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Title: CD associated with someone else
Post by: gin hotel on August 02, 2006, 12:20:15 PM
so apparently kitty and the kowalskis - chinese democracy is becoming a big underground punk album, selling out on interpunk and cd.baby. if it becomes big in the mainstream before guns n roses album comes out do you think axl will change the albums title ?

http://www.thekowalskis.com/
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=3531504

http://cdbaby.com/cd/kowalskis2
http://www.interpunk.com/item.cfm?Item=63681&

also sadly i hate to admit it but its a f*cking good album !

http://bulletin.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bulletin.read&messageID=1329467794&Mytoken=F66FBD69-DCBA-4E6D-8B4CD006E2F1A4B2130689515


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: T_Roxie on August 02, 2006, 12:23:14 PM
do you think axl will change the albums title ?

No, everyone will just think they stole the name from Axl anyway (which they did)


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: gin hotel on August 02, 2006, 12:25:55 PM
do you think axl will change the albums title ?

No, everyone will just think they stole the name from Axl anyway (which they did)

but released it first


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: Bandita on August 02, 2006, 12:34:30 PM
do you think axl will change the albums title ?

No, everyone will just think they stole the name from Axl anyway (which they did)

I read about this somewhere, I think it was on Wikipedia, that a bunch of bands were naming their albums CD as some sort of joke to the fact that Axl hasn't released this album yet. 


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on August 02, 2006, 01:01:51 PM
They're attention whores that'll burn out sooner or later, anyway.


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: Bumblefeet on August 02, 2006, 01:10:37 PM
its like the offspring thing all over agin!


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: blaqktiger on August 02, 2006, 01:15:22 PM
To me it just proves they are un original and can't think of there own name  ::)


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: GhettoBlaster on August 02, 2006, 01:17:24 PM
i can't imagine kitty & the kowalskis ever getting big enough to be much more than a footnote on wikipedia's GnR entry.


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: DunkinDave on August 02, 2006, 01:19:45 PM
so apparently kitty and the kowalskis - chinese democracy is becoming a big underground punk album, selling out on interpunk and cd.baby.

Oh my gosh - a punk album sells out on a punk website.

That will surely guarantee national sales.

 ::)

Case in point:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G8PKI8/sr=1-2/qid=1154539237/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-3049702-2224940?ie=UTF8&s=music

Quote
Chinese Democracy
Kitty & the Kowalskis (Artist)


Audio CD (May 2, 2006)
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #501,688 in Music (See Top Sellers in Music)
Yesterday: #454,866 in Music


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: slashisvr on August 02, 2006, 01:47:33 PM
im thinkin maybe axl will rename the album anyway

what a turn around that will be  :rofl:


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: Chuzeville on August 02, 2006, 02:06:18 PM
Yea, he should call it Intention 2000.  :rofl:


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: Lucky on August 02, 2006, 02:21:12 PM
here's the album cover
(http://cdbaby.name/k/o/kowalskis2.jpg)

 :hihi: :hihi:


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: CheapJon on August 02, 2006, 03:05:09 PM
here's the album cover
(http://cdbaby.name/k/o/kowalskis2.jpg)

 :hihi: :hihi:

Noo they have prolly stolen the idea of the cover art 2  :rofl: :hihi:


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: greendog on August 02, 2006, 03:37:19 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: gin hotel on August 02, 2006, 03:39:49 PM
so apparently kitty and the kowalskis - chinese democracy is becoming a big underground punk album, selling out on interpunk and cd.baby.

Oh my gosh - a punk album sells out on a punk website.

That will surely guarantee national sales.

 ::)

Case in point:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G8PKI8/sr=1-2/qid=1154539237/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-3049702-2224940?ie=UTF8&s=music

Quote
Chinese Democracy
Kitty & the Kowalskis (Artist)


Audio CD (May 2, 2006)
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #501,688 in Music (See Top Sellers in Music)
Yesterday: #454,866 in Music

the customer reviews on this link are really entertaining, theres a little kitty vs axl debate goin on lol


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: michaelvincent on August 02, 2006, 03:40:52 PM
My new band is called LA Guns. The LA stands for Louisiana.  :rofl:


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: Led Roses 06 on August 02, 2006, 03:46:48 PM
That is the most pathetic attempt at designing a cover I have ever seen. It looks like something a tenth grader from 1969 drew in art class. 


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: DunkinDave on August 02, 2006, 03:48:32 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.

You can't copyright or trademark an album title or song title.


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: gin hotel on August 02, 2006, 03:54:14 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.

You can't copyright or trademark an album title or song title.

how did axl stop the offspring using chinese democracy as an album title ?


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: DunkinDave on August 02, 2006, 04:00:05 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.

You can't copyright or trademark an album title or song title.

how did axl stop the offspring using chinese democracy as an album title ?

He didn't stop them - Offspring later admitted in an interview that they weren't serious about using the album title.


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: gin hotel on August 02, 2006, 04:02:38 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.

You can't copyright or trademark an album title or song title.

how did axl stop the offspring using chinese democracy as an album title ?

He didn't stop them - Offspring later admitted in an interview that they weren't serious about using the album title.

but didnt he send them a cease and desist letter? :yes:


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: DunkinDave on August 02, 2006, 04:04:31 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.

You can't copyright or trademark an album title or song title.

how did axl stop the offspring using chinese democracy as an album title ?

He didn't stop them - Offspring later admitted in an interview that they weren't serious about using the album title.

but didnt he send them a cease and desist letter? :yes:

No - his lawyers sent Offspring a letter out of concern for brand confusion among consumers. Offspring then said they weren't serious about using the title anyway.


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: gin hotel on August 02, 2006, 04:07:27 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.

You can't copyright or trademark an album title or song title.

how did axl stop the offspring using chinese democracy as an album title ?

He didn't stop them - Offspring later admitted in an interview that they weren't serious about using the album title.

but didnt he send them a cease and desist letter? :yes:

No - his lawyers sent Offspring a letter out of concern for brand confusion among consumers. Offspring then said they weren't serious about using the title anyway.

so if they wanted kitty and the kowalskis could call there next album appetite for destruction????


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: GhettoBlaster on August 02, 2006, 04:08:08 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.

just an aside, but nirvana almost called their band "skid row" ?;D


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: DunkinDave on August 02, 2006, 04:09:52 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.

You can't copyright or trademark an album title or song title.

how did axl stop the offspring using chinese democracy as an album title ?

He didn't stop them - Offspring later admitted in an interview that they weren't serious about using the album title.

but didnt he send them a cease and desist letter? :yes:

No - his lawyers sent Offspring a letter out of concern for brand confusion among consumers. Offspring then said they weren't serious about using the title anyway.

so if they wanted kitty and the kowalskis could call there next album appetite for destruction????

Sure - but GNR's lawyers would probably throw a shitfit saying that the release would hurt Guns N' Roses album sales. But since it's Kitty and the Kowalskis and not a mainstream band like Offspring, they probably wouldn't care.

Again, you can't copyright or trademark a song title or album title. You can copyright the composition of music and lyrics, but not the title.


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: gin hotel on August 02, 2006, 04:10:59 PM
paradise kitty  :hihi:


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: chimesedemo on August 02, 2006, 04:15:10 PM
good for nothing PUNKS !

kitty and the kowalskis are desperate. they used to be called killer kowalski, a name robbed from the old wrestler until he threatened to sue and they changed it. then they rob guns n roses album title, and isnt the lead singer called KITTY KOWALSKI the name of a character from superman ? does this band do ANYTHING ORIGINAL?  :drool:


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: gin hotel on August 02, 2006, 04:37:38 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.

You can't copyright or trademark an album title or song title.

how did axl stop the offspring using chinese democracy as an album title ?

He didn't stop them - Offspring later admitted in an interview that they weren't serious about using the album title.

but didnt he send them a cease and desist letter? :yes:

No - his lawyers sent Offspring a letter out of concern for brand confusion among consumers. Offspring then said they weren't serious about using the title anyway.

so if they wanted kitty and the kowalskis could call there next album appetite for destruction????

Sure - but GNR's lawyers would probably throw a shitfit saying that the release would hurt Guns N' Roses album sales. But since it's Kitty and the Kowalskis and not a mainstream band like Offspring, they probably wouldn't care.

Again, you can't copyright or trademark a song title or album title. You can copyright the composition of music and lyrics, but not the title.

yea ok i guess this thread clears it up http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=33910.0


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: Stupid Head on August 02, 2006, 05:12:15 PM
to my knowlege the only way they could keep the name Chinese Democracy and even have a chance to stop Axl from using it is if they make it big (like mainstream big) and keep it long enough without complaints. (im not sure on the timescale) but this happened with Nirvana, a band tried to claim Nirvana was their name and they couldnt do jack about it because they had been mainstream for (say) 2 years, and they didnt say anything about it before.

You can't copyright or trademark an album title or song title.

how did axl stop the offspring using chinese democracy as an album title ?

He didn't stop them - Offspring later admitted in an interview that they weren't serious about using the album title.

but didnt he send them a cease and desist letter? :yes:

No - his lawyers sent Offspring a letter out of concern for brand confusion among consumers. Offspring then said they weren't serious about using the title anyway.

so if they wanted kitty and the kowalskis could call there next album appetite for destruction????

Sure - but GNR's lawyers would probably throw a shitfit saying that the release would hurt Guns N' Roses album sales. But since it's Kitty and the Kowalskis and not a mainstream band like Offspring, they probably wouldn't care.

Again, you can't copyright or trademark a song title or album title. You can copyright the composition of music and lyrics, but not the title.
Like I just said in another thread, Axl's lawyers didnt send a cease and desist letter to the Offspring. The singer admitted it was bullshit, he never heard from Axl or his lawyers.


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: johnnythunders24 on August 02, 2006, 11:59:10 PM
ummm...no...being successful and selling 10,000 albums and the millions gn'r will sell is a big diff


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: gin hotel on August 05, 2006, 08:14:44 AM
ummm...no...being successful and selling 10,000 albums and the millions gn'r will sell is a big diff


the kowalskis could sell more than 10,000 by the time axl releases CD


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on August 05, 2006, 08:25:11 AM
How do these fuckers call themselves punk? They stand for everything that punk does not. Fuckin cocks

 :peace:


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: chimesedemo on November 20, 2006, 08:00:08 AM
people like the dogshit boys and kitty and the kowankskis dont bother me because they only have about 5 fans between them. but if the rumour on the blind melon forum is true that the reformed blind melon are plannin on callin there comback album chinese democracy, that is quite a concern. blind melon are a big band and if people started to associate the title with them then the mainstream would be very confused when gnr eventually release theres.  :no:


Title: Re: CD associated with someone else
Post by: supaplex on November 20, 2006, 08:29:23 AM
blind melon without shannon :no: