Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I am talking about this: studio cds (no greatest hits, live crap) that are must owns. Albums you should have no matter who you are. It could be the band's biggest cd, their best selling, most popular by critics ect.

List some you can think of. Here are mine...

Must own these if  you're a rock fan at all
Def Leppard "Hysteria"
Guns N' Roses "Appetite For Destruction"
Motley Crue "Girls, Girls, Girls"
Bon Jovi "Slipper When Wet"
Ac/Dc "Back in Black"

Those are some of the bigger ones I could think of right now.. you guys list some.

Led Zeppelin IV
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
The Stooges - Fun House
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
Nirvana - Nevermind
The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
Todd Rundgren - Something/Anything?

for now.....

nice additions

go ahead and add

Aerosmith "Rocks"
RHCP "Blood Sex Sugar Magik"
Bush "16Stone"
Blessid Union of Souls "Home"

Zep II
GnR AFD
Metallica  Black Album
Beatles  Sgt. Pepper
Faith No More    Real Thing

add...

Van Halen - 1 & 1984
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Iron Maiden - Live after Death (I think we can make an exception for this live album)
Megadeth - Rust in Peace
John Lee Hooker - Chess Recordings
Stevie Ray Vaughan - Texas Flood
Buddy Guy - Damn Right, I Got the Blues
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
Lynyrd Skynyrd - pronounced 'leh-'n?rd 'skin-'n?rd

pretty much all of the already posted ones.

and

Aerosmith=permanent vacation and pump
Skid Row - Slave To The Grind
Jimi Hendrix - Axis Bold As Love
Metallica-Master of Puppets and Black Album
Marilyn Manson-Mechanical Animals
Tom Petty- Greatest Hits
The Cult-Love, Electric, Sonic Temple

Many more i cant think right now. Many of the ones already posted were great choices id list also.

GnR - Appetite
Tool - ?nima
Pantera - Vulgar Dispaly of Power
Rage against the machine - Rage against the machine
Nick Drake - Bryter Layter
Nine Inch Nails - Downward Spiral
Queen - A Night at the O.
King Crimson - Red
A Perfect Circle - Mer De Noms
Melvins - Senile animal

+

Monster Magnet - Spine of God
Gluecifer - Automatic Thrill

Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Beatles- Abbey Road
Doors - LA Woman
GNR-AFD
U2 - Joshua Tree
Pumpkins-Mellon Collie
Floyd- Dark side of the moon

All GNRs real albums.
All NINs albums.
Never Mind The Bollocks... Heres The Sex Pistols.
The Eraser - Thom Yorke.
First Issue / Metal Box - Public Image Ltd.
Psychos Path - John Lydon
12 Bar Blues - Scott Weiland
Outside (and pretty much anything else) - David Bowie
Origin of Symmetry - Muse
Evasion - Citizen Tank.
Anything by Katarrhaktes.
Anything by Ambient End.

As for 'rock' albums, the majority of them are pretty poor at best. As are most 'rock' bands. Very stale.

Aerosmith-Rocks
Alice Cooper-Killer
Alice in Chains-Dirt
Bad Religion-Suffer
Dropkick Murphys-Do or Die
GnR-Appetite For Destruction
Iron Maiden-Powerslave
Izzy Stradlin-117 Degrees
Jerry Cantrell-Degradation Trip Vol. 1&2
Megadeth-Rust In Peace
Metallica-Master of Puppets
Misfits-Walk Among Us
Motorhead-Inferno
NOFX-White Trash, Two Heebs, & A Bean
Pantera-The Great Southern Trendkill
Ramones-Ramones
Rancid-...And Out Come The Wolves
Rolling Stones-Sticky Fingers
Social Distortion-White Light, White Heat, White Trash
Soundgarden-Badmotorfinger
White Zombie-Astro Creep 2000

Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
Nirvana - Nevermind

Let it Bleed - Rolling Stones
Quadrophenia - The Who
In Rock - Deep Purple
Sabotage - Black Sabbath
Rocks - Aerosmith
Fair Warning - Van Halen
Powerage - AC/DC
Appetite - GNR
The Fragile - NIN
Earth vs The Wildhearts - The Wildhearts

"St. Anger", "Backstreets back" and "Lokets Favoriter"

Id rather rock bands over electronic bands....any day.

Even Thursday?

I'd agree, except somehow I've never owned it. Taped it off friends when it first came out and never bought a copy, and probably
never will now that it's all available on the greatest hits album.

What about sunday morning after a night at a rave on extacy?  :hihi: ( do people even do that anymore?)

shat it lol. bunch of sarcy buggers ;)

Guns N Roses-  Appetite, Use your Illusion 1 and 2
Pink Floyd- Wish You Were Here, The Wall, Animals, Dark Side of The Moon
Smashing Pumpkins- Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness, Adore
Michael Jackson- Thriller
Elton John- Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
Boston- Boston
Pearl Jam- Ten


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Id rather just listen to good music regardless of genre, any day.

(even thursday... and sunday  :hihi:)

yeah but you said most rock albums people chose were bland...i dont understand how you can think that

I can think that quite easily. As I do with every genre of music. There's so much filler, over-rated, fake, posing nonsense.

Yes I'm really opinionated and a lot of people will disagree with what I have to say... especially since I am in a 'rock' band forum. Guns N' Roses are my favorite band, but rock music to me is just drivel. Ofcourse, there are a few exceptions... like bands/artists that I like.

Totally agree. For example, there's only a handful of drummers I think who actually add to rock band, a few more who are adequate in that they do what is necessary, and a whole load who are rubbish. Guys like Reznor can program a drum machine to sound more rhythmically interesting than most rock drummers playing live.

Yeah I agree to that :)

I just like sound for sound. When things get too calculated to fit a 'scene', genre or trend, it becomes a farce. Which is probably why I hate so many bands. I recognize that there will always be some similarities with the majority of musicians... but there's is a difference between posing and playing with integrity.

my issue with electronic music is. its drag and drop music, without proper instruments i just dont think its real. Theres no emotion in some pretend noise you can make on your laptop.

(while i dont think this about NIN as they do use instruments most of the time) some other more electronic based bands bore me shitless.

And i like the feeling rock music gives, very energetic and the live shows by most of the good bands are always great to watch.

i guess its all opinion, but i just dont agree that most rock music is bland and stale.

Definitely. There's stuff I like now that I'm older that I didn't like when I was young because I wasn't supposed to. Similarly there's stuff I liked back then because
it fitted into the right genre that I really despise now.

Im going to ignore all of your post bar that one line, otherwise I'll be writing this forever.

No emotion in some pretend noise you can make on a laptop... right.

Im going to elaborate on laptop, and go for the whole 'synthesizing' sound. Be it from keyboards, laptops, plug ins, etc etc. They are only as emotional and detailed as the person programming it.

Its equal.

The way someone 'programs' a sound can easily be compared to someone playing the guitar. When someones playing a guitar, they are relying on something else [the guitar] to make the 'sound'... its just that people go about it different ways, with rig set ups, playing styles... Slash vs Bucket, for example. Two different players, same instrument, different sound. Its the way they play it, the way its set up, how they utilize all the different possibilities that makes that sound unique.

Just like with a keyboard/laptop etc... filter cut offs, oscillators, attack, delay, sustain, release, envelope filters, blah blah blah. All affecting the output sound. Same instruments, different set ups, different, unique sound.

Yes there are 'presets', but its not just presets. I never use them and a lot of artists spend hours/days/weeks/months making their own.

When a guitar arrives in its standard state, that is a preset. People customize... I'm going on and on... can you not see where I'm coming from?

A guitar is just as lifeless as an electronic 'emotionless' sound. It just needs an emotional player to strum its strings/press its buttons the right way.


EDIT:

one more thing... if you can make a sound with a laptop, its not pretend, is it?

i CAN see your point, and its a very valid point. But i guess i just dont really feel much from those type of sounds.

When i hear a guitar solo, say the November rain guitar solo, one of my favorite solos to listen to, i cant really describe but i love hearing it i can hum to it i just love it. I just dont get that from mainly electronic music.

But i can understand how you may, as you did give very valid reasons to back your point.

Haha yeah, i might have over done it. i totally understand where you're coming from, like with November Rain etc, Slash is why I love rock music... the vast majority of others is why I hate it.

Trent Reznor etc is why I love electronic, the vast majority of others who have a computer and twiddle shit is why I hate electronic music...

so on and so forth throughout the genres. resulting in why i hate genres and just like (what i consider to be) real music, stand alone, without pigeon holing it.

Cool discussion, no one is right or wrong. I would add that it also requires a listener in tune with the emotions of the player for the 'emotion' to be communicated, the medium isn't so important as long as that connection is made. After all, many people think that GNR and NIN etc is just noise.

also true.

after all, it is down to personal preference I guess.

Well, pretty much none of the above.

MUST own albums?

The Who - Quadrophenia
The Who - Who's Next
The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society
The Kinks - Arthur Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire
Pink Floyd - Animals (went in two by two...)
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon

You really do love the kinks dont you jim?  :D

(backs into corner shielding eyes from your negative karma givin wraith...memories of the last time i spoke of the kinks to you XD)

add to that.
What would you say on the first Pink Floyd album without Roger (i can never remember its name)? I always thought that had some good stuff on it.  Or was it his last album. i cant remember, the one where theres alot of world war soundin samples on it.

add to that (another edit)

Ill add Janes Addiction-Nothings Shocking, to the list.

You know what, I'm going to qualify what I just said. Or, err, listed. I've tried to not let my age, that is where I am now, get in the way... To the best that I can, of course.

Six albums, three bands? Well, when I first joined this message board Appetite for Destruction was one of my favourite albums, now days it would scrape to make top ten.

Actually... I know for a fact that I wouldn't!, it's not even one of my favourite albums. It has nothing to do with my "maturing," but I now fully appreciate that things change... Everything changes.

Or at least, it can. And that most certainly did. I feel that the albums that I listed are ones that I really believe that I will want to revisit for the rest of my life. I can't say that for much more, because I just don't know.

But hey, even the Kinky Who Floydian of me may one day disappear as well.

Anyone read this book?

http://www.yourbrainonmusic.com/

I found it really interesting - it's written by a neuroscientist about why we like music. It gets a little technical at times but mainly it's very readable - he's also a musician and had a forme existence as a recording engineer with some pretty big names. I was expecting to be annoyed by it - like you say, it's personal preference - but he really addresses it from that point of view.

Haha, not half as far as the Kinks go. Fuck the Beatles (don't, actually), the Kinks were the band that linked them with the likes of the Who and the Stones. Just magnificient!

As for Floyd, the first Waters-less album was Momentary Lapse of Reason, which I'm not too familiar with to say the least. I really like the Division Bell though, the other one that they did without him. While the lyrics are a bit first draft (and severely lacking, in places) as an album it's great, and deserved of the Floyd name!

On the Kinks, check out Victoria, or actually, any of Arthur. Victoria is briliant, it's like hearing the Beatles really rock!, hence my saying that they are sort of the inbetween of the Beatles and the Stones/Who.

Maybe you just overplayed appetite?

I know i have, i barely listen to guns n roses at all. I still love them, and i love watching live bootlegs of them still. But i rarely listen to them at all because i think i played them so much in my early teen years. Sometimes ill have a sudden burst of listening to all there albums in a day. But i dont consistently listen to them loads now. Same with my favorite band of the 00s CRASHDIET i dont listen to them very often either anymore. Lately ive just been shooting out into various different genres, i checked out The Sisters of Mercy and really dug on them, yet i also checked out (yes they are cheesy but the songs are still good) Danger Danger and really dug on them also. Two totally different bands.

Another artist i used to listen to loads and now i never listen to, but still like, Marilyn Manson.

Im unsure if it is my stage of life or just over playing them.

Hmm. I've had a few beers. I just looked at your post again, you're definitely thinking of The Final Cut, which aye, was Waters last album. It's great, even if I'm not quite as familiar with it as some of the others (my speciality is the classic era (Dark Side to The Wall) and the Barrett stuff), I really like it. He actually played Southamption Dock and Fletcher Memorial Home when I say him the other day. The were briliant, though I did miss some of Fletcher because I needed the toilet...

... Terrible!, I know, but I knew that Perfect Sense and Sheep were coming up, and I wasn't having those ruined by my alcohol stained bladder!

I've done that thing where I reply twice to a post, one either side of the original posters reply to my reply. And everything's a mess. I'll try and rescue it.


I've wondered that for years. You're spot on when it comes to Appetite... At least that's what I thought at first. But it's been years since I was giving it a regular spin. When I was in around year 8/9 I used to have a playlist in WMP with AFD and both Illusions that I just used to repeat. I did it to death.

But the thing is, I do still revisit the Illusions. I love them!, though unfortunately that also means that I can hardly listen to them. Because I did indeed, play them to death. Such a shame...

Appetite is different though. I think that I was a different person at the time. I, too, used to love Marilyn Manson. Seriously, I was so into him. But now...

Not only is there no connection, but I find it difficult to discover why there ever was one. I mean, sure, Mechanical Animals is still fun to throw on now and again, but I wouldn't dream of touching Holy Wood. And I love that album.

Maybe I did play them to death? Maybe I am a different person...

Fuck me I hate reading my posts back. Eloquent I certainly ain't!

maybe we're just getting on a bit jim ;)

im 18 going 50 and your 21 going 70  :hihi:

And yes the final cut is the name of it. I havent listened to Floyd for quite some time. I must give them a blast again soon.

I think its because its, ok well supposed to be but this is england, summer, i often listen to more catchy fun rock music and funk because it just fits the feel of the day.

Whereas winter is when i listen to my more depressing weird music.

Alot of albums i love have lost appeal as of late, i fucking love Skid Row-Slave To The Grind but i rarely listen to it anymore, however, the other day i put it on start to finish after not listening to it for ages and it blew me away.

Im still very very into def leppard, ive been big into them for over a year now so i guess they are my current musical addiction which (sadly) ill probably over play and need to go listen to some other bands albums lots.

However, most of the albums i dont listen to often ,i do have the urge to go back to sometimes.

But some artists i dont think ill ever get back into, the nu-metal bands i liked when i was 10 till bout 13 i dont like at all now, i tried to listen to them recently n just couldnt find what i liked in them.

I guess I'm someone else who needs to join the list of, I played Appetite too much I can barely listen to it, I think it's purely down to caning the album to death, I mean I still like it and appreciate it if I hear it, but the WOW factors gone and I have no real urgency to play it these days.  It's good in a way, there's so much music to go through I don't have the time to be revisiting album after album, especially when I decide to get into bands with 20+ albums.....

Haha, don't, nail head and on and all that. I'm still working my way through Pink Floyd!

Heaven help me when I get into Dylan. What is he, pushing fifty albums?

Of original material I think it's in the 30-40 region.

I started down the Pink Floyd route about 3 or so years back.  Borrowed all my mates album and ripped 'em to my computer, but since that's blown up I'm back to square one, I do, intend to buy them....eventually, for now I'll just have to settle for my DVD of The Wall.

The Who has kind of been on my maybe list for a while, watching a UFC Vid today inspired me to download (and soon buy if I like it...) Who's Next after hearing Baba O'Reilly....I tink....something like that anyway.

On this must own albums list then, is it a must own now, or do we count ones we formerly thought you must own before overplaying and if you don't own them you obviously haven't caned them so you should own them, to get to the point of not really feeling the need to listen to them....

Haha (Christ, I almost typed lol there), it's looking more like the latter by the hour.

Aye!, Baba O'Reily be it, and it's a class opener to a classic album! Thinking about it, Who's Next also has possibly the best closer in rock history in Won't Get Fooled Again...

The Who are a fantastic band to get into because while there is clear progression their albums aren't leaps ahead or behind of each other... If you know what I mean. I mean, I would think that it is difficult to like just one Who album.

Also, Keith Moon pretty much taught me single handedly to really appreciate what a drummer can bring to a band! I know that it's almost cliche, but his drumming really is extraordinary and, in all honesty, I am yet to hear anybody (in a decent rock band...) that comes anywhere close.

Oh, and I'm still working on the Tom Petty. Picked up the double disc best of a while back. Given it a few spins, but not enough...

Well if you have a little spare cash (doubtful...at best), the Playback DVD is a nice companion, should be farely cheap on ol' play.com and his videos are very good.

On the subject of "must own" albums, aren't we better listing those that we consider must own but many may not, so this works as a suggestion thread for people rather than 10 pages of....

Number of the Beast
Appetite for Destruction
Black Album
Master of Puppets
Nevermind

etc.

I mean anyway who's ever picked up a few editions of classic rock at the right time of year or gone on the right website will have seen the annual cliched list of those must have albums which we all know about anyway....

....I mean I purposely put AT and SOG since they are different from the normal lists yet uber fantastic and as the title suggests....must own...so to speak.

strangely enough Jim i love alot of Tom Petty songs and i have a greatest hits disk and love all of that.

i did listen to two other albums recently, the torpedoes one and full moon fever and enjoyed them but didnt find myself really putting them on again. :S

I think the only era i may not be too keen on is the era where he uses alot of synths...it just sounds weird with his style and a bit dated since its very 80s keys sounding.

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Lets get back on subject here.

A lot of the albums that were listed aren't Must Owns in my opinion.

Oasis - What's the Story Morning Glory
Oasis - Definatley Maybe

those are 2 albums that are must owns...

several kinks albums aren't must owns, no matter how much you want to argue...

Also all of NIN's albums aren't all Must owns..

Well that's all subjective.  I HATE Oasis, so for me, those are must NOT owns.

And i would say they are XD, two great albums in my opinion.

Very subjective. No such thing as a must own album. Although a room full of bees sound better than Oasis. :P

Some opinions are laughable.




:smoking:

You what? Welcome to negative karma oblivion.

Who's Next is the first album that I ever listened to.

Do pick up the re-issue with the bonus tracks, you won't be disappointed.

lmao!

Damn that was harsh XD  :hihi:

I'm adding Sabotage by Black Sabbath to this list (if indeed we have a list here).

Get it. Right now.

Good choice, that album has some brilliant riffs on it for the time.

I love the badass cowbell riffage in....*forgets song title* but the song where its all slow n weird for a while, then the cowbell kicks in middle of the song and an amazing riff is played over it.

-19?

Forgive me for this expression however, I think this qualifies for a "LMFAO!!!1!!1!eleven!!!1!"

(in no order)

Nirvana - Nevermind
Nirvana - In Utero
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Guns N'Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Metallica - And Justice For All
Blind Melon - Soup
Daft Punk - Alive 2007
Mar1lyn Man5on - Mechanical Animals
Slayer - Seasons In The Abyss
The Cardigans - Gran Turismo
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - By The Way
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Californication
The Offspring - Ixnay On The Hombre
Life Sex & Death - The Silent Majority
Faith No More - King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime
Green Day - Dookie
R.E.M. - Monster
Nine Inch Nails - With_Teeth
Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
Nine Inch Nails - the downward spiral
Snow Patrol - Final Straw
Moby - Play
Moby - 18
Seal - Seal
Grace Jones - Island Life
Insane Clown Posse - The Great Milenko
Rolling Stones - Live Licks
Massive Attack - Mezzanine

..it's safe to say, I can't live without the above.  ;D

Motley Crue - Too Fast For Love
Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil
Guns N Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St.
Rolling Stones- Sticky Fingers
Rolling Stones- Let It Bleed
Pink Floyd- Dark Side Of The Moon
Pink Floyd- Wish You Were Here
Pink Floyd- The Wall
Led Zeppelin- IV
Marilyn Manson- Antichrist Superstar
Nine Inch Nails- Pretty Hate Machine
Johnny Cash- American IV
White Zombie- Astro Creep 2000
White Zombie- La Sexoricisto: Devil Music Volume 1
Black Sabbath- Master Of Reality
Ozzy- Blizzard Of Ozz
Ozzy- Diary Of A Madman
Pantera- Vulgar Display Of Power
Pantera- Far Beyond Driven
Pantera- Great Southern TrendKill
Danzig- self titled
Metallica- Ride The Lightning
Van Halen- self titled

im going to stop there,  but there are many many more. ;D

cool list zosobob6

good varied choices with some classic albums

Megalomania :headbanger:


zosobob added Ride The Lightning. I meant to mention that one too.

AFD is the only 'must own' album I can think of.... and maybe an Aerosmith 'Best Of' collection.

there are a few albums that i would call gauranteed albums, meaning that i'd be willing to refund you your money back (well, not really) if you bought it and honestly don't think it's good. some that come to mind:

GnR- appetite
Bowie- ziggy stardust
Clash- london calling
Elvis Costello- my aim is true
Pink Floyd- dark side
Rolling Stones- sticky fingers

Has anyone said Def Leppard's "High n' Dry"?

I didn't think so...

These.. at least..

Guns N' Roses - All of them
Aerosmith - Permanent Vacation
Aerosmith - Rocks
The Doors - Waiting For The Sun
The Doors - Strange Days
Foo Fighters - The Colour And The Shape
The Clash - London Calling
Peer G?nt - Backseat
Pearl Jam - Ten
Pearl Jam - Vs.
Izzy Stradlin & The Ju Ju Hounds - Izzy Stradlin & The Ju Ju Hounds
Hanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks Saigon Shakes
Hanoi Rocks - Back To Mystery City
Blind Melon - Soup
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Stadium Arcadium
Red Hot Chili Peppers - By The Way
Johnny Thunders - So Alone
Maukka Perusj?tk? - S?pin??
The Rolling Stones - Flowers
The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed
Hurriganes - Roadrunner
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols
Nirvana - Incesticide
Velvet Revolver - Contraband

Screaming Trees - Sweet Oblivion/Dust
Buckethead - Colma
Tom Waits - Heart of Saturday Night / Orphans
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Mark Lanegan - Whiskey for the Holy Ghost
Foo Fighters - Colour and the Shape
Aerosmith - Rocks
Johnny Cash - American IV
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Jeff Buckley - Grace
GnR - AFD

I don't believe anyone has mentioned Destroyer by KISS yet so I'll add that...