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Title: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Crowebar on February 19, 2008, 06:03:59 AM
I noticed the other day while reading the liner notes for Angel Down that Stuck Inside is credited to only W. Axl Rose and some other dude. Not Bach at all. I'm guessing/thinking Axl must have brought this song in and basically gave it to Baz to use for his album.

Possibly a throw-away tune that Axl never planned on using on his own album(s).  :-X

Anybody else notice this or have any info on whether this is true or perhaps I'm just misinformed??  :-\


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: downzy56 on February 19, 2008, 06:23:52 AM
Hey,

I believe Baz showed Axl the song in the studio and Axl started singing a melody line over what he was hearing.  Hence the song writing credit.  I don't think Axl wrote the basic structure of the song, only added his own parts.

Cheers,

Andrew


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: chriskon72 on February 19, 2008, 06:26:18 AM
I wouldn't doubt if it was, I haven't sat down with the linear notes. It has been by far my favorite song on the album since I got it. If it is I think it's awsome. Funny Baz didn't mention it, he seems to mention every other thing.


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: CheapJon on February 19, 2008, 06:37:52 AM
axl only wrote his own part, baz performed this song live long before there were even talks of axl singing on his record : ok:


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: MeanBone on February 19, 2008, 06:59:49 AM
Axl only did some "signature/songwriting screams" ahah

i guess sebastian is the only one who'd actually give credits for that type of contribution to a song


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Angel Down on February 19, 2008, 07:06:33 AM
Who wrote the line:

"Now you'll see I just need one more special thing"...

Johnny Chromatic?


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: CheapJon on February 19, 2008, 07:11:04 AM
Axl only did some "signature/songwriting screams" ahah
no he didn't only do some screamin'.. Axl wrote and sang these 2 lines and wrote them too since baz wasn't singing them when he sang it live..

I know your feelings changed

Peeling the layers of emotion away

he also added the screams and background vocals : ok:


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Angel Down on February 19, 2008, 07:12:52 AM
Can anyone else hear piano in the mix?


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: MeanBone on February 19, 2008, 07:20:30 AM
Axl only did some "signature/songwriting screams" ahah
no he didn't only do some screamin'.. Axl wrote and sang these 2 lines and wrote them too since baz wasn't singing them when he sang it live..

I know your feelings changed

Peeling the layers of emotion away

he also added the screams and background vocals : ok:

lol. i only said that because Sebastian said recently he co-wrote the majority of the Skid Row Songs, even though they were already done when he got in the band because he added his Signature Screams... like in 18 and life... he wanted credit for screams. cuz i guess he's a scream writer ahah


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: CheapJon on February 19, 2008, 07:33:59 AM
lol. i only said that because Sebastian said recently he co-wrote the majority of the Skid Row Songs, even though they were already done when he got in the band because he added his Signature Screams... like in 18 and life... he wanted credit for screams. cuz i guess he's a scream writer ahah

this is the GNR section on a GNR message board though.. find yourself a way to the skid row thread in bad obsession if you wanna talk about  skid row :)


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: MeanBone on February 19, 2008, 08:37:16 AM
lol. i only said that because Sebastian said recently he co-wrote the majority of the Skid Row Songs, even though they were already done when he got in the band because he added his Signature Screams... like in 18 and life... he wanted credit for screams. cuz i guess he's a scream writer ahah

this is the GNR section on a GNR message board though.. find yourself a way to the skid row thread in bad obsession if you wanna talk about  skid row :)

oh really? thanks for the news flash captain obvious, but in case you weren't paying that much attention, we were talking about Sebastian Bach's Album, and his comments were made recently in a promotion to his NEW cd. i guess a trained monkey could easily understand the line of thought of my post.

so find yourself something useful to do and avoid posting something before you comprehend what's actually being discussed in the first place   :beer:


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: CheapJon on February 19, 2008, 08:41:46 AM
lol. i only said that because Sebastian said recently he co-wrote the majority of the Skid Row Songs, even though they were already done when he got in the band because he added his Signature Screams... like in 18 and life... he wanted credit for screams. cuz i guess he's a scream writer ahah

this is the GNR section on a GNR message board though.. find yourself a way to the skid row thread in bad obsession if you wanna talk about  skid row :)

oh really? thanks for the news flash captain obvious, but in case you weren't paying that much attention, we were talking about Sebastian Bach's Album, and his comments were made recently in a promotion to his NEW cd. i guess a trained monkey could easily understand the line of thought of my post.

so find yourself something useful to do and avoid posting something before you comprehend what's actually being discussed in the first place   :beer:

no sir, we were talking about how axl contributed to the song "stuck inside"  : ok:


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: MeanBone on February 19, 2008, 09:01:54 AM
and the song is in Sebastian's Bach's New Album... wow, didn't this just sound redundant?!?!

give it a rest will ya?

i'm sure sure u can find better things to spend your time with than wasting it with pointless conversations. besides this is just distracting to the main thread. so i'm gonna go on with my life, and i hope you can do the same  :love:


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: gunns1 on February 20, 2008, 06:36:58 AM
and the song is in Sebastian's Bach's New Album... wow, didn't this just sound redundant?!?!

give it a rest will ya?

i'm sure sure u can find better things to spend your time with than wasting it with pointless conversations. besides this is just distracting to the main thread. so i'm gonna go on with my life, and i hope you can do the same  :love:

MeanBone has a point, and so does cheapjules imo
but at the end of the day, its something to talk about, and having something to talk about keeps the forum alive, and it helps if its soemthing related
to Guns N Roses
and in todays world, Sebastian Bach is as important to Gnr as Beta/Del etc.
He gives us news, keeps axl happy and so forth...

bot (back on topic)

Im pretty sure axl just added a few tidbits from the song,
btw, I know what Im about to say just sounds like its dribble and dated, but does anyone actually think that
Eddie Trunk interview in 06 was as SPUR of the moment as we are led to believe.
I mean, that year Baz opened for axl, and the following year axl is on baz's cd, and baz is the spokesperson for gnr (unofficially)
And they become best of mates, and neither Baz Nor Axl were seen/spoken about being together before the interview,
as if the interview was a launch pad for baz and axl duo,
anyways sorry if its offtopic, Its just I wouldnt want to start a thread about this... seeing as it might get moved/whatever

cheerz


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Angel Down on February 20, 2008, 06:58:04 AM
And they become best of mates, anyways sorry if its offtopic, Its just I wouldnt want to start a thread about this... seeing as it might get moved/whatever

cheerz

 ??? What the hell are you talking about?

Sebastian and Axl go waaaaaaaayyyyyy back.  :yes: Childhood mates....  :yes:

Bach's Polish.


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: gunns1 on February 20, 2008, 07:14:28 AM
what I meant was

Why Didnt baz and axl "reunite" so to speak in 01/02

anyways, just an observation...
nothing is ever what it seems

sorry people, just having a chin wag,
bak on topic


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Mr. Redman on February 20, 2008, 12:23:35 PM
And they become best of mates, anyways sorry if its offtopic, Its just I wouldnt want to start a thread about this... seeing as it might get moved/whatever

cheerz

 ??? What the hell are you talking about?

Sebastian and Axl go waaaaaaaayyyyyy back.  :yes: Childhood mates....  :yes:

Bach's Polish.

They didn't know each other 'till they were in their twenties. And seriously, STFU 'bout polish this n' that.


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Angel Down on February 20, 2008, 01:40:30 PM
IF you can post where you got that information from, that would be interesting to read.


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Mr. Redman on February 20, 2008, 06:12:23 PM
Well, post where ya heard they were childhood friends.

It's kinda easy to figure out - Axl's from Indiana, Baz was born in the Bahamas and raised in Ontario, Canada. And Axl is also six years older then Baz.


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: PJ on February 20, 2008, 06:17:14 PM
the song was written by johnny chromatic
axl only wrote the lines he sings


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Angel Down on February 20, 2008, 08:45:43 PM
Bach's father did the cover artwork for the Angel Down CD.

The CD notes read:

COVER: "A Eulogy To Art, David Watching, To Fantin Latour" by David Bierk (RIP 1944-2002).

Bach's father was born in Warsaw in 1944, during the Warsaw Uprising. My great aunt saved his parents who were trapped, "stuck inside"  a cellar that was being bombarded. Bach's grandmother was going into labour.....

Bierk is a Polish name.


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Mr. Redman on February 20, 2008, 09:29:16 PM
And we care why? Does anyone really care what nationality Bach is? I highly doubt it.

And everyone knows that his father did the cover.

I'm still waiting for you to post the info on Bach n' Axl being "childhood" friends.


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on February 20, 2008, 09:54:41 PM
Johnny Chromatic is one of the guitarists in Bach's band.  Axl wrote the lines from his part of the song and that's it.  Johnny Chromatic wrote the rest of the song. 


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Crowebar on February 21, 2008, 05:41:15 AM

It's kinda easy to figure out - Axl's from Indiana, Baz was born in the Bahamas and raised in Ontario, Canada. And Axl is also six years older then Baz.

Baz was raised in the city of Peterborough, Ontario. The same city I was born and raised in. It's pretty far from Indiana.


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Mr. Redman on February 21, 2008, 10:26:53 AM

It's kinda easy to figure out - Axl's from Indiana, Baz was born in the Bahamas and raised in Ontario, Canada. And Axl is also six years older then Baz.

Baz was raised in the city of Peterborough, Ontario. The same city I was born and raised in. It's pretty far from Indiana.

Yeah, exactly, but Stolat swore they were childhood friends.


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: ppbebe on February 21, 2008, 10:28:36 AM
maybe they were net board mates. :hihi:

on topic, axl says
"when Bas played the third track, "Stuck Inside," he suggested a kind of call-and-answer part. They allowed me the freedom to write my own words and melodies, and although it's only a couple of lines, it really felt great. The song has such a mean riff, and....."


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: CheapJon on February 21, 2008, 10:38:24 AM

It's kinda easy to figure out - Axl's from Indiana, Baz was born in the Bahamas and raised in Ontario, Canada. And Axl is also six years older then Baz.

Baz was raised in the city of Peterborough, Ontario. The same city I was born and raised in. It's pretty far from Indiana.

Yeah, exactly, but Stolat swore they were childhood friends.

In the interview with trunk baz talks about the first time he heard of gnr and it was at a time he was in a band called madam x i think, and he was in a  mall and he saw a magazine with axl or something and axl had this big hair but his pants or something said glam sux, and that pissed baz off :hihi:


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Crowebar on February 21, 2008, 05:02:52 PM

It's kinda easy to figure out - Axl's from Indiana, Baz was born in the Bahamas and raised in Ontario, Canada. And Axl is also six years older then Baz.

Baz was raised in the city of Peterborough, Ontario. The same city I was born and raised in. It's pretty far from Indiana.

Yeah, exactly, but Stolat swore they were childhood friends.

Ummm...   sorry but, that just didn't happen.  :no:

And Axl had 'Glam Sucks' on his t-shirt when Baz first saw Axl on that magazine cover for the first time in his life.


Title: Re: 'Stuck Inside' written by Axl???
Post by: Mr. Redman on February 21, 2008, 06:30:19 PM

It's kinda easy to figure out - Axl's from Indiana, Baz was born in the Bahamas and raised in Ontario, Canada. And Axl is also six years older then Baz.

Baz was raised in the city of Peterborough, Ontario. The same city I was born and raised in. It's pretty far from Indiana.

Yeah, exactly, but Stolat swore they were childhood friends.

Ummm...   sorry but, that just didn't happen.  :no:

And Axl had 'Glam Sucks' on his t-shirt when Baz first saw Axl on that magazine cover for the first time in his life.

Yeah, I know that, but Angel Down doesn't.

And Axl had "Glam Sucks" on his leather pants, written in whiteout.