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Title: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: MR.BROWNSTONE on June 21, 2003, 03:13:46 PM
Mike Tyson was arrested early Saturday after a brawl with two men outside a Brooklyn hotel and was charged with assault and disorderly conduct.

The former heavyweight champion was treated for minor cuts to his hands after the two men apparently retrieved some type of pole from the hotel lobby and used it against him, police said. They had no further information on the pole.

The brawl broke out about 5:30 a.m. outside the hotel where Tyson was staying, police said. They did not immediately have information on what started the fight.

The Brooklyn district attorney's office said Tyson was expected to be arraigned late Saturday or early Sunday.

Shelly Finkel, adviser to the 36-year-old Brooklyn-born boxer, did not know any of the details of the confrontation.
"I don't know anything except what I heard this morning," Finkel said. "I'm in the process of trying to find out."

Finkel said he spoke to Tyson on Tuesday, and the boxer said he planned to travel to Phoenix.
The two other men in the brawl also were arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. Police identified one as Nestor Alvarez, 24, but they did not identify the other.

One of the two men and a woman who was with them were taken to Bellevue Hospital and treated for minor injuries, police said. Tyson was not taken to the hospital.
Tyson, with a long history of legal trouble, was convicted of rape in 1992 and was sentenced to six years in prison. He served three years before being released on parole.

In a Fox television interview last month, Tyson said he was so angry about the conviction he wanted to rape his accuser, former beauty pageant contestant Desiree Washington, and her mother.
In 1997, he bit off a piece of Evander Holyfield's ear during a bout. Tyson's Nevada boxing license was suspended for a year, and he was fined $3 million. In 1999, he was released from a Maryland jail after serving 3 1/2 months for assaulting the two motorists.

Last year, he threw a punch at Lennox Lewis' bodyguard at a news conference announcing a fight between the two, setting off a brawl between Tyson and Lewis.


Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: MR.BROWNSTONE on February 06, 2004, 03:12:56 PM
Lennox Lewis retires as heavyweight champ, and means it.

Lennox Lewis is going out on top, and he insists he won't be back. He retired Friday after a professional career of more than 14 years, the first active heavyweight champion to quit in nearly 50 years.

The 38-year-old boxer said that after months of deliberation he decided to leave the ring rather than defend his WBC title in a rematch against Vitali Klitschko.
``It's a special day in my life,'' Lewis said at a news conference. ``I'd like to announce that June 21, 2003, was my last fight as a professional boxer.''

``It has been a great honor to be the standard bearer of boxing for the last decade,'' he added. ``Let the next era begin.''

Lewis has a 41-1-2 record and is the first reigning world heavyweight champion to quit since Rocky Marciano in 1956. The only other to do so was Gene Tunney in 1928.

``I've completed all my goals and now it's time for me say goodbye,'' Lewis said. ``I definitely wanted to say goodbye at the top and now I am at the top.''

Lewis paid tribute to his idol, Muhammad Ali, who retired with the WBA title in 1978 but came back to lose fights to Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick.

``I will definitely be the third boxer to retire as heavyweight champion, I promise you that,'' Lewis said in ruling out a comeback.

Lewis reportedly has plans to pursue his interest in hip-hop and rap music by promoting bands and producing records and concerts. He said he has accepted a position at a sports management agency.

Lewis, Britain's first world heavyweight champion in more than a century, fought just twice in the last 26 months. He knocked out former undisputed champion Mike Tyson in eight rounds in Memphis, Tenn., in June 2002.

``Mike Tyson was my ultimate fight,'' Lewis said. ``That was the fight that kept me around for a long time. I didn't want to go out without facing him. I didn't want people to say that Mike Tyson was the best around.''

He also defeated Klitschko in Los Angeles last June. Lewis was behind on points when the fight was stopped in the sixth round because Klitschko was cut. The WBC mandated a rematch and ordered Lewis to agree to the fight by March 1 or risk being stripped of the title.

Lewis hadn't even told HBO what he planned to do. The television network paid him millions to fight and had been waiting for months for him to commit to a second Klitschko fight. Lewis said he made up his mind two weeks ago in New York.

``I was thinking about it for a long time. Should I go back in and have one more fight?'' he said. ``But I realized this is the drug of the sport. There is always one more fight and somebody to fight. I didn't want to get caught up in it, and I thought that this is the time when I should gracefully bow out.

``I respect the sport of boxing. Boxing has done so much for me and one of the reasons I am retiring is out of respect for the sport. It's time for the younger generation.''

Lewis leaves a legacy of big wins over Tyson and Evander Holyfield, but also a reputation for aloofness that never allowed him to connect with boxing fans outside Britain and Canada, where he grew up.

With Lewis retired, Klitschko is expected to meet No. 2 contender Corrie Sanders for the WBC title. Lewis said the Klitschko brothers, Vitali and Wladimir, Sanders and another British fighter, 2000 Olympic super-heavyweight champion Audley Harrison, were the most likely to succeed him as WBC champion.

``The challenge is out to them to do what I've done over the past decade,'' Lewis said.

A heavyweight who stood 6-foot-5 but had the boxing skills of a smaller man, Lewis won an Olympic gold medal for Canada in Seoul, South Korea, in 1988 and went on to win the heavyweight title three times. Despite his impressive record, Lewis' performances tended to be plodding rather than inspiring.

His two knockout losses -- to Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman -- were major upsets, but he went on to beat both in rematches. His one draw came against Holyfield in a fight most observers felt Lewis won. He later beat Holyfield on points to become undisputed champion.

Lewis became Britain's first major world heavyweight champion since the 1880s when Riddick Bowe relinquished the WBC crown in 1992, dumping the belt in a trash can. Lewis retained the title in the ring a year later by beating Tony Tucker and became undisputed champion in 1999 when he won a rematch with Holyfield.

Despite Lewis' insistence that his retirement was final, British bookmaker William Hill offered odds of 7-2 that he will fight again within two years.


Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: the dirt on February 06, 2004, 04:09:06 PM
Hmm

Vitali would've killed him in a rematch, though


Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on February 06, 2004, 08:19:55 PM
vitali had no chance against lennox

lewis almost knocked his eye out of the socket and he wasnt even in shape, if lewis was in shape he wouldve killed vitali


Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on February 09, 2004, 09:36:04 PM
mike tyson announced today that he is stepping back in the ring,

tyson vs jones jr, i think its gonna happen, i think tyson will kick his fuckin ass he has to much power


Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: the dirt on February 13, 2004, 01:44:57 PM
mike tyson announced today that he is stepping back in the ring,

tyson vs jones jr, i think its gonna happen, i think tyson will kick his fuckin ass he has to much power

I don't think so, D. Jones is way too fast for Tyson... I don't think he'll be able to keep up.


(So far does'nt look like we agree on much in the boxing world, eh ;))


Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on February 14, 2004, 02:08:19 PM
jones is fast but tyson isnt a statue, tyson can move plus royjones has never been hit as hard in his life as tyson will hit him, he's never took a blow nowhere near the power of tyson

vitali had no chance against lennox lewis come on dude, lewis knocked vitali's eye damn near out of its socket, vitali was goin down when the referee stopped it, lewis was pounding his ass and he wasnt even in shape

plus lewis had been training for kirk johnson, vitali stepped in like 2 weeks before the fight, if u train for one guy its hard to just fight someone u havent been preparing for

with proper training lewis would KO him in 6 rounds or less


Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: R4tfink on February 15, 2004, 07:26:05 AM
Tyson is washed up, bankrupt and a mere shell of the man that won the heavyweight crown at the age of 20 all those years ago.

Roy Jones Jr will run rings round him, hes quicker, hes more mentally stable and an overall better boxer, maybe if you put them in the ring with each other when they are both at there peak it might be different but not now.

Tyson is finished.




I would love love for him to make me eat my words as well, cus i love the guy as a boxing talent.




Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: the dirt on February 15, 2004, 10:05:32 AM
jones is fast but tyson isnt a statue, tyson can move plus royjones has never been hit as hard in his life as tyson will hit him, he's never took a blow nowhere near the power of tyson

vitali had no chance against lennox lewis come on dude, lewis knocked vitali's eye damn near out of its socket, vitali was goin down when the referee stopped it, lewis was pounding his ass and he wasnt even in shape

plus lewis had been training for kirk johnson, vitali stepped in like 2 weeks before the fight, if u train for one guy its hard to just fight someone u havent been preparing for

with proper training lewis would KO him in 6 rounds or less

Yeah,Lewis fucked up Vitali's eye up real bad--- but he was'nt gonna quit. He won like 5 out of 6 rounds, and was obviously winning the fight when it was stopped (winning it half blind for 50% of the fight BTW) His eye damage was the only reason Lewis got away with a win.

And yeah, Lewis was training for Kirk Jhonson until Johnson got hurt 2 weeks before the fight. But it obviously didn't look like he trained for anybody.

Vitali had also trained for another opponent he was to face that night on that card. But when Jhonson went down, he decided to fill in, knowing he could take Lewis, with only 2 weeks of preparation.

So in not preparing for Jhonson, believing he would take him out easily, he probably didn't step it up for Vitali either, and if it wasn't for that gruesome cut they just couldn't close, he would have lost the belt right then and there.


Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Evolution on February 15, 2004, 10:54:16 AM
can any of u guys give me any info on jorge paez.is he any good because hes appearing at wwe no way out


Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: the dirt on April 12, 2004, 08:10:22 PM
Fuck, Wladimir lost against that shmoe.

Seems like it may be over for him. Guess the beating goes to Saunders in a couple weeks against Vitali : ok:


Title: Re:The Boxing Thread.
Post by: the dirt on May 17, 2004, 07:01:01 PM
Roy Jones loses by KO for the first time (his only other loss before this one was a DQ when he hit the other guy when he was on his knees)!

(http://espn.starwave.com/media/boxing/2004/0515/photo/a_jones01_ft.jpg)


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Sin Cut on June 24, 2005, 08:50:52 AM
Toney is trying to schedule a fight with Klitschko. Here is the article from FightNews.com: "James Toney, meanwhile, sat ringside in Johnson's corner for the main event and, as is uaually the case, he had a few things to say. "Vitali Klitschko is next on September 24. Hopefully we can announce it soon. I am not holding anything up, the contract is in his hands. I am the draw for the fight, he's just a generic fighter. I deserve the money. I will knock him out and make it his last fight. I'm not gonna' fight for the organizations. I will take away his WBC belt and after I do, I'm gonna' throw it in the trashcan," stated the always-opinionated Toney."

Which one do you think will win?

Toney hasn't fought anyone this tall before, but he can take punishment. I think Vitali Klitschko will win.



Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: R4tfink on June 24, 2005, 09:35:16 AM
The only person who could defead Vitali is Lennox, if he makes a comeback because they are pretty equal size wise, so same reach.
Mind you if Toney catches him with a big punch coming in, that could put him out.
For what its worth, i want Toney to win, it will be good for the heavyweight division if he does...

Wonder if Audley will get in the World Title picture soon?

He needs to stop fighting shit opponents really first.




Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 24, 2005, 01:36:03 PM
vitali sucks and so does the heavyweight competitors.. Just a bunch of fixed numbers manipulated from shitty wins.. maybe larry holmes or george foreman can come back, it's that bad..  A decent heavyweight could hold all belts no problem... Vitali fights very off balance and he hits pretty soft for a man of his size...
I want to tsee arturo fight but fuck pay per view..


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on June 24, 2005, 06:07:22 PM
I dont buy PPVs anymore Mike


Glen JOhnson and ANtonio Tarver was on PPV last Saturday but they showed the fight for free on HBO tuesday night and i watched it

Tarver won unanimous decision

IF you watch one fight watch Bernard Hopkins vs Jumain Taylor

that is gonna be awesome

will Hopkins continue his defense of the title streak or pass the torch to the up and coming taylor?

Arutro is fighting Mayweather isnt he?

that will be a war.

Vitali Klitchsko would lose to Chris Byrd or probably even Lamon Brewster.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 24, 2005, 06:22:43 PM
i think byrd sucks too.. I saw andruw golota got murdered recently ina fight.. Fucking bumbs keep coming back.. The guy tyson fought was complete shit too../


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on June 25, 2005, 04:15:21 AM
Tyson got beat and fought like shit but I still wont lose faith in him.

I think if somehow he could get the desire and passion back he could still be dominant in that division cause none of those guys are worth of shit and are very very boring.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: R4tfink on June 25, 2005, 04:26:08 AM
Tyson got beat and fought like shit but I still wont lose faith in him.

I think if somehow he could get the desire and passion back he could still be dominant in that division cause none of those guys are worth of shit and are very very boring.

Hes finished...he ruined his legacy by coming back too many times anyway, he should of learned when he got beaten by a very weak Danny Williams...the true nature of how Tyson got beat by Williams was revealed when Williams got anniliated by a boring and lethargic Klitschko who destroyed Williams with a left jab!

We wont see Tyson again, hes said he was only in it for the money, he doesnt have the hunger and im glad his gloves have been hung up before he gets humiliated any further by nobodies.



Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Miz on June 25, 2005, 05:54:48 AM
Toney is trying to schedule a fight with Klitschko. Here is the article from FightNews.com: "James Toney, meanwhile, sat ringside in Johnson's corner for the main event and, as is uaually the case, he had a few things to say. "Vitali Klitschko is next on September 24. Hopefully we can announce it soon. I am not holding anything up, the contract is in his hands. I am the draw for the fight, he's just a generic fighter. I deserve the money. I will knock him out and make it his last fight. I'm not gonna' fight for the organizations. I will take away his WBC belt and after I do, I'm gonna' throw it in the trashcan," stated the always-opinionated Toney."

Which one do you think will win?

Toney hasn't fought anyone this tall before, but he can take punishment. I think Vitali Klitschko will win.


How the hell hasn't Toney been suspended? He tested positive for steriods!! All he got was a $10,000 fine. When Tyson tested positive for weed he got fined $200,000. Slightly unfair?
Besides that, how long can Vitali keep ducking Rahman? I mean, he's gonna have to fight him eventually...back injury, hand injury...the list keeps growing

Anyway, if Toney fought Vitali he'd probably lose, Toney is never in decent shape for a fight, whereas Klitschko trains, because he knows he has little in the way of natural ability.



Mayweather is gonna get a late round KO against Gatti tomorrow night.  They're both awesome fighters, but Mayweather is too slick.



Anyone been reading about Kostya Tzu suffering internal bleeding and bruising of the brain since during his defeat by Hatton? Tzu was supposedly 3rd best p4p in the world before that fight. People were saying Hatton was overrated...I wonder who's gonna be saying that now?


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 25, 2005, 06:50:38 AM
james toney is another fucking bumb.. The heavyweight ranks is loaded with bumbs.. Lights out, fucking guy can barely speak english... :hihi: We should get bowe and buster back... Soon holyfield's retarded ass will be back I'm sure..


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: R4tfink on June 25, 2005, 09:00:21 AM
Hatton was the underdog going into that match, he filled the MEN arena people, thats no mean feat for a British boxing event!

Overrated, well whoever said that needs shooting, he schooled one of the best P4P fighters in the world 3 weeks ago forcing him to retire at the end of the 11th, no mean feat either.

I hope Gatti beats Mayweather, if so that would be a hell of a clash!

Gatti Vs Hatton =  :drool:

In fact Hatton vs Mayweather =  :drool:

The heavyweight division is stale at the moment, you win one fight, you get a title shot, weird but true, its that shit.
It needs an injection of something, some young bastard, hungry to win and beat opponents with KO's, slick combos, power punches and the Charisma of Cassius....

.....it needs me!  :D


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 25, 2005, 09:06:39 AM
tyson lost out on some huge payday by losing to that guy, one win and he would be right up there again.. He'd still be shit but the payday would have been great and people would have watched..


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: R4tfink on June 25, 2005, 09:12:25 AM
tyson lost out on some huge payday by losing to that guy, one win and he would be right up there again.. He'd still be shit but the payday would have been great and people would have watched..

People(the general public) will always watch because of what he has done in the past, people who follow boxing and other high contact sports like myself and maybe yourself, will not watch because they would prefer to remember the old Tyson, who used to tear through opponents, KO after KO after KO, relentless aggression and hunger.

I dont wanna watch a 40 year old man, lose to some bouncer they pulled out the local club who does "a bit" of boxing training.

If Tyson wants to make some real money, he should perhaps move to PRIDE or K-1 to do MMA or kickboxing, he could get a lot of money from K-1 if he chose to Fight Bob "The Beast" Sapp on a Supercard show.

Now that would be one tyson match i would love to see, Bob is always exciting and a little funny at times because he really cant take a punch and he looks like a falling tree when he gets Knocked down.
However, he can punch like a motherfucker and would probably kill Tyson if he landed.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 25, 2005, 09:22:09 AM
I would have liked to remember him the old way.. I grew up watching him kill through the 80's then teh big holyfield match.. I remember tyson was supposed to be at wrestlemania then buster douglas won.. I was so sure it was nothing I missed it.. problem is I am still being like a kid I keep thinking tyson got back on track and got some heart back.. But then i see him weighing 230+ when we know he killed at like 219 1/2.. Such lack of good heavweights I just watch, not only for g=fighting but the idea he might do something nuts.. Kind of became like jacko, their talents diminished now everyone wants to see what crazy stunt they pull..


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 25, 2005, 11:11:37 AM
mayweather corley from may 2004 is on.. great fight... : ok:

damn he has 7 kids and the 7 kids of his dead brother..Corley has mouths to feed... I love listening to their corner men :hihi:

gati ward 2 is on now.. Not bad to catch up on some fights on a lazy day


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on June 25, 2005, 02:42:17 PM
I was watching some Gatti Vs Ward also but my GF made me change it :hihi:

July 15th Hopkins vs Taylor, this could be the fight of the year.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 25, 2005, 03:07:09 PM
I was watching some Gatti Vs Ward also but my GF made me change it :hihi:

July 15th Hopkins vs Taylor, this could be the fight of the year.

I fucking hate how women always want to change the fucking channel, they know you want to watch it...
best thing to do in life is meet someone with the same interests as you and that's it.. eternity is a long fucking time to bebwith people that are opposite


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on June 25, 2005, 03:11:58 PM
she's cool ,she let me watch Johnson vs Tarver and I couldve watched it if i really wanted. :hihi:



Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 26, 2005, 09:38:20 AM
gatti gotted killed had a knot bigger then trump's wallet.. I had a feeling mayweather was going to kill him..


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: R4tfink on June 27, 2005, 08:23:15 AM
Mayweather gave him a boxing masterclass!  :o

Hatton vs Mayweather looks to be the next big fight at 10st!

Woop!



Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 28, 2005, 01:22:59 PM
Mayweather gave him a boxing masterclass!? :o

Hatton vs Mayweather looks to be the next big fight at 10st!

Woop!



i really never thought he would win because mayweather is so much better then ward.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Sin Cut on July 04, 2005, 03:35:35 AM
Martin Sanchez: A Brave Warrior
Who Will Not Be Forgotten!

July 3, 2005

By Mike Sloan

There?s nothing like hearing horrible news when your day up to that point has been a splendid one. On the night of July 1, Mexican workhorse Martin Sanchez was knocked out in the ninth round against Russian contender Rustam Nugaev. After leaving the ring and Mardi Gras Ballroom inside the Orleans Hotel and Casino on his feet, I felt bad for the kid as he tried his damnedest to win his fight, only to fall short and fall victim to a knockout.

From there, it was back to normal in Las Vegas for everybody in attendance as Sanchez strolled back to his dressing room to clean up and lick his wounds. Little did he or anyone else surrounding know what was to unfold.

The next afternoon I was sitting on my couch watching the boob tube when my phone rang. I missed the call, which was from Fightnews.com editor Karl Freitag. His voice and message seemed a bit rushed and uneasy when I checked my voicemail, so I immediately called him back. Karl asked me if I had heard anything about the possible passing of Martin Sanchez, the tough kid who had fought on the fight card I covered on the previous night. Of course, I heard nothing of the incident so Karl and I scurried to call everyone we knew who would know the truth.

After several minutes, Karl called me back and informed me that Martin Sanchez, in fact, had passed away Saturday morning. Once I heard the terrible news, my eyes watered and a lump in my throat formed. ?Wow, this sucks,? I told Karl. ?This is terrible. Man, this is just horrible news.?

From there I hung up the phone and pondered what possibly went wrong the night before. Over and over I replayed the fight?s action, how referee Kenny Bayless monitored the fight and how Sanchez took the ten count from his knees. I couldn?t scrounge together any sort of mistakes on anybody?s part for the unfortunate death of young Martin Sanchez.

Sanchez was taking a moderate beating at the hands of Nugaev and was finally dropped late in the ninth courtesy of a left hook. Sanchez, sensing he had little chance to overcome the adversity, decided to stay on his knees while Bayless reached the count of ten. Once the fight had ended, Sanchez, who was already down his corner, was ushered onto a stool where his cornermen aided their fallen warrior. The ringside physicians performed their routine tasks of post-fight observations and everything seemed normal. Sanchez sat there on his stool for about three minutes and then finally stood up and left the ring on his own two feet.

Sanchez stood in front of the ropes before he exited the ring and once the ring announcer urged the crowd to cheer him on for being such a warrior, Sanchez raised his arms and was engulfed in applause. Sanchez soon left the ring, his head down, but proud that he gave it his all.

From that point, and I don?t know why this came across my head, I thought to myself that even if Sanchez never fights again, at least he left ring to a chorus of cheers and admiration. Even though he lost via knockout, at least he left in good spirits with the crowd fully behind him. That, at least, was a silver lining to what wound up being such a dark grey cloud.

Sanchez was an unknown commodity to both myself and most of the boxing media perched at ringside. Friday night was actually the first time Martin ever ventured outside of his native Mexico to compete and he was hoping that his American debut in the prize ring would be splendid.

I never knew Martin Sanchez. I never spoke to him before his battle and I never got a chance to walk over and congratulate him for being so brave and tough. He was a handsome 26-year-old who was trying to make a living as a professional boxer on the side and it cost him his life. While nearly a thousand men (and women) have lost their lives competing in the Sweet Science, it still comes as a shock when one of ?our own? pass away due to injuries suffered while ?at work.?

As of the time this article went to post, I was unable to reach any members of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, any members of Sanchez? team and/or family and was unable to contact Nugaev. No official reasons were given as to why Sanchez passed away; whether he had some sort of pre-existing brain trauma or if the cause of his tragic and untimely death were directly the result of his fight with Nugaev. What is known, though, is that Sanchez collapsed in his dresing room after the fight and was rushed to the hospital. Surgeons operated to relieve the swelling and bleeding on his brain, but Sanchez was unable to pull through. He passed away in the morning.

The only good that can possibly come from such a horrible incident such as Sanchez? passing is that maybe the sport of boxing will finally work together and form a unified worldwide boxing commission. Hopefully each state and country will perform the most extensive pre-fight tests including mandatory CATScans, MRIs and everything else under the sun and hopefully enough governmental funds can create such tests. Even if MRIs and CATScans are annoying and time-consuming to most, they are well worth every second and penny to ensure that every possible avenue has been taken to ensure that no fighter will ever lose his or her life again while boxing.

As of right now, I am not certain as to the extent of Martin Sanchez? pre-fight physicals and I don?t know what the exact circumstances are that caused his death. If he was 100% physically fit to fight and he wound up dying solely from the punishment he took from Nugaev, then his death was an unfortunate turn of events that seriously couldn?t be avoided. Bayless performed perfectly as there truly was no instance within the nine rounds where he should have stopped the fight. Sanchez, while in his corner, looked worn out and appeared a bit reluctant to allow their fighter to enter the ninth round, but it seemed more because he was tired and bleeding from both his broken nose and busted up mouth.

Sanchez didn?t suffer a brutal beating like the one that ?Kid? Paret endured in his fatal third match with Emile Griffith. He also didn?t absorb the sort of punishment that both Arturo Gatti and Rocky Gannon are known for. Sure, he was systematically broken down, but the punches he took were pretty much just like every other slightly out-gunned foe had taken.

So what can be done about this?

Aside from extensive pre-fight brain scans for every fighter before every fight, maybe state and worldwide commission should make post-fight scans mandatory as well, no matter how many punches were absorbed in the heat of battle. It?s a great idea, but what is so sad is that the fact that such tests command thousands of dollars each time around. Who will actually pay for it? That answer may sadly never be answered. Let?s just hope that tragic deaths such as the one Martin Sanchez? suffered will be avoided in the future.

Rest in peace, Martin ?Bombero? Sanchez. Though I never met you personally, I will sorely miss you, just as will everybody else involved in the brutal sport of boxing.

Sanchez (May 3, 1979 ? July 2, 2005) finished his career with a respectable professional record of 13-9 with 10 KOs. - Boxing News


Damn this is sad :(


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Sin Cut on July 04, 2005, 03:51:56 AM
I was wondering.. how many of you would've liked to see Mike Tyson make a comeback?


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on July 04, 2005, 12:12:44 PM
I was wondering.. how many of you would've liked to see Mike Tyson make a comeback?

he has made so many failed comebacks already that it makes me sick ,once a great killer now some overweight has been losing to the worst guys in the buiness.. I hope he never comes back, maybe a little play by play but that's it..


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on July 05, 2005, 11:56:48 PM
Sorry to disappoint u mike but he is coming back yet again

he is in talks to have a 4 round tournament with Riddick Bowe and Evander Holyfield and honestly I will definitely watch this.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Miz on July 06, 2005, 03:24:06 PM
That's all BS. It's a tournament Fenech was thinking about doing, but absolutely not with Tyson. Tyson isn't going to fight again.



R.I.P. Martin Sanchez


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Miss-Aussie on August 15, 2005, 11:02:32 PM
i like
Mike Zambidis and Ian Jacobs


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on August 16, 2005, 12:40:29 AM
U like boxing gunna girl? thats cool!

October a huge fight has been signed

Roy Jones Jr vs Antonio Tarver III

Jones won a decision the first fight, Tarver landed a lucky punch and knocked Jones out in fight 2

fight 3 will be classic


Bernard Hopkins vs Jermain Taylor was a classic

Taylor won the fight and the belt by split decision

Personally I thought it was a draw


Taylor won more rounds but Hopkins won the fight cause he did way more damage and landed a lot more punches.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 25, 2005, 11:49:58 AM
let me say I just watched the hbo replay of wladamir and samuel peter.. I have to say fucking boring as hell.. All the fucking holding, wladamir is so damn boring.. he falls all over the place like some old broad.. he barely even got hit and he was dropped numerous times.. Any decent fighter shoyuld drop him in a second.. He looks good at the start with the jabs using his height, but then it becomes a few lame punches with tons of holding.. Then undercard with cotto was a great sluggfest

wladmir won, but it just was boring and typical of these tall stiffs


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on October 03, 2005, 12:46:22 AM
What did u think of Tarver handing Jones his ass.

Man I cant believe Roy fell off like he did.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on October 04, 2005, 02:26:39 AM
What did u think of Tarver handing Jones his ass.

Man I cant believe Roy fell off like he did.

roy jones just became old one day.. He aged over night, he has been knocked out twice in his more recent fights... I don't know if it was do to bouncing weight classes over time or just losing the magic but either way he is done.. It's kind of like mike tyson, you can have some heart and desire but if the tools are gone it's over


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on October 16, 2005, 06:12:14 AM
espn classic has been playing tons of old mike tyson fights.. Damn that wasa great time in heavyweight boxing. Knockout power in both hands and very fast fists.. You never realise how many people he fought from 85-86-87. Teddy atlas seems really bitter.. Only is cus never died and he stayed on track.. Those long layoffs really fuck a guy up.. No reason fights should happen every 10 months or longer


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on October 16, 2005, 09:15:17 PM
I dont think Tyson's legacy should be ruined due to the last 10 years, prison destroyed his career.

Did u watch the Contender rematches last night? This was the shittiest boxing ever, two screwjobs back to back and ill never watch the Contender again. Anthony bosante out landed Jessie Brinkley 148 to 51 but Brinkely won a unanimous decision, Teddy Atlas was livid!

Peter Manfredo beat Sergio Mora but yet the Judges gave it to Mora. Horrible shit


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on October 19, 2005, 06:44:30 PM
I dont think Tyson's legacy should be ruined due to the last 10 years, prison destroyed his career.

Did u watch the Contender rematches last night? This was the shittiest boxing ever, two screwjobs back to back and ill never watch the Contender again. Anthony bosante out landed Jessie Brinkley 148 to 51 but Brinkely won a unanimous decision, Teddy Atlas was livid!

Peter Manfredo beat Sergio Mora but yet the Judges gave it to Mora. Horrible shit

you know something I loved the show the first time and I watched the fight between peter and sergio but I felt they were milking these so I stopped.. I wil probably watch the new show when it happens just for the he;ll of it..

Tyson was great to watch.. I loved his fight with larry holmes..

Tyson was kind of like axl surrounded by YES men saying how he was great and unstopable and lost touch with reality


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: R4tfink on October 23, 2005, 03:51:37 PM
British Boxing Fans

Danny Williams Vs Audley Harrison is pencilled in for an early December clash...

Lets hope Danny doesnt shit himself this time.

A - Train will kill him.



Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on November 10, 2005, 06:25:11 PM
vitali retired.... Guy was the biggest chump of a champ ever... hurt his knee right before his fight, figures since he was such a gawky bastard


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on November 11, 2005, 04:34:52 AM
I hate Vitali, hasim Rahman the champ now??? what a joke.

I wish Tyson would get his head on straight, He could beat Rahman and u wanna know why?

Cause Rahman is his size.

Tyson can still beat people his size or smaller, the days of beating guys twice his size are over.

if he got serious, I think he could beat Rahman, Rahman isnt that good in my o pinion.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on November 11, 2005, 09:45:34 AM
I hate Vitali, hasim Rahman the champ now??? what a joke.

I wish Tyson would get his head on straight, He could beat Rahman and u wanna know why?

Cause Rahman is his size.

Tyson can still beat people his size or smaller, the days of beating guys twice his size are over.

if he got serious, I think he could beat Rahman, Rahman isnt that good in my o pinion.

it's not over for him.. I have been watching all his fights from douglas back to 1985 and he was just a beast , he was much leaner back then averaging about 219 at his 5'-11" frame... Later he had yes men and wasn't into his training, he weighed about 230 way to heavy for his size and his old style which was power with speed..

I read muscular development and there were talks that great bodybuilding trainer charles glass was going to work with him.. Now I heard he punched some south american dude taking pictures?? :'(

Boxing is really just a punch of bullshit making everyone number one contenders to charge a fortune on ppv.. Back in the day tyson was fighting monthly then before you knew it he was fighting yearly.. He had his head screwed on back then.. Maybe age is partly his downfall, or the fact he just wants a quick buck win lose or draw..?

Bottom line is the heavy weight division sucks and there are to many fake champs.. Vitali was champ and half the people I know never even heard of him.. he fought corey sanders for the belt.. :hihi: Guy was a fucking stiff and that's just vitali..

I hate champs that are made by default.. They should have at least lined up a fight betwen the next ranked contender to battle hasim..


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on November 12, 2005, 03:40:22 AM
Senator John McCain,Max Kellerman,Teddy Atlas and people like that are trying to start a boxing commission, A true boxing league like the other professional sports.

Thing is Congress dont give a shit about boxing, so it will be hard to get serious time on this.

I heard on a show that Don King's daughter was given 250,000 a year by King out of Tyson's money to be the president of his fan club. He really ripped Mike off big time by doing shit like this.

Paid a gardener like 750,000.

2 promoters control boxing, there are 26 different titles, its ridiculous.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on November 12, 2005, 07:07:00 AM
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John McCain,Max Kellerman,Teddy Atlas

that would be cool, I know teddy n max are so into boxing nad of course teddy has worked with the greats.. I use to see him at gleason's gym in brooklyn.. Never knew about mcain but I like him anyways..

Don king really is the scum of the earth.. Rocky 5 portrayed him great :hihi:


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on November 21, 2005, 07:27:26 AM
I watched mayweather fight on hbo yesterday.. Might have been new.. He knocked the guy out in the 6th.. he is lightning fast.. The guy he fought seemed to have  ablack eye before he entered the ring


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on November 21, 2005, 03:38:08 PM
I cant wait for Taylor/Hopkins 2,thats gonna be a war.First fight was so so so close,I actually scored it a draw but Taylor narrowly one, I think Hopkins will take the rematch 12 rd decision.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Miz on December 14, 2005, 09:01:13 PM
Hahahahaha. Did anyone see Harrison vs Williams?
That was the worst fight i've seen in my entire life! And I saw Klitschko vs Sanders.
Before the fight, both of them were saying they could be the undisputed champ...ten seconds from the end Williams fell over throwing (and missing) an uppercut.

I thought it was ridiculous that Tarver thought he could move up to heavyweight. On the basisi of this and the fact that there are no good heavyweights at the moment, I think he could probably unify all the belts.

What is the world coming to?!?!


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: R4tfink on December 15, 2005, 08:46:19 AM
The heavyweight Division is extremely poor at the moment and boring if Saturdays fight is owt to go on!

Audley Harrison needs to hang up his gloves now, you dont take up the sport of boxing if you are scared of being hit! And he is, everytime Williams came near him you could see the terror in his eyes!

Prince Naseem is "apparently" making a comeback within the next 6 months...he could probably fight at heavyweight at the moment! ;-)



Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on December 17, 2005, 07:53:38 AM
I just watch espn classic boxing now... Like rock marciano :hihi:


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on December 18, 2005, 07:18:05 AM
I saw some 7 foot hairball russian fight john ruiz.. God boxing heavyweights fucking suck :nervous:


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Miz on December 18, 2005, 09:08:25 PM
I just watch espn classic boxing now... Like rock marciano :hihi:
Are you laughing at Marciano? The greatest chin, and one of the the hardest punchers ever?


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on December 19, 2005, 05:43:38 PM
I just watch espn classic boxing now... Like rock marciano :hihi:
Are you laughing at Marciano? The greatest chin, and one of the the hardest punchers ever?

no he was the best heavyweight ever.. i was laughing because i have to watch 1950's boxing to see a good fight..


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Miz on December 22, 2005, 08:10:31 PM
Thank god. I thought you might have lost your mind or something... ;)

I could watch Rocky all day. The punch that knocked out Jersey Joe Walcott is probably the greatest punch i've ever seen. There isn't a boxer in history who would've stayed on his feet from that.

It's funny, he wasn't really a very good boxer, he was just the toughest motherfucker ever to step into the ring.

Actually, he was probably the second toughest guy ever to get in a ring. If you wanna see some really, tuly, awesome power, try and get hold of a clip of Lenny McLean fighting. He was an underground fighter in London a few decades ago (he played Benny the Baptist in Lock Stock). Watching him fight is phenominal. He weighs about 20 stone, but he fights like Tyson used to. He's fucking incredible. Fast, strong and has an immense chin. I don't think theres a boxer in the history of the sport who could've beaten him.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on December 25, 2005, 01:43:58 PM
March

bernard hopkins vs Roy Jones Jr.

dont know what Jones has left but should be a good fight.

I say Hopkins by a decision.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on December 26, 2005, 04:37:09 AM
jones is fighting again.. God damn retire already.. he ruins his legacy each time he steps into the ring


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Miz on December 30, 2005, 09:13:17 AM
It'll probably be a rubbish fight if either fighters last bouts are anything to go by. B-Hop will win, probably on points. Jones doesn't work hard enough.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on March 25, 2006, 04:39:03 AM
anyone see hasim Rahman vs James Toney?

What a shitty fight this was, Toney was so fat it was crazy.

Rahman is the WBC champ, what a disgrace.


I still dont know why Tyson dont try one more comeback but fight men his size and leave those giants alone.


I think Tyson would KO Rahman in the 2nd round.Rahman has poor defense, gets hit a lot and Mike still has power.  Mike's problem is, he has been fighting these guys 6 inches taller and 50 more pounds, they lay on him and wear him down.

A guy his size wouldnt be able to do that.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Sin Cut on May 12, 2006, 02:47:52 AM
There was a great middle weight match 5.5 where Amin Asikainen 17-0 (13KO) met Christophe Tendil in the ring.

The Finn (Asikainen) was controlling the whole match and knocked Tendil out in round five with a hard right hook.

He won the EU middlewight championship belt with this one.

This was also the first time Tendil was knocked out to just give some perspective  : ok:


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Scabbie on May 14, 2006, 06:42:29 PM
Prince Naseem is "apparently" making a comeback within the next 6 months...he could probably fight at heavyweight at the moment! ;-)

He will probably have to...in the slammer

What a dick


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Scabbie on May 14, 2006, 06:47:17 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SPORT/05/14/boxing.hatton/

Ricky Hatton wins...sounds like a good fight.

Hadn't heard Floyd Patterson had died.  :(


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: axl_rose_700 on May 14, 2006, 06:59:14 PM
Hatton = Legend!  : ok:


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Scabbie on May 20, 2006, 07:15:22 AM
Barrera fighting this weekend (in addition to Tommy H and Axl)


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on May 25, 2006, 12:31:42 AM
Barrera vs Juarez was a great fight! : ok:


I cant believe we get to watch Winky Wright vs Jumain Jones on Free HBO.

Thing is, this fight has a chance to be incredibly boring as both are defensive/counterpunch type fighters.



Hopkins vs Tarver wont be a good fight, Tarver will win hands down.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: mikegiuliana on May 25, 2006, 02:35:50 AM
james tony isa piece of shit, fucking can't believe they still carry his ass around.. Another juicer :hihi:

I love this tyson vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eaTNnN1Ph8&eurl=


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: MR.BROWNSTONE on October 01, 2006, 10:36:07 PM
After vowing never to fight again, the 40-year-old Tyson will stage a series of four-round exhibitions, beginning on October 20 against longtime sparring partner Corey Sanders here at the Chevrolet Centre.

"This tour is going all over the world," Tyson said at a news conference on Thursday. "Europe, Asia, Middle East ... everybody is bidding in anticipation."

A former two-time heavyweight champion, Tyson announced his retirement from boxing after he lost to unheralded Irishman Kevin McBride on June 11, 2005.

Tyson (50-6, 44 KOs) squandered an estimated $300 million in earnings and declared bankruptcy in 2003, but denied that debts is what forced him back into the ring.

"The money I make (from the exhibitions) isn't going to help my bills, but I feel better and won't be depressed," Tyson said.

"Mike Tyson's World Tour" is presented by Sterling McPherson of Sterling Promotions.

"Mike Tyson is one of the greatest fighters who've ever lived," McPherson said. "We're giving the public all over the world a chance to watch him box again. The best thing Mike can do is go around the world and meet people who have never met a star or an icon like Tyson."

Tyson spent the last month at the Aladdin Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, performing public workouts with trainer Jeff Fenech in a ring set up just outside the casino's buffet. The open sessions drew hundreds of fans.

"I was a little overweight, smoking too much, and I started to get in shape," Tyson said. "I was training in Las Vegas and 2,000 people a day were there. Why not do an exhibition?"

Always a fan draw, Tyson became the youngest heavyweight champion at age 20 in 1986. However, he has never been the same since losing to Buster Douglas in 1990 in one of boxing's biggest upsets.

Less than two years later, Tyson was convicted of rape and spent almost three years in prison.

In 1997, Tyson reached his low point in the ring when he bit a chunk out of Evander Holyfield's ear during a world title fight.

Sanders (23-10-1, 15 KOs) recorded an eighth-round knockout of newly crowned heavyweight Oleg Maskaev in 2002, but lost four straight fights after that.

Tyson's exhibition tour will also include other officially sanctioned boxing matches.

Former IBF lightweight champion Paul Spadafora will make his return to the ring after an absence of two-plus years. He was recently paroled after spending seven months in prison followed by a stint in a halfway house for the non-fatal shooting of his then-fiancee in 2003.

Spadafora (38-0-1, 15 KOs) captured the lightweight title in 1999 after winning a 12-round decision against Israel Cardona and made seven successful title defenses. The only blemish on his record is a 12-round draw with 2003 WBA lightweight champion Leonard Dorin.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Alan on December 07, 2007, 10:33:06 PM
hatton vs mayweather

who's your money on for this one?


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Jim Bob on December 09, 2007, 02:55:01 AM
hatton vs mayweather

who's your money on for this one?

my money was on Hatton dude, I hate mayweather, with a fucking passion.    but unforutnately :(    It was a good match tho.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: D on December 09, 2007, 03:15:05 AM
Mayweather vs Hatton was definitely worth the 65 bucks I dropped down for it.

Boxing PPV's usually disappoint but this one did not.

ACtion packed, Exciting, And I was on the edge of my seat the entire time.

Excellent knock out for Mayweather.

He is awesome and u have to give credit where it is due.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: slash666 on December 09, 2007, 05:47:29 PM
the fight was great but I feel the refferee was very poor, he made some bad decisions


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Alan on December 09, 2007, 10:11:15 PM
it was an amazing knockout, but the ref spoilt the fighting, everytime hatton got close he pulled them apart and the point deducation was unreal.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: maccladd on December 10, 2007, 05:58:06 AM
It was a good punch from Mayweather, but Hatton knocked himself out headbutting the post.
Can't believe Hatton lost, and the scoring by the judges was abit questionable.



Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Alan on December 10, 2007, 08:33:33 AM
you actually thought the scoring from the judges would be fair?

that just doesn't happen in big fights in the US.

  FINAL FIGHT STATISTICS
Holyfield                                Lewis
    385          Total Punches      613
    130          Punches Conn.    348
    34%         Percent Conn.     57%
    171          Jabs Thrown        364
     52           Jabs Conn.         187
    30%         Percent Conn.     51%
    214          Power Punches   249
     78         P. Punches Conn. 161
    36%         Percent Conn.     65%
     0             Knockdowns        0

the result, a draw.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: maccladd on December 10, 2007, 09:21:37 AM
This is more interesting than talking about GnR, where there is actually no news!

Perhaps the GNR boards should be reduced to Child Boards and we should turn this into a Sports forum.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: axl_rose_700 on November 02, 2008, 01:10:57 PM
Now then I think we need some action in the Boxing Thread. There's loads going on in the boxing world. Lots of big fights coming up:

Calzaghe v Roy jones Jr

David Haye v Monte Barrett

Ricky Hatton v Paulie Mallinagi

Oscar v Manny Pacqiou

Lots of exciting fights coming up, any thoughts.

Has anyone in America heard much of David Haye, Britain's next heavyweight Champion?


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Sandstone on December 03, 2008, 09:53:37 PM
Fight of the year so far?

For me it has to be Cotto vs Margarito, it had everything. I am a massive Cotto fan and fully expected him to out class Margarito but I had no idea Margaritos chin was that tough! Would love a rematch next summer or Mayweather to take one of them on.


Title: Re: The Boxing Thread.
Post by: Lord Kayoss on January 17, 2009, 01:01:58 AM
Fight of the year so far?

For me it has to be Cotto vs Margarito, it had everything. I am a massive Cotto fan and fully expected him to out class Margarito but I had no idea Margaritos chin was that tough! Would love a rematch next summer or Mayweather to take one of them on.


Cotto/Margarito gets my vote for fight of the year.

But how bout that Pacquaio/De La Hoya smashdown?