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why are some people bashing robin for his guitar playing? i've wittnessed the man live with nin (in vienna); the guy is just tight and got more presence on stage than trent reznor; what i heard on the rir mp3's and the 2002 tour seemed to be just splendid guitar work with lots of feel to it; just listen to "the blues" or the "chinese democracy" solo; or the "sweet child o' mine" solo on the "big daddy"-soundtrack, which is nothing but outstanding; not to speak from the leaks in 2006 (f.e.: "better")...

i think that robin has got such an unique sound and a very soulfull way of playing that is different from ANYTHING i know; just because he plays the old gnr stuff a bit different, doesn't mean he plays "wrong", as some of you have assumed...

if you have an example where robin really does not live up to the high gnr-fans expectations, please post the link and prove me and my robin arguments wrong...

ps: the only thing i'm not sure of, is robins quality as a songwriter or suplier of cool riffs; would be interesting to know how much he's involved in the writing process, how creative he is. but i guess we'll know soon.

He raped NR during 2002 tour :no: I don't like his sound at all...

I don't love the guy and wouldn't care if Axl got rid of him. He has never impressed me like Tommy Stinson,Brain, or Buckethead did during the 2001-2002 shows. Maybe this time it will be different....

Yeah, that robin f In ?CK, he's like Van Halen & Page rolled into one. :hihi:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_i081KM1Is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8twEcwsBzk



Seriously, WTF was going on with this guy playing this shit? What a turd.

I guess this was discussed many times...

I like Robin and his style more then Slash and whatever he did while in GNR. And that is only me. Most of people think Robin is no near Slash and I respect their thoughts. I don't think it matters... What matteres is that in 11 days G&R will hit the stage for the first time in last few years and this time it seems comeback is for real.

That is the greatest gift to any G&R / Axl fan. Who plays and why? I dont care.

Hmmm that was the brilliance i witnessed in Toronto. ?::) sounds like me when I'm tuning ?:hihi:

Everything that I've heard from Robin while in GN'R sucks,maybe it was because he didn't know how to play the Guns stuff that good,I dunno,maybe he'll be better this time if he's in the band now

I'll wait until I hear Chinese Democracy before I fully judge his value.. but I never have been that impressed with him.

I especially didn't like it when he used the same guitar as slash and made some of the same motions as Slash when he'd play Slash's solos (and fuck them up most the time.) I think he even hopped on the piano to do the November Rain one which was dumb in my opinion too.

I'm also not one of those people who worship the old band and won't give new members a chance, I love Brain, Stinson, and Buckethead. At least Buckethead would make the solos his own by tinkering with them. : ok:

Robin made a few errors during the 2002 tour... but all guitar player could make mistakes during a tour... but some assholes pretend to crucifige Robin on those mistakes... because they don't want to see how the guy is a fine player with a lot of feeling on stage.

Finck's the coolest.

i said it numerous times allready and i`m kind of tired to say it again and again :hihi:

i love that guy and he`s my favourite guitar player.... the solos he wrote to the new gnr songs are simply amazing imo and his stage presence is awesome as well. i`m pretty sure that he was the main part in the writing of the new songs (with axl of course...).

his webmaster confirmed that he played an essential part in writing the blues for example....  i guess we should wait for the new record to judge on him though...

 i love his style, the work i heard and his stage moves :peace:

Finck is the man. Even though he may not be the most technically skilled player, he makes up for it in style and creativity. He shows more emotion that anyone I've ever seen while playing an instrument. When the dust settles, I think his contributions to this era of GNR will have been priceless....

My thoughts exactly.  :)

yeah, i agree, one way or the other they will be priceless alright :hihi:

I dunno....I try and remain optimistic :peace:

His solo in Better and The Blues are nothing but amazing. He did an awesome job too in Fright Train and Love Siege, both from Ghosts Of Mars soundtrack.

I would put why he's my favourite guitarist and how he's is the best out there, but I already did too many times in another Robin thread. :P

Finck rulz goddamit

Couldn't have said it better m'self!

His studio work seems to be phenomonal but his live playing seems to be suspect at times.

Robin finck is a fuckin joke. he is one of the worst guitarist I have ever heard. ?I don't know what the hell Axl is thinking keeping this fool around. ?I never thought i would say this but nu-GNR's best live guitarist is richard fortus. ?Buckethead was lame and so is finck. ?The only people that like this douche bag are the nutswingers in this freakin "cult" message board. ?The objective rock n' roll fan knows this guy fuckin sucks. ?How can someone say that Finck has been better for GNr than Slash? That is rock n' roll blasphemy, ?that's like saying Blink 182 is better than the Stones and Beatles. ? Remove your cock from Axl's balls ?please. ?Damn ?I'm embarrassed to be in this message board right now. I used to think that most of the people here were knowledgeable ?and objective fans ? but I'm beginning it
s nothing more than a cult . ?Let me set things straight for you worshippers ?, the only talent in this band is Axl and stinson. ?Fortus is ? good for touring but I don't think he can write music. ?The only question now is if Axl is good enough to carry a band by himself. ?He's going to have to be awesome ?to make up for the mediocrity in this band. ?This band has absolutely no stage presence, that could hurt them unless vintage Axl comes out blazing and singing in his raspy voice.

It's hard to respect anyone's opinion who says Buckethead is lame.. when he is one of the most talended guitarests of our generation.. which he has proved with tons of his own work. Finck is rather unproved, and misses a lot of notes live at times.. so I can see people knocking him. Brain also is talented as well, you didn't mention him.

Robin fuckin' Finck!!!    RULES  ...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aaaahhhh fuck it, sick of this shit, if you think he is crap or whatever, get ya fuckin' hearin' checked!!!

Stop complaining.

Pick-up a guitar, go onstage and play the Guns N' Roses material, play the Slash solos in front of 20.000 pair of eyes, we will see who will have the last laugh! Do you think it's easy? Guns N' Roses may be the greatest and most iconic guitar Rock band since Led Zeppelin. Playing Guns N' Roses stuff is not like playing some fucking Nirvana 3 chords guitar parts.

To play in GNR you need 3 things: The Rock, the Blues and the feeling

Richard Fortus has all those 3 elements - it's true
Buckethead had none of those three elements- it's true
Robin Finck has the blues and the feeling but not the "Rockstar" edge, does it mean he sucks? - it's false.

Listen to the leaked demos, at least he has the Blues and the feeling, wich is already great. Anyway, 11 days left before the begining of the GNR Tour. Hoppefully, there will be more exiting things to talk about in a near future.

Was that jam at RIR someone else ???, I saw this guy jammin' his ass off when Axl gave him the stage in RIR in 2001 - I think it was called Sussego
or something- but anyways, when he was playing I was impressed.  As far as the 2002 tour, I saw MSG, and outside of a few notes on Nov.Rain , I thought he held up those songs great -

The leaks sound cool, I think the album will be even better, so ................................I like the guy -  but that' s just me :beer:

Thats a bit rich coming from you.

Buckethead may not have had the rock, but he could play the Blues (it may not have been in his blood) and from what I've heard he had had plenty of feeling on the demos. Its just you don't like the fast playing.

How can you say Robin doesn't have 'the Rock'. I suggest you watch the NIN DVD 'All that could have been'. He has plenty of Rock in my eyes!

I hope they get a virtuoso to fill Bucketheads bucket - the demos were excellent and I'd like to hear his parts played live.

I like Finck myself. ?The NR solo is a hard solo to replicate because of the bends Slash does. ?Slash bends so much it's amazing he didn't break his strings, much less stay in tune. ?I like Fincks version, as well as the AWESOME 2nd solo on Better. ?He has my respect. : ok:

Finck has the blues? OK. But anyway, this is just my opinion, but I think that Finck sounds very bad. Maybe it's because I simply prefer Slash's sound/style/solos/riffs more.. They just sound better in my ear. I'm not saying that Finck is a bad guitar player, but I haven't heard him playing any of the old Gn'R-tunes better than Slash/Izzy did. I think that Fortus could kick some fuckin' ass if Axl would let him play more solos, especially the old ones. Richard has the sound that Finck doesn't. Again, this is just my opinion.

I kinda agree with that. Richard likes to play with an ES 335 wich is mainly a jazz/blues guitar. So when you play Rock with this guitar, you do have a strong bluesy based sound. For not so long, lots of guitar players have been using this guitar. It's very trendy to use an ES 335 when you play Rock now. Dregen (Backyard Babies) also plays with an ES 335, I saw him onstage, he sounded fucking KILLER. It's a question of material I think.

Izzy played with the same guitars as well at times.  They (Richard and Izzy) have alot of the same qualities, except Richard is a much more aggressive player.

just shut up idiot!!   if you don`t like it, when some people who`re members of a gnr messageboard like the current gnr guitarist, then you should leave this board. go to metalsludge... you`ll find loads of "unbiased" rock fans there : ok:

robin and buckethead are the best guitarists around at the moment imo :peace:

i`m sick of idiots like you on the boards...  your post was completely baseless anyways. some people who posted in this thread didn?t really like robin, some want to wait for the CD to judge on him and some (like myself or voodoo) really like that guy. it`s not that everyone here is praising him....

finck is my fav new member

finck = cool as fukk

I still lol at people who don't give Buckethead his accolades.

robins great, love the shit he did in "better" and especially "the blues"  :hihi:

I think buckethead has AMAZING skills. I haven't heard too many who can play like that. However, his style really doesn't do it for me personally, and I am not too big a fan of his stuff. But noone can deny his ability.

Im doubting whether we should even label Robin Fink as a guitarist. Having the ability to hold a guitar and then pluck some out of key notes isnt enough for me.

If he's such a horrible guitarist, then why was he asked to play for NIN and GNR?

He obviously has a lot of talent.

ficnk rules!

and just to remind that slash could fuck up even more than Robin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN5gCfVsMN0&search=november%20rain

listen to the secund solo there!!!!! jesus! he couldnt be at his full 5 there...

I guess NIN songs arent too technically demanding and then Axl is a HUGE NIN fan so he wanted to work with Fink.

The guitar work in Better and TWAT show his value

He?s the best new member and once CD comes out you?ll all realize that

I was a BH fan before he even joined GnR. Everyone who thinks he plays too fast or has to dominate the song with his playing, should check out "Enter the Chicken". Except for the final song "Nottingham Lace" he just sits back and lets all the different singers shine. Easily his most impressive CD, in my opinion.

Back on topic, I accept that not everyone will agree on everything, but put me in the category of people who think Robin will absolutely shine live and on the CD.

That second solo was mostly improving so thats not fair. Fink fucks up everything.

I still don't understand why people think that this guy would still be employed if he sucks so bad?

^^^^And thats a big problem. A LOT of people think he sucks. You dont hear this type of complaining about Fortus very often or any other member. With so many complaints, you cant help but notice that he was a horrible Slash replacement.

so what? its still a whole wrong solo.... why improvise a perfectly good solo? what if finck improvise? i think slash fucked up there, the last portion of the first solo is fucked too...


slash aint perfect ;)

also, eitherway slash played wrong, the right way is how it is on the album, right? not some sucky improv.

^^^I agree with you but at least Slash is capable of actually playing that solo properly. Unlike Fink.

Slash was wasted, what's Fincks excuse.

Ill judge Finck based on his contributions to the album. I love his playing on all the songs so far. So so far so good for me atleast. Is he Slash? Nope. Not many are.

Finck or any other bandmember doesnt have to be like or greater than Slash for this to work. CD and this band can still live up to expectations without having Slash. Bucket was the only guy who nulled that argument. But with these guys as long as it works for how they play then they can make something magical. And with the proper final production the mission will be accomplished.

Fincks? style and playing works well with this new band. And thats all that counts. He kicks ass on the new leaks as well as the other material. Plus he seems like a loyal bandmember. Throw in his stage presence and hes an excellent lead player for this band.....11 more days

I'll bump these back up. This is Finck's time to shine. A spotlight solo as lead guitarist for fakegnr & this is what he comes up with. On the second one, you can actually hear people laughing at him. This clown has no business being in a guitar-driven band like GNR & it just proves how looney botaxl has become by having finck around. What could the crew/axl/buckethead of been thinking while finck was going out night after night & embarrassing the band like this? Would people really be like telling him how awesome his solo was last night & to keep it up cause he's knocking'm dead, even though the crowd is relatively silent afterwards? Besides whaxl becoming a botoxed out wigger, finck's inclusion in this group of hired hands is definitely my biggest disappointment.

I don't understand why people dislike him so much. Just because he doesn't play an average run of the mill guitar solo doesn't make it "not art". Not everyone has to express themselves in the same way. Everything would be beyond boring if thats how it worked. People like Robin and Axl working together are what makes art interesting in my opinion.

If guys like Robin weren't around bands like Creed and Nickelback would be all we have.

Tell ya what, Allow me to play a few of the NR solos and then you can laugh at me and think twice about pickin' on Robin.  ;D

ur an idiot, i dont want to start an arguement but c'mon. SLash is Slash, and its also harder to play material that u didnt create yourself. SLash made those solos and riffs, and played the fuck out of them on Tour. so robin comes in and has some problems, big shit?? everyone makes mistakes, even slash. I think robin does a mostly good, and sometimes pretty good job on playing the old material.

and c'mon THE BLUES guys!! THE BLUES!!! his work in the blues is out of this world., i cant wait to see what else hes contributed on the record.

and to not even call him a guatarist!! WTF?? what a baseless and horrbile diss. I am a huge NIN fan and he fucking kicked ass live. the playing and the stage presence was fantastic. cant wait to see him on stage on the 17th.

and also, its hard to fill slash's shoes, i mean, HES SLASH!! any of his replacements are gonna take some shit for not being slash.

Maybe you're the one who should stop complaining, you should take your own words as advice instead.

So, come on now, go pick up the guitar and play in front of 20,000 people and we'll see who will have the last laugh.

robin kicks ass

Im an idiot because Fink cant play? Go fuck yourself.
There are plenty of people out there who can actually play Slash's material but Robin Fink is a lazy man who hasnt bothered to practice enough. This guy is getting payed good money to be in GNR but he is too lazy to get his technical ability up to scratch. He is a joke and an embarrasment. There are far more deserving and accomplished players out there.

I hope he has been practising his ass off these past four years. I bet he's been too lazy though. Hopefully he proves me wrong on the 12th.

I've always liked Robins playing. I think he is a good replacement for slash. he contributions on the new material are amazing, and I like the way he plays the old solo's. he adds enough of the original with a touch of his own and he sounds great!

NOt crazy about the goth bald mullet look though.

But i'm sure he's a terrible guitar player he's only played in two of the worlds biggest bands. Trent and axl are clearly idiots that don't know what they are doing. ::)

Not personal, because I am sure Robin is a nice guy, but...


his guitar playing is boring, his tone is awful, and he looks like a fucking moran. He plays like shit on the old material.

Now, it's Axl's fault because he is the man in charge and he hired him. I will gladly change my mind if he has written some amazing music on the "new" album, but frankly, I hope there is much better songs coming that the mediocre tracks we have heard so far.

the only great guitar playing I heard on those schizophrenic demos was from Buckethead, and we all know at this point he is gone.

Agreed, especially in regards to the "goth bald mullet."? It's just plain laughable, and already seems so very outdated.? In my opinion, regardless of how gloriously he might or might not butcher the old material, it's the new songs that I will judge his contributions by...

Do any of you so-called guitar experts realize that he is playing Slash's solos different on purpose? ?It would be rather boring to replicate note for note someone else's writing. ?Moreover, I think Robin respects Slash, and would rather try a different interpretation of his work, in his own artistic way, as opposed to exactly the same as Slash. ?I like the grungy, interpretations on many of the songs. ?It's kind of a punk/Sonic Youth type of style, which I like, and takes much mojo to play in front of all these GNR neophytes.

A-the the fuckin-men. I don't claim to be any sort of guitar expert but I've seen people do FAR worse with interuptations of others work then Robin and Slash. I totally agree that Robin (and the rest of the new band) have respect for Slash and the originals. I think they're just trying to put their own stamp on the songs.

Agreed.  I doubt very much that any of the new guns signed on to be in a cover band.  Changing things up a bit while remaining respectful of the musicans involved with the original versions of the songs themselves is more than understandable...

I agree that I wasn't to impressed with Robin's playing on the 02' tour but I will not judge him til CD comes out.  I do like that he is in the band and eventually, if he plays well on CD, I think people will come around.  So, I would say wait to judge and if Robin is listening come out of your shell and and talk about GN'R.  I think people will get into you more if you act like you are apart of the band. 

Amen brother! If people don't like someone in the band, do they have to leave this board? Or does it mean that they are idiots 'cause they don't like Finck's sound? No.

I think this guy is a better performer than Finck  lol



                                         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJcKrQLGxE

I don't like Finck's take on some of the old solos, particularly NR and SCOM.  But his work on the new songs has been high quality, especially his solos in The Blues and Better. 

alll you sayin' that finck's playing sucks are just upset that he doesn't paly yous sweet nov rain solo like slash did. imo that was the only solo that maybe he fucked up.
you want him to play exactly like on cd's and exactly like slash. that's not gonna happen. i don't like to see a fuckin' copy of slash on stage, i want to see a guitar player with his own style and personality. anybody can be a fuckin copy.
and to people bashing him for the way he looks: go look in the mirror, you think everybody likes the way you look? no. he looks like he wants to and you have no right to comment on that.

You're wrong.. I don't want him to play the solos like Slash did. I simply want him to play the solos good.. but maybe he just can't do it, 'cause his sound is awful. Yeah, in my opinion all of the solos were played better by Slash.. that's it.

^ of course they were played better by slash, he wrote them :yes:
and i understand that people would prefer to hear slash but he's out. there's another guy on the guitar and he'll play his way.
if cd was out with finck solos and then slash got back, you think he would try to copy finck's work or play it his way?

Buckethead and Fortus did a better job on the old solos than Finck, they played them different but played them well.  Their solos on Nightrain were both awesome, Fortus's was similar to the old one but had his own twist and sounded great.  Buckethead's went in a totally different direction but was incredible, and was one of the highlights of the 2002 shows.  Buckethead also did the outro on NR pretty close to the original with a few small twists, and it sounded perfect, just as good as Slash ever sounded with it.  But Finck did not really enhance any of the old solos

Again, I'll bring the baseball bat if you bring the dead horse.

And oh, Finck rules!  :peace:

@shotgunblues 1978: i think finck played the old solos pretty good and the only solo that sounded weird was the nov rain solo. probably that's just a matter of taste. he took a chance. some people liked his playing, some people did not. i'm from the first category. i can't wait to hear cd and robin's work. 10 days till we see how things evolved: good or bad.

Finck's inability to play the Slash solos isn't about interpretation at all. Finck consistantly screwed up his NR solo segment, labored on Live and Let Live numerous times during the European and Asian legs, and struggled to stay on tempo in his Blues solo. These were the three most egregious mistakes that I noticed. He wasn't reinterpreting Slash at all; in fact, it sounded as if he missed entire notes.

Often times, his solo sounded  very fragmented, choppy, not smooth at all. This may be the style that he enjoys playing, but the manner in which he bends notes can cut up the flow of the solo. I really appreciated Buckethead's contribution to Nightrain, Out Ta Get Me, and the outro to NR. He really nailed the technical side of the solo as well as spicing it up with a few signatrue Bucket licks.

I know Robin will shine on the new album but his stage work can vary greatly within a show; from spectacular in Sweet Child to down right embarrassing in LALD. I still can't believe how badly he screwed that solo up in Asia.

Yeah, but he COULD play them better. Or maybe not :P Like ShotgunBlues1978 said: Buckethead and Fortus did a better job on the old solos than Finck. I don't "hate" Finck 'cause he's not Slash, I "hate" him because I think he sounds bad.

You seem to forget Slash's fluxuating inability to play his own solos live.

Stupid Head, you r' a stupid head !! : ok:    he doesnt have to prove u wrong

  YOU HAVE EARS BUT YOU CANT HEAR!!!   , what the fuck r' u talkin' about!!!

WHO HERE AGREES THAT ROBINS SOLO TO 'SWEET CHILD' IS ABSOLUTE KILLER, N' FK'N FLAWS' SLASH!!    BE HONEST!!!

now thats a solo that Robin ripped right up!!!

About Robin Finck's creative qualities: He's fucking awesome. But I agree when Killingvector said this: "I know Robin will shine on the new album but his stage work can vary greatly within a show; from spectacular in Sweet Child to down right embarrassing in LALD. I still can't believe how badly he screwed that solo up in Asia."

Yes I heard that boot too from Asia. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. The drums screwed up there too by the way, keeping the beat instead of changing/ slowing it. Anyways. Finck is a great guitar player but sometimes it doesn't quite show unfortunately.  :-\

I hear brilliance in this little Finck interlude by the way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_i081KM1Is

I don't understand why some of you are laughing at this above piece??? The melody, the vibe is awesome, hard to catch. Good melody as well. This man is a great song writer I'm sure.

The other youtube vid one from leeds 2002 before PC sounded pretty bad yes. He missed a couple of notes, played some wrong, tuning of the guitar not quite beeing as they should be. Bad nights happen.

Mr Robin Finck has so much potential, unfortunately it didn't always show on the 2002 tour. But sometimes he was fucking brilliant as well. I'm not too bothered with little fuck-ups (Me, as a guitar player have plenty of my own, haha) he makes up good for it with his stage presence. His solo on November Rain however.....erm..... I don't think I quite have the right to say this (as I'm not in Gn'R, haha)...but....he might want to brush that one up.

I always get the feeling that Finck has kinda.........'jimmy page' written all over him. Sloppy live but (I expect) great song writing. I hope that is / will be the case.  The man has loads of talents and an unique sound! I'm sure it'll show on the album!

Aah yes, his contributions to the Paradise City ending solo was great! The duel between him and Bucket, great great!

yea well....slash has one thing over robin as far as SCOM is concerned....he fucking wrote it

can't compare slash to robin and i don't want to....IMO slash is better..by far  but to each their own

and as a joke....i think i know why CD is taking so long.....cuz it's taken Robin 9 years to come up with 13 good songs :hihi: :peace:

^ so when robin plays great one of slash's solos it's hard to admit it but when robin plays a solo different or makes a mistake he's a lame guitar player?

No Slash did fuck up but it happens....I'm concerned with the constant messing up that i hear...

look maybe it's his style...cuz he messes up the same parts time after tim...but his "style" is not my thing....I really do want me to be wrong, cuz i want whats best for NuGnR.

the point i was trying to make above is that Slash wrote some fucking awesome wicked solos...I have yet to be similarily impressed by robins solos...they seem amateur in comparison....I'm talking about the solos he performed in concert now...his original ones near the end of the shows. I have not much material with which to judge Robin, and like i said I hope we hear some great stuff from him on CD. :peace:

at least you're waiting for cd. others bash the guy without hearing some studio work from him.
get cd out!!!

o.k. has anybody listened to the sweet child o' mine solo that you can hear at the end of the big daddy soundtrack recently ?; when the old gnr morphes into the "new" gnr from 1999 (no bucket, no brain); do that and still say that robin fucks old gnr up... hard thing to do

Hey its all good. I'm dying to hear CD as well...and I want it to be great too :beer: but I'm still an GnR fan cuz of Axl...I don't know the rest of the guys well enough to care who is in the band at this stage :-\

hmmmm....whiny...we have no proof that it is robin on it though. Everything is speculation at this point....I wanna see credits on CD so I know who does what :peace:

just get a fuckin' bootleg....(London, Canada. 02') n' see 4 yourself.............how do u like them apples!!

I got a fucking bootleg, 3 actually....RIR3, Toronto and London, ON, I'll have you know.... and I went to the Toronto show and sat less than 50 feet from the guy.

How do you like them apples :P :peace:

Anybody with any of the bootlegs might want to check out Robin's playing on entire second half of Patience. IMO it's incredible.

I thought he sucked on patience :P

that's where my whole disappointment with him comes from : ok:

Oh, I only saw people mentioning SCOM so I wasn't sure if anyone checked out Patience. I liked it alot so I thought maybe others would.

lol it's all good...everybody has different opinions on the guy....one of the only GnR tunes I know how to play is Patience....and I cringed during that solo...but he fucked it up everytime to my ears sooo, it's obvious he's doing it on purpose i guess.

IMO it's a classic....play like it was written : ok: I just hope he impresses me more this time around than he did in 2002. :beer:

I have all the bootlegs and Robin does a great job on the songs. He adds his own flair to them, people need to realise that he plays that way on purpose!

your apples suck!!

Man, that solo on Patience by Robin is fk'n killer, its a whole new feel, n' it ripps!!! :beer: :beer: :drool: :drool: :smoking:



......uuummmm, where exactly r' u lookin' when u watch Robin???????? , 'cause it def. aint his guitar playin'!!   :o :o :o :-X :-X :-X

Clintron what are you talking about!!!! It ain't him huh? well see if this is robin or not....it looks like him to me

London, ON, 2002 - Robin Patience Solo (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O8IBFZUP)

For the record.....this is how it's meant to be done....Robin wimps out....he should be picking the notes but he's bending them instead.

St. Louis, 1991 - Slash Patience Solo (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y38OPYXV)

After watching them both....you tell me which on "RIPPS" I prefer the Slash way....If you like Robin's way...knock yourself out. I hope the new stuff from robin is killer...but him playing the old stuff didn't cut it for me :peace: I'm done in here.

I didn't know Finck butchers solos on purpose. Thanks for the great insider knowledge. : ok:

A GNR tour with only Finck and Fortus on guitar will be a butchered AFD rehash tour. These new songs cant be done without BH, and they cant do the old songs either. If Ax hasn't hired BH back, or got someone new, then this tour isn't gonna last long.

Good point. I think that sums it up perfectly.

Then what the hell are you even doing here? Why not go back to your board where everyone bashes the band?  ::)

How about you take your own advice? Go back to "your board" where everyone loves Finck and gets banned for liking anyone else.

you dick !!!    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

i ment YOU wernt lookin' at Robin!!!        I KNOW ITS ROBIN!!!

N' HE FUCKIN' KIX ARSE!!!

glad to see you positive as always. leave it to axl to prove you wrong.

Just got through listening to Robin's Sweet Child O' Mine solo from the Ontario show. It's awesome. I think he did an amazing job.

Like I said, try Patience as well. Some people don't like it but I think he tears up the middle/end solo and the outro bit as well. If you need an mp3 of it PM me.

I'm watching it on Youtube. It does sound different than the original version. But it doesn't sound like he's messing it up, just seems like he's putting a different twist on it.

Thats what I think. That second solo leading to the intro the the last part is a very cool change. I don't think he's trying to be better or worse than Slash, I just think he's putting his own spin on it.

A nice review about Robin by the New York Times:

It was the group?s principal guitarist, Robin Finck, who made the sweetest and most grounded music of the night, and seemed most comfortable at work. An off-and-on member of the band for nine years now, Mr. Finck assumed most of the lines in the old songs formerly played by the guitarist Slash. But when he improvised, he spun out simple patterns, shaking the guitar?s neck and getting warmth and resonance out of each note or chord; his own unaccompanied solo, just before the concert?s final number, was a beautifully coherent, non-shredding couple of minutes, the best of the less-familiar music played in the show. He gave himself to the crowd, even literally, diving in to the audience three times.

Just like to say that from reading the posts about the show last night that the majority of the Robin "haters" have changed their tune and now think that Robin rocks.  8)

I knew from the night I saw him in Pittsburgh Robin fucking rocks and is perfect for GNR.  Its just nice to see everyone else finally see this  8)

pathetic, isn't it. i have supported robin all along, i knew he was great. pathetic hypocrits.

from thew boots it still sounds like he fucked up a few times so don;'t worry about me i remain skeptical :-*

but first show....I'll wait to pass final judgement till they play more and hopefully until i see them on a NA tour

hey....Just cuz the guy can crowd surf doesn't mean he's great : ok:

robin wrote alot of "better".

how do we know that? there is no proof :no:

let me tell you this, I know you are engaged to finck or something but if the finck of 01-02 showed up to battle the one of the 12th he would have been blown off stage.. I give finck credit now... he can play, but because he improved.. : ok:

That dude almost stole the show from Axl in my opinion. When I stopped by Mustang Harrys you were saying that you don't follow any of these guys. I wanted to ask if you thats changed now at least as far as Robin is concerned??

I thought he was incredible.

Axl said so friday night. He said better was a "robin song".

oh ok...cool : ok: well my respect goes up a notch then :peace:

So how was Robin's solos on SCOM and NR? Did he play 'em better than he did in 2002? If he really wrote Better, he gets some respect from here : ok:

how was last nights performance....i realist veiw if possible :peace:

I found this 2002 Robin interview. Not sure if it's been posted before. He talks about his various projects (including how he hooked up with GN'R).

Up Close and Personal with Nine Inch Nails Guitarist ROBIN FINCK

By Randy Chandler

Having recently completed a European tour, Industrial poster-boys Nine Inch Nails have just embarked on their North American trek in support of the new album, The Fragile. The tour marks the first time Trent Reznor and his cohorts have taken to the stage since the fruition of The Downward Spiral Tour almost four years ago.

A lot can happen in four years. Long-regarded as a brooding, distant mastermind, Reznor 2000 seems to be a kinder, gentler overlord, with shorter hair and a somewhat more pleasant outlook. Reznor is, of course, still the only 'real' member of the 'group, creating his entire discography single-handedly. But bringing one's music to the masses, one arena at a time, necessitates hauling some extra musicians with you. For the
musicians, it must be quite an adventure - but what do they do between the tours?

Review: Where you at right now?

Robin: I'm on Sunset Strip in L.A. It's a little hazy today, but for the most part it's been gorgeous. I feel Spring coming on.

Review: How long have you been with Nine Inch Nails?

Robin: I met Trent back around the end of 1993, when he was completing The Downward Spiral. Trent was putting together the live band for that tour and it was the first time Nails was a five piece. We toured for what at the time felt like a thousand years, and went everywhere twice and three times. Finally, I settled in New Orleans for about one year. I was there for a year after the tour. I split and they're still there. Trent has quite an empire in New Orleans, which is where he lives.

Review: Did you have anything to do with recording the new album?

Robin: No. I left at a time when a couple of us, myself included, weren't necessarily taking good care of ourselves. And New Orleans is the worst place to be, because there wasn't a lot going on when I was there. I split and did my own thing for awhile.

When I left in 1997 there was no animosity between the band and me, but at the same time I wasn't necessarily taking a hiatus knowing I'd be back. It was kind of open-ended. I kept in touch with the guys in the band. The last couple of years they were working on the record and I was gone, and when they completed Fragile and started putting the band back on the road, I
knew it was happening gradually. But Trent called me first and said here it is - the moment we all knew would come.

When I left New Orleans I hooked-up with the Circus Soleil and started playing guitar in a circus band. I wanted to do something completely 180 degrees opposite of what I had been doing, and for me and my life at the time, it seemed like a far out thing to do. It was a great experience for me.

About 18 months into that, I got a call from Axl Rose, who I never met at the time. He invited me to the studio as he was writing and recording songs. It was an invitation for a casual listen. Eventually, after about 8 weeks, we started playing together. We played some of my songs and finally I left the circus and was doing records with Axl, Josh, and Tommy, and what would have been a new Guns 'n Roses, if you will.

We wrote and rehearsed and argued and laboriously recorded several records worth of musical material, which to the best of my knowledge Axl is still finishing. But my work was through. We had dozens of finished songs, as far as I was concerned, and we were waiting for Axl to complete the songs. So the timing was perfect. Nails were about to go on the road again, and I wanted to go out on the road with them.

Review: So how has the 'Fragile' tour been going?

Robin: In January we went to Japan and then Australia. In Japan we did our own shows in theatres and Sumo wrestling arenas. It was winter and cold, but when we hit Australia we did outdoor festivals with 50,000 people and played in-between the Foo Fighters and The Chili Peppers, so that was much more fun.

Review: What is the new stage show like?

Robin: It's relatively sleek in design compared to the last tour, which was more frantic & decrepit. We've got a lot of new songs, even ones we didn't do in Europe or Australia. We're using a new technology that I've been told has never been used in a tour that incorporates LED panels as a light source. From a distance at the audience perspective, it's similar to a video monitor and is pretty cool. Looking at these panels up close they are made up of red, blue, and green LED lights 9 inches apart from one another. The clarity is amazing.

Review: So what do you do during the day when you're on the road?

Robin: I like to walk around and be by myself during the day. I've done a lot of time with a map in one hand, a bag over my shoulder, scratching my face and going, huh?

Review: Whereas it used to 'sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll', what three words describe life on the road these days?

Robin: For me there's a difference, but I still know people doing sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll. It's like to each his own and different strokes for different folks that are different points in their strategy, whatever that may be.

Review: At the end of a tour after traveling and doing interviews or whatever, do you ever feel like you wished you didn't have to play those last few gigs?

Robin: Sometimes, but usually it's because something happened emotionally during the day that doesn't have anything to do with the show, or else something technical has gone wrong that has everything to do with the show. But whatever it is, as soon as you get into the first number, it goes out the window and you are hyperfocused on that moment where nothing else matters. And that's why I'm here. It makes it all worthwhile for me.

FUCK the posers and frauds who now praise robin after slamming and him and calling him gay and saying how he sucks for years. fuck you.

Worst post I have ever seen. Your blind Finck worshipping is pathetic. Now that you have been banned, seek psychiatric help. During the last tour, all the Finck "slamming" was well deserved. He fucked up tremendously on old songs he should have easily been able to play. To make matters even worse, he even fucked up on his own songs. Normal people in society are willing to admit that, but the blind Finck love prevents others from seeing it. In 2006, he is much improved, and us normal people are willing to admit that. He obviously practiced alot from 2002-06. Would you rather people just say he sucks even though he has improved? Of course you would. It gives you something to bitch about, and gives you the opportunity to defend your love. Get over it.