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Extreme have a new album coming out in Aug..I was on a fan page and someone listed that Nuno turned down Axl's request to join GN'R...
I always wondered how he would fit in,,I'm glad he didn't...I'm so happy w/ B-Foot!! And also glad EXTREME are back..Has anyone ever heard this?
If you only know More than Words your missing out on a great band.
The 1st album is ver VHish, Pornograffiti is more polished and diverse, III Sides to Every Story is nothing short of epic, Waiting for the Punchline took a while to appreciate...

Nuno is kick-ass guitar hero... Extreme is a very underrated band beacuse a lot of people only had hear "More Than words"... if the info is true is very surprising all of the different styles oif guitarist that Axl asked for playing in Gn'r (Zakk Wylde, Buckethead, Bumblefoot, Finck or Nuno...)

WHO??




j/k - not sure he'd be a fit personally.

When GnR was looking for a replacement for Buckethead, Nuno was someone I thought would be awesome. He would have filled the role no problem.  He is a great performer with a lot of presence and can shred like a muthafucka. 

That said,  Bumblefoot is also a great choice and I'm glad he's in.

A few years ago VH1 did a show called Reuniting the Band,  they tried to sneak up on him with a camera and he wouldn't even talk to them.  The other members of Extreme alluded to him being a dick. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would want to be in a band were he would have to share lead guitar duties.

Great player though.

A funkrock guitarist in GnR....yeah that would have worked....roflcopter.

And someone said Nuno could have replaced Bucket.....not even close being in the same league. Bumble same but it seems that's all we got now   :no:

Bucket is an experimental guitarist, and it worked.

Is he above, then?

i read an interview with nuno in a guitar magazine where he said he was contacted to audition for the job but he turned it down flat.


Nuno's a busy guy and he's not after a high profile gig. he's had that. i guess it's all about the music now.

Which, to me, seems a bit backwards.  Turn down working with Axl only to hold out for an Extreme reunion?  I'm not sure I get that one.  In the end, it's not difficult to realize that GnR will have a much more highly-regarded legacy in rock history, and it's hard for me to imagine someone *not* wanting to be a part of that. 

Nuno is a great player, and I've enjoyed Extreme's music.   He's never someone I would have considered a good fit for GnR - sorry, but nothing about him says "dangerous" to me - which is why I'm fine that it didn't happen.   It just seems really odd to me that he was even considered...

well, many of Gn'r Current Members are dangerous, i.e. Bumblefoot, buckethead and well any of them actually, these two are just borderline nice people :)

anyway, it's easy to see why he'd say no to Gn'r As opposed to Extreme.

Extreme is his band, his legacy.

i don't really care for extreme, but i love nuno's playing, stage presence and look.

Nuno is a badass motherfucker, i LOVE extreme and his guitar playing in the band. I think Nuno would of fit GNR in the early 90s but i dont think he would fit with the sound they are trying to create now.

someone said he isnt in the same league is Buckethead, Buckethead fucking sucks ass.

Ill take Nuno, Ron or Slash over that idiot anyday.

His stupid costume, and break dancing onstage (from what i saw of the Rio gig) was pathetic, who wants to see that, really. I was iffy about ron at first with his cheesy custom guitar, but hes ditched that and tends to go by ron rather than bumblefoot so im cool with that, can take the guy a bit more seriously now.

I have an autographed guitar from Extreme, it's a Washburn N2 Nuno Bettencourt Sig guitar.  My cousin's step-sister was married to Paul Geary (the drummer) back in the day. 

Well as many have pointed out, Extreme really is a great band. I can see why Nuno would want to reunite with them. Another thing to remember with these guitars is turn around time to seeing their work released. I don't know when Extreme got back together but they've got an album coming in August as was mentioned at the start of the thread. If he'd joined GNR, we still don't know if and when we'd get to hear his work.

Don't forget the most excellent Do You Want To Play, Extreme  : ok:

Experimental is something else than being just a funkrock guitarist though. Funk and GnR don't work, remember Bad Apples. It worked in Brownstone but that is just 1 song...Nuno's  songwriting is mainly funk based so I don't see how he would fit in.


Bumble above Nuno? Hmmm, to me personally it depends...when Bumble stops wanking around he actually plays well, but if you say in general than Nuno is the better rock guitarist.

I mean I know Bucket is gone, not coming back etc...but effing hell, that was one amazing guitarist and I don't see anyone in the present coming close. No wonder Axl tried for a long time to get him on board and then try keep him and then get him back again. But alas, finito.

I?ve never read about this. This rumour is pretty new to me.

Are you talking about the song Bad Apples? That song kicked ass.

Bucket's songwriting has nothing to do with old Gn'R style either and he fit in.

:-[
not even close, but whatever.

Have you heard of Guthrie Govan, Ron Thal or Mattias IA Ekundh? Don't think so.

I actually thinking musically Nuno could have been a good fit for GNR.  With it being thought CD will have quite a few epic queen like songs, Extreme rocked the Freddie Mercury concert with their Queen Medley.  So I think he could play a more epic grand style if he wanted. I wouldn't limit any great guitarist to just one type of music whether it be funk rock, experimental, straight forward rock, arena, whatever the case may be. As far as who is better than who that is all personal taste.  Different people just click with different styles, it's not a bad thing, just all our ears hear and enjoy things a bit differently. 

It was about Nuno being funk based, Bucket not....besides listen to Bucket's own songswriting..some of it sounds like Coma and Locomotive on steroids. His style is very hardrock and old style metal but still fresh and new sounding stuff. Nuno is funk.


I have been active in the guitar world for over 10 years, not just on forums but also on stage, I think I know a little bit about it ;)

Govan is ok if you like jazz based fiddling (I met him actually).......Thal/Bumble, is that a trick question? Again he is ok when he stops wanking around (met him when he was still giving clinics in front of 20 people)......Mattias IA Eklundh (you spelt his name wrong, that's how much you know about him), the flavor of this year, the weird sounds he gets, yes interesting for 5 minutes.

Bucket is a few steps higher...ask those guys themselves and they will tell you too.

really? He's an old school rock n' roll guitarist! ::)

I don't think you really know much about it.

Alright.


I know his name and that was a typo.

You can't be serious. Is Buckethead a few steps higher than Shawn Lane too?

Maybe Nuno feels he has worked hard to establish his own identity as a guitarist and didnt want to replace one of his contemporaries and play his stuff? His ego probaby wouldnt allow him and I got no problem with that.

I love Buckethead, he?s one of my favorite musicians, but it?s absurd to downsize Ron in any regard when compared to him. I?m a longtime fan of both (and Guthrie for that matter) and find both your praises concerning Buckethead as your criticism towards Govan and Thal pretty shallow?

Concerning Ron and Buckethead (apart from personal taste):

- Buckethead uses more patterns, where Ron is the diametric opposite of a pattern player. Able to come up with more complex and/or innovative improvisations and concepts, he has much more versatility in his chops;
- Ron (successfully) explores more genres than Buckethead and explores them deeper, in using less clich? patterns that are omnipresent in the various styles, sounding more authentic;
- Ron?s music contains more advanced and innovative dynamic, rhythmic, melodic, non diatonic, harmonic concepts and overall theory manipulation (truly amazing hybrid picking, two-handed polyrhythms and thimble licks);
- Ron's music is more multidimensional, he has an ?avenue of expression? on all ?levels?; music, production, vocals and lyrics;
- Ron has active "absolute pitch" and a photographic memory for music;
- Ron has a better trained fretting hand, due to extensive (high quality, -in comes absolute pitch-) fretless playing. Resulting in ultra clean(er) and fast(er) playing on a fretted (conventional) guitar (speed & articulation = relevant in reference to Buckethead);

The one who would set a huge contrast to this bunch of players would be Nuno Bettencourt. I really don't see how he (overall or not) shoud be considered a better hard rock player.  He's a decent hard rock player yes, but eons behind any of the others on all aspects ? except (past)popularity (which in turn, isn?t indicative for quality). He?s simply too limited by his rigid boogie/funky approach. As for his solo stuff, sure he incorporates some Arabic and Slavic style modalities, but none of it comes close to the depth what these genre crossing musical chameleons (BBf and Govan) are doing. Technically speaking it?s no big secret Bettencourt?s a complete Vai rip-off, copying exact licks, where people like BBF and Govan are much more innovative than that (?that? includes Vai as well).

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