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Title: How much $
Post by: Tank on July 14, 2005, 07:54:34 PM
I have always wondered just how much money members of the band made during their stint.  I remember reading one of the early Rollingstone Axl interviews where he claims to have made around 2 mil.  Just how much money would you guess they made from royalties and touring alltogether?

Also when Matt, Gibly, and Dizzy were brought on were they "members", or just "employees" of the band?


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 14, 2005, 08:06:39 PM
Axl and Izzy made the most money, since they wrote most of the songs. Its definitely alot more than 2 million. Probably tens of millions, but I dont know an exact figure. Gilby, Matt, and Dizzy weren't real members of the band, more like disposable heroes.


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: BigCombo on July 14, 2005, 08:31:00 PM
Sometime during the Illusions tour, the band got together and counted their money.  After $100 million dollars, they stopped counting....


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: chineseblues on July 14, 2005, 08:35:27 PM
Axl and Izzy made the most money, since they wrote most of the songs. Its definitely alot more than 2 million. Probably tens of millions, but I dont know an exact figure. Gilby, Matt, and Dizzy weren't real members of the band, more like disposable heroes.

Funny how Dizzy is listed as a member of the band on Live Era ;)


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 14, 2005, 08:41:38 PM
That's because Dizzy is Axl's lap dog.


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: Smoking Guns on July 14, 2005, 08:49:26 PM
From 87-93, GNR made 57 million total.  Axl's share was 43%.


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: Tank on July 14, 2005, 08:54:25 PM
From 87-93, GNR made 57 million total.  Axl's share was 43%.

Source?


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: gilld1 on July 14, 2005, 09:06:03 PM
Dizzy is the Gimp.  He lives in a cage in Axl's basement and only gets out to rehearse and tour.  So.....he doesn't get out much!


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 14, 2005, 09:19:58 PM
Since Dizzy has been brought up, i have a question. Since Dizzy has supposedly bean a real member of GNR, where was he in 94-95? If a GNR album had been released in that time frame, he would not have been on the album. For a brief moment in time, GNR was Axl, Slash, Duff and Matt. So where was Dizzy?


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: gilld1 on July 14, 2005, 09:24:44 PM
I think he was running Axl's errands for him.  I think that the guys just felt sorry for him and nobody had the heart to tell him to leave.  I don't even think he was plugged in during the UYI tour!


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: Smoking Guns on July 14, 2005, 09:29:28 PM
I think a 1999 Spin article showed what they made and showed the formula Axl came up with for royalties.  I think they split ticket revenue evenly.  Rollingstone had an article on it once too.  Jarmo is familiar with this and can describe it better.


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on July 14, 2005, 10:00:27 PM
Since Dizzy has been brought up, i have a question. Since Dizzy has supposedly bean a real member of GNR, where was he in 94-95? If a GNR album had been released in that time frame, he would not have been on the album. For a brief moment in time, GNR was Axl, Slash, Duff and Matt. So where was Dizzy?

Wow I didn't even know that he wasn't around in that time frame.


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: N.I.B on July 14, 2005, 10:16:10 PM
they made too much money


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 14, 2005, 10:20:07 PM
DTJ, its true. But alot of people dont seem to remember this little tidbit of info. I've seen a few others in the forums mention this also. If Axl ever returns, and grants some interviews, I hope someone asks him about what was going on in that brief moment in time.


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: W. Botaxl Rose on July 14, 2005, 10:58:40 PM
I seem to remember reading waaay back that axl was cut a $32 million check for his share of what I think was just the UYI tour. Maybe that also included his share of sales for the 2 albums as well?

The scary thing is that for how much coin axl has, it could be that much more if only GNR had put a little more thought into their merchandising since the early 90's. Although, I've heard/read that axl's not allowed alot of merchandising to spite the former band members. Anyone else ever read this?



Title: Re: How much $
Post by: D on July 14, 2005, 11:02:37 PM
every member of the current GNR get a salary

it is not split equal ways

Jon Bon Jovi is the only member of Bon Jovi signed to the record label, he pays the bandmembers a salary

Axl probably pays them 20,000 a gig or so and he takes home 2 to 3 hundred thousand per show.

GNR made way more than 57 million between 87-93

they made that probably on record sales alone

their tours made 200 million all together easy.


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: Saul on July 14, 2005, 11:07:39 PM
20 bucks.  : ok:


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: 33 on July 15, 2005, 05:49:10 AM
On the subject of Dizzy, this really kinda bugs me. The man has been in the band since 1990 and yet some people still say that he is not a real member, or Axls lapdog etc etc. At the end of the day people who say this. Axl wanted a bloody keyboardist in the band and asked Dizzy and he accepted simple as that!!! He is a fully fledged member and at least he has stuck around to see it all through instead of leaving. And what is his reward for that? He gets accused constantly of not being a real member of the band!


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: Izzy on July 15, 2005, 06:00:07 AM
I think a 1999 Spin article showed what they made and showed the formula Axl came up with for royalties.?

It was Slash that came up with the formula


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: Christos AG on July 15, 2005, 08:16:23 AM
I don't if this has ever been mentioned, but back in the days (1991-1993) the band had $20.000 to spend at each hotel they visited. They could buy anything they wanted from the shops inside the hotels...


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: GNR - CROATIA on July 15, 2005, 08:19:35 AM
Slash officially had 170$ million.
Axl had 10 more or so.
These figures were posted backin 99.


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: chineseblues on July 15, 2005, 08:49:48 AM
every member of the current GNR get a salary

it is not split equal ways

Jon Bon Jovi is the only member of Bon Jovi signed to the record label, he pays the bandmembers a salary

Axl probably pays them 20,000 a gig or so and he takes home 2 to 3 hundred thousand per show.

GNR made way more than 57 million between 87-93

they made that probably on record sales alone

their tours made 200 million all together easy.

I heard the members got around $50, 000 per show.


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: ppbebe on July 15, 2005, 09:37:56 AM
Slash officially had 170$ million.
Axl had 10 more or so.
These figures were posted backin 99.
Really? hmmm that 13 million of production costs sound like chicken feed.

Money is paper. (for some)


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: madagas on July 15, 2005, 09:39:40 AM
Literally......chicken feed...as food to feed our boy Bucket! : ok:


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on July 15, 2005, 04:15:38 PM
On the subject of Dizzy, this really kinda bugs me. The man has been in the band since 1990 and yet some people still say that he is not a real member, or Axls lapdog etc etc. At the end of the day people who say this. Axl wanted a bloody keyboardist in the band and asked Dizzy and he accepted simple as that!!! He is a fully fledged member and at least he has stuck around to see it all through instead of leaving. And what is his reward for that? He gets accused constantly of not being a real member of the band!

*applause*

"(Along with Paul,) the only man from the old lineup who stayed loyal and worked hard everyday is on the keyboards, Mr. Dizzy Reed. Well, so much for the past, this is Live 'n Let Die."~ Axl Rose, Rock in Rio III, 1/15/01

these are the same 'fans' who Axl spoke about at the Pepsi Arena on 11/27/01 "that's why these guys worked real hard at being in a band that they can get abuse for, because "they're the guys in the way of getting the old band back together."

Alot of these same fans include Matt "what's with the piano?" Sorum in thier calculation when they laud VR as "3/5ths of GN'R"

Other than Axl, Dizzy has been in Guns N' Roses longer than any other GN'R alumni.? The man deserves some respect from the fans.? :beer:

so lets stop with the Dizzy insults!? :rant:

and show a little Dizzy love!? :love:

as for the thread topic...   I don't care how much money they have.   Slash and Duff's lawsuit against Axl and Matt's accusations that Axl has tried to screw hm out of royalties does make me believe however that they're pretty un-fucking-satisfied with whatever they've got.  I'm glad that Axl has managed to keep his finances private.

What's more important than what any of the guys have in their pocket, I believe, is the contribution that Guns N' Roses has made to the industry in terms of revenue and employment.  It's not the hundreds of thousands or millions even that they 'took away' from the UYI Tours for example, but all the people that were emplyed through their touring.
And most of the money spend on CD to date, I'm sure was by way of wages paid to engineers, technicians, and other studio hires...    Think about how many meals CD has put on the table of those employed in its creation and production!   ;D


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: N.I.B on July 15, 2005, 04:27:46 PM
I think these figures show us the meaning of "Eat the Rich"


Title: Re: How much $
Post by: michaelvincent on July 16, 2005, 12:27:18 PM
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the band had wanted Dizzy back before Appetite but at the time he was on the injured list with a broken hand or soemthing like that. So they continued on without a keyboardist and then sort of lost touch. Around Illusions they decided to bring him on. Or something like that, I don't remember the details.

As for Axl, I am sure that he has quite a bit of money. Though substantially less these days if the stories of his label refused to pay into the recording sessions anymore are true. Studios, producers, engineers, and lawyers are expensive when you have to foot the bill yourself. Though I'm sure there are people around here who beleive that he has some never ending supply of cash and will never go bankrupt just because he is Axl Rose.  :hihi: