Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Ok first off, I am fan of Slash, past, present and hopefully future(these days I'm not sure if that will pan out).  This is not a thread to just rip on Slash, but to truly have a discussion and analyze his career choices post 1996.   With the news that he pretty much nixed the Corey Taylor/VR deal, I have to truly question this guys decision making process now.  Whether or not you thought Corey would be a good fit for VR, it would have interesting to say the least, and it finally got the Velvet Revolver name which has been dead for 4 years some buzz in the rock community again.  Now thats gone.  Lets anaylze some of his blunders in recent years shall we?

-Quits Guns N Roses in 1996. Let me say that again, he FUCKING QUITS GUNS N ROSES IN 1996!?? 

-Free of the burden of being in one of the greatest rock bands of all time, he decides to take part in a video by long forgotten R&B/Rap group, Blackstreet in 1997.  Remember that one?  Yeah i tried to forget it too.

-Reaches to the far ends of irrelevance to pull BREAL into a studio from the long forgotten group Cypress Hill to butcher a Guns N Roses classic with Fergie.

-Takes part in a Volkswagen commercial, nothing more rock n roll than that.  Lets just be thankful Axl has nixed MANY MANY opportunities in which Slash would have raped the GNR catalog to the highest bidder.

-Would think it would be cool to have a GNR Glee episode, until someone with a clue informed him that is not cool and he retracted that statement.

- Super Bowl...bedazzled Top Hat, need I say more?

- Slash's brain : Hey November Rain is an awesome song, but I really want to know what it sounds like with Jamie Foxx and T-Pain.  Yes lets do that.    Hey Slash sometimes terrible ideas are better off played out in your head, not on national television.

-Velvet Revolver is picking up steam with Corey Taylor attached to it, could be a great opportunity to try something different, no lets make another generic rock record with Myles Kennedy....awesome.

-Speaking of generic rock, lets not forget about that guest spot on that album by the rock n roll juggernaut that is Daughtry!  I guess Nickelback was out of town at the time.

-I almost forgot about Slash's Snakepit...so did the rest of the world.


Would anyone like to add to this list?

- interview with Bohdi in 2011

HAW HAW kidding dude. hey man you are just picking every single bad decision out in a row, so of course he looks bad.. but hes made many good ones too right? Or else he wouldn't be the richest and (arguably) most well known of all the originals would he? Guitar hero, for example?

anyways this isn't intended to kill the thread - totally keen to hear about some more slash eff-ups i just have none to contribute. Hahahah blackstreet HAHAHHA awesome!!!!

For someone who left one of the biggest rock bands of all time 15 years ago, he actually seems to be doing pretty well-he just had his album go to #3 on the charts last year, and had a #1 album with Velvet Revolver sell 2 million copies back in 2004-you really are that worried about a top hat in the Super Bowl?

no that was a joke, the top hat was the least of my concerns.  The butchering of a classic rock n roll song with the Black Eyed Peas while wearing that silly thing was a far worse offense.  Of all the blasphemous rock moves ive listed you have focused on the top hat joke?

yes I have defended him several times over the years.   He has made some good decisions, like having guest singers on his solo album but after completely killing the Corey/VR thing, Ive decided to take a step back and not just defend the guy because I am a huge fan of his music, but to honestly take an honest look at some of his questionable and sometimes embarrassing decisions.  He is certainly on a roll in the last year.  Instead of putting out a VR record or another solo record with guest singers which would be a good idea, he is soley working with the singer who I thought produced 2 of the weaker tracks on the album.  This is going to be a snoozefest of Slash's Snakepit proportions and we all know it! 

My point of the thread is there is a serious trend of bad decisions happening of late, I think has lost it or out of touch, or both.

I don't think that Slash does these things on purpose, he just seems to want to be in the spotlight all the time, so if that means appearing in a TV ad, or butchering a GN'R classic, then so be it.

I think Slash has changed alot since leaving Guns, and some people would say that he's lost his self worth. But I tend to feel sorry for Slash sometimes, as we all know that he would kill to be in GN'R again.  :yes:

I think that because he was used to selling out stadiums with GN'R, and being able to do what he wanted during 1987-1995. He is not used to being his own boss, so he makes alot of stupid decisions, which he probably thinks will get him abit of publicity.

But I don't hate him for doing all of these things, as he is doing everything by his rules. And he most probably thinks "Axl is still out there continuing GN'R, which is a band I helped to create. So why shouldn't I be able milk everything I can out of my association with that band".............Which is a hard thing to argue against, so I just let Slash get on with it.   :-\

I'll agree with your points except for the first one. I think that version of GNR had done all it could do together and Slash realized the relationship couldn't be salvaged.

I think Slash could do far, far worse.

I don't put much stock into who plays on who's albums. I don't think Slash was begging to play on Blackstreet's album.
He is easily the most recognizable living guitarist out there today, and people want to work with him. He obliged. Big deal.

I also think it's a very childish attitude to turn your nose up at who works with who based on what they have done in the past.
Sure, when I was in 6th grade I'd be furious that my favorite guitarist "sold out" and worked with a rapper, but can't imagine letting something like that bother me today.

If you're not interested in the collaboration, don't listen to it. I have no interest in listening to anything by Cypress Hill, so I haven't gone anywhere near it.

Then again, I hate Kid Rock with a passion, but think I Hold On is a great song, and not just by today's standards.
I don't care for Maroon 5 or Avenged Sevenfold, but like their contributions to the solo album.
I had never heard of Rocco Deluca, and probably won't delve any deeper into his catalogue, but enjoyed his song.
Same with Beth Hart and Myles Kennedy. I would probably sacrifice 1, 2 maybe all of my limbs for 5 minutes alone with Nicole (pussy cat doll) but never imagined I'd enjoy a song with her on it.

Many people thought it was weak to see Axl collaborate with the Boss and Elton John at the time. Not me, I thought it was epic, but the point is it's all subjective.

Playing in a VW commercial bothers people? Really??

Slash's snakepit albums are nothing to write home about, but not half as bad as their reputation either. Both lead singers were very forgettable, and so goes the albums.

I don't anticipate the upcoming solo record to be another Snakepit project at all. It could go either way, but he's a much more talented singer, and based on the songs I've heard, songwriter. Plus Slash seems reenergized as of late, and is playing better live than he ever did with VR in my opinion.

I don't think there is any point in continuing Velvet Revolver when the lead singer quit, and they have decided to go in a totally different musical direction. Sounds like a new band to me. Corey Taylor was anything but a sure thing. I personally think Slipknot is god awful, and don't know many GNR or VR fans that also listen to Slipknot. Just doesn't seem like the perfect match to me that others seem to think it could have been. I think Corey has a good voice, and so I would keep an open mind if they did work together, but not losing any sleep over it either way.

On leaving Guns? Well it seems pretty obvious to me if we are to believe, or half believe anything the other original members have said about their own departures. Right or wrong, they clearly couldn't get over their musical differences. Axl obviously ended up going in a different direction, and although I think it's good, it doesn't sound like something Slash, Duff or Izzy were into, and I'm glad their names aren't attached to it.

That incarnation of the band was dead the day Izzy walked out anyway, and Slash staying wasn't going to change that.
I don't see where people get the whole Slash wanting to be back in the band thing. To me it seems like he is perfectly content just where he is.

Outside of GNR and VR, without all the drama that comes along with both.

That's my 2 cents. A lot of people share your opinion, and I can respect that.

I think Slash has changed alot since leaving Guns, and some people would say that he's lost his self worth. But I tend to feel sorry for Slash sometimes, as we all know that he would kill to be in GN'R again.

No we all don't know that Slash would kill to be in GNR. As far as things changing for him since he left GNR you are right about that. Slash is clean, sober, and healthy. Slash has a family. In 2010 alone he successfully completed a cd and a world tour. So far in 2011 Slash has been to the SB, toured, started a movie production company, will tour again this summer and is starting a new cd with his new band. The man is known by all as a RNR Icon. If he had stayed with GNR he would most likely be dead by now.

I was not happy about the VR news either but we should have seen the writing on the wall. I don't think that Slash will find a singer to please him for any project now unless his name is Myles Kennedy. And Myles does not want to be in VR.

BTW Bodhi excellent topic. :)

The thing that has made me scratch my head the most has been the collaborations on GN'R songs with Fergie/Cypress Hill and Fergie/Black Eyed Peas, and the Jamie Foxx thing.

I would be curious to hear more of his reasoning for not wanting Corey Taylor in VR.  I assume there is something there that he hasn't fully expressed or articulated publicly.

Ali

People also seem to dismiss the fact that people like Axl Rose and Scott Weiland don't come around very often. Myles isn't in those guys stratosphere, but who is? Certainly not Corey Taylor. Those guys would be a wash at best. Unfortunately rock isn't very popular today, it's not the early 90's anymore. There isn't a new crop of amazing singers coming up to choose from like Cornell, Staley, Lanegan, Vedder, Rose, Weiland etc. We were spoiled then, but rock has been on life support for years now and is clinging on for dear life, so if Myles is up for making a rock album, I'm excited to hear it.

By the Sword is the closest thing to a rock epic since Slash era Guns in my opinion. Just throwing that out there.

Should Slash check in on this thread to go with what everyone wants him to do, or do what he wants? Maybe he should have gone against his instincts and hired Corey Taylor, just to make headlines and everyone happy.

I actually think rock has never been better than it is right now.  I have been waiting for this day since 1992, which i thought was the last great time period for hard rock music.  To me pretty much all of the 90's bands were forgettable compared to their 70's and 80's predecessors, with the exception of Nirvana, and I guess Pearl Jam although I am not a huge fan of theirs.

This is a great time for rock music, heavy rock music especially.  Festivals like Uproar and Mayhem are drawing huge crowds and Metallica is dominating the world with the Big 4 Shows.

On a side note about Corey Taylor, I actually don't know many GNR fans that dont listen to either Slipknot or Stone Sour, except for a good majority of fans on this board.  It doesn't seem that newer bands get much of a chance on this board it seems 1994 is like the farthest some people here go as far as bands they listen to.  That is not an insult, just an observation.  Then again not much good has come out since 1994 until recently.  But I would say the last 5 years one of the greatest periods for hard rock music ever.

you know, it might not hurt to start taking some other peoples advice.  I would be in favor of removing his decision making privileges until he proves he can handle them again.  :hihi:

I know, that solo album last year was a horrible decision-didn't sell at all.

I thought the solo album was a great decision,  Its the several ones before it and after it I am taking issue with.  I thought the solo album was such a great decision I couldn't wait for his follow up, until he said he was doing the whole thing with Myles. I like Myles, but I dont see the point in doing a whole record with him.

I loved VR-I'm pissed that Corey Taylor is not in the band-not into Duff's Loaded at all. but if Slash's isn't into it, I don't want one album made, then they break with Corey Taylor, and Slash says really wasn't into it in the first place, and then people will really butcher him again-there are a million things Axl and Slash do that I don't get-I wish I could manage both, but I've learned after 20+ years that it's pointless-I don't know-I'm just venting today-I don't know.

Loved the first Sankepit, hated the second one-his worst stuff ever, but I just never really go back and listen to old guns stuff or VR stuff anyway

Well it's certainly all subjective, I'm definitely not trying to pass my opinions off as facts. I just don't see anyone out there today that could hold a candle to the bands of the 80's early nineties like Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, STP, Mad Season, RHCP, Pantera, Primus, Ozzy's solo, Temple of the Dog, GNR in their prime, Metallica when they were good, Megadeth is still nasty, but Friedman era is tough to beat...

Nirvana, although great, I thought was one of the more overrated, but you gotta expect that when someone dies young. Sublime became the Beatles there for a while when Brad od'd.

It is entirely possible though that I am just an old fart set in my ways, haha.
Rock began to die in '94 in my view, with STP and Soundgarden making the last great big rock records in Tiny Music and Down on the Upside. Foo Fighters breathed new life for a while, then went a bit generic.
Still plenty of amazing music made since then, just not as much in the mainstream(in my opinion of course.)

Izzy made a decision to leave GN'R, which unfortunately killed the band in my opinion. Can't say it was a bad decision though, because he did it for his health and sanity, and he's alive, well and productive today. His records aren't earth shattering, and have become a bit repetitive lately, but overall I probably enjoy his work most of the alumni.

Axl and Slash probably suffered the most from the split because they are viewed as the faces of the band, so good or bad, they are going to take the praise, or criticism.
Obviously no one thought it was healthy to stay, but either way, Axl and Slash were going to, and always will have those high expectation hanging over their heads until the day they die.

Izzy, Duff, Matt, Gilby, Steven can make all the good, bad decisions they want. They aren't held to the same standard, right or wrong.

I buy and have generally enjoyed everything they do, but haven't been overly impressed with anything the alumni has done since. They set the bar pretty damn high, being the greatest hard rock band ever in my opinion. Slash's solo album and Izzy's 117 degrees albums are the most consistent albums that I enjoy. I'm not positive Slash's album will stand the test of time to me, like Izzy's has(I think it def will) but it's exciting to hear something after all these somewhat lackluster releases(compared to gnr) I've been accustomed to. Makes me look forward to what's next, so I'm not worried about a cameo he did with Blackstreet back when music was really going down the shitter with tragedies like Korn, Limp Bizkit and Marilyn Manson taking over the world.

No, no one is saying any of that.

I'm just curious as to what about Corey Taylor made Slash think it wasn't a good fit.  Would they have been too metal with Taylor in the band in Slash's mind, etc.

Ali

Do we know for sure that Slash was the one who had a problem with Corey being the singer?. I know Duff was very complimentary towards him, but Matt hasn't really said much from what I can gather...

In any case, I agree with the person who said that there aren't alot of singers around that are the calibre of Axl and Scott. It was never going to be easy to replace Scott, even with names like Corey, I feel that he's just not the right fit.  :no:

yeah it was Slash making his typical bonehead decisions, thats why I started this thread...

COREY TAYLOR On Failed VELVET REVOLVER Singer Bid: 'I Guess It Just Wasn't Working For SLASH' - May 5, 2011

After months of speculation that STONE SOUR/SLIPKNOT frontman Corey Taylor was going to become the new VELVET REVOLVER singer, followed by theories about why the band never eventually pulled the trigger, VELVET guitarist Slash admitted in a recent interview that he was the main holdout against Taylor getting the gig.

Slash confirmed to Vorterix.com that Taylor did work with the group, explaining, "All we were doing was just rehearsing with him and trying him out ? auditioning him . . . he did come in and do all that. It just didn't seem to fit right to me. And he's great, and I love Corey, but it didn't seem like the answer to the VELVET REVOLVER problem."

Slash blamed social networks for spreading the rumor that Taylor was joining the group, saying, "As soon as that rumor (got around), next thing you know, everybody is saying Corey's the new singer. It's just an audition process; it's the way that we do it."

During a co-hosting gig on last night's (Wednesday, May 4) edition of the "Louder" radio show, which airs on the Live 105 station in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, Taylor was asked to respond to Slash's comments. "We got together and we jammed some stuff and I guess it just wasn't working for him, which? He's Slash and he's entitled to have that, and I'm not gonna argue with him," Corey said. "But it was cool to just be able to get together and jam with those guys and I made some really cool friends. Me and Duff [McKagan, VELVET bassist] are really close. It's one more thing I can say I did."

Sadly for VELVET REVOLVER fans, Slash admitted that it doesn't look like a solution to the "problem" is happening any time soon. He said, "Next year I definitely will make another Slash record with Myles Kennedy and go on tour. So at least for the next couple of years, nothing is going to be happening with VELVET REVOLVER that I can see 'cause I'll be focused on this . . . I'm just not really concerning myself with it right now. We had all these different guys try out, all really good singers, but nobody has fit the thing, so, you know, I have to move on."

Duff McKagan recently revealed that recordings exist of Taylor singing with the band. McKagan seemed a little more positive about Taylor than Slash, telling Music Radar, "Whether he's in VELVET REVOLVER or not . . . I think he's the best voice of a new generation. The best rock 'n' voice out there. He's got a lot of positive energy. I'd be proud to do anything with him."

watz up with that 1997 long forgotten thing never heard about it?
 :confused:

My opologies, I just saw it in the other section of the board...

Well, so it was indeed Slash. All I can say is that it seems a tad selfish, that he was the one who rejected Corey. Because he has a pretty big project that he can fall back on, and he also announced that he's planning on doing another album with Myles. ( :o... I know)

I know Duff has Loaded, but you gotta feel that both Duff and Matt would have wanted to restart VR as soon as possible, and definitely in less than 2 years time.

It's them I feel sorry for, and I only fear that this might cause some tension between Matt and Slash.  :-\

The point of me bringing that up was that he quit GN'R and his next project following his departure a few months later was playing with Blackstreet! 

C'mon. Snakepit rocks. 5 o'clock's an great album.

ANd it's not a bad decision he left GnR. If he didn't leave, Duff probably wouldn't have left. And we probably wouldn't hear VR or Loaded. And we wouldn't have the great members wich is GnR today!

I dont know why people don't just focus on the music.  Slash's solo album and Contraband are 2 very good albums.  Libertad and 5 o clock are not bad either.  Not to mention all the GNR albums! 

I don't really enjoy the Fergie or American Idol kinda stuff myself but its his life, i just ignore a lot of that.  He probably does it cos he loves playing the guitar and gets him out there in the mainstream... attracting more fans.

But these days the majority of "Cool" rockstars are doing this sort of stuff.  You got Steven Tyler on American Idol, Zakk Wylde on idol, Brian May on the X Factor, Ozzy doing the reality TV, Iggy and Alice Cooper doing commercials etc etc etc.

PS: It was a great decision for Slash to leave GNR because the conditions had become unworkable for that line up.

add that from all the different Slash releases we really do have some great songs and guitar stuff over all the years.

SLASH has done a terric job of becoming a "stand--Alone" commercial success- which was always his top goal after leaving guns- gotta hand it to him for that. Whether you agree with how he did it is just a personal thing.  I personally would love to see VR get back together- that's where I enjoy him the most ( other than in Guns) there were also many good songs on his last solo record except the 2 songs with Myles Kennedy- they were weak as hell. I know everyone says he can hit all the GNR notes but after seeing them live, he just doesnt have the venom or stage swagger to to pull off GNR songs. He is happy & smilling the whole fucking time & that's not a GnR vibe- to me  is a great front man for a "girl Rock" kind of band like Nickelback or Goo Goo Dolls so I was real dissappointed to hear Slash is doing another CD with him & not VR.

I will still go to see SLASH play live but only to see him play, so IMO continuing to work with Myles is his worst decision for I completely hate his style- so NOT bad- ass! :no:

I got the feeling that Myles knew his place on the tour. He knew it was Slash's name on the tickets, he was the guy the fans came to see.
Maybe he stepped back a bit because of it. Maybe next time it will be different, since it sounds like it's more of a formal band now. Maybe not. Who knows?

I personally thought he was fine live. That's a lot of material to cover, and I can't think of many other people that could do it.
Sure, he doesn't sound anywhere near as good as Axl does singing GNR songs, but who could be expected to?

He's certainly not a showman like Scott or Axl, and he doesn't have as strong a voice as either of them, but he gets the job done.
Besides, who out there today is a good singer/songwriter/showman and available?

I thought Stockdale sounded amazing with Slash, and he'd probably be my first pick off of the solo record to record an entire album with.
I wasn't real impressed with his stage presence or live performances that I have seen though, albeit youtube.
Unfortunately, aside from the already established, the days of great frontmen appear to be long gone. Gotta take what you can get!

ok i just watched it and ... what the fuck was that!?  :no:
and if one of the main reasons leaving guns was that guns was playing a bit different music and it wasent rock enough well why did he do that then?

Good points.  I also think in part of his attempt to stay relevant and in the spotlight post GNR, he had to take a lot more chances.  Thus the more misses.  Not every appearance, collaboration, etc. is going to be a homerun.  People are going to like some more than others, some are not going to go over well at all. 

I agree with Bodhi's original list being far from impressive, but you could pick apart each and every entertainers worst decisions and come up with lists that are equally as unimpressive.  The BIGGEST bad decision Slash made, that led to most of the others, was the decision to quit Guns N' Roses.  BUT, as others have pointed out, there were many valid reasons for him leaving.  The situation had come to a head and the band was no longer functioning in a positive manner, to put it politely.  And it was probably a good decision for him health-wise as well, though he didn't exactly clean up until YEARS later anyway.

So my answer to the question would be that Slash has made a fair number of bad decisions, but who hasn't?  And no, he's not the WORST.  Pete Best leaving the Beatles was much worse.  And to a lesser extent, for any Stern fans out there, Jackie Martling leaving The Howard Stern Show.

The biggest problem with Slash is that, he's at he's absolute best with a great frontman like Axl or Scott.  8)

Slash needs someone who can pull just as much attention from the crowd as himself, and that's the problem with Myles. I don't like Slash's projects where he is the main attraction, like Snakepit, SLASH, and whenever he performs with other artists...

That's why VR came across really well, because it had the same components to original GN'R in a way. Duff was there, as was Matt, and then you had Scott who really became a real presence onstage, and that's what Slash needs.  : ok:

It's kind of like a TV show where there's a group of actors, and you really dig the one who's kind of in the background. And when he becomes big enough to brake away and create a show by themself, and he's the lead role. And then you discover that you don't like him as much as you thought, and you wished he was back in the background appearing now and then.

(A bit like the "Friends", and the "Joey" comparrison)

^^
exactly.

I don't think many people would argue that Slash and Axl did their best work together, but that's the past and no longer an option.
I liked VR. It was a small breath of fresh air when rock music was almost non existent. Scott's best days were behind him though, his best work was w/the Deleo bros, and even with them he made, and continues to make some doozies. VR to me was an amazing live band, with some good studio albums. Never felt like they totally gelled to me.

Unfortunately, I'm not too optimistic that the guy VR is looking for exists.

I'm curious as to how many listens people have given Slash's solo album. It's pretty amazing, especially when you consider the fact that he plays all guitar parts, besides Izzy's on the opener. How he managed to make a cohesive sounding album, with multiple singers and musicians is beyond me. It's something few bands manage to do today. It's one of the better sounding albums I've heard in a long time as far as production goes as well.

Looking at bands of Slash's era, and bands that have broken up, very few guitarists have been more successful or productive.

I think Axl and Slash would find the Friends comparison to be offensive, haha.
Friends and Joey sucked.

Just for the record, I'm one of those people who has never watched either Friends or Joey. It was the only comparrison I could think of, and I think it explains the sentiments of the situation between GN'R and Slash pretty well...

It's also abit like the Brian May Band, where he as the guitarist was the main attraction. I don't think Queen fans would dis-agree, that they prefer Brian in Queen where he was in the background, behind a masterfull showman. and where he was able to have his moments of magic, in a traditional band setting.  :peace:

I don't think many people are dissing his solo album.  I've heard a few say they don't like the Myles songs, or the fact that he's doing his next album with Myles, but overall I think his solo album was pretty well received.

I actually think the 2 Myles tracks are 2 of the best on the album, and I dig MOST of the songs.  There are a handful I could care less about, but I still pop it in and crank it every once in awhile.  I did so yesterday driving around in fact.

maybe he can just blame his brother?

What do you mean by bad decision? Because there's a difference between a bad decision for ME and for Slash.

Look it at from the guys perspective; every decision he's made makes sense, i've never been suprised. You can explain away each one.

He's rich as fuck. he's seriously well loved by mainstreams and die hards. He could go down the path of trying to make millions again, and join a band and brand it and have a comittment to 4 guys and be a member of a team with equal decisions etc.

Stressful but a good payoff.

Or he can just kick back a bit, do what he wants, however much of it he wants and get all the good bits of being in a band and none of the bads! AND still have a chance of making it big Santana style.

I think Slash loves Myles as a dude. They're good friends, and Myles probably kisses his ass most of the time. Slash also thinks Myles has a great voice. So for him, Myles is a low stress, enjoyable time

Now, if VR (and maybe even 2012 Guns reunion possibilities) weren't in the background, I don't think Slash would be so ; because if this Solo experiment falls through, he's nothing; a faded away rock star. That would make being solo VERY stressful.

But in the current situation, I see it as Slash taking a bit of a break from his 'major projects' & experimenting - while still putting in enough effort, so if the Solo thing does take off it could become a major project. I think he wants to not quit the Solo thing before its peak; when he feels that it has run its course, he'll head back to VR.

The whole reason I made this thread in the first place is completely justified by...........South Park

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6pkdUkupsE

 

I see were you are coming from with the thread but i think most of his bad decisions are not really relative to his music career, which is what I am a fan of.   

Quitting Guns was more of a neccesary decision than a bad one.  That version of the band had run its course.  While Im not a fan of Snakepit, i think that was always just more of a fun thing.
I think starting VR was a good decision and also VR breaking up when they did was a good choice. 

He has done things that I would of preferred him not to do... but i just kinda ignore it.  If he ever makes an album with a rapper or something, then i might get upset.  But i don't mind as long as his albums and main projects are cool.

To be honest i think Perla probably causes more trouble than people realize.  She's the one that tried to get Slash to meet Axl.  Scott seems to have issues with her from the VR break up and even Slash filed for divorce.

I think he's closer to the best decision maker than the worst.

He managed to form another highly successful rock n roll band when the genre was dead.
VR was a good studio band and an amazing live act.

He managed to get sober.

He put out a successful solo album, in my opinion his best work since Guns.
You definitely get your moneys worth when you go see him and his touring band live.

What more do you really want from him?

Compare him with anyone that comes from a successful band that imploded, and he's doing as well, if not better than any of them.

Jeff Beck, the greatest living guitarist in my opinion has been putting out quality records and tours the last few years, but in the 80's and 90's he was pumping out some pretty forgettable, and some awful stuff. Perry, Taylor, Page etc aren't exactly setting the world on fire these days. Metallica is still huge, but Kirk hasn't played an interesting note in 20 years.

I would try and enjoy the fact that he's out there, because rock n roll guitarists are a dying breed.
Classic GNR may still be dominating the airwaves had they been able to work things out, but more than one member agreed the band had run it's course. Considering the fact that he's been out of the band since '96, and still just as recognizable as when GNR was in it's prime, in an age where rock music is dead and Lady Gaga is all the rage, I think it's hard to argue against the fact that he's made good decisions.

Maybe off topic, but since I've shot down the Slash argument, I'll give my vote to Mick Taylor, who helped make the Rolling Stones the greatest rock band to ever walk this planet.
Then he left in '74, and has done next to nothing since. I enjoy his solo records, but they are a far cry, as most records are, from Let it Bleed, Exile on Main St, Sticky Fingers etc.

I guess health had a lot to do with it, though he's gone back and fourth with that. Either way, from a musical standpoint, it has to be viewed as a bad decision.
Stones went from great, to bland after he left, and eventually a mediocre at best studio band(after Some Girls).

The next time they would put out good music was when they went to the vaults and used material Taylor had worked on, and released it on Tattoo You.
Plundered My Soul being another more recent example. Guy can still play.

haha you didn't shoot the Slash argument down at all, not even close. All you said is that you are a fan of Slash.  You made no attempt to excuse his horrendous decisions in which he whores himself out so much that other people like Trey Parker and Matt Stone have started to notice, not just us on the message boards.  By decisions I am not talking entirely about his album releases, VR/Snakepit etc...I'm talking about the Super Bowl, the Fergie nonsense, all of the sell out crap he does.  I've always said I like his work, but he embarrasses the shit out of me sometimes with where and who he chooses to share his talents.

Also Im not sure what world you live in where guitar players are a dying breed, there are guys in their 20's who play circles around Slash and write way better music than anything he has done since GNR.  For example,  Avenged Sevenfold are the biggest hard rock band in the country right now, and Synyster Gates playing is a huge part of that.  He is a modern day guitar hero.  Slash hasn't put out one record since Guns that can touch anything Avenged has put out in the last 8 years.  The one song he did with M. Shadows on his solo album was his attempt at an A7X song, and you could tell it was a notch above his skill level, extremely sloppy, bad tone.  There is a lot of good music out there dude.  The world doesn't begin and end with Slash.

The shooting down comment was just busting balls...

That said, you care about all the things that don't matter to me.
I'm a fan of Slash because I enjoy listening to the music he makes.

He has stayed pretty true to what he is since he came into the mainstream, a rock n roll guitarist.
His name ranks up there with legends like Page, Beck, Taylor, Perry.
For that reason, people want him to play on their albums, and make live appearances.

You gotta keep it in perspective.
Synyster Gates doesn't rank among those names.
If I were a betting man, I'd bet my house he never will.
I don't think his cell phone is blowing up in quite the same manner.
If it were, we could very well see him collaborating with artists you'd prefer he didn't.
If he ends up having half the career/staying power that Slash has put together, you might have to make a thread about his decision making. He's got a long way to go before we have to worry about that though.

I've heard the argument many times over about people being able to "play circles" around Slash, or Perry or whomever they are trying to disparage. Thing is, I've never heard these guys play an Estranged, or November Rain caliber solo.
They can play circles around him all the way into obscurity, once the novelty wears off.

If you focus on the music, I don't think there is much to complain about with Slash.
If you're looking for a decision made that you can disagree with, you'll find it with Slash, and every other artist who ever lived.

I don't really care about technical proficiency either, but it is a nice thing to have.  I was saying that Gates is a better songwriter than post-GNR Slash, and some of the stuff off of the last 3 Avenged albums is on par with Slash's GNR work.  Just my opinion.  I wouldn't bet your house on Gates not making it to legend status by the time he hits Page and Perry's age.  The dude is only 29, has several platinum albums, several books and dvd's dedicated to learning his playing style and has the respect of James Hetfield and a lot of the other legends in the business.  Avenged is a pretty big band.  He is 12 years into his career and not even 30 yet.  Guitar World has done several cover features on him already, including this one with him and Joe Perry.  He's certainly on his way to gaining the respect of the guitar playing world.

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i've never heard from that Avenged guitar dude, and i'm a huge music fan. Avenged aint that big in Germany IMO. putting that dude next to Slash is totally out of line.
better songwriter? have seen them 2 or 3 times on festivals.....nothing for my ears.
but Slash did some very cool songs, riffs and solos over the years!
its all subjective in the end  :beer:

They ain't big in Ireland either.  Maybe its just America... 
Some of their stuff is decent but he has nothing on Slash IMO.   

Definitely its all subjective, and I didn't put him in Slash's class I said he has potential when he reaches Slash's age.  He has accomplished a lot at a very young age. 

Also David Hasselhoff is as big as  Michael Jackson in Germany, so maybe Avenged not being big in Germany isn't actually a bad thing.. :hihi:

listen to the solo in "Afterlife", "Save Me" or "Buried Alive", give some of those a shot, he seems to evolve on every record.  Guys like Slash and Angus Young haven't evolved at all since their first record.  The guys who I consider some of the best of all time, Eddie Van Halen, Dave Mustaine, Hetfield and Hammett all evolved over the course of their careers.  Slash is definitely up there as one of my favorites of all time, but it feels like he peaked during the Illusions, and most of his work after that is just different variations of what he did from 87-91.  I'm not saying I want someone to go off the deep end as far as being experimental, but subtle changes are cool, which is why i liked his solo album  and really had my fingers crossed for the Corey Taylor thing that never panned out.  The only songs I wasn't too stoked about were the Myles songs and the Ian one, cause just sounds like recycled Snakepit riffs, heard it already.  Now he is doing a whole solo cd with just Myles(which is part of the main reason I started the thread).

That's cool, I'll take your word for it. Avenged Sevenfold just really isn't my bag, but I can appreciate the fact that you, and obviously a lot of other people dig em.

Will definitly have a listen  :) 
Myles is a singer that really seems to divide opinion.  Those 2 tracks seem to be people's favourites or least favourite  :hihi:

I was excited about hearing VR with Corey too, sad that it didnt pan out.

I would say that Slash evolved a ton from AFD to the Illusions, as did the entire band. AFD is amazing, and I thought they took it to another level on UYI without straying too far from their roots. It's totally up to the artist to choose what direction they want to go in, but there is the reality that they will alienate the majority of their fan base if they get carried away. Some artists care what their fans think, some don't. I can appreciate that. I personally don't want to hear Slash stray to far because there is a shortage of good rock guitarists to begin with(in my opinion). Jeff Beck is one of my favorite guitarists of all time, and he's about as experimental as they come. Some of his records are gold, and some of them are dog shit. I don't mind him trying something different, and I don't mind Slash sticking to his bread and butter. Slash's solo album is pretty versatile by the way. I'm not sure how much Hetfield has evolved. i think Metallica mailed it in back in 1991, and have been putting out pretty cookie cutter sounding stuff for a long time. I'm a huge fan, I think they are the greatest HM band since Sabbath, but not digging anything recent. Death Magnetic was okay I guess. Mustaine is a freak, but not sure he's really "evolving". Endgame is a return to form. Countdown from Rust in Peace was an evolution. Youthanasia was a continuation of that style, Cryptic was a failed attempt to cross over, and then he lost his fucking mind and a lot of fans for a while. Endgame is his best work in years, but is really just a modern day thrash record.

Mustaine finally finding a guitarist in Friedman's stratosphere certainly didn't hurt either.

NOTHING AGAINST THE HOFF!!!!!   >:(

:rofl:


thanks, will look out for those songs.


seriously i feel that with Axl aswell, but then again he didnt release a shit over the years. on the other hand AFD already was the peak.


nah, that has to be Iron Maiden!!


Endgame is technically very nice but it just misses great songs!!

I think they all peaked during the Illusion albums. Tough to top those.

I love me some Maiden.

I agree about Endgame. The guitars are amazing, but lyrics leave a lot to be desired.
Still refreshing to hear, after a real tough stretch of lousy records.

I didn't wanna even respond to any of this nonsense, but its Friday night and I am bored


The Censorship police will have a field day with this post but if someone can come on here attacking my favorite guitarist of all time, i think i should get the same opportunity to defend these ridiculous statements.

First off, Slash has written 2 or 3 of the greatest guitar solos of all time.

2. Slash voted 2nd greatest guitarist of all time in Time Magazine 

3. Slash is the sympathetic figure in the GNR breakup and is thought of being the victim therefore he has won the media war etc..

4. Slash is a guitar player... These guys don't get the same level of recognition or fame as frontmen, so Slash HASSSSS to promote and sell himself. He has no choice. If Slash hadn't done some of these things, He'd be a complete has been right now and in the Where are they now pile. he has kept himself relevant even if it required some sell outish crappy things.

5. If u have ever illegally Downloaded a music CD, u have no right to question anything a musician does to make money as their ability to live has been stolen away by thieves. If they gotta do some commercials or this and that. Today its more than ok.. maybe not 20 years ago but today it is fine.

6. EVER MAJOR LABEL MUSICIAN SELLS OUT IN SOME WAY.. so just hush with the nonsense
7.Contraband was out of this world successful, his solo album has been extremely successful as well.

8. If someone turned down the opportunity to perform in front of a billion people on national TV.. they should be shot.. nothing wrong with what Slash did. hell he has helped promote GNR's back catalog

9. Grammy thing was terrible but still, go back to number 4.. if u can get on the grammy's and gain exposure for a cd u self financed... u do what u gotta do as an indy artist

10. its the same double standard hypocritical bullshit, Slash does a video game is a sell out.. Axl does one its the coolest thing of all time... Slash does Wolkswagon commercial Axl lends song for Harley Davidson. Slash does Guitar Hero axl does Rockband... not to mention the tons of movies Axl has allowed GNR songs to be used in.. Slash talks about Axl in interviews and OH SHIT he is using Axl to promote VR and to sell albums.... Axl talks shit about Slash in every interview but no one says Oh Axl is using Slash to promote CD etc...  Slash is a sell out but YET walked away from the biggest band in the world.... so if he is all about the money, why not just stick it out in Guns?

Slash's Snakepit's first album actually went platinum.. do some research

11.  Slash and Axl are the same only different sides of the spectrum... As much as its rock n roll for Axl to not do certain things.. its just as much rock n roll Slash doing them and not giving a fuck what anybody thinks about it.


12. Read ur sig about old band/new band and realize u totally are going against ur whole philosophy.

13. The fact Slash is still relevant and HUGE today, 15 years after quitting GNR proves ur entire post to be ridiculously off base.

D, that was a great post! I could not agree more. :)

Also, if u are an  Axl Rose fan, Slash doing the Super Bowl should be the greatest thing ever cause it made people switch over to Axl's side and remember and give him credit for how amazing he is. No one dug that Super Bowl and it even made Axl a worldwide trending topic, a very PRO/positive trending topic on how no one can do Axl and how Shitty Slash doing that with BEP was.

I hold true to my statement: I thought it was terrible, horrible, ridiculous BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, if it helps him sell his Solo CD and allows him to sell out some venues and tour, I can't kick a man or hold it against him. especially in this day and age of the music business.

Yeah, the Super Bowl performance was nauseating.  Not because of Slash's performance at all, but more Fergie's and the fact that he was up there in a bedazzled top hat playing a GN'R classic with the Black Eyed Peas.  But, it was probably a good decision business-wise.  It just could have been executed a little better.  The bedazzled top hat made him look like he was trying to fit in with the BEPs rather than just being himself.  It was just unnecessary.  But, Christ, at least the mix could have been better and the singer could have sung the song in tune.

But, to this day, I can't understand the AI appearance.  There was no solo album at that time.  VR was on hiatus.  What was he promoting?  It was funny because it happened a few months after Axl called him a "whore for the limelight" and there he was on TV's biggest show promoting no particular tour or record.  My first thought when I saw him on AI was "he's proving Axl right".

Ali

And, D, no offense, but to compare what Axl did for GTA: San Andreas and Slash's role in Guitar Hero is a bad comparison.  Axl did a relatively minor voice role in the game.  He was not an avatar/character in the game and he was not featured on the cover or in the marketing of the game at all.  I'm not saying Slash is a sell-out for what he did with Guitar Hero, I just think it is a shit comparison.

Also, what GN'R did for Rock Band, which I'm assuming you mean either submitting "Shackler's Revenge" for inclusion prior to the release of CD, or allowing the whole album to be available on Rock Band, is also not at all the same thing as Slash's role in GH.  Another poor comparison, apples and oranges if you will.

Ali

Many of D's points were really bad comparisons.

Comparing a guy acting in a commercial isn't the same as having a song in a commercial that then was never aired on TV.





/jarmo

I can concede that point and really the Guitar Hero/Rockband thing shouldn't count either way due to it being music based.

U can say slash was a character in the game which isn't the same as just having music in the game but back to my point about the state of today's music business. I don't hold it against artist like i use to. in the 90's early 2000's i hated anything like that.. Today.. its ok. If Axl wanted to do a commercial tomorrow, I would support it 100 percent cause today u gotta do what u gotta do.

Plenty of worse decision makers in music history. Im sure we could come up with a hell of a list if we really tried. Vince Neil driving drunk and killing Razzle, Melvins drummer choosing them over Nirvana, Kurt Cobain would have to be at the top of that list as well as many other musicians who died young.

Slash made plenty of great decisions: joining GNR in the first place, adding the top hat which led to his signature look,  the music and solos he added to the band, quitting heroin and drinking etc

sure he has made some terrible ones.. Trying out for Poison..... EEK

but show me someone who hasn't?

Last point I'll make on the breakup

Slash left to try and gain more control/power of the band.. he thought He'd leave, GNR would crumble, Axl would beg  him back and give him what he wanted.. Didn't happen

Axl may have thought Slash would leave, fall on his face and come begging back.... Maybe has came close to happening *goin to Axl's house etc* but it hasn't completely happened.

now its been so long, both are stubborn and neither will give in.

ive read this power/control explanation many times now - where the hell has it come from? Is it just assumptions? until we hear axl's full story i don't think you can state what 'happened' or not. We've only got Slash's side from his book and a couple of axl quotes.

either way D i think your analogies point 10 have some shit to say for it. its interesting how what is essentially the same thing is twisted by fans of either side.

jarmo, the difference you pointed out is irrelevant. "comparing a guy acting in a commercial isn't the same as having a song in a commercial that then was never aired on TV."

The problem with Slash being in a commercial isn't that he acted in it, and that it actually aired. The criticism is that he was willing to 'sell-out' his music and image. That same criticism could be made of axl for licensing the advertisment, even if that was all he did.the analogy stands.

But if you ask me there's no problem with either. the whole notion of 'selling out' is a load of shit. to call slash the worst decision maker is retarded. hes 45, still relevant and rich as f*k.

the worst decision maker is like kurt cobain or something. or that dude that decided to wake ozzy by flying near his tour bus = the end of randy rhoads.

In that case, there's only black or white, no colors in between.

If that's the case, anybody who makes one public appearance is as much an attention whore as the ones who appear at any kind of event that gets them publicity. No matter how lame and irrelevant it is.


I just don't agree with that...


There are more examples. Like, appearing on TV. It's not all the same. Appearing on a talk show with your band playing your new single isn't the same as appearing on a cooking show.



/jarmo

He plugged his solo album on AI.  Sure, it wasn't out at the time but he let the world know he was making one.

As D said, its difficult for a guitar player to remain relevant these days.  Slash doesnt have the Guns n Roses name and he isnt even in an active band at the moment.  Sometimes he probably has to do certain things to keep himself out there.

Of course the mighty U2 were just on AI, so it doesn't have quite the terrible stigma it once did. It basically is trying to expose ur self to a new younger audience.

For the record, I have come around to being on axl's side in the breakup thing. I think it was maybe even more of Slash's fault at this moment in time.

that being said, i don't blame Slash for some of the stuff he did after GNR.

ask yourself this, how many other guitar players get asked to do American Idol or do that huge Michael Jackson concert he did back when MJ was alive at the Garden?

I'm sorry, but that is a desperate reach. He wasn't on AI to promote his at the time non-existent record. His record didn't come out for a year after his AI appearance.

He only served to prove Axl right with the AI appearance. That was just about keepin his name and brand in the limelight and public consciousness.

Ali

How do you know all of this? Not that there was anything wrong with Slash doing it to keep his "name and brand in the limelight". But did he speak to you about the appearance personally?

I know this because you cannot promote a record that doesn't come out for a year. The record didn't exist, and wasn't close to existing at that point. It's called common-sense.

I suspect his appearance was about nothing more than keeping his name in the public consciousness. Whatever else it could be, he wasn't there on behalf of a non-existent (at that point) solo record.

Ali

I still think he was on there to recruit/scout Adam Lambert.

Slash was already working on the record at that point and was talking to fans daily about it and other subjects on twitter.

That's more believable than the notion he was there to promote a record that was a year from coming out.



Yeah, and I'll say it again:  The record didn't come out for a YEAR after the AI appearance.  It had no tracklisting, no release date, no final mix.  The record didn't exist and didn't come out for a year afterwards.  You can't promote a non-existent product.

Ali

I don't think you have to over-analyze it to be honest...

Some people agree with this topic issue, simply because of the strange stuff Slash has done post GN'R. like re-recording Paradice City with Fergie and Cypress Hill, like associating himself with stupid sponsership deals to get himself noticed (Voltswagon). Like playing with anyone and everyone, for instance Ellen to that supermarket staff band.  :hihi:

Some people just think the way they do about Slash, because of all of those factors.

Simple as, it's nothing in depth or some sort of hate campaign.  :D

The fact of the matter is that he did. He had the solo mentioned. He said he was working on it. Someone should have told Slash that he could not promote something before it existed.

If that was Slash's excuse for going on AI - if that's what he said publicly and/or privately - it's a pretty transparent excuse.  No way an appearance that merely mentions a non-existent product will be an effective promotional tool when the product finally comes into existence a YEAR later.  People will have long since forgotten the appearance by the time the product finally came out.

I'll grant him that the Super Bowl appearance could be used to promote solo record sales and tour dates because the Super Bowl appearance came in the middle of the Ozzy tour.  But the appearance on AI?  No way.  Timing is everything.

Ali

Slash did not need an excuse for his appearance on AI. I am simply telling you that he did promote his solo at the time he was on the show. It is my understanding that he appeared during the SB because he felt honored to be asked.

Really? You seem to be making one for him saying he was there to promote his non-existent solo record. It's an excuse, not a valid reason for exactly why I've already stated - no product=nothing to promote.

Ali

I made no excuse I stated a fact. He promoted his solo on AI!

its all a moot point anyway. if AI ask Slash to appear on such and such episode... He can't exactly be picky or selective and say, NAH invite me back next year.

Music business is a shitty dirty game.. U gotta do some shit u don't want but is necessary

remember on Some Kind of Monster when they had Metallica reading that terrible Radio ad and said if they didn't do it, radio would fuck them over on their album? thats Metallica.

Wonder why Chinese Democracy had no hit singles in the US? not cause the material but cause Axl didn't play the game.

it isn't bout quality of anything anymore and that is sad.

Slash's plan was originally to release his record way earlier by the way. so the promoting thought/AI is fine.

Im probably risking starting a huge argument here... but if you cant promote a record that isn't coming out for a year, well then why on earth were Guns N Roses touring in 2002, 2006 etc  when CD wasnt released until late 2008.

By the logic above, they were obviously just touring for money and/or exposure?

Everyone makes mistakes first off Slash use to be a bad drug addict last time I checked people that had problems with drugs tend to not make the best decisions. Slash has a big ego like every well liked rock star nothing new about him wanting to take the spot light but yeah I admit Slash has made a few uncool decisions in the past.

The Glee idea would not have been a bad idea simply to reach out to the younger generation of kids that arent rebels. Even though I have no interest in the show at all because high school is enough drama and that show seems to feed off it  :hihi:

apples and oranges once again.  Metallica had to "play the game" to get their record played.  Their art was not being compromised.  "Death Magnetic" is a great record, and did not hurt their credibility.  You didn't see James Hetfield on stage with Fergie or T-Pain for Christs sake!!!  You will never see that.  You can critique their albums anyway you want, but they will never be caught dead in some cheesy super bowl spot.  You don't have to do these lame publicity stunts  to sell records.  Metallica sells more records than EVERYONE, and have for the last 20 years.  "Death Magnetic" sold half a million in a 2 day sales week in 2008 (it came out on a friday) and debuted at the top of the Billboard Charts and stayed there for a month.

It was definitely painful to watch Slash on the same stage as T-Pain and Foxx and whomever else. It's painful to listen to anything Metallica has released since the black album though in my opinion. They are a shell of what they used to be, and I understand that the same thing can be said about most bands, especially bands lucky enough to stay together as long as they have. Death Magnetic was a decent attempt, but I don't think I'll revisit it anytime soon. Everything they have put out since 1991 is completely forgettable. Point is, I'll deal with watching Slash get on stage with a tragedy like T-Pain every now and again if he's also going to put out quality records. Something Metallica lost interest in doing long ago. Better yet though, I'll try and avoid the Fergie collaborations, and stick to buying the records!

Metallica doesn't have that fire on stage anymore either. Megadeth continue to blow them off the stage, even with Mustaine's revolving lineups.

Metalica is Metalica they do not need to get there name in public to sell their product everyone knows the name already. If they needed to you might see James working with Fergie or T-Pain. The funny thing is their fans might not even know who James is. They might have to be told "James is from Metalica". As far as the SB they have not been asked and Slash was.

Yeah but they're Metallica.  They are one of the biggest metal bands of all time.  And Guns N Roses are a huge band too, one of the best of all time.  Bands with such a reputation can sell records and stadiums by name alone.  

Whereas Slash is a solo guitar player at the moment.  He doesnt have the resources of such a huge brand name to back him.  He didnt have a label and a major PR campaign.  So what can he do?  Well, if you have the contacts appearing at the grammies and on AI to promote your work is a good idea.  But there is always a chance that the organisers are gonna want a Guns song.  

The point is, its a lot more difficult to promote your music when your a solo guitar player then when your in an already huge band.  

Very interesting view on Metallica.  I feel that Metallica is one of the few bands to NOT lose it with age.   I for one  rank "Death Magnetic" on the same level as their first 5 records.  I will give you that St Anger was terrible, but if you took the top 12 songs off of the "Load" and "Re-Load" albums and made them one album you have another record on par with the first 5.   I also saw Metallica 5 times on the "Death Magnetic" tour, they are a fucking machine on stage.  While the Load years are my least favorite, there is that evolving thing again that I love, they proved they are not just a thrash band like Slayer.  Are there last few albums as good as the first 5?  No, but whose is?  Whose records are as good as the first 5 Metallica albums?  While they are not as good, there are songs on there like "My Apacolypse", "All Nightmare Long", "This was just your Life", "Fuel", "Devils Dance" that are all just as good, and mix into their sets perfectly.

Is that a bad thing that T-Pain fans might not know who James is?  James would put a bullet in his head before he worked with T-Pain, and you know it.

My whole point was Metallica doesn't let their art suffer, you wont be seeing B-Real do a guest spot on any Metallica record, because they have integrity.  People call the Load/Re-Load records sell out records, but they were still heavier than most "heavy" music that came out in the 90's, besides Pantera.


How many guest spots have you seen members of Metallica do in the last 30 years?  There is an unwritten rule in Metallica that you live, eat and breathe Metallica.  Thats why they gave Jason so much shit for wanting to do a side project.  James wouldn't allow it.  That is a good thing in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I love Metallica, I just haven't been impressed w/their recent work. I really enjoyed Death Magnetic the first time I listened to it, but it didn't stick. I think it was the lyrics I couldn't get past. They are one of the best heavy metal bands of all time no matter what they put out as far as I'm concerned. Kill em All through And Justice for All are epics.

I saw them a couple years ago, and it was definitely a good show. It's probably not fair to compare them to Megadeth, live.
I agree about Slayer. I really felt bad for them. When I caught the Rust in Peace tour, Slayer was the headliner for some reason. 2 of my friends fell asleep during their set.

eh, Load and Re-Load dont have to be mentioned. the black album was the first step reaching a wider audience for Metallica - when the first 4 albums more have been Speed Metal. Remember Lars Ulrich saying never doing videoclips? tons of stuff like that from Metallica....that much about integrity of Metallica  :hihi:

live.....i dont think loosing Newsted/getting the Sucidal T. bass player was a good step + Hetfield's voice is shot most of the time.
gotta add that Lars U. is one of the uncoolest guys in metal/hard rock to me.

and Slayer are just allmighty Slayer....more sticking true to their musical roots than bands like Metallica, Megadeth or GN'R. Slayer always have been more aggressive and brutal, thats what they think their place is.

Worst decision maker in rock history --->  Lars Ulrich! 

Im sorry but suing your own fans is pretty low regardless of the circumstances.

I think Lars' bank account might disagree with your worst decision maker title you want to give him.  The dude shits gold, Metallica has done just about everything right the past 30 years.  I agreed with him then about Napster and I still do. You can't just walk into a Best Buy and take anything you want, why is it ok to do it over the computer?  I believe in paying an artist for their work, albums are so cheap there is no excuse to steal them.

Yes, they were touring for money and/or exposure or just to get out on the road and tour.  They were not promoting CD since it was still years away from release.

Ali

He was promoting a product that at the time didn't exist?   ::)  If you say so.  I'm sure that promotional appearance was fresh in consumers' minds a year later when the record actually came out  : ok:

Ali

I guess it is Metalica's loss if that is how they feel. I'm sorry I do not see the problem with musicans working out of their comfort zone. That is what makes them grow and that is what Slash does and will continue to do. If it bothers you this much don't buy anymore of his music because things are not going to be different with him. And I can only hope that James would not put a bullet through his head for any reason. His wife and children might take exception. ;)

It was fresh in my mind!

Some of you are missing the point of the thread here.  I am a huge fan of Slash.  He is just making shitty fucking decisions lately, and it is frustrating.  If he weren't making albums I liked it would be so much easier to ditch his ass, but the truth is I thought the solo album was really good.  It is frustrating as a fan of Slash to see him continue to embarrass himself.  This streak of bad decisions he is on is not something that just us on the boards are talking about, it is a pop culture reference now thanks to South Park picking it up.  I'm sure the guys from South Park have not analyzed every decision Slash has made the last decade, but they certainly saw enough to realize he is being fucking lame lately. 

I really do not think it is a serious as you think. I mean even Slash thought it was funny after all.

i never said it was serious, it was a light hearted jab at him, I don't think it was that serious at all.   It's the fact that Slash's was on their radar that is the problem  It shows that people are noticing his shitty collaborations, and South Park did kind of make it look pathetic what with him playing the mall and birthday parties.

ONce again Bodhi u come off like u know very little about "BRANDING"

Metallica sell out stadiums cause they are a HUGE BRAND

Take Bret Michaels for example. When he plays with Poison they still sell out 10 thousand seat arenas. When He goes out with Bret Micheals band, he plays 1000 seat clubs or bars.

Its about the BRAND

Slash doesn't have Guns  N Roses brand anymore. Axl kept the GNR name cause its his but also cause its a huge name BRAND.

In GNR Slash was super famous.. On his own just as Slash, he has to now build a whole new separate brand. Same reason Steven Tyler is doing American Idol and working on "Brand Tyler" Aerosmith he is a megastar cause of the brand aerosmith. if he goes out as just "Steven Tyler" he wouldn't get anywhere the crowd or response


Shit look at Eddie Vedder. does his solo stuff do remotely close to Pearl Jam? Of course not.

BRAND

what does branding have to do with playing with Jamie Foxx and T-Pain, or The Black Eyed Peas?  Why can't he BRAND himself with some respectable artists?  I love how you keep using the branding bullshit, Slash does not have to brand himself, he is synonymous with the Guns N Roses name, forever.  Everyone on this earth who follows rock music and a lot of people who dont, KNOW who Slash is, you keep acting like he is this dude who has to get his name out there.  Why can't you just acknowledge that he is disrespecting himself and his fan base the last few years.  I started this thread because I am a fan of Slash, I am not a hater, I just wish he would stop making a fool out of himself.

You are also the one who brought Metallica into the discussion, however when I make a counterpoint involving them all of the sudden they are not relevant to the discussion anymore.

He is trying to get exposed to a younger audience who may buy his solo album that was coming out.

If u read the entire post, u would see that some of the biggest frontmen/bands in the world aren't so big without the BRAND NAME.


Does Eddie Vedder sell out stadiums when he does solo tours?

U are the type of fan that drives me nuts..

same hypocritical bullshit on this forum

with Axl, when we moan,bitch,complain about lack of updates,communication, singles,videos, tours etc... what is always said? Axl doesn't owe u anything, he does stuff on his terms how he wants etc etc etc

with Slash though, its the same thing.. If he wants to play with Lady Gaga or Katy Perry... i don't give a shit. I don't necessarily like it, but he has earned the right to do whatever he wants. he shouldn't disappear and do nothing just to fulfill some nerd fantasy legacy people want to place on him. he is who he is, i accept that just as i accept Axl for the way he chooses to conduct his business. its their life, their careers. let them do what they want with them


Slash has done great things but U choose to focus on the few bad things. Having Legends like Ozzy,Cornell,Iggy Pop,Ian,  currents stars like M Shadows,Dave Grohl,Kid Rock is a cool as fuck awesome thing that shows how respected he is by his peers.

He has nothing to apologize for.

Slash could go on tour with Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus and the little chick who had that song "Friday" still doesn't change the fact that he wrote some of the greatest riffs,solos and songs of all time. his legacy is untouchable.

In mine too, bit NOT because of the AI appearance. It was because of the great choice for the lead single, mainly, as well as some of the press he was doing.

Ali

If he wants to expose himself to a younger audience, why is he choosing shit artists to do that with?  You are not getting it man.  Sebastian Bach has been branding himself a lot lately, but is he doing lame shit with Fergie?? No.  He has been performing with Asking Alexandria, a huge up and coming young metalcore/hard rock band.  It makes sense, because they are a heavy band and when he performs "Youth Gone Wild" with them its fucking GOOD, it doesnt sound like contrived crossover bullshit.  It made sense for Slash to perform with Avenged Sevenfold, they are a young band with a heavy GNR influence who is way more successful than he is right now, so he reaches a lot of fans who might be interested in his music,  that is good branding in my opinion.  It makes no sense to appear with T-Pain if he wants to get his music out there, his fans will never buy a Slash album.

I guess it's difficult for some to see the difference in promoting your product (the album, the tour, the book, the top hats) and promoting yourself.


A lot of artists go on TV to promote their products. It's what people "expect" of them. Late night talk shows, in-store appearances, interviews etc.

That's not weird.


But then you have people who have nothing to promote. They're just "famous" for "nothing". They need to keep their name out there. So they have to do something.


Slash seems to be a mix of both these worlds.

When he has nothing to promote, he'll go out to promote himself.

And then some of the stuff he does seems like it might be promoting a product, but it makes some people wonder....






/jarmo

but at least fans have a chance to see/hear him frequently.....this is smth. important for lots of fans.

Yeah, it's important for some to have something to cling on to at all times.





/jarmo

Im not defending everything he does. There are lots of things he does i absolutely shake my head at and i hate. but i try to see or give him the benefit of the doubt as to why he is doing it.


Bodhi, are u really going to use Baz in this argument, the dude who has been on 5 million reality shows? A freaking weight loss show when he is able to run 5 miles? I love Baz but come on.. terrible comparison.

but lately I don't see him pissing all over his art, he is playing with and associating himself with respectable metal bands.

You might want to have a look at the Sebastian Bach thread...

He just played with Steel Panther, who he openly critisized and called "a joke", a few years ago.

I love Baz, but I don't think you can say he is honourable in always sticking to his word, if we take the above example. And then also add the Poison example as well, where he never had a good word to say about Bret, until he got offered to play with them on a tour...

I actually agree with you sentiments about the Slash issue, but I don't agree with what you said about Baz. I think what Baz has done over the years, can be compared to Slash, but not in the same way. My problem with Slash has always been him using the GN'R essence or brand if you like, to further his own career, while not caring about GN'R still existing and touring, when he chose to leave in the first place.

yeah but Steel Panther IS a joke, they are a parody band.  It's also no secret that have no respect for Poison whatsoever, but compared to the people that Slash has been playing with, BREAL, Black Eyed Peas, T-Pain, Poison is like the Beatles.

Baz and his tv shows....pure integrity, sure  :hihi:

Bodhi, we got it for some time now that you dont like some of Slash's decisions. but you cant do anything about -except the moaning here-....why not move on?  ;)

plus i think slash may be too nice and non confrontational

It isn't like he seeked some of these people out but when someone calls and asks u to play at the grammys or do this or that.. sometimes its hard to tell people no.

We've all experienced that where someone u really don't wanna talk or hang with invites u out and u are kind of in a hard place.. so u go so u won't come off like an asshole.

same thing here imo.

They call Slash and ask to perform with them at the grammys.. if he says no, he looks like a douche and a complete asshole in their eyes... word gets around etc..

If Slash had disappeared after GNR and only came out to do those dreadful collaborations, then I could probably see some posters points about living off the past, or whore for the limelight etc.

In reality though, that's the furthest thing from the truth. He has been very productive since original Guns.
If any of the alumni can be accused of living off of the past, it isn't Slash.

I'm not going to dis Bach for what he does. He is a professional musician and does what he has to stay relevent and to continue working. Just as other musicians that are discussed on the forums. But to use him in an argument to make a point against Slash is absurd. If that is your best shot you have already lost the war.

Slash announced in February that he and Myles will be doing an album together. He has been promoting it in interviews and on twitter. We already know that it is in pre production, who will be playing on it, how many songs they are working on, and recently was told it will be out in March or April of 2012. If Slash can find a venue to mention this album to 30 million people at one time he will do it. And he would have done it given the chance in March or April of this year.

isnt that one of the points of this board, to bitch and moan about things we can't control?  Have you actually read any posts in the GNR section on this board?  :hihi:

On a serious note, as long as Slash puts out good music, I look past a lot of things.  My main reason for starting this thread was because of HIM, we will not be getting a hard hitting record with Corey Taylor(a very diverse musician as evident by Slipknot, Stone Sour and other projects) who everyone else in VR is a huge fan of.  No, we will be getting 12-15 tracks similar to the 2 weakest ones on his solo album, right in his comfort zone.  To me that has the potential to be painfully boring, especially compared to what could have been, VR going in a heavier direction, which was the plan for the last 3 years.

I'm just as ticked about VR as you. And I was happy Corey was going to be the man. But there is no reason to imply that Slash does not want to leave his comfort zone. When he is constantly trying new things.  If he was interested in staying with his comfort zone Slash would have went with Corey and the comfort of a sure thing in VR. Instead he has gone for a situation were there is no guarantee of success. He will also have to work twice as hard to promote his new album than he would have getting a new VR album out.

I don't doubt he would have.  But, I see no comparison between making an announcement an album is pre-production to going on one of the highest rated shows in the US to make a "promotional" appearance.  An announcement is not a form of promotion, absent an at least somewhat defined product.

Ali

I see what your saying, but i feel the Myles thing is more in his comfort zone.  The pressure to put out a great record with Corey would have been huge.  Here with Myles he can just put out a typical "Slash Rock N Roll" record, some critics will dig it, some will want more, it will do ok and he will tour small venues and sell most of them out.    I'll be a first day buyer of the record as always and go to the local shows.  Same old shit, been there done that.  It really would have been cool to give rock n roll a shot in the arm, like VR did in 04.

Bodhi bro seriously, u have contradicted yourself a bunch in this thread.

First using Sebastian Bach of all people as a counter argument against Slash when the guy appeared on Rap and Country superstar reality shows.


Now, u are saying Slash LIVES in his comfort zone but yet bash him when he collaborates with different styles of musicians.


Also, ur attitude drives me absolutely insane.

Already saying an album that has yet to even be recorded sucks is just ridiculous. U can't say that. If u get the album and it sucks, then fine, come on here and bash the shit out of it,but hell it could be Appetite like for all u know.

you are twisting my words.  I said Sebastian Bach has been RECENTLY branding himself and doing a good job of it.  Im talking about as in the last few months in preparation for this new album.  I was using one example of him playing with a really good young metal band , not everything he has done in his entire career!

Slash "collaborating" with artists in different styles of musicians is a stretch.  He walks on stage and plays a GNR riff to some type of hip hop beat, how is that leaving his comfort zone?  Hes not playing a new style of music, he is playing the same riff in a different setting.   The only time ive heard him leave his comfort zone was on the song he did with M. Shadows, and it was the best song on the record in my opinion.  Even there he didn't really change his guitar tone to sound like a metal song like it was supposed to be, it kind of sounded like GNR Slash guesting on an Avenged song but without changing any of his effects or amp settings.   But still it was at least little different.

Also Im not saying the whole new record is going to suck, Im saying based off of what we heard him do with Myles, which was lackluster to say the least, I'm not super stoked about this album.  Its not like we haven't heard him play with Myles before, we have and it wasn't that good.

You're passing that off as a fact though. Some, myself included, enjoyed the Myles songs.
Ironically, I skip the M. Shadows track to get to Starlight. Nothing to Say isn't a bad song in my opinion, I thought it was interesting. Sounds more like Slash's take on Megadeth to me than it does a Avenged Sevenfold song. Either way, I don't feel the need to revisit it too often. Sounds sort of like an experiment that didn't totally work out. Overall, I skip Ghost, Beautiful Dangerous and Nothing to Say.

I will say that the most interesting part of Back to Cali is easily the music. Lyrics aren't exactly earth shattering. Myles does a good job of staying out of the way. Just a good straight ahead rock song. I think he sings great, and adds a lot to Starlight. The first time I heard it, I thought it sounded like he was reaching a bit, but I think it's a solid tune. I would still be very interested in hearing what Cornell could have done with it, rather than the more Audioslave sounding Promise, but can't win em all.

I would love to hear an album with a sound similar to AFD and Aerosmith Rocks. That's the kind of album I think of when Slash mentions "heavy". I don't think he was ever thinking Slipknot or Avenged Sevenfold heavy, because that's not his bag, and I frankly am not interested in hearing his take on that direction. And yes, I know Myles doesn't belong on the same internet as Axl and Tyler. I'm not expecting him to put his stamp on the album like they did. I'm more talking musically, and hope that Myles can hold his own, or not get in the way.

I liked "Back from Cali"...I thought Myles sang really well on that song.   I wasn't crazy about the song "Starlight" but I think the best part is easily the chorus, thanks to Myles.   I think this album with Myles could be much more of a solid rock album, but I'm not expecting it to be larger than life either.   And I agree with the others on here that are saying Myles doesn't have an ego and basically lets Slash be the star.   I also think Myles sounds better with Slash than with Alter Bridge...so it is the closest thing to having him in VR, which I wanted.

So would u say AC/DC sucks or live in their comfort zone?

I don't know whats wrong with that actually.

 When people chase trends and try to be something they aren't, thats usually when they fall by the wayside. Slash is who he is, he isn't fake and i respect that even if i don't agree with all he does.

I thought the Super bowl and the Paradise City remake were absolutely atrocious BUT, I am not gonna hold it against him.


Big Props to Jarmo and the Mods for letting this thread stay alive. great debate/discussion here.

And what would you hold against him? What does he have to do for you to go "ok, that's it. Enough already!"?





/jarmo

well i hold it against him at the time but realize there is nobody on the planet, whether its my mom,brothers or friends i agree 100 percent on everything. his book made me go from blaming Axl for the breakup to now being Pro Axl and now thinking Slash has more of the blame for it.

so he has definitely lost some luster but not enough to erase all the greatness and influence he has had in my life.

hmm......


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SLASH's Contribution To 'Phineas And Ferb The Movie': First Image Released - July 13, 2011

Legendary guitarist Slash (GUNS N' ROSES, VELVET REVOLVER) recently wrote and performed the song "Kick It Up A Notch" for what his calls his "guilty pleasure," Disney Channel's original movie "Phineas And Ferb The Movie: Across The 2nd Dimension", which is scheduled to premiere on Friday, August 5 (8:00 p.m., ET/PT) on Disney Channel and Saturday, August 13 (8:00 p.m., ET/PT) on Disney XD. Slash will also appear in the animated video to launch the movie, which he describes as "very rock and roll, even for a cartoon."

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That totally hurts my argument :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

I dunno... Slash has never made a secret of being a huge Disney fan.

I know if I was a famous musician, and a company like Pixar asked me to contribute to their next movie, I'd jump at the chance without worrying about a paycheck. Just because being a part of what will surely be something I will love would be too good to pass up.

There've been a lot of poor decisions made by Slash, true. But I don't think Phineas And Ferb is one... I wouldn't do that particular one, granted. But then I'm not nearly the fan of it that he is.

just checked this video "Kick It Up A Notch" / Disney Channel's original movie "Phineas And Ferb The Movie: Across The 2nd Dimension":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rF_lPMNa9jw

behind the scenes footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mfqqawS6kc&feature=player_embedded

sceptical first, but i really like it! his guitar playing rocks in there, so does his animation. maybe he gets kids more into rock/hardrock/metal with this which i do support 100%! in the end he is in for entertaining and this is a good part of it!

Can't say I'm into Phineas and Ferb - never watched them and not familiar with it, but that was kind of a cool and fun video. 

I've avoided this topic, for obvious reasons, but I don't think he's the worst decision maker in rock history.  I don't think that's a fair statement, at all.  Seems to me that he likes to keep himself busy with a variety of things and always has appeared with all kinds of different people.  He seems to keep an open mind about things, too.  I don't think there's anything wrong with that.  I don't think he's out to impress any of us here.  He chooses what he wants to do and does it.  Is it shameless self-promotion?  Can't answer for him, and so what if it were?  That's his business.  The decisions he's made certainly haven't hurt him any.   

of course hes not the WORST decision maker in rock, that is Steven Adler.  But this is a great thread to point out all the dumb shit he does, which was the purpose in the first place. 

We all do dumb shit, though, don't we?  And based on your response, here, the answer to the topic question would be "no". 

I think you might be taking all of this too literally.  This thread was started for fans to vent about dumb or lame decisions Slash has been making in recent years, the Corey Taylor one is the one that finally pushed me over the edge.  This is a good thread to keep all of his shitty decisions in one place, as opposed to multiple threads... With that in mind....

SLASH Records Track With MARY J. BLIGE - Aug. 11, 2011
Legendary guitarist Slash (VELVET REVOLVER, ex-GUNS N' ROSES), who is currently working on material for his forthcoming, second solo album, "just finished a session with Mike Clink engineering on a track with [R&B singer] Mary J. Blige," according to a posting on the guitarist's Facebook page. Slash adds, "Sounds killer!"

It is not presently clear where Slash's collaboration with Mary J. Blige will end up.

Moreblack posted this on another forum today;

Gibson took the time to acknowledge the work the guy has done outside of his main projects and it's quite the impressive list.
 http://www.gibson.co...lash-0726-2011/
 
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Gun for Hire: Slash?s Career as an All-Star Sideman
 Michael Leonard
 

Slash has been the guitar star for Guns N? Roses, Snakepit, Velvet Revolver and, currently, his own ?solo? band. But Slash also has played sessions that would make many guitarists-for-hire weep. Sure, the fame of his name got him many gigs, but Slash?s session story is a whole world in itself: 2004 and 2007 are the only years since 1988 when Slash hasn?t guested on at least one other artist?s recordings.
 
From rock to metal, from blues to R&B, from hip-hop to pop, Slash?s Gibson Les Pauls have been places you wouldn?t necessarily know. And not on other songs you thought he was on.
 
Here?s a selected rundown of recordings where artists have decided the missing ingredient is Mr. Saul Hudson.
 
With Alice Cooper?
 
Guns had only just hit big when Slash made his first guest apperance in 1988?s The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years, appearing on ?Under My Wheels? by Alice Cooper. Slash later spilled some insane guitar wailing on Cooper?s ?Vengeance is Mine.? He also played on Cooper?s ?Hey Stoopid? and on the live album, A Fistful of Alice.
 
With Michael Jackson?
 
The King of Pop and Slash were unlikely friends. After Jackson?s death, Slash even described himself and MJ as ?very similar people, it was always all about the music.? That said, Slash also was at pains to clarify what he did and did not contribute to Jackson hits. Speaking to CNN in 2010, Slash said of a popular misconception: ?I never played on ?Black or White.? I played on ?Give in to Me? [also from Jackson?s Dangerous album] and in the ?Black and White? video, when Macaulay Culkin was trashing around, that?s me playing.? ?Black or White??s recorded guitars are played by co-writer Bill Botrell and the solo by L.A. session player Tim Pierce.
 
But Slash did famously play with MJ on a medley at the MTV Video Music Awards in 1995. Slash also played on that year?s ?They Don?t Care About Us? and ?D.S.? and ?Morphine? (from the 1997 remix album Blood on the Dancefloor.)
 
With Lenny Kravitz?
 
Slash was a key ingredient on Kravitz?s sophomore album of 1991, Mama Said. The music for ?Always on the Run? was written by Slash for Guns N' Roses? Use Your Illusion albums but Guns? then-drummer Steven Adler apparently had difficulty playing it. So, Slash kept the tune on stand-by until he hooked-up with Kravitz.
 
?Working with Lenny was great, and if the opportunity again presented itself, we could come up with some more great music,? Slash revealed on his own www.snakepit.org site. Slash also played on Mama Said?s ?Fields of Joy.?
 
Kravitz and Slash attended the same school years before. ?I knew [Slash] from the hallway, just like, ?Hey, what?s up, man??? Kravitz told Details. ?We didn't meet again until the American Music Awards in 1990. He came up to me and told me that Guns N' Roses were big fans of Let Love Rule. In fact, Axl had a button on his leather jacket that said LET LOVE RULE. We started talking, and I realized he was that kid named Saul from high school.?
 
With Gilby Clarke?
 
Clarke?s 1994 solo album featured not only Slash, but Axl Rose, Matt Sorum and Duff McKagan. All starred on different Clarke tracks which may say something about the internal relationships of Guns at the time. Slash plays on two of Pawnshop Guitars strongest tracks, ?Cure Me? or Kill Me...? and ?Tijuana Jail.? Clarke, of course, then ended up playing in Slash?s band Snakepit, contributing ?Monkey Chow? to the band?s album It?s Five O?Clock Somewhere.
 
With Iggy Pop?
 
Slash and Iggy go way back. In fact, Slash?s mother once dated David Bowie, via whom the young Saul Hudson got to know the older Jim Osterberg. ?Home,? on Iggy?s 1990 album Brick by Brick album, is the main notable collaboration, with Slash?s guitar work lifting a rather perfunctory song. Iggy eventually returned the favor, singing on Slash?s ?We?re All Gonna Die? on his 2010 solo debut album.
 
With TLC, Eazy-E, Insane Clown Posse and the Bee Gees
 
The early-to-mid-?90s may have found Slash bored. He dropped-in celeb solos and licks for TLC (?Red Light Special?), Eazy E (?Luv 4 Dem Gangsta?z?), Insane Clown Posse (?Halls of Illusions?) and even The Bee Gees (?Size Isn?t Everything?).

With Chic?
 
This was only a live Japanese date in 1999, but it?s a bizarre union nonetheless. The disco legends already boast one of the world?s greatest funk guitarists in production/writing mastermind Nile Rodgers, but Slash was called upon anyway.
 
With The Yardbirds?
 
The British blues rave-up band of the 1960s boasted Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck in their lineup at various times so when it came to a reunion album, they wanted stellar players. Slash, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Johnny Rzeznik, Jeff ?Skunk? Baxter and Brian May all were guests on 2003?s Birdland album.
 
With other ex-Gunners?
 
Slash and Gilby Clarke (see above) worked together plenty, but Slash also found time to play on GN?R bassist Duff McKagan?s albums Believe in Me (1993, on the title track and ?Just Not There?) and Beautiful Disease (1999, on the tracks ?Hope? and ?Mezz.?) Izzy Stradlin also played on Beautiful Disease. Most of these tracks are throwbacks to Guns? punk-metal beginnings and could have been great Guns material except they don?t feature Axl Rose.
 
Slash also played on Matt Sorum?s 2003 Hollywood Zen album (on ?The Blame Game.?)
 
With everyone else?!
 
Proving he?s never one to turn down an invitation, Slash has also guested with Ray Charles, Edgar Winter, Eric Clapton, Cheap Trick, Sammy Hagar, Mot?rhead, Bob Dylan, Blackstreet, The Rolling Stones? Ronnie Wood, Daughtry and on various movie/video game soundtracks.
 
The strange fact is Slash has recorded/appeared live on nearly 80 tracks by other artists, more than he recorded for the first five Guns N? Roses albums, even including Lies. Slash will next guest on Unusual Suspects, the September release from Mountain guitarist Leslie West.
 
We guess that if Slash never does find another permanent singer, a singer will always find him.

Who honestly gives a shit about a guitar player playing some guitar for various artists? 
Im a fan of Slash's music/projects.... couldnt give a shit what he does outside of that.

You're right, you can pick and choose what you like from him, or any artist.  The point is though, there is a LOT on Slash's resume that his "fans" don't find all that appealing.  It doesn't take away from his greatness.  If you're going to do as much as Slash, you're gonna have some misses.  They can't all be homeruns.  I could care less about most of his pop collaborations, so I just don't listen to them.  But it doesn't take away the fact that he did them.  That's all.  I wouldn't take any of this stuff too personal.

Agree.  Maybe when I was younger it would of upset me cos I cared more about what others thought of my favourite artists back then.  If somebody thinks he is lame for playing with a certain artist, thats their own choice i guess.   

The only decision i really didnt like was doing PC with Cypress Hill.  Awful stuff   :hihi:

At the end of the day he's gotta do whats best for himself and his family and make sure the lifestyle they are use to living  they can continue to live. And I'm sure that he probably enjoys doing various ventures and not just the same ol thing all the time. I dont really like him playing with cartoon characters or the superbowl halftime show w/ black eyed peas but it really doesnt bother me or make me hate him lol.. i kinda giggle at those that it does bother  :hihi: I went and saw him last fall with Myles Kennedy and it was a kick ass rock and roll show. thats what I enjoy about slash, I love his guitar playing, Im a huge fan of the music he has created for the last 25 years and could care less what the next person thinks. I actually doooo have friends that like to give me a hard time because I like " 80's rock" but i dont care lol..and in reality they dont either

judging by the delightful decoration of his home, I'll say yes.