'm waiting for Tracey and Roberta to chime in.   :hihi:

If this doesn't pan out , I hope all these evil people apologize to everybody for spreading false hope and bs rumors!

No, many already know it's bullshit. Nothings really "true" or accurate until gnr announces it.

Thanks for letting us know.

And even then...

If this is all bullshit, you are going to see some dark times around here.  And downright apocalypse on the other boards.

Then why would they need to apologize? As of right now, it shouldn't be taken seriously until a announcement of what's happening.

Oh, they don't.  But I'm just talking about how its going to go down.

On the other boards, Axl will take a beating.  A reunion is pretty much all they care about.  And he will be seen as the bad guy, I suspect.

On this board, while a lot of us would like a reunion, we could also roll with a new album from a replacement line-up.  And we all see how that has been coming along.

Plus ?a change, plus c'est la m?me chose.

Exactly.

I guess my sarcasm didn't come across.

I have a feeling that something will be announced today!

Not yet.....

that's the problem. Since some guys decided to make some rumors, it's going to come back and hit Axl, kinda forcing him to reunite. Fans never care for what Axl wants, all we do is complain. Ever thought maybe Axl doesn't want to reunite? Just maybe?

If he does, I can't wait!! But I could go either way.  :peace:

All very true.

But then where is the wisdom in letting this train get rolling down the tracks if he has no interest?  What's the upside of that "plan"?

That is where fans get frustrated with him, I think.  So when he emerges from wherever he's been hiding out, with beefs about what others said and what expectations were fostered he didn't want fostered, then, you have a problem. 

Its exactly how this is going to play out if this doesn't happen.  His uber defenders will just go hoarse telling us that since he never said anything, he does not owe anyone anything.  True?  Yeah, somewhat.

But then other fans will ask what the hell he thought he was gaining putting himself in that situation and that some of the responsibility for his current situation is on him.

That's where the fights between fans start.

Axl Rose , love him or hate


If all these rumors about the meeting, are actually false , Axl Rose will be crucified by all fans

The only hope is that no one has denied the rumors.

Yes. Yeah

I don?t think fans will be against a new album. The thing is we don?t have rumors about CD II. The rumors are going into another direction. We don?t even have people like Baz saying that he has heard the new album and sounds great.  All we have is that BBF and DJ left. And maybe Tommy as well. On top of that Richard is dealing with personal issues and Dizzy is on tour with his other band. So far it doesn?t sound promising.

No he won't be crucified by "all fans"  ::)

I support whatever GNR does next.

Really a Black Friday sale? 

I'm in the same spot.

You pretty much have to root for this reunion tour because the alternative sure as shit seems to be nothing.  No talk of any progress on this new album, and not even a band right now.

Something > Nothing

They won't apologize for spreading them any more than anybody here (or elsewhere) will apologize for believing them and repeating them, which helps spread them.

It's already tomorrow in some parts of the world.



/jarmo

Yep. No one wants to hear the next album more than me, but if my options are a reunion tour or nothing, of course I'll psych myself up for a reunion tour.

Thing is, once those two hours are over, all we'll have are memories of the show, however fun it may be.  An album with 12-14 new tracks would be timeless.  But I digress...

Love or *hate for no reason  :smoking: Don't worry, I'm joking

And Richard saying the album is directed for 2016. That's doesn't really mean much even if Axl said it, a release date will tell.

Does anyone really believe there will be an announcement regarding 2016 either way by the turn of the year?

I certainly don't.

If there is still no word by March... then the levels of discontent will be off the Richter scale.  :D

Seems like a pretty big longshot to expect them to make some big announcement on a holiday weekend.

A sentiment we can probably bookmark, for when we are having this same exact conversation approximately a month from now.

At least well have our 'Welcome To The Jingle' shirts to tide us over then, though.

I fear the day TB/Axl will release an official documentary and a ton of teenage girls will start like gnr. Kinda like what happen with "straight outta of Compton".

Yep.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

For fans the day never ends

Maybe they will make an announcement about a new tattoo...  ;D

To much silence for nothing. Something will happen. Let?s enjoy the end of 2015 and wait for news in 2016  :peace:

'' I Want Believe ''

FOX MULDER

Old logo used by the former band is on the official Guns N' Roses site, logos had been abandoned in 2007 after an intense legal battle between Axl Rose and Slash, the band's trademark holders are Axl , Duff and Slash. Coincidence ?

You can't say this is proof for a reunion

It's great proof that they are all friends :)

Ultimate Classic Rock has made a "Reunion meter"  :hihi:


Currently we're at code yellow

(http://ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2015/11/Guns-N-Roses.jpeg)

Exactly why i posted the topic.

My original comment was "tongue in cheek"... but its definitely a step in the right direction as far as a thawing of the icy relationship..and the fans are the big winners if more things can get done.

Lets take reunion off the table for a second... and say that now that these guys are friendly.. whats stopping a few releases now of some old shows on blue ray from the UYI tour?  ;)

Did anyone ask Fernando when he was last here whether any of this was possible in the future? As a fan of those line ups... id kill for a blue ray release of one of those shows.  :D

This Band Is Unique

 :hihi:

I feel that the fact that Duff is included in most of GNR's facebook posts as a clear indication that at least he's in.

From 2012

 : ok:

We have also learnt your the biggest tosser on this forum :hihi: :hihi:

Opinions vary, I have a different take there and could post a list of the people I consider total tossers and wastes of oxygen but it's best left unsaid.  :-*

On topic as I said before, wonder who is going to be the next oh so important party to make their irreplaceable comments and throw their meaningless two cents in?

Where is Mick Wall these days?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Hahahaha. So funny! Please! Hahahahaha

Your lame attempts at insults aimed at me? How do you come up with this stuff?
And what have I done to you to deserve all this attention from you?

By the way, I don't think there can be anything between us. Sorry.

But your a funny guy, you're jokes are so funny!

Thanks for the laughs. Hahahahahahaha



I think you're one of those cool kids who come here to start shit, looking to get banned so you can run over to some other site and tell all the other cool kids what a cool thing you did and got banned. You really are a comedian aren't you? Hahahahahaha

By the way. People laughing at you, isn't the same as laughing with you.



/jarmo

look out jarmo. i think this guy wants to toss your salad, or wants you to toss his. you did the right thing by letting him know you werent interested right off the bat.

Does anyone else think the idea of a "hybrid" line up sounds awesome?? Frank Ferrer is a beast!

There's something special about people who come here looking to get banned so they can keep talking about me on other sites...



/jarmo

Yeah. I like him better than brain, I think he is the best drummer. And fortus is great.

Frank is probably the most uninteresting and boring gnr member ever.

Why the Frank hate???

I think he is a very good drummer.

I am cool with it.. Nothing against Frank and Richard.. they just haven't contributed much to the GNR catalog. That's where any "hate" comes from.

I would prefer Izzy and Steve or Matt... but if we can't have them... they are fine substitutes.

Cause i find him boring and uninteresting. Am i allowed to?

These things are really important. They really matter when a drummer plays on an album or during a show. :D

But it's nice to know you have nothing bad to say about his playing. Be careful, somebody might confuse you for a fanboy.  :o



/jarmo

It doesnt matter wether he sits behind a drumset or behind the counter. Boring is boring, mr. "I need to comment on anything thats slightly non-positive".

Just commenting on your boring and unoriginal posts. :)

What's wrong? I'm not allowed to reply to your posts?
Give me some credit, I allowed your boring and uninteresting opinion to stay Mr "Boring and Unoriginal 2015".



/jarmo

Yeah totally. Frank & Fortus are my fav from the new era. Would be awesome if they where included if indeed the rumoured 2016 line up turns out to be true

At least i dont look like a hobbit with down sydrome

Good for you.

I tend to not look at men that way, but that's just me. :)

Also, if you're talking about me, I'm flattered that you know what I look like.  :-[


Didn't take you long to go for the supposed insults. Kinda proves my point. You're boring and unoriginal.  :)
Pretty ironic.



/jarmo

If you say so, nerd.

Nerd.  :hihi:

Boring and unoriginal indeed.

If you wanna keep posting these love letters, please send me a PM. I'm sure the rest of the world couldn't care less about all this crap. Thanks. : ok:



/jarmo

Youre very predictable.
besides that youre a joke and seem to be a loser with funny looks

Haha YOU are the Joke here, remember-we are laughing at you, not with you.  :hihi:

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTb1yWZYe3I8MEwRjwkArnDO2Mfuw0Qs12hMnlHb9ladvwHgc26DA)

Good for you

Yes yes, I won't deny any of that!
I'm glad your definition of a joke and a loser fits me. I hope all losers like me have similar experiences in life.  I can only image what the cool kids have....



But this site isn't about me. So motherfucker please, take it to PMs.
 :-*




/jarmo

Frank's the best drummer GNR ever had the guy has very good soul funk and technique.  He can play the whole catalogue.  In regards to who's in or out will see will all see.   The only 3 guys that were original from 92 on were duff slash and Axl.  I don't know why anyone's bitching. If that era never broke up  Steven would not  be behind the kit anyway.  If  slash is back  in the mix I don't think they need a 3rd guitarist  him and Richard have enough chops.  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1OhIurbrdpI  Just listen to the man shed

Frank is more than good enough +he's cool.

Anyone feeling the urge for a chillpill in here?  :hihi:
In you're defence Brownstone, Gn'R summon my inner child sometimes too  : ok:

Frank's a fine drummer - does the job well enough, no complaints about that at all.

He's boring?  I'm not really sure what you mean by that.  I mean, I know Guns N' Roses have this whole mythos about how wild and "dangerous" they were back in the day.  But mostly that seems to boil down to a bunch of young men behaving, frankly, like complete arseholes (see most of the items on that Rolling Stone list in the other thread).  People laud them for stuff in the late 80s and early 90s that, if you saw a bunch of dudes doing the same things out on the town on a Saturday night, you'd think "What a bunch of pricks."   Frank Ferrer is almost fifty years old - if he carried on like that, it'd be pathetic.

The music's the thing. 

Izzy isn't into big tours, Adler is a train-wreck and Sorum Ive never been a big fan of his drumming style, , so Ferrer and Fortus with Slash, Axl and Duff makes perfect sense to me if it ever happens.

Who the fuck is this guy? ^^^

Frank and/or Jarmo have never done me wrong!  What have you ever done for GN'R? :rofl:

Can these posts be removed and this chap banned?

i think thats what he wants. gives him street cred on the other boards lol. i dont know why he cares so much about what jarmo looks like, and the fact that hes even gone as far as to look up pictures of him is pretty damn creepy.

whats with all these male jarmo stalkers coming out of the woodwork all of a sudden? they should forget about him and just hook up with eachother instead. at least they already have a common interest. they can get married in jarmo masks and play november rain at their wedding.

Haha and toss each other's salads nonstop. I think you have come up with the solution for people like Cherry Garcia and xbrownstonex   :hihi:

It's odd behavior to be sure  :nervous:

Then give him that.

Keeping them here, and others like 'em, is basically saying to us that we have to endure that shit that they write. Would sooner see them outta here, than wade through reams of bile in search of something worth reading.

I get your reasons to not oblige them Jarmo, but please think of how this is spoils things for your more reasoned readers.... ;)

Thanks for the feedback. :)

Will do!



/jarmo

I would put it down to jealousy. Great thing you run here & we all know that the GN'R camp obviously appreciate it.

wtf was that

xBrownstonex is attempting to emulate D-X, but he fails miserably.

Seems like most UK festivals (Reading, Leeds, Glastonbury...) are now rumored to feature GN'R as a headliner.

All this without a word from the band.  :hihi:




/jarmo

Guns N' Roses tipped for Reading Festival headline slot

By Craig_Jones | Posted: November 30, 2015

First Reading 2016 acts set to be announced

The first announcements for this next year's Reading and Leeds Festivals will be made this week. Craig Jones writes for What's On.

Guns N' Roses, who are rumoured to be reforming, are being backed by the bookies to take one of the headline slots.


This year the events, which takes place simultaneously in the two cities, were headlined by The Libertines, Metallica and Mumford and Sons.

For further details visit www.readingfestival.com.

Read more: www.bristolpost.co.uk/Guns-N-Roses-tipped-Reading-Festival-headline/story-28267771-detail/story.html#ixzz3szWMYc79
Follow us: @bristolpost on Twitter | bristolpost on Facebook

Here's another one: http://www.itv.com/news/west/update/2015-11-30/guns-nroses-for-glastonbury/




/jarmo

Ok, when are we supposed to have confirmation?  ??? Anyway IF there is a reunion I?d rather see them on their own, just a GN?R show and another band as a opening act.

You dont need a word from the band if promoters seem to know shit.

I really couldn't imagine them doing Reading & Leeds with the shit Axl has had to put up with there in the past. If they do the UK, of course if they are back together, then i'd bet on Isle Of White or BST in Hyde Park if its a festival slot. Isle of white are not doing day tickets this year, so they obviously feel the Headliners are gonna be enough pull.

Yeah. Seems like some people forgot about that.
But then again, the band did play festivals after that and they went fine. :)



/jarmo

I'm hoping someone can clarify this as i m not exactly how tours can get booked but is it possible that the promoters of these shows can  hold a spot for a band like GNR in case they do reform then they can say ok they are in then in a few months if they don't they can just go with more assured bands for these shows?

Could be tricky if some band knows they are being held onto as a back-up Plan B.

Ultimately though, I don't know how many bands would turn down a high profile slot at a high profile festival because their feelings got hurt.

Well, actually, there is one that would, but we are sort of hoping they are Plan A here.

It almost feels like your in vegas with these bookies or promoters they are putting their money down on hopes that GNR is going to be on the bill and if they don't then they will be left scrambling to find bands because im sure bands typically no way in advance what their tour plans are going to be and you wonder how much these promoters do know and who their alleged sources would be.

It all depends on the festivals I suppose.

I remember the 2006 edition of Rock Am Ring in Germany, GN'R played a late set. They were booked to play after midnight. It doesn't seem like a "normal" thing for a festival to book a band that is scheduled for a late show like that, so maybe they had three headliners, and then added GN'R to the bill?

Obviously, sometimes you can't do this if you have a curfew. And I suspect some bands/artists might get booked to be the headliner, so then changing that might not be possible.

Imagine if you're told you're the last band of the festival, only to realize another band has been added to the bill. It might cause some issues...




/jarmo

The clarification I want is about reunion itself. We don?t even have confirmation that the band has decided to reunite. How do we know that Axl isn?t working on CDII with another new band? I think it?s highly unlikely but I don?t rule anything out. Yet there are rumors about the old band performing in festivals in the UK.

You can't always get what you want (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM_p1Az05Jo)....




/jarmo

Ya know i gotta give the powers that be whomever that may be for being able to keep things so tight lipped. Whether a reunion does or doesn't happen the fact that nobody outside of Vicky Hamilton who shot this whole thing down. we all look at it as like why don't they come out and say something pro or against reunion that all your getting is rumors of alleged concerts they are doing. My guess is that the only people who know exactly what is going on is obviously Axl and i guess what people refer to as Team Brazil on here thats it is my guess. Can someone get the guys from Anonymous on the line to see if they can hack into Axl's email lol jk of course

That?s one of my favorite RS songs. Thank you!  :-*

De nada. Great song and a title to take into consideration.



/jarmo

Do you ever consider Axl miht be trying to talk himself into it?

Like, everyone else is down, and they are just waiting for him to sign on?

Because, honestly, I think the biggest problem with all this would be how Axl addresses the past 15 years. 

No matter how nicely the phrasing, he's going to get many a variation on "So, does it feel better to be back with the real band?"

Now I know, I know.  We have people that object STRENUOUSLY to such talk.  But I think it foolish to think that would not be asked of him.

How does he react?  Laugh it off?  Flip the fuck out?  Refuse all interview requests because he does not want to address any of it?

My money would be on Option C in that scenario.  If all this comes off, I still don't see Axl suddenly becoming accessible.   

I have never been there, but if im not mistaken Rock am Ring has always their last band to play after midnight.

I remember watching thier live stream and they had Rammstein in the evening and after them they had Them Crooked Vultures to close the festival, they started after midnight and played for 1,5 hours.

Fun fact, the festival is held inside of the Formula 1 circuit Nurburgring, The horizontally long building next to the stage is the pitlane building.

Maybe. I just remember when GN'R was announced in 2006 they specifically mentioned the later show time.



/jarmo

Couldn't Axl just say it was just the right time things came together or i could picture axl refering to just "fate" determined it i don't know if we will get a full on explanation as to why he finally decided to but keep it simple no reason to expand on it because in the end won't most people be content with the fact that they are back in the band.

Option D. Axl will never please some.

 ;D



/jarmo

Hopefully now that Slash's tour is over and the Holiday weekend has passed, we'll hear something official about 2016 soon.  Be it about a reunion tour, new album...Or the less likely yet totally mind blowing BOTH answer.

That's probably the spin I would put on it, in his spot.

I'm just wondering if people were to really press him on why he had Slash sentenced to death for all those years, but now its all good in the hood.

Or if they press him on asking if a reunion is an admission of failure of sorts, and proof the replacement line-up did not work.

How does that go?

In a perfect world, I would hope Axl can laugh that sort of talk off.  Perhaps deflect it somewhat, and try and steer it back to the fact things are good now.

Most interviews are pre-scripted these days and the interviewee is aware of what will be asked beforehand.. so id expect Axl (if he ever gives another interview) to be on point with this.

Axl talks in circles anyway, half the things he says are very roundabout... its like he speaks in code half the time.  ;)

It may be your perception that he "talks in circles" - I have a different opinion, you can't blame him for being cautious with media/press.

LOL @"speaking in code"

If it happens. Yes, he could.

People think it's all "Axl this, Axl that". It's not only about him.
Some of the others basically spent years talking about how it was impossible to work with Axl....



/jarmo

LOL at the "revelation" that you have a different opinion.

Shocking stuff that.  :o

You answered the question on the second line buddy.

The reason its "always about Axl", is because he rarely speaks. Why does it have to be such a negative thing that people are interested in hearing from him?

Yeah, that's why I never understood all this desire for his autobiography.  Imagine trying to make sense of that.

As for doing press, I think one of the best features of any sort of reunion is that Slash and Duff are willing to do some press.  Spares Axl doing something he hates.

So when you ask why there are no interviews, we don't have be told Axl just gave that interview to Billboard.  In the spring.  Of 2009.

I'm sure he is cautious with the press/media when he talks or communicates with such in an insidious and calculated effort to frustrate and confuse you. It's a plot  :hihi:

Nice spin.

Keep waving those pom poms darling.  :-*

Glad im not the only one who thinks he speaks in half circles... and trying to figure out what he's saying half the time. It's like he's so damn guarded that he feels he needs to not be specific about whatever it is hes saying that most of the time its just a big spiel that never gets to the end point.

The one thing that annoys me from those web chats in 2008 was that he was going to address the "mistruths" and get that "stuff out there"..and it never really happened. We still to this day dont have a proper explanation for The falling out from his side. We got Slash's take in his book, we got some of it from Duff in his book.. but the end game is this... its all about Axl because he rarely speaks, and when he does.. most people walk away thinking... "what did we get from that"???

At 52 years of age, you would think that hed have just put his version out there, and like most issues... that would have clarified things there and then.

But anyway.

No, I didn't answer the question.
You missed the point.

Some are going on about how Axl would handle a hypothetical interview asking him why he could reunite with those guys. The same could be said about them.
I'll explain it even more so you don't get confused about me talking in circles: If Axl can be asked "but you said ________, what changed?", so can the others.




/jarmo

The difference is.... the "others" have a history of speaking a lot more freely then Axl does. They give regular interviews. Axl doesnt.

That's why its a bigger issue with Axl.

Nobody missed anything.. except you mate.

edited to add:

Axl made some very strong statements about reunions in the past "not in this lifetime" etc... I dont remember Slash and Duff ever being that forecful when the question was posed to them, unless you can find me a quote...

So when Axl stays silent for so long, then when he does open his mouth u get such a strong statement, if that were to change, of course those factors will lead to him being the number one person the media and fans want to hear from. He was the face of the band... its not a difficult concept Jarmo.  ::)

Well...

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Guns-N-Roses-tipped-Reading-Festival-headline/story-28267771-detail/story.html

Funny how the original posts weren't about the number of interviews he gives: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=66533.msg1402929#msg1402929
It was about what he would answer or how he'd react to certain questions.

I pointed out that in that hypothetical scenario, he's not the only one who would have to explain what changed. It doesn't really matter how many interviews they've given.

Better luck next time, "pal".



/jarmo

Yeah, seems like the Isle of Lucy jazz-blues festival is the only one GN'R isn't rumored to headline!  :hihi:



/jarmo

Ok, we can go back to "what he would answer, and how he would react to certain questions if you like.

Axl hasnt got a good track record in answering questions by getting to the point in interviews. As explained before, even in the webchats he stated that there was a lot of "mistruths" out there by people who were seeking personal gain (or some bullshit to that effect).... there was some other roundabout shit spoken in that answer and we were told at some point in the future hed get his side of things out there. Ok.. we are 7 years down the track, we have had nothing, and to be fair, he didnt elaborate on when in the future hed tell his side...

either way... so far, we havent had a lot to go on when it comes to Axl's take on things. Because he doesnt give a lot of interviews. We know Slash and Duffs opinions on things better than that of Axl... thats the difference.

comprende.

Hey DX in regards to your feelings about the press pressing on axl as to why now i honestly don't think they would because an Axl interview is a rare thing i don't think anybody wants to push the wrong buttons they want to be on his good side

You mean go back to what I was talking about instead of what you think I wasn't talking about. Cool.



The online forum charts weren't real interviews. It was chaos.

I can't blame him for not being able to answer everything to your liking in those. Hell, some people here have a hard time focusing on one topic at a time!


I don't know how you managed to come to that conclusion about his so called track record. I've read, if not all, then most of, his latest interviews and I don't get that impression.




/jarmo

Those web chats were probably the most hes spoken in god knows how long though.

Ill meet you half way, those web chats were probably chaos from his point of view and obviously yours... and i agree..they weren't official interviews, but the upside was, that Axl was speaking personally to the fans and i thought some of his answers were skirting around things a lot when he could have been a bit more direct and honest. .... I have read those web chats many times and i thought there was some super dancing around certain topics.. for example.. someone asked him what his relationship was with former band members... his response was.. not sure i understand the question....

It was a fairly obvious question, as to Slash, and Duff especially.. he just didnt answer it. The webchats were full of stuff like that whenever anything came up regarding the older line ups.. it was sidestepping mumbo jumbo..

anyhoooooo... im not here to bash on Axl... i know thats what you think i am doing... so ill just say this..

People want to hear from Axl the most. He was the biggest star in that Line up. Slash ran a close second, but people want to hear from the front man, the guy that did it on his own for 20 years without the rest of them, like it or not... thats what EVERYONE wants. To hear from the Front man of Guns n Roses. We want his take on things If this happens.

Keep being whiny, bitter, negative and butthurt darling.  :-*

Well, it was in December 2008. He hasn't been all silent since... You're aware of that right?  ???
But before that, he gave that long Eddie Trunk interview in May 2006....



Well, some of the things he got back to later. Other stuff, he didn't answer. Can't answer everybody's questions....
I'll also add that if he had spent most of his time answering questions about the old band, we both know what would've happened.  :P




/jarmo

Sorry to disappoint anyone, but I'm headlining Reading with my kazoo. If you're lucky I might bust out an epic version of My World for an encore though.

I?m not so sure we will see a huge press conference and some kind of world wide event. That seems outdated these days. Most likely I expect a very long interview with Del James. They could put it in their oficial website for the whole world to see.

Or both Del James and Eddie Trunk could host some Youtube event with the whole band sitting around a table or sitting around a sofa mostly chatting and fooling around. It doesn?t have to be a CIA like interrogation  press conference.

On most things New Guns I'd agree with you. Axl tried the 'big reveal' at the VMAs. Never personally thought it was as bad a showing as the shit he got for it, but I guess a 6/10 performance when people haven't seen you in almost ten years could indeed have been a career killer.

I just think if the Axl/Slash/Duff thing proved true, its announcement would HAVE to be something with all 3 of them involved. Talk show appearance/performance maybe? Something prerecorded where they have a chance to retake and get it just right. That said they could just as well put up a youtube video with a clip montage of the old days, the three of them sat there "Hi I'm Axl/Slash/Duff, we're touring in 2016" *prolonged fart* and still sell out most of the venues in the world at the drop of a hat.

It'd be nice to see it done right though. Biggest event of 80s kids musical lifetimes. It deserves all the excitement that could come with it. But Super Bowl, anything like that, I'd say no. I still don't believe it's happening, but if it did, there first performance back after all these years should be something all the fans are proud to share around. Something they had a chance to get just right. Something prerecorded, basically.

I don?t see a Super Bowl event either. But if DX and others want answers from Axl about some controversial things. CIA like questions/interrogation is not gonna get it done. All we?re gonna get is a pissed off Axl and nobody wants that.

What we need if for Axl is to be relaxed, enjoying the moment. So creat a confortable environment, talk about whatever. Make sure he is having fun. That way he is gonna lower the guard. If he wants to tell jokes then let him. And one word brings another. Then next thing you know he is gonna give you the answers you?re looking for.

I just don't see why there'd have to be an interview at all. A press release sure, a video maybe. But assuming a reunion happened what is there to ask? Why now, why the bad blood went away? Given that we never really got a straight answer on why things disintegrated in the first place I don't see why anyone would expect those kind of answers. Get up, play and let the music do the talking.

Does anybody remember when Van Halen tried to reunite at the VMAs?
I'm sure that seemed like a great idea, on paper.



/jarmo

Well there are things I?d like to know. For example, was Duff the peacemaker?  What made them to change their minds?

I don?t think that Axl just woke up one day and he said "Hey I feel like doing a reunion tour now". Something like this it doesn?t happen overnight. And it?s not somthing that came out of nowhere.

I don?t mean they have to give us every detail. But I think as a band they have to give some information on the matter.

I still think the alltimer is the one where he explains how we came up with the lyrics to 'Oh My God'.

The guy pushing the shopping cart of cans down the street made more sense.

And then remember when they did reunite, did multiple tours and even released an album?

Pepperidge Farm remembers...

I guess so. Personally I'd say 'save that stuff for when it's all over and put it in your next biographies'. If a reunion happened, it just seems like it'd be such a fragile thing that could dissipate at any minute, the less said the better. Less said is less to argue about and fall out over.  ;)

Speaking of books though, mildly off topic, something I'd love to see someday is one of those exhaustive 'the band's story in their own word's type things like The Stones and Aerosmith did.

You conveniently forgot that the public spectacle was supposed to be something and shit hit the fan. Then they got another singer, then reunited with the replacement singer before finally reuniting again with the old singer...

So what you think is the best way to get publicity, might not be. :)




/jarmo

Pretty tough endeavor with zero cooperation with one of the main figures.

It wasn't like Steven Tyler had to be forced at gunpoint.  He wanted to do it.

Well, today one of the most important music journalist here in Brazil (he gives a lot of inside info about everything that happens backstage with shows and music scene) said that today he got the info that all the legal things regarding contrats with all the parts is 100% done, and now only depends on the band to make an announcement.

https://twitter.com/jnflesch/status/671694439065239552

Was that the same guy that posted about tour dates before they happened?



/jarmo

Ever the optimist Jarmo!  :hihi:

It was a serious question. I remember a guy posting about tour dates before they happened....




/jarmo

Awesome news, if true.  Let's hope it is.

Yes.

What tour dates, the last tour?

Yeah, I just remember some Brazilian journalist tweeting about the 2014 tour dates....



/jarmo

So it's fair to say this guy has a good track record then.


Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

I?m trying to get more info with him, let?s see

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the first announcements of acts playing next year's Reading Festival will be at 8am on Friday.

Please ask him who "the parts" are. I mean Izzy? Gilby? Richard? Other?

Was he correct in that instance??

I just checked. He posted about the Brazilian tour dates for 2014 a few days before they were announced....





/jarmo

he also said that all the festivals are waiting for a confirmation by the band (regarding headlining those festivals)

http://www.alternativenation.net/guns-n-roses-25-reunion-shows/

Alternative Nation has never had a proper source as far as I know. They're just pulling information from the forums.

Not sure who the source is in that mygnr story, anyone know?

That Brazilian journalist just tweeted that link as well...

We're back to people getting news from fan forums.



/jarmo

I sent him the link, he just retweeted. Before, I asked him about his sources but he didn?t gave me their names (obviously) but said that something big will happen

So let me get this straight-

The news outlets get their news from forums and those forums post those stories?

Is that one of the definitions of a circle jerk? :D

No Emily, he is a respected music journalist here in Brazil, that tweeted some info about the GNR situation, and then I sent him the "alternative nation" link and he just retweeted.

How's his track record? I know he tweeted the 2014 Brazilian dates a few days before they were officially announced. But other than that, has he been right regarding other shows/tours/bands?


/jarmo

So we are going to sit here and claim getting news off fan forums is their first choice?

The lengths we will go to in order to excuse TB really takes the cake.  My lord.

He?s always sharing inside info about upcoming shows before the official annoucement (not only rock, but in general). He has been right so many times. Let?s say every show booked aroud here (and a lot of time in south america), he shares the info before.

Then this is very encouraging, I think.

Are there any rumors of shows in South America that he's commented on?

I?m not saying that he ?s 100% right, I?m saying that this guy is a respected music journalist here in Brazil, that has a lot of inside info in this business and as I follow him on twitter and know how trustable he are, I think he won?t bullshit things like that for nothing. He has proven to be right before on some many occasions, even with GNR.

If he's got a provable track record, that absolutely buys him benefit of the doubt.

Its not like he's some random guy on a message board that knows a guy that knows a guy.  And starts his stuff with "I know most won't believe me..."

I've said this a few times... I really hope for Axl's sake that the rumors are true...

The press and the general reaction will be vicious if it's not true. Worse than ever before... I think.

Sweet Jesus, you really need to spin everything to fit your silly agenda. Sad...

Nobody was making excuses, just POINTING OUT that things go around in circles.

Now, go back to feeling sorry for yourself for being disliked by the band's management. PityParty(TM).




/jarmo

I'm sorry I missed it... Did he comment specifically about it? or retweeted the rumor article?

First he posted something about the return of Guns. Then later he retweeted a link to an article that got its news from a fan forum.


Everybody's favorite expert assumed me pointing this out was some sort of hidden tactic when in reality it was just me pointing out facts.



/jarmo

Not even a question.  So let's hope this all comes off for the sake of us all.

Because that's the next fight.

One side : "Technically, technically I'm saying...Axl never said he was doing this.   So, I don't see where any of this is on him."

Other side : "Are you fucking high?  If he was never going to do this, you can't let all this hang out there.  The backlash would be as inevitable as the sunrise."

And we can already draw up the rosters for both sides RIGHT NOW.

You know the more I think about it... this hybrid thing...

Richard is an obvious fit... we all think Izzy wouldn't be down and besides if they go three guitar players... Richard again makes perfect sense. Duff likes him and Slash supposedly does as well.

But if we are doing this reunion thing... why not Matt over Frank? the only thing that makes sense there is that Axl wouldn't want to "fire" or get rid of Frank ... but Matt certainly makes more sense no?

and of course Dizzwald

If Axl has forgiven Slash and Duff for their bad behavior..certainly he must have forgiven Matt as well no?

(before the Frank supporters get mad at me... I apologize.. i have nothing against the guy, and I am not a drummer.. so I couldn't tell you who the "better" drummer is)

Yeah... I hope it happens...because well.. I want to see it.

But the fall out is going to suck.

I'm right with you.  Also think its odd, for those very reasons you state.

Honestly, if Axl can patch it up with Slash, that's the ultimate game changer.  If you are still someone on his shit list?  Even after a potential reconciliation with "a cancer best removed?"

Then MY GOD...what the hell did you do to the man?

Its worse this time because even people that cashed out on Axl over a decade ago are once again paying him some mind.

If this doesn't happen, well...to think there isn't going to be a bunch of "same old Axl..." sentiment out there is na?ve in the extreme.

I had the weirdest dream last night.... I was watching the "hybrid lineup" performing on an awards show.  Izzy made a guest appearance.  I was really excited then I woke up......  :'(

OMG are you the person who runs that dreadful site?

There has never been an artist in this world who was universally accepted and appreciated. An attempt to create something that everyone likes is a futile goal.

Doreen Virtue

But how many times is the answer to do nothing instead?

If that is your defeatist mindset, why leave your house?

You totally misinterpreted my post. Axl is a great artist. No matter what he does, he will not please everybody. Some of the greatest art creates controversy. And most of the Impressionists died poor. And now their paintings are sold for tens of millions of dollars. great art is timeless.

And then people gonna emo when it's just regulargnr... :hihi:

 :-\

what?  ???

I think she thinks you run AlternativeNation.




/jarmo

No, he is not. RnT was a part of ron's beard crew. I was there. We took care of his beard. Now we're back to forums. Blame the managers...

The real question is, if Axl's name was Skogsal, would you still be a fan?



/jarmo

YA!

The Brazilian journalist seems to have Tweeted again. Something about Axl, Duff and Slash: https://twitter.com/jnflesch/status/671779770670125056



/jarmo

hahaha you guys are all crazy. This forum is crazy as hell hahahaha  :hihi:

He says that this "reunion" won?t be a reunion (classic or Illusion thing), but something to just put axl, slash and duff on the same stage, and make a lot of money. That?s something we already know, nothing new

I am really excited  : ok:  Have not had this much buzz for GNR since CD was released like 7 years ago. I still check in but haven't posted in years but I think its time to change that  :beer: Lets hope the next year brings all of us a lot of productive GNR activity

How about THIS for a shit news article? Pathetic. Are they that desperate to put things on their website?!

http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Glastonbury-Festival-2016-Guns-N-Roses-big-band/story-28268450-detail/story.html

If it does ever happen, what do you think the chances are of us getting to hear Axl belt out a Velvet Revolver song or Ghost or Back from Cali.? Now that would be some cool fucking rock n roll shit right there. Then Slash and Duff could rip into Better from ChinDem or IRS. There's an endless list of cool shit this band could do together again. Hope it happens  :beer:

Intro:
Don't Damn Me
Nightrain
Rocket Queen
You Could Be Mine
Breakdown
Estranged
Don't Cry
November Rain
Used To Love Heri
Patience
You're F@ckin Crazy (acoustic)
One in a million (new words *facsists instead of faggots and bigots instead of ni***rs! Maybe??!)
Paradise City
Sweet Child
Easy
Better
Slither
IRS
Civil War
Brownstone
My Michelle
Garden of Eden
Dead Horse
Coma
There Was a Time

This band would sound amazing

And traci + roberta as backup ^^


 FAIL!!! ;D

j/k

And TEDDY ZZ...

 :hihi: :rofl:

Recent Blabbermouth post reports "Classic" GN'R lineup offered mega bucks for 2 European Festivals, but due to Slash's commitments and Axl's loyalty to his bandmates they may take place in 2017..Perhaps this is an opportunity for Axl to release more CD material.....A WIN all around!!

They reference this article: http://loaded.co.uk/guns-n-roses-get-the-wight-stuff/



/jarmo

Was there not an opportunity in 2015?

I'm right with you that I think it would be great.  I'm just curious what the difference between the 2 years would have been.

Well, we haven't heard from Axl this year so it's hard to say. He might have spent this year in the studio. We know he's a perfectionist.

One year ago Richard confirmed that Axl was in the studio, so there's been activity since Axl gave the Revolver interview.

No, there was not.




/jarmo

Do you think people that use this argument should be held accountable down the line if 365 days from now we are saying this exact same stuff?

Really?  And why was that?

I'm simply asking, but you seem to be speaking more in the declarative sense.

What's the basis?

Not sure I'd put too much faith in that article... and a lot can change in two years.

Things take a long time in Axl's world, it shouldn't come as a surprise for us in 2015.

I am one of the advocates for more information and more creative output, but at the same time you have to look at the realities and can't really do anything else than accept it. Nothing will change.

Wttj
It's Easy
Better
Mr Brownstone
November Rain
Slash Solo ;D
Scom
Civil War
Sorry
Ycbm
This I Love
Catcher in The Rye
Nightrain

Encore:

Rocket Queen
Estranged
Paradise City

All true.

I'm just not a fan of consequence free statements.

It would seem to me, anyone at all interested in credibility, if you are going to go all in on something and shout down an opposing view based on little more than your hunch...you should have to own up if it didn't pan out.

Nothing major.  Just a basic "well, didn't pan out so it looks like I was wrong to assume that" and so forth.

Expecting this one in any sort of reunion setlist is...well, I think its a stretch.

YEah but ...who cares...it's a good one  ;D

But I did say we really don't know and then proposed a possible explanation. Isn't that all we can do when there's no substantial information out there.

You questioned the difference between 2015 and 2016. Didn't you then base that on a preconception of nothingness behind the scenes in 2015?

I'm also curious as to why 2015 was off the table for a new album release...

Pretty much, yeah. 

But if an album came out sometime in 2016, guess what?  I was wrong.  Would be little argument I was not.

My question, I suppose, is if you are the sort of person that believes that all this work has been done in 2015, if we got to the end of 2016 and we were no further along, is it not incumbent upon a person to say perhaps they were mistaken?

Or can they just get away with doubling down and insisting there was serious work done in 2015 AND 2016...nevermind there is not a shred of proof outside a few vague statements that can be taken several ways?

No doubt.

Just hoping its not "well, it didn't come out, so...um, there wasn't."

We shall see.

Yeah, "Well, it didn't come out so obviously there wasn't..." is essentially a non-answer to a declarative statement like that. Hopefully Jarmo can explain.

Yeah, he seemed pretty sure, huh?

I get your point there. But this is what happens when we're in the dark on the process. If we shall have anything to talk about there's bound to be speculation. To be clear, I'm not insisting anything here, I'm just guessing.

If the album comes out in the end of 2016 I don't think either you or me cares about what we discussed one year ago. Even if Axl comes out and talks about in detail how he worked on the album in 2015, I wouldn't bother to dig up this thread and point out that I was right all along.

Because they decided to some time off and people went to do other things, on top of that Dj quit. All of that kinda made touring the album more difficult.
Or maybe you'd prefer an album in 2015 and a tour in say 2016? Just like last time.... No wait, that's not how this business works right?

Or maybe Axl decided to take the year off!



/jarmo

Hahaha.  Yeah, I say that about everything with this band.

In the rare times good news comes, all the arguments that came before go out the window.  No longer current issues.

Ah, I see.

So you think its the lack of a viable touring band right now that has delayed things.

Maybe you're right.

I don't know for sure.
Maybe the plan was to release it this year and tour later. Then they decided not to.
I do remember Dj mentioning that things might be happening this year. I don't think he made it up.


Edited to add: As a fan, it's not as much fun when there's downtime. But it does make sense to step away a little bit. Just makes the return is more exciting....



/jarmo

Though I have no idea whether or not it's the official reason we didn't get the next album this year, I would agree that having a touring lineup ready to go to promote it upon it's release or soon thereafter is pretty important. If that's what they're waiting for, I can understand that.   

Axl does have a tendency to let excitement build up to a point where the fans become unsure of what's going on, then BOOM - he pops up out of nowhere.

New music and touring (yes, even a reunion tour) are great and all...But if Axl is somehow able to pull off both in the same year, something he hasn't been able to do since 1991, holy shit it'd be nothing short of a miracle and would likely be the most exciting year for GNR fans since said year. Here's hoping!

I do remember Dj mentioning that things might be happening this year. I don't think he made it up.




/jarmo

Things sure did happen, 2 guitarists quit...Yowzer..


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Technically BBF has been out for a while  ::)

Things Be Happening This Year:

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Technically BBF has been out for a while  ::)
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Don't forget about Tommy...

Don't forget about Tommy...
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I'm not, on one hand you could make the argument that he left first- considering that he chose the replacements shows over the GNR shows.

But there's enough insanity at present :D

Add Lizzy Hale from Halestorm to the list of musicians claiming there is going to be a reunion. Apparently she did an interview with that mitch lafon I think who is the same guy who had that interview with Slash someone can correct me if I am wrong and she was asked what her thoughts on a reunion would be and she said friends she knows is that it sounds like a reunion is happening and she would love to open for them if they were ever asked. Saw the article on facebook.

If reunion happens they should also play this.  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0waoQk21lM8&app=desktop
(GNR cover band playing Slither/If the world)

Hi everyone, first post :)

I don't think we'll see CDII anytime soon. Axl has shown that he prefers that the guitarist on the album is the same guy who's currently in the band. If Slash is back in the band, then Axl will want him on whatever is to be officially released. Remember, Axl owns the GN'R name. He decides what the next GN'R record is.

I'm not, on one hand you could make the argument that he left first- considering that he chose the replacements shows over the GNR shows.

But there's enough insanity at present :D
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I always imagined Tommy got permission to do the Replacements reunion. Axl always did like to reward his friends. Remember that Tommy never made a dime off the Replacements, plus he lost his brother who played lead, so it was a more emotional project than a simple reunion of a rock n' roll band.

Love Halestorm!  Would love to see them open for GnR (in any incarnation).

Her performance of Out ta Get Me with the Conspirators was fucking awesome! imo

Yes!  One of the best GnR covers I've heard.  She also did a pretty bad ass cover of Slave to the Grind by Skid Row.

I don't think this is happening fellas...

https://www.charitybuzz.com/catalog_items/meet-slash-with-2-vip-tickets-to-his-2016-2017-nyc-tri-783332

So, is this a confirmation of a Slash tour happening?

yeah, touring at least late 2016-early 2017.  I doubt GNR would launch a tour in early-mid 2016.  Way too much to set up logistically for that. 

I always imagined Tommy got permission to do the Replacements reunion. Axl always did like to reward his friends. Remember that Tommy never made a dime off the Replacements, plus he lost his brother who played lead, so it was a more emotional project than a simple reunion of a rock n' roll band.
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It was still a clear choice of one over the other, whatever qualifiers you want to include with that.

I enjoyed seeing Duff at the GG awards, so everything worked out great.  : ok:

Correct me if I?m wrong but what I read there it is just a charity event in N.Y., not a full tour. Myles however has a tour with his other band next year.

I was focused on the part I bolded below.  It says 'tour' there pretty clearly.  This event is only for the NY show on the tour. 

Meet Slash with 2 VIP Tickets To His 2016/2017 NYC/Tri-State Area Tour Stop With Myles Kennedy and The Conspirators

http://www.laweekly.com/music/gnr-tour-isnt-happening-according-to-former-guns-n-roses-manager-6274934


Also apperently it's not happening, according to slash. Atleast a reunion tour.

Already discssed, about 3 weeks ago.

She's not a very reliable source of info. Which isn't to say it is or isnt hapoenng. But she isn't someone youd think would know.

The dates are placeholders. They say dates will be confirmed "after jan 1, 2016", and basically say they could happen between 1/2/16 and 12/31/17.  Thats a big window....and might not have any effect on gnr plans.