Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Since everyone knows Axl likes to take stage around 1030 or 11 why dont the managers just the opening bands player longer sets? That why there is less down time and people wont get as pissy

They could go on later as well...

i think that they just have a layover time for axl to get himself psyched up...and nobody knows when he's gonna be ready so they wait....Axl isn't the only guy to do this though...i saw vince neil on the weekend and he was 45 minutes late...he also took a shit load of oxygen breaks too one was for like 10 minutes while the band jammed and sang a couple tunes...

Or they could print on the ticket that the band will go on at 11, so people who don't scope out GNR message boards or aren't huge fan boys like all of us would know not to arrive at 7 expecting to see them at 9.

Because most venues, especially here in the US have strict time caps on when a show has to end. ?Axl is going to have to get a little better with the time thing so we don't have 2002 all over again with cancelled shows and major riots. ?Some venues just don't care if he will pay the fines or not they will just cancel the show. ?

cuz then people will show up @ 12 and miss the show :hihi:

Like when they shut down Vancouver when axl was trying to make it over, still in the air.

haha, I think he will do a little better with this on the US leg....like I said above so we don't have 2002 all over....I knew better when I saw them at Hammerstein and went to the bar around the corner until 10:45 before even bothering to go in because I had NO interest in Bullet for my Valentine.

Quite a few of the venues Guns played recently in the UK had a history of having extremely strict curfews, but it seemed that some negotiations had gone on to extend these. No-one pulled the plug at Hammersmith.

Maybe Axl and the management will try a similar thing in the US? ???

Feck em, like they are gonna try turn the plug off on W. Axl Rose.

At Manchester Towers of London were an hour late, BFMV were an hour late and GNR were 2 hours late.

That time helps to promote boredom amongst hot young females, thus resulting in boobie shows.

It's fine, it's Axl Rose...he does whatever he wants, you know that  :hihi:

I think that Axl starts to think about going on once the booing starts. He wants us to be psyched up, uneasy, on edge

Maybe....but at least the venues pretty much know now that he is actually going to show up after showing up at all the European gigs so either way it's going in the right direction.  A venue might not be so likely to pull the plug now knowing he has attended all his shows for months on end all over Europe...

I also think it amuses him now to some degree to be late more than the fact that he can't actually get there on time...personally I am used to it so it doesn't bother me in the least, it's just that I wind up being a lot more drunk than I intended to be by the time they get on :P

if gnr starts at 11-11:30, i dont think its that big of deal

The thing about Axl going on late, is, aside from annoying some people, it builds anticipation.  Everyone is waiting and waiting and waiting, getting sick of waiting, or expecting him to come on any second.  The tension builds.  Then he finally comes on and it's like... boom!

People say it's for him to get in the right state of mind, and I don't really doubt this, but I think more than anything else, Axl knows it's a smart way to get a crowd full of energy.   I saw David Copperfield when I was like 12 years old or so, and I remember he did the same thing.  I talked to one of his roadies, and he said he did it on purpose, to build up the crowd's anticipation.

Coincidentally, that same night, I remember hearing a woman behind me say something like, "You think this wait is long?  I had to wait like four hours for Guns N' Roses to hit the stage"  (the was the first I remember ever hearing about Guns N' Roses)

I always thought they should do that too but I think then the venue would be fined for scheduling a show that late instead of just the band being fined

Axl needs to watch pissed off fans booing him on camera. It's a vital need.

 :rofl:? :rofl:? :rofl:? Actually, that cracks me up!? When I walked into the Hammerstein I felt like a kid at the Wonka Factory!? I fucking bounded up the stairs to the 2nd mezzanine happily screaming obscenities!? I just laughed thinking about how the hell Axl views crazy assholes like me.? ?;D

PS I forgot to add, punctuality is for work and family responsibilities, not, I repeat not, for rock concerts!  I get so pissed when I see people bitching about GNR going on 1 or 2 hours late.  Goddamn, quit your bitching!  Have an adventure for one damn night of your life!

Maybe everybody else is early?  :P

 :hihi:


/jarmo

I don't think people would like to hear the opening act for a longer time.
Especially with a band like Bullet.

I think anythinggoes would have gone mad if he had to listen to them for 2 hours lol. ;D

^ maybe mix master mike will come back as an opener and play for 2 hours instead :rofl: then GnR can come on and play for 1 1/5 hours :hihi:

If get the opportunity to go to a show, I'll definitely be planning to arrive around 11pm.

Axl4Prez2004, it may be funny for you, but how many people have misssed the last train home because of Axl being so inconsiderate?  He should be able to, and can get an atmosphere going whenever he goes onstage, he doesn't need to wait.

if you are worried about being late then don't go :P

It's not a rock concert unless the star turns up late. What do the fans expect, a punctual, perfectly turned out gentleman? Yeah, that's going to happen...

Gargh, I don't mean to be a dick, but if every phase of your trip has to be planned perfectly, maybe a rock show isn't for you.  Loosen up, grab a cab...drive your car...make arrangements.
Like I said, save the regiment for work and real responsibility.  We've waited over a decade for an album from GNR and people are going to complain about a few hours?  I'm always amazed by these posts.

I was in Boston, '02, and the show was amazing.  Did it go past the mass transit time?  Hell yeah!  Did I care?  Hell no!  Did I walk out of the Fleet Center to see the 1st snowfall for me of the year?  Yes.  Did I enjoy this?  Hell yeah!  Did we grab a cab?  You bet.  Shit like that I'll never forget...especially when it's with friends.   :yes:

Good point/  :yes:

yea everyone gets pissed when he goes on late but i mean its kind of his thing, i mean he has always done it

Some places are limited to how long thast they can stay on for i.e. Dublin.....over at ten :rant:! it was still bright :rant:

Well i don't like opening bnds!!!
In budapest i spenttime while opening band were playing inthe hole drinking a beer and talingto people

A hell of alot of other legendary rock bands/frontmen have no problem going on stage on time, and the majority of the time they always do.

Why should everyone reschedule there plans/have to wait for Axl to go on stage. He should just go on stage on the right time instead of people trying to work around him, if not then he gets the fines and he pays them.

im so dissapointed cause my buddies won't hit vegas for the concert...cause of the vancouver riot...left a lot of people bitter and hateful towards axl... not everyone is so forgiving and understanding in the US to his antics in comparison to other places... but why would a promoter pull the plug if they know he will show up...just very late...

showing up late is the only way... gives us more time to booze and get fucked up....
id rather show up late...who cares about the opening acts

he should just go on sooner, end of story.

i dont give a shit when he goes on ill hang around til whenever to just see the man once before i die.

but the casual fan who hasnt seen them since 92 and is looking to get back into it is gonna get pissed as shit.  at the philly show people were booing their asses off even before we all realized he wasnt coming.  i mean christ people probably have work the next day.