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spaghetti_incident wants to gain some weight. Well, I need to loose some. I'm going to Germany for a few weeks this summer and would like to slim down for the trip.

Any tips?

Yeep :

BREAKFAST
1 slice of cereal toast
1 slice of low fat ham
1 fat free yogurt OR 1 handful of fresh strawberries/raspberries
1 coffee tea w skimmed milk and sweetner if you need it

LUNCH:

3 times a week, pasta/potato/rice, but no more than 100 grams COOKED ( convert, can't be bothered)
3 times a week, red meat but no more than 120 grams.
You can associate the two.
The rest of the time, low fat fishes, chicken ( without the skin) and veggies ( no carrots, no onions, no avocado,...stay to salad, leeek, green beans, GREENS), cooked in a pan without any fat or microwave cooked.
And after EACH LUNCH, a low fat yogurt.

DINER

Veggie soup
GREENS
Fish or chicken
A low fat yogurt
Strawberries or Melon or Raspberries

I lost 30 kilos this way.

A) How long did it take you to loose 30KG?
B) Did you exercise at all?

Thanks.

1 year
No, but i took care of my newborn so some would say it is endurance... :hihi:

See it's hard either way to be thin or overweight.

It's harder being overweight.

Sick thin people are labelled fashionable, in the jet set, it is right to be thin and have a fake tan or a real one if you can afford to ibiza i nthe summer, istanbul after, st barth at xmas, ski in feb  etc etc etc....

Being fat is not fashionable, you can't find clothes, you have a harder time finding love, finding work and everything is slow because every physical move is harder.

Interestingly, the key to weight loss is also similar to weight gain. Lift weights and eat many smaller meals throughout the day. You can get away with eating less per meal because regular feedings keep the body reasonably satiated, even if they add up to less than maintenance levels. It's about insulin management. It's helpful to make a protein shake for a meal substitute, mainly for convenience purposes.

As for weight training, take very short or no breaks between sets, and lift for higher reps and more power and speed, not slow, heavy lifts. For cardio, do HIIT. Run like hell for a minute, rest moderately for a minute, and then sprint again, and so on. This has lasting effects on the metabolism that make it competitive with long duration cardio. I like it because I would rather run hard for 15 minutes than run soft for an hour, so I have more time for other things. ;)

75 carbs for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and 45 carb for a snack.


with this simple diet you will shed pounds like you will never belive

Total? Or 75 for each meal?

Yes, I cut out ALL soda and sugary drinks. I lost alot of weight. Also try to exercise. Soda pretty much empty calories so cutting out soda can get rid of tons of useless calories right there

Id also say eat in moderation. Like limit your food intake. You can eat what you want, but just dont eat huge portions.

I don't drink regular coke anymore (well hardly ever) but whats bad about diet?  Coke Zero tastes great and has next to nothing in it (no calories, no sugar, etc...).  I am pretty sure its low in sodium too.

i lost A LOT of weight by eating more fruit and A LOT more fiber.  In 3-4 weeks I lost about 8-10 lbs.  I was running/lifting about 2-3 times a week.  But the diet is what did it.  I would still eat sweets, but literally a bite or two here and there, definitely not everyday.

as someone else said, the fat free/low fat yogurt with some fruit/honey/granola was a great snack that satisfied my sweet tooth.

i would say don't count every calorie you ingest, but keep an approximate running total.  you can't go cold turkey with the things you like to eat either, just eat them in moderation.  and mix it up too.  if you are dieting and eating the same thing over and over again its not going to last.  mix it up, have fun, try new foods.  same with exercise, if you're doing the same thing every week it'll get old fast and it'll start to become work instead of something you enjoy.

i've fallen off the wagon pretty bad the last few weeks but i havent' gained much of the weight back - still i fell into some of the traps i just listed above and its made it a little harder to stick to, but i know i'll get back into it once work slows down a bit.

I think he meant 750. If not, he's stupid.

each meal bud  : ok:

I lost 25 pounds in about 4 months, and it was very simple.

1.) I ate 2000 calories/day
---this amount should be good for any man over 175 lbs., though you can lower it if it doesn't work for you
---I didn't worry about WHAT I ate, because it's tough to eat high fat foods and hit this mark...if you're hitting this mark over three daily meals, then you're probably eating fairly well

2.) I walked for 1 hour on a treadmill, 2-3 times a week

3.) I did some weight training, because muscle burns calories
---if you JUST weight train, you might see the strange phenomenon where you weigh MORE but your clothes fit looser

Here's the best tip you'll ever get:

Throw out your scale.  Weight training is a great way to tone up and get in the best shape of your life.  Combine with cardio.  You may "gain" weight, but I think what you want to do is look slimmer, yes?

I agree, about the clothes that is (i'd keep the scale around, but I wouldn't obsess over it).  If your pants are looser and your shirts are fitting better thats always a great indicator of weight loss/toning up. 

Freedom has it right too, just count your calories.  I wouldn't recommend counting every single one, but if you ballpark it and do some light exercise you will start losing weight and it'll happen fast (especially for men).

To get a good calorie ballpark, there are a number of calorie calculators, most of which need to know your gender, weight, and height.  Then, if you tell them that you get ZERO exercise, you'll learn the amount of calories you can burn, for your gender weight and height, if you lay in bed all day, doing nothing but having dissolved food pumped into you and breathing.  If you're under that or, say, you choose to sit up in bed, you'll lose weight. 

lots of water !! maybe 2/3 L a day...the more water you drink the less hungry you are.

after each meal stick your fingers down your throat until you throw up

or

buy some cocain

 : ok:

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yeah girls should do cocain to lose wieght, all models do that, must work ...












i kid i kid ! :)

Good luck to all those trying to lose weight. I'm in the same boat, it's harder than people think. It's a mindset as much as anything else.  What i wouldn't do though, is go on faddy diets such as Atkins. Just doesn't make sense if you want to be healthy...

Also be careful of things that seem innocent, such as a Starbucks Cappucino. I was looking yesterday and I was shocked, A whole milk Venti Cappucino  has 10grams of fat in it! A skimmed milk version has None.

My problem is getting into the mindset for the Gym... It's a confidence thing, but i have started going for long walks and weights at home ect.  So i just think... don't beat yourself up about it all. Find your own way at first and get into a routine.  But be sensible and be good - at least most of the time, then give urself a treat once in a while.   


 

Fruits and veggies take up a majority of my diet, and lots of water. Im also a vegetarian. I run 2 miles and go on the eliptical every night and lift weights 2-3 days a week.

The best way to loose some weight is :
1-Go to a nutritionist doctor and he?ll tell you what to eat, and how to eat in a healthy way.
2- Do exercise. Those two things together DO work,believe me!

The secret is not about eating less or about eating low-cal food but to eat healthy ;).

start smoking.? :P i heard that drops your extras, because it takes your hunger away. Of course it's very unhealthy.
start doing some exercises regylarly, like walk 3km a day, go to the gym and ask some advices from a personal trainer etc... that should work.? :yes: of course some dietchanges also, like, less fastfoods, more greens, no booze... i think that's the easiest and fastest way.? :yes:

I've always heard that weight loss/body shaping results are 20% exercise and 80% nutrition (supposedly).  A friend of mine said this - don't look at a diet as depriving yourself... start adding healthy things first - water, fruits and vegetables, etc.  Add the good things, as opposed to stopping all of the bad things.  Look to cut 100 calories a day initially, as opposed to 400 or 500.  If you drink soda, drink water instead, so the sacrifice isn't that big.  Make little changes so you won't get overwhelmed. 
Regarding exercise, you have to look at it as non-negotiable.  You exercise several times a week (walking is a good one) no matter what.  You don't even give yourself the option to not work out.
Good luck to you.

1. Stop drinking beer, or any alcohol
2. Eat no more than 2 meals a day, preferably breakfast and a lunch about 2-3 pm. Small portions. (it gets easier  as time goes on)
3. Walk at least 2 miles  a day

You will lose at least 10 pounds in 3 weeks, maybe 15 pounds in a month.

nononono! Never start eating less! like natasha23 said, start adding healthy food!  :yes: If you start eating less, you're going to be anorectic.  :-X But yeah, no booze or any alcohol.  : ok:

Healthy Balanced Diet + Plenty of Exercise and you are sorted.....

I have a terrible diet. Ive had a very bad diet for years.

but LUCKILY, ive never paid the price n always had a average body build, more towards the thin side.

I just have a beer belly (annoyingly). However, seeing as i know the jeans are getting tighter now, and i cant continue to have such a diet any longer, cause im 18 now. So it will take its toll in a few years if i dont shape up.

So, im going to attempt, to cut all snacks out of my diet. Attempt to cut all fizzy pop out. And just drink pure orange juice, n apple juice. N try to stick to toast for dinner. N tea would just be. Pasta type foods, big soupl (its got all vegetables in n shit).....and since i couldnt go on without it, curry haha!.

Reckon it will work? Or am i shooting a dead horse. See i struggle to eat any fruit or vegetables. As i gag at the vile textures they have if hard.

I don't like fruits or veggies either.

it's pretty easy to lose a couple of pounds, I weighed 92-93 kilos last summer, decided to lose some and did fast, have been steady at about 89 since then, gonna trim it down to at least 86 til the summer, if you want it, it's easy.. and of course the easiest thing is to lose it, the hard thing is to "stay at the wanted weight"

I am one of those lucky ones if you want to call it that, I have pretty much always been able to eat whatever and whenever without consiquence all my life.  I weigh 110lbs today at almost 44.  On the other hand, I have two girls who have struggled to keep their girlish shapes since they were about 8 and 9.  My younger girl will be going to cullunary school after graduation next year, she loves to cook but is pretty health conscience. Tallness is not about in our family either, I am 5'4 husband 5'6 and girls are 5'2 and 5'4.

What has seemed to work for the girls the most is definately small meals through out the day, more like snacking through the day. It seems to keep their metabolism ticking properly.  These small snacks  are based on healthy foods everyone has already mentioned above. They try to end their day with their main meal being dinner.  Nothing after 7pm.

I would like to address the fact that what may work well for some may not work well for others, there is no doubt that eating healthier, and some excersize is where I would start. ;) Good Luck to you!!

breakfast on banana and dance while listening to cd.



what? you gotta be like 6 feet tall.

Eat Breakfast and Don't Drink your calories

Little things like limiting refined sugars and switching everything to wheat helps also.

Wheat bread and buns, wheat pasta.

Gym work of course is a must.



that is a great starting point.

aren't basically all pasta made of wheat? Pasta made of rye is better, not as good though


yup, 6'1 i think, (around 185 cm)

banana is the answer.


then you weren't so overweighted/obese.

never said i was  ;) just wanted to lose a few, mrlee aint that fat either :hihi:

Im just a bit porky on the stomach  :hihi:

My thighs, well, like Axl im short, so i have Axl Rose thighs. So that doesnt bother me XD

1. Eat a lot of small healthy meals (5 meals per day, 3 of them just fruits/salads).

Start with breakfast, eat some fruit at 10-11 am, lunch at 1-2 pm, fruit/salad at 4-5 pm, fruit/salad for dinner. It will keep your metabolic rate high. The worst thing you can do is skip meals or don't eat at all. Your metabolism will adjust and will drop fast.

2. With regards to what you will eat (apart from fruits/vegetables) there are 2 ways to go:low fat or low carbohydrate diets. Both diets have been proven to be equally effective in the long term. In order to lose weight faster, go with the low carbohydrate diets (e.g. the Atkins diet or other variants).

3. Try eating at the same time each day, never skip meals, cut down on alcohol and avoid junk food at all costs (especially for dinner).

4. Exercise like a madman. Avoid anaerobic exercise (e.g. weight-lifting) and focus on aerobic exercise (e.g. running). Try to run for 45-60 mins 4 times a week.

5. Keep in mind that the human body under normal conditions simply cannot burn more than 800-900 grams of fat per week. It's a matter of biochemistry and physiology. So don't have greater expectations.


If you abide to these rules religiously, you will lose about 3,5 kilograms of fat per month. Good luck : ok:

I think this is what gets lost on most people... you have to be willing to make permanent changes to your lifestyle.  Cutting all junk food and eating tiny meals so you can get to a target weight, only to pile it all back on a year or two later is pointless.  Ironically, this is what keeps a lot of "diet" companies / books / programs rolling.

This is pretty much all you need:

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alternately, how about gaining height? :P


and CheapJon will have successfully lost all his weight in 2 years time. by then msaxl and mrlee will weight like minus 80lbs. good luck :hihi:

msaxl is not playing this game, she just got back from Mcdonalds, now that's a good way to gain : ok:

Five.

Five dollar footlooooong.

Jumping helps me keep those pesky pounds off.

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You don't look as if you need to be worried :no: Have you ever fallen off of your bed while doing this?

That's not my bed!  :hihi:

It's a crappy bug-infested bed at the YMCA in Brooklyn!  :rofl:  I slept with one eye open.

the man is a walking stick. you have to be careful when you hug him or else you'll break him  :hihi:

stop hug him man :smoking:

Get yourself a bigger bed dude or a race car bed ; your worth it.  Don't sell yourself short splurge because the compound fracture you can save may be yours.....

IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!

:idea:
is that w.axl.rose's bed?

If you start eating less it's  not that you're going to be anorexic necessarily. It will actually be harder for you to lose weight because your body will go into shock and hang on to every bit of fat/carb/calorie it can and convert it into fat to hang on to as reserve for when you starve again.

Lifting weights and having a quick release whey protein right after is actually much better for slimming down than cardio because the amount of calories you burn in order to break down the protein and convert it into amino acids to repair your muscles is a lot more than you would if you jogged.
The only thing is that you have to keep in mind with weight lifting that you want to see a difference in inches, not pounds because muscle weighs more than fat.

I have the exact opposite problem. I can't get past 140lbs. I was 115 in september, put on 25 pounds in 4 weeks. Now i'm fluctuating around 130/135. I've hit a wall and I can't get above 140. But I have an overactive metabolism :-(

Someone mentioned that weight gaining is similar to losing weight. They're right. You should eat something every couple of hours. You just have to watch what you eat. Proportion control is key. You want to feed yourself every few hours to get your metabolism sped up.

A lot of the times most people have trouble with their metabolism because everyone's lower intestines have so much buildup in them just accumulated over the years, sometimes anywhere upto 10lbs of junk just sitting there. Take 10 Billion CFU of Acidophilus and a lot of fiber every day for a month to get all that shit (quite literally) out of your system.

Also helps- CLA: Conjugated Lineloic Acid. Basically it blocks bad fats from your food and flushes out bad fat from your body. A lot of  bodybuilders will start taking it a month of two before their shows because they spend all year bulking up and getting big and start "shrinkwrapping" a couple of months before the shows so their muscles pop out more.

hope it helps.

I got one tip to lose weight. It requires absolutely no exercise and it's quaranteed to work!

1. Put a person in a box
2. Take the person out when the required weightloss is acquired.

I even made a cool pic to demonstrate this new, more efficient, way of losing weight.

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sounds unhealthy but the pic is cool with warm colouring.  he somehow even grows his arms in the box.
you drew it?

i think his arms get shorter, when he was fat they were hanging along his body all the way to the waist, now they are hanging free to the waist, if you would have measured his "wingspan" the fat body's would be bigger

I wasn't noticing.

but still I am not sure about the length of his unseen arms.

so the slim guy got fat eating himself in the box, right? ???

it's all about calories. it takes about 3,500 calories to lose a pound. you're gonna burn roughly 2,000 calories a day just by being alive. eat 1,500 calories a day and you'll lose a pound a week.

look online to get a good estimate of how many calories you're actually burning a day.

and if you're doing this long-term, add some training so you don't lose too much muscle mass. 

it is not that simple. first of all the BMR (basal metabolic rate, ie the calories your body burns per day in a hypothetical situation where you don't move and stay emotionally calm) will drop fast if you cut down on calorie intake.
second, the goal should not be to "lose calories" but to lose calories by burning fat. when you starve, the primary source of energy supply is glycogen breakdown (stored in muscles and liver), not fat breakdown. so basically you will end up "losing more muscle than fat" to put it simply. if you want to lose weight and maintain your ideal weight you should change your lifestyle (eat healthy and do aerobic exercise), not just "cut sown" on calorie intake.

Stop eating so fucking much.

There.

You can eat more and lose weight, you just have to eat the right things.

finally, a brethren!

I just don't get why people cry and moan that losing weight is so hard. A strict diet with high protein and total caloric value less than what you need for maintenance + Cardio = Weight Loss. It's not rocket science people...

Well, sure it's hard.

What I don't understand is the bullshit about genes, big bones, slow metabolism etc.

I mean those are just excuses to be lazy. That it's impossible to lose weight. I mean c'mon it's that attitude that makes it difficult.

It's hard if you break your diet. Follow a few simple rules and you will lose weight. It's not 'impossible' like I've heard some people claim.

re-read my post. you said the same thing i did, only tried to make it more confusing.

your BMR will not drop THAT fast. you would lose several pounds. and staying 300-500 calories below is NOT starving.

it really is that simple. it's all about burning calories anyway you slice it. but if people realized this, how would the weight loss/personal trainer/fitness industry make their billions???

going on a poor diet can cause serious damages. The brain, the pivotal organ of body,  lives on saccharides,  and when it's short of them, it decides that it's a famine time, better restrict any activity that takes calories like metabolism and orders the body to stores energy as fat.

actually i read it very carefully. obviously you didn't read mine, cause we don't say the same thing.

Actually we say quite the opposite. you say that in order to lose weight one should cut down on calorie intake and I strongly disagree since it is the most unhealthy and ineffective way to lose weight, which of course you will gain rapidly once you go back to your normal diet.

1.first when i meant starvation i didn't mean it literally. in biochemistry and medicine starvation/fasting refers to the metabolic phase that the hormone glucagon is secreted. basically when you eat, insulin is secreted, promoting energy storage. stop eating for 4 hours and glucagon is secreted, promoting energy breakdown. eat once per day and basically your body is starving/fasting almost the whole day.

2.it is not about burning calories in general. it is about burning calories by burning fat. of course you will lose weight if your calorie intake is less than your calorie consumption, but your weight loss will result mainly from muscle breakdown and not many people want that. so if you cut down on calorie intake, you will end up losing more muscle than fat

3. stop eating and your BMR will drop in 2 weeks, that's pretty fast. and once you will go back to your normal diet,you will gain weight rapidly, as your body will have adjusted to the reduced amount of food.

4. trust me, biochemistry is faaar from simple : ok:

wow. i don't even know how to respond to this comment.


why are you even bringing up "not eating" or "eating once/twice per day." i never suggested that. your whole argument starts with an assumption of laying in bed doing nothing every day. that's all BMR measures. why are you ignoring AMR? cause the reality is you burn more calories than your BMR.

yes, if you're BMR is 1,800 and you eat 1,300 a day, it's not healthy. and i never suggested that.

BUT if your BMR is 1,800, plus you're moderately active and you burn another 600 calories a day, eating 2,000 calories a day is a GREAT WAY to lose weight. totally healthy and it WILL work. and 2,000 calories a day is hardly starving.

it's all about calories.

ok let's agree to disagree. so go on and eat 2000 calories of fat per day and burn 3000 calories per day.
of course you will lose weight, but you will increase your fat tissue and decrease your lean tissue, which of course is unhealthy. losing weight  in a healthy way has very little to do with calorie intake-it has much more to do with what you eat and how much you exercise.
If it was that simple to lose weight in a healthy way, everyone would just cut their meals in half and things would magically happen. Unfortunately if you decrease your calorie intake your body will adjust and when you go back to your normal eating habits you will gain weight rapidly.