Here Today... Gone To Hell!

My country isn't (which says a lot) and the three countries should hook up together.
We'd fill each other out in wealth and resources (i am not sure what the danish have tho :hihi: ) and scandinavia is a paradise to live in compared to the rest of the world.

I think most Sweeded citisens is against EU too?

Fuck leaving it, they should take it over.  Once they take over, who will lead...why Jarmo of course!   :beer:

Yes we are, we just don't have any say in matters. EU regulations and taxes are constantly being put on us.

And yes, everybody should leave that stinking union. I like to say: Germany lost the war, so they created the EU instead.

i love the EU
i hate the UK
don't make me hate scandinavia .....

Why the Hate towards the UK? The most tolerant country in the EU!

Nah...

maybe because the police shootings after the metro bombings.

Wild guess.

If that is the reason, I sympathise. Although the same sympathy should be shared to the families who were blown up by citizens who had been given been given the benefit to live in such a free and liberal country.

There is a reason the country is called GREAT Britain....

Sorry for the off-topic.

Nah that title goes to the Netherlands...

Tolerating something something mean you don't actually support or understand or accept what you are tolerating - you are merely tolerating - (or putting up with something).

Tolerating is really mapping out the boundaries of the ghetto.

Then welcome to the EU!   That is what being a member is all about. Taking the rough with the smooth. The UK has kept it's identity only through its currency.

The UK is flooded with people from EU countries, I accept this because our governed decision members felt it was the best for the country. I don't see British people at the borders of Poland and Romania trying to get it.

No, you see the British buying houses in Spain.





/jarmo

Ok. Good answer Jarmo.

You will find however that they will still contribute financially into that economy.

Like I said being part of the EU is taking the rough with the smooth.

Some days you are the pigeon other days the statue!!

That would be because of the war. You see although the Poles fought and won the Battle of Britain for the Brits and fought alonside them as allies when it came to the Victory Day parades all the Polish servicemen and women were banned from marching because Poland was now at war with Russia and Chamberlin didn't want to offend Stalin.

It's a war thing..........

In Australia there has been a strong multicultural presence since the 1950's. We've have some good Prime Ministers who have put forward some excellent policies on multiculturalism. The word tolerance has been used alot in Australia. Government and school documents talking about "Australians living free in this country where all cultures are tolerated" blah, blah.

In the 70s it was "where all cultures are celebrated"!

I am of a different background living in this country and it is almost hurtful to hear "that my culture is being tolerated".

See the EU needs to not tolerate all cultures but also repect what they have to bring to the table.

Don't let it be another war thing..............the Poles did not deserve that treatment from the British after the war. thanks for nothing!

(In memory of the Warsaw Uprising 1st August 1944)!

stolat start a fucking own thread about polands history and stop hijacking others :rant:

and that goes for people talking about fucking britain too, but they don't bring it up in every thread!

Yes, they stubbornly stuck with the name even after losing the entire empire. Oh, you mean there's another reason?

no, Norway should join the EU...that way it will be easier for me as a Norwegian to get a staying permit within the EU. wont have to keep thinking about going to the awfully horrible city hall ever so often and have it renewed, its a real pain in the ass since the government in this country is madly in love with paperwork.

Edit; yeah I agree CheapJon....Stolat, stop bringing Poland up in all topics, and thereby bringing things off-topic, and just make a thread about Poland already. : ok:

yeah well the UK doesnt want to be part of the EU, and generally most of the people dont want all the immigrants coming over here getting easy cash from our government which our tax's (and mine when im old enough hehe) pay for.

The country many will agree, not all but many, has gone downhill since they let way way way too many immigrants in, even an chinese guy who runs the local chinese complained to me they have let too many in, which in one way was amusing and the other quite frightening.

Sounds like the usual story; last year's immigrants trying to close the door on next year's.

I did it for her http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=48006.0

now let's talk about the EU situation in scandinavia.


I think it would be better if norway joined.. why not?

they're the USA lapdog
they've slown down europe like madness
they didnt play with the team
they ruined the EU


i know the EU dont work so well anyway, but UK and all these extremist right wing eastern europe countries have messed it up big time. i can't believe they've accepted american prisons on their soil, i can't believe they want strategic american missiles on their soil.

british people can be nice, but i cannot take their country.

And for the puroposes of this discussion Poland has always seen itself as central europe.

I'm not sure why the UK is part of the EU anyway (Okay, I do know why, money!). The British, in general, have no interest in being part of Europe (too busy arguing over which tiny country within the tiny country of Britain is worst (It's Wales, by the way))  and their politicians have no ideas of their own on the (any) issue as their foreign policy is dictated by D.C.

The EU would have a better chance of working if they kicked the UK out (and a whole bunch of other countries) and focused on getting western/central Europe on its feet before throwingthe doors open to eastern European countries who, at this stage, have little to offer and little to gain from membership.

They should begin by instituting a pre-season draft. Drop the UK, take Norway.

Yes, for anyone else but the Norwegians themself :P
A thoroughly corrupt, bureaucratic and chaotic union? No thanks, we wan't our liberal and peaceful little world to prevail.

Look at the rest of the world what multi-culturealism has done. Sweeden and Denmark should leave. Both the population wan'ts that too (hello democracy). :hihi:

wow ...is norway a fat selfish lonely kid ?

Who wants to leave the ducted heating - it means that you actually have to put clothes on! ^  :hihi:

No, i'm slim, healthy and am happy with my social network but whats your point, throwing insults for something or joking? :peace:

Hello food prices.  :hihi:


Food prices in Sweden are high compared to the rest of EU, but for Norwegians, Swedish prices are low.

I remember paying $12 for a Whopper with a soda and fries in Oslo last summer.

You Norwegians can keep that to yourselves.



I think most Swedes (as well as Danes) are happy to be part of the European family.


Did you ask all the Norwegians who come to Sweden to buy groceries and booze what they think of the European Union?  :hihi:



Maybe Norway and Switzerland can be in their own little union? The "we don't want to be part of the EU but we want the benefits anyway" union.  :hihi:


/jarmo

Thats not food, but yes the food is super-expensive...and oh my the taxes
scandivania would have same role regardles of EU or not, it's not nessesarly us who benefits of our membership :P

What you don't seem to understand that we voted to join the EU. That was a democratic process.

You voted "no".







/jarmo

nothing to do with the empire my boy (unless you mean the Angevine empire) (and obviously the empire is not 'lost' either). The name Great Britian is not a reference is to how brilliant  the country is, rather a description of its size in relation to the region in northern France called Brittany, which shares historical links with vafious english royal houses.

For the purposes of being a wiseass, it makes more sense to go with commonly understood touchstones of vaguely recent origin rather than obscure regional historical fact. But thanks for the history class flashback, a reminder of how tedious European history has been for a good 1000 years.

Yeh, knocking down the Berlin Wall, so tedious......

So you're stuck now aren't you :hihi:

There been several meaning-checks afterwords in Sweeden as I know and the majority didn't wan't it anymore.
How represntative that is one don't know.
thats funny cause it's true too :hihi:

Ask them why they want out or what the alternative is and they have no answer.



/jarmo

What you talking about? I have an great idea! :P
sweeden has science, technology and industri...it's an great independent country. Not sure about danes...what DO you have actually? :hihi:

Norway has oil and fish, but we really not wanna spew more fossile fuel into the world so lets say fish and black metal :yes:

You've got your ducted heating up too high!  :hihi:

Sweden and Norway already had an union and it didn't work either.



/jarmo

I find it hard to get wet in the pants over symbolic masonry. The decline of the Soviet Union is as about as interesting to me as the political machinations of the Holy Roman Empire of the Germanic Nation. 

Yeah, and now EU! :hihi:

We wan't our indepence and look at the laws, it seems the human rights conventions copy-pasted those.
I can't see where the benefits is, other than"whats the alternative"

We're fine without the union :peace:

Are you saying the EU is against human rights?




/jarmo

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the EU is the only hope the world has to counter the US ... if it comes down to it.

Yes, they will be needed to bring out the Universal Law measuring stick if need be.

Killing is bad, m'ok.....etc.

Do you know that the Russia was never tried for the murders at Katyn!
The Poles asked the Bristish to include this at Nuremburg but they said no!

I say we draw the line at Istanbul. Everything east of there is fair game. Agreed?

And thus the final conflict is averted.

yeah, i'm saying EU is against human rights...to expensive food! :hihi:

we don't wan't a world with fat, dysfunctional and violent people do we :P

Yes, they can all eat cake!  ;D

man, why drag the US in to this :hihi:

It sounds as it but i'm not a racists or anything just to make that clear, but this modern western culture is a BIG decline and EU doesn't help at all. :peace:no, I won't take the blame for that one :hihi:

oh fuck .... man i completly missed that your login name IS norway .... i was talking about the country not you. my bad.

it was just that the argument your put forward were very selfish, fear-fed and conservative ....

No problems with that :peace:

Did you mean Constantinople? :hihi:

Depends how old your Atlas is, I suppose.  :hihi: In the interests of reaching an agreement, let's say Byzantium.

Agreed, To the ressurection of the Byzantine Empire? :beer:

Why am I singing Alice's "Unholy War" in my head? (from The Last Temptation)..

but, then again no one else has

Wonder why that is........

Germany, Russia and Austria have all wanted a slice of her!