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Title: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: smeagol2124 on October 15, 2006, 11:12:20 AM
Didn't see this posted anywhere.. There is a new GNR commercial that was on tv last night, featuring the first 30 seconds of Paradise City.? It has a bunch of black sheep breaking away from different sheep herds, then they gather in a town where there just happens to be a sigh that says "Welcome Harley riders" or something like that.? It was a very cool commercial, and was shown at least 3 times during the Nascar race on NBC.? Since that was the most watched tv program last night in the US, that is good pub.? I just wish it hadn't featured an "old" song, but anything is better then nothing.?


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: axlrose on October 15, 2006, 11:21:04 AM
its not new but its not that old either


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: horsey on October 15, 2006, 11:24:20 AM
i posted this an got deleted fuck at shit !


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: KillKurtzKids on October 15, 2006, 11:56:50 AM
Was the commercial for Harley's?


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: grover on October 16, 2006, 09:38:15 AM
This past weekend, I saw for the first time a Harley Davidson commercial with a bunch of black sheep going to the annual Harley convention. 

The odd thing is that the background music to the commercial is Paradise City.  As I sat there and watched it, I wondered how in the world they were able to use it.  Surely Axl didn't sell them the rights to use that music for the commercial, did he???  I didn't think he did that sort of stuff.

Has anyone else seen it?  Does anyone else know if Axl is now selling off the GNR tunes for an additional pretty penny, to allow them to use the tunes in commercials?  It really surprised me.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: TheRaven on October 16, 2006, 09:56:07 AM
This past weekend, I saw for the first time a Harley Davidson commercial with a bunch of black sheep going to the annual Harley convention.?

The odd thing is that the background music to the commercial is Paradise City.? As I sat there and watched it, I wondered how in the world they were able to use it.? Surely Axl didn't sell them the rights to use that music for the commercial, did he???? I didn't think he did that sort of stuff.

Has anyone else seen it?? Does anyone else know if Axl is now selling off the GNR tunes for an additional pretty penny, to allow them to use the tunes in commercials?? It really surprised me.
This has been mentioned a couple times before, but that's ok. As far as the rights, Axl sold the rights to the back catalog to Sanctuary last year, so I believe they'd be the ones responsible for allowing the song to be used in commercials.

Raven


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Bodhi on October 17, 2006, 06:12:06 PM
if it was on during a nascar event that is why nobody saw it...at least here in the NY area....I know that stuff is huge everywhere else


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Nighteyes on October 18, 2006, 01:43:49 PM
Axl sold the rights to the back catalog to Sanctuary last year, so I believe they'd be the ones responsible for allowing the song to be used in commercials.

Raven

anyone knows why he did that?




Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2006, 09:17:20 AM
No references to any other possible versions than the one with Paradise City.




/jarmo


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Locomotive98 on October 21, 2006, 10:05:55 AM
Axl sold the rights to the back catalog to Sanctuary last year, so I believe they'd be the ones responsible for allowing the song to be used in commercials.

Raven

anyone knows why he did that?




Dunno, but I hope Slash et al got their cut.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 21, 2006, 12:24:54 PM
http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/Detour/Black_Sheep


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 21, 2006, 12:27:19 PM
I just hope this does not mean gnr songs are going to be used on tons of Ads. But Sact has to make their money back for the 15m that CD cost.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2006, 12:34:44 PM
No references to any other possible versions than the one with Paradise City.


See that?



/jarmo


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2006, 12:37:58 PM
You are hilarious!

Thank you. Now go somewhere else if you can't deal with my comical side.  : ok:



/jarmo


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jimb0 on October 21, 2006, 12:38:42 PM
I see that.  BTW Umm the commercial Rocks.  I just wish they had used the Take me HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMEEEEEYEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: illusionone on October 21, 2006, 12:39:11 PM
Here is the link to the only version of this commercial - Paradise City

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/Detour/Black_Sheep.jsp?locale=en_US


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: illusionone on October 21, 2006, 12:41:49 PM
I love the fact that a GNR song is getting play on national and I guess international tv.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jmrgnr on October 21, 2006, 12:46:13 PM
You are hilarious!

Thank you. Now go somewhere else if you can't deal with my comical side.? : ok:



/jarmo

I can totally deal with your comical side....I like clowns. I especially like clowns who parody their idols.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 21, 2006, 12:49:00 PM
This is so very tempting.  :-\


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 21, 2006, 12:55:00 PM
Did anyone else see that it sasy:
*SOMETHING WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY*

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/Detour/Black_Sheep.jsp?locale=en_US

Ouch.

Nice knowing you, pal.

Give my blessings to Little Timmy before you get the boot.

And a very Merry Christmas to you!  :-*


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jimb0 on October 21, 2006, 12:56:00 PM
Did anyone else see that it sasy:
COME BACK SOON TO SEE BLACK SHEEP WITH "BETTER" THE NW SONG FOR GUNS N' ROSES FORTHCOMING ALBUM CHINESE DEMOCRACY?

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/Detour/Black_Sheep.jsp?locale=en_US

If we are talking about the PC commercial and it says it on the PC commercial what is the problem?  For Real.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Bostonrose on October 21, 2006, 12:56:28 PM
Umm...i ?wasn't making it up...it says it right there on the fucking website.....for everyone to see....



Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jimb0 on October 21, 2006, 12:57:26 PM
Yeah I know


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2006, 12:58:23 PM
Yeah, it's coming soon according to them.

What's there to talk about? I mean, are you gonna guess how it'll sound since you "haven't heard it yet"?





/jarmo



Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Vicious Wishes on October 21, 2006, 12:59:01 PM
The commercial is good, but the tease is Better ;D


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 21, 2006, 01:00:24 PM
The commercial is good, and the tease is Better ;D

OMIGOD YOU SAID THE DEVIL WORD.

I can't believe how many people are being brave this fine morning! Good luck to all of you I suppose.  :-\


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Booker Floyd on October 21, 2006, 01:03:31 PM
I think the ad is well-done.  Its just too bad that many on here wont share my enthusiasm:

Gnr are not a corp rock band like aerosmith and bon jovi are, both who sell a lot of their songs to movies. You really want gnr to be viewed as that?

Do you really want to hear gnr songs as stupid gingles for car comericals or cerial comericals? I sure dont. Gnr were NEVER about that, so why start now?

Like I really want to hear a gnr song in some stupid commercial, but that?s the difference between slash and duff and Axl. Axl wants to use the song when it warrants it; slash and duff still want to use the name guns n roses just to make money. You should talk to some Stones or Zeppelin hard-core fans; they hate the fact that their songs are used for stupid car commercials and other commercials.



Ill take Axl over that guy anyday and I hate when Aerosmith or any group I love put their fuckin song in a commercial.

How much money do u need?

It just diminishes everything.

Why do people get so uptight when an artist decides to license their songs to commercials and/or movies? I'm not just referring to anyone from here  because I noticed fans of various bands get all uptight over their favorite band doing it. Why does it bother people so much? Does it make them less credible or what?

For me it's probably because occasionally I hear a song on the radio and then I wonder what commercial the song was in.... People start thinking of the product as soon as they hear the song. Even after the commercial itself isn't on tv anymore.


/jarmo


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2006, 01:04:27 PM
I don't think it's a secret that there'll be a new GN'R song in the clip at this point, as it says on the site.

But since it hasn't premiered yet, we can't talk about that new clip.



Booker, your enthusiasm? Haha, good one!

You've never come across as a enthusiastic GN'R fan.... More like a VR fan who likes to keep people like Dave down because he's enthusiastic.


No, I don't associate Paradise City with motorcycles. I do however sometimes associate songs I don't even like with certain brands because that's where I heard the song the most often.



/jarmo


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Smoking Guns on October 21, 2006, 01:05:39 PM
That was badazz!


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 21, 2006, 01:06:04 PM
Booker Floyd Axl didnt put PC or Better on the AD. SACT did since they own his publishing rights now. They did it because they need to make back money on the $15m cost of CD.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: huegel on October 21, 2006, 01:06:25 PM
nice flash movie, but I think they could have done better.
glad to see a gnr song used in a tv commercial though


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Booker Floyd on October 21, 2006, 01:06:57 PM
Booker Floyd Axl didnt put PC or Better on the AD. SACT did since they own his publishing rights now. They did it because they need to make back money on the $15m cost of CD.

Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.  : ok:


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: ILoveGNRandPhysics on October 21, 2006, 01:07:42 PM
Why do people get so uptight when an artist decides to license their songs to commercials and/or movies? I'm not just referring to anyone from here  because I noticed fans of various bands get all uptight over their favorite band doing it. Why does it bother people so much? Does it make them less credible or what?

For me it's probably because occasionally I hear a song on the radio and then I wonder what commercial the song was in.... People start thinking of the product as soon as they hear the song. Even after the commercial itself isn't on tv anymore.


/jarmo
Quote

Yeah, I can't hear "Bang a Gong" by TRex without thinking of easy mac and it's really annoying.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 21, 2006, 01:08:21 PM
Booker Floyd Axl didnt put PC or Better on the AD. SACT did since they own his publishing rights now. They did it because they need to make back money on the $15m cost of CD.

Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.? : ok:

And I guess this missed this post by me right

I just hope this does not mean gnr songs are going to be used on tons of Ads. But Sact has to make their money back for the 15m that CD cost.

 : ok:

You know that I am right but just cant face the facts. This is the first time a gnr song was used for an AD and it was only after axl sold his publishing rights. Btw to use PC slash and duff also had to sign off on it , and since it was used it means they did  : ok:


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 21, 2006, 01:09:43 PM
I don't think it's a secret that there'll be a new GN'R song in the clip at this point, as it says on the site.

But since it hasn't premiered yet, we can't talk about that new clip.




/jarmo

What? New clip? You ruined the surprise for me, Jarmo! And to think I had even rented a tuxedo to wear for the grand unveiling, and some call girls from the ghetto who admired my "funny obsession" with GN'R.  >:( I thought the commercial was going to feature Axl rocking out in his underwear to a Led Zeppelin song, and now I find out it's just a clip of a new song? Bah! Who wants that?!  ???

(I sometimes wonder if I'm on drugs and just never remember taking them.  :hihi:)



Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
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Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2006, 01:12:09 PM
And you won't be posting too long if you keep posting shit.




/jarmo


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: P014r on October 21, 2006, 01:14:42 PM
lol i didnt realize you were censoring things i just read the thread and thought i was posting news. my bad do yer thing dawg


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Booker Floyd on October 21, 2006, 01:15:10 PM
Quote
And I guess this missed this post by me right

Not sure what youre trying to say here...

What evidence do you have to prove Axl had no involvement in this?  Or that its necessary to foot the albums cost?  What evidence do you have to even suggest how much Sanctuary (and not a parent company) has spent on it?

No matter what theories you make up to make yourself feel better, the fact is that you criticized others for making money with their publishing rights when thats exactly what Axl did, whether he had involvement in these ads or simply sold away those rights for others to exploit.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: HamsterDemocracy on October 21, 2006, 01:15:43 PM
lol i didnt realize you were censoring things i just read the thread and thought i was posting news. my bad do yer thing dawg

You just called Jarmo "dawg"?!

 :rofl: :rofl:

I'm loving this thread!

I think Paradise City fits the commercial quite well.  :peace:


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jimb0 on October 21, 2006, 01:19:59 PM
Yeah, it's coming soon according to them.

What's there to talk about? I mean, are you gonna guess how it'll sound since you "haven't heard it yet"?





/jarmo



My Guess is it will sound just like the song when they play it live except recorded at a studio.  I don't know if I can talk about the demo, but if I can.. probably like that but only a cleaner better mix.  I'm very excited.. I can't wait till it comes on TV.  I can't do much more guessing besides that.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: chineseblues on October 21, 2006, 01:20:19 PM
Booker Floyd Axl didnt put PC or Better on the AD. SACT did since they own his publishing rights now. They did it because they need to make back money on the $15m cost of CD.

Dave Geffen, Interscope, Universal are the ones who ponied up the cash for the album, not Sanctuary.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Nightfall on October 21, 2006, 01:22:08 PM
lol i didnt realize you were censoring things i just read the thread and thought i was posting news. my bad do yer thing dawg

You just called Jarmo "dawg"?!

 :rofl: :rofl:

I'm loving this thread!

I think Paradise City fits the commercial quite well.  :peace:
the ending sucks with the PC version. just my opinion...hope they release another version real soon :P


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jimb0 on October 21, 2006, 01:22:48 PM
lol i didnt realize you were censoring things i just read the thread and thought i was posting news. my bad do yer thing dawg

You just called Jarmo "dawg"?!

 :rofl: :rofl:


No only Axl calls Jarmo dawg.  Here today gone to Jarmo


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2006, 01:23:57 PM
Remember Axl joking about how Universal hopes they didn't throw their money in the toilet at one of the shows in San Francisco...

It's pretty pointless to speculate on who did what since we don't know anything about the business side of the band.

If you want to speculate on the band's business, you can do so somewhere else.



/jarmo


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: kyrie on October 21, 2006, 01:24:48 PM
No references to any other possible versions than the one with Paradise City.




/jarmo

:rofl:

You do see the irony there?

At least Harley is a decent brand for the band to be associated with. Much better than the gap or some shit. Between the MLB Media deal and this, seems Sanctuary is at least pushing hard for marketing.


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: WAR41 on October 21, 2006, 01:26:08 PM
I think the ad is well-done.  Its just too bad that many on here wont share my enthusiasm:

Gnr are not a corp rock band like aerosmith and bon jovi are, both who sell a lot of their songs to movies. You really want gnr to be viewed as that?

Do you really want to hear gnr songs as stupid gingles for car comericals or cerial comericals? I sure dont. Gnr were NEVER about that, so why start now?

Like I really want to hear a gnr song in some stupid commercial, but that?s the difference between slash and duff and Axl. Axl wants to use the song when it warrants it; slash and duff still want to use the name guns n roses just to make money. You should talk to some Stones or Zeppelin hard-core fans; they hate the fact that their songs are used for stupid car commercials and other commercials.



Ill take Axl over that guy anyday and I hate when Aerosmith or any group I love put their fuckin song in a commercial.

How much money do u need?

It just diminishes everything.

Why do people get so uptight when an artist decides to license their songs to commercials and/or movies? I'm not just referring to anyone from here  because I noticed fans of various bands get all uptight over their favorite band doing it. Why does it bother people so much? Does it make them less credible or what?

For me it's probably because occasionally I hear a song on the radio and then I wonder what commercial the song was in.... People start thinking of the product as soon as they hear the song. Even after the commercial itself isn't on tv anymore.


/jarmo

Haha I was going to post the exact same thing myself Booker.  I remember that discussion and I remember thinking how absurd it was.  Now even though Dave specifically has been caught with his foot in his mouth, he still won't put Axl down or at least admit that it was foolish of him to say that back in the day and he has changed his opinion.  And the fans like us who realize these hypocrisies are the delusional fans. 


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: Jhestas on October 21, 2006, 01:27:50 PM
This is just getting better and better


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: audjon on October 21, 2006, 01:28:32 PM
Damn, I don't wanna end up thinking of sheep everytime I hear PC.
It is truly an awful commercial, why would a 'cool' motorcycle company wanna be associated with a tedious animal? Who is buying that?


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 21, 2006, 01:30:57 PM
Quote
And I guess this missed this post by me right

Not sure what youre trying to say here...

What evidence do you have to prove Axl had no involvement in this?? Or that its necessary to foot the albums cost?? What evidence do you have to even suggest how much Sanctuary (and not a parent company) has spent on it?

No matter what theories you make up to make yourself feel better, the fact is that you criticized others for making money with their publishing rights when thats exactly what Axl did, whether he had involvement in these ads or simply sold away those rights for others to exploit.
Axl sold his publishing rights, which means he has no say in how his songs are used now. As for the album Sact said it cost around 15m.? Now yes that is for all three albums but Sact needs to make that money back. That is why they released teh GHs, to make some of the money back.? You really should read up on your gnr.

As to what am i trying to say here. You dont know what I meant when I said I hope this doesnt mean that gnr are going to start putting their songs in Ads. How much more do I have to spell it out for you?


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2006, 01:32:06 PM
I remember that discussion and I remember thinking how absurd it was.?

I don't think you understand what music means to some people.

It's like when a song appears in a commercial or the band becomes the most popular one, some people feel like their song or artist was taken away from them, and they have to share with everybody.



/jarmo


Title: Re: New GNR Harley Davidson commercial feat. Paradise City
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2006, 01:35:31 PM
Ok, I tried. I give up.


I'll lock this and all other Harley Davidson commercial discussions on this board until the new one premieres.

Because some people can't read or won't even take the time to try to read.


I'm not interested in deleting link after link because some of you are too lazy to read.


Thanks for ruining this thread!





/jarmo