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Title: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jameslofton29 on May 02, 2005, 07:45:58 PM I've never understood the GNR fans' mentality towards Scott Weiland. Does everyone hate him just for the fact that he's now with ex members of GNR? I'll be the first to admit that Contraband is a very weak effort by such extreme talent. But people shouldn't deny STP's contribution to the music world. In fact, during the 12 year absence of Axl, the closest thing the music world ever got to a new Guns N Roses was Stone Temple Pilots.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Saul on May 02, 2005, 07:48:13 PM wrong section homeboy. : ok:
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: tomass74 on May 02, 2005, 08:31:01 PM Scott is a great frontman and always has been......
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jgfnsr on May 02, 2005, 10:39:46 PM I've never understood the GNR fans' mentality towards Scott Weiland. Does everyone hate him just for the fact that he's now with ex members of GNR? Don't hate 'em, it's just tough getting used to seeing Weiland (instead of the greatest frontman alive) next to Slash, Duff, etc. Quote I'll be the first to admit that Contraband is a very weak effort by such extreme talent. Right-o on that one. Quote But people shouldn't deny STP's contribution to the music world. In fact, during the 12 year absence of Axl, the closest thing the music world ever got to a new Guns N Roses was Stone Temple Pilots. Uuuhhhh.....don't think so. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 02, 2005, 10:43:57 PM Scott cant write good lyrics. He can't sing the gnr songs that they play on tour right. He absolutely murders them. He sucks plain and simple.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Krispy Kreme on May 02, 2005, 10:55:34 PM I disagree with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite live.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 02, 2005, 11:14:19 PM I disagree with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite live. The album is sub par at best. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: RichardNixon on May 02, 2005, 11:29:56 PM STP is one of my favorite bands, so I was really pleased when he was picked to front VR. And I don't think most GN'R fans dislike. I think the oposite is true, the fans DO like him. Btw, check out "12 Bar Blues," Scott's a real creative guy.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 03, 2005, 12:13:15 AM I disagree? with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and? others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite? live. The album is sub par at best. I say you can't pull your head out of Axl's ass to even bother listening to or viewing the band live. They kick ass. thats about it. Also, there have been a few articles around stating that STP influence in some bands today holds very strong. STP was a very good band. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 03, 2005, 12:18:21 AM Scott cant write good lyrics. He can't sing the gnr songs that they play on tour right. He absolutely murders them. He sucks plain and simple. Here is what really pisses me off. Everyone at these shows seems to enjoy it every bit. Why don't you try to do it better then, instead of sitting here, ripping on someone who puts your whole life to shame. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: killingvector on May 03, 2005, 01:10:33 AM Scott's lyrics are fine, but I don't find songs about drug abuse to mirror any of the issues going on in my life. YGNR though is a very good song.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jameslofton29 on May 03, 2005, 02:54:52 AM Scott cant write?? I guess you never heard Sex Type thing, Wicked Garden, Big Empty, Sour Girl,etc. Before you judge someone, maybe you should go listen to one of their albums.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: darkmonth on May 03, 2005, 05:55:53 AM Scott cant write good lyrics. He can't sing the gnr songs that they play on tour right. He absolutely murders them. He sucks plain and simple. And Robin Finck fuck's up most of GnR's back catalog whist playing IN GnR... you can rubbish Scott's talents all you want, but you're talking shit. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jameslofton29 on May 03, 2005, 07:02:42 AM Ozzy, you forgot one thing about Robin: How shitty he is at backing vocals. Sometimes I cringe when I listen to it. The backing vocals are the worst thing about new GNR. You can see why its taking so long for CD, Axl has to do all the singing himself! Anyways, I cant stand the Scott bashers. Stone Temple Pilots kept rock alive during the grunge years. Where was Axl during that awkward era in music history? In a fucking cave. So give credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jarmo on May 03, 2005, 08:21:18 AM Wow, a thread about Scott not being so great like some of you say he is turned into a thread about Robin Finck and Axl.
You guys are "funny". Can't stand the fact that Weiland isn't a "legend" everywhere? I never cared about Scott Weiland. During the 1990s I always preferred people like Layne Staley, Chris Cornell, Kurt Cobain, Eddie Vedder and Billy Corgan to him. /jarmo Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Mikkamakka on May 03, 2005, 08:25:58 AM That's happenin always. Last time you tried to turn an argument about Richard's session works to a 'Slash played with Blackstreet etc.' thread. People associate, nothing's wrong with that.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: darkmonth on May 03, 2005, 08:30:18 AM Wow, a thread about Scott not being so great like some of you say he is turned into a thread about Robin Finck and Axl. You guys are "funny". Can't stand the fact that Weiland isn't a "legend" everywhere? I never cared about Scott Weiland. During the 1990s I always preferred people like Layne Staley, Chris Cornell, Kurt Cobain, Eddie Vedder and Billy Corgan to him. /jarmo He was making a point about how shit Scott is on the GnR songs, as if he has to be a certain way with them... and come on Jarmo... you KNOW he was only doing that because he's one of these people who hates anything outside of GnR unless it is Axl.... I'm normally quite quiet these days as you know, and rarely slag off people or band members, but I thought I'd illustrate the point that some people (myself included), think it's more important for Robin to be fucking perfect on GnR songs than it is for Scott... considering Scott is only covering them, and Robin is in the band.... because that guy will almost certainly say that Robin's playing is utterly flawless and perfect. Making his previous statement pointless. Ah whatever... Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jarmo on May 03, 2005, 08:37:43 AM That's happenin always. Last time you tried to turn an argument about Richard's session works to a 'Slash played with Blackstreet etc.' thread. People associate, nothing's wrong with that. Oh but there's a difference. In my case it wasn't a negative comment. I just pointed out how Slash had played with different people too. Nothing wrong with that. In this case people started posting negative comments about GN'R. Still, the most interesting thing about seeing VR live are Duff and Slash in my opinion. /jarmo Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Mikkamakka on May 03, 2005, 11:58:07 AM That's happenin always. Last time you tried to turn an argument about Richard's session works to a 'Slash played with Blackstreet etc.' thread. People associate, nothing's wrong with that. Oh but there's a difference. In my case it wasn't a negative comment. I just pointed out how Slash had played with different people too. Nothing wrong with that. In this case people started posting negative comments about GN'R. Still, the most interesting thing about seeing VR live are Duff and Slash in my opinion. /jarmo I have to agree on that. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 03, 2005, 12:04:21 PM Wow, a thread about Scott not being so great like some of you say he is turned into a thread about Robin Finck and Axl. You guys are "funny". Can't stand the fact that Weiland isn't a "legend" everywhere? I never cared about Scott Weiland. During the 1990s I always preferred people like Layne Staley, Chris Cornell, Kurt Cobain, Eddie Vedder and Billy Corgan to him. /jarmo He was making a point about how shit Scott is on the GnR songs, as if he has to be a certain way with them... and come on Jarmo... you KNOW he was only doing that because he's one of these people who hates anything outside of GnR unless it is Axl.... I'm normally quite quiet these days as you know, and rarely slag off people or band members, but I thought I'd illustrate the point that some people (myself included), think it's more important for Robin to be fucking perfect on GnR songs than it is for Scott... considering Scott is only covering them, and Robin is in the band.... because that guy will almost certainly say that Robin's playing is utterly flawless and perfect. Making his previous statement pointless. Ah whatever... Im not allowed to have the opinion that Scott sounds like shit on gnr songs? Wow who would have thought that people would think like that on GUNS N ROSES forum. Certainly not me ::) Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Krispy Kreme on May 03, 2005, 01:16:18 PM I disagree? with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and? others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite? live. The album is sub par at best. Aren't sales 3 million and still going strong? Doesn't that tell you something? Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Budweiser Froggs on May 03, 2005, 02:58:01 PM i guarantee that the people who are dissing scott havent seen him live.
i was just at the vr concert on friday and scott was so awesome to see live. i was skeptical about him before but now i can see why they chose him. that guy knows how to rock. during the concert he went all the way to the other side of the stadium and all the way up to the top in the middle of 10,000 people to sing part of sex type thing...thats what a rockstar is all about! Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: boston on May 03, 2005, 04:38:34 PM I will have to agree, only when thinking financially was scott the right choice, that kinda makes me sad, old school rock n roll with josh todd singin is what should have happened-----i dont really dig this rock/grunge hybrid quite as much
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 03, 2005, 04:47:53 PM I disagree with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite live. The album is sub par at best. Aren't sales 3 million and still going strong? Doesn't that tell you something? *sigh* Britney Spears' albums usually sell more then that. Does that mean her albums are good? Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Mikkamakka on May 03, 2005, 05:12:51 PM I disagree? with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and? others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite? live. The album is sub par at best. Aren't sales 3 million and still going strong? Doesn't that tell you something? *sigh* Britney Spears' albums usually sell more then that. Does that mean her albums are good? *sigh* Do VR make the same mainstream music like Britney? Are they the American dream? Please... Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 03, 2005, 05:17:47 PM I disagree with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite live. The album is sub par at best. Aren't sales 3 million and still going strong? Doesn't that tell you something? *sigh* Britney Spears' albums usually sell more then that. Does that mean her albums are good? *sigh* Do VR make the same mainstream music like Britney? Are they the American dream? Please... Just because you have an infatuation with slash doesnt mean the album is good. Hell the first snakepit album was better then contraband. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on May 03, 2005, 05:24:56 PM Scott cant write?? I guess you never heard Sex Type thing, Wicked Garden, Big Empty, Sour Girl,etc. Before you judge someone, maybe you should go listen to one of their albums. those songs are good and they show his talent, but I wish he had shown us that talent on Contraband. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: GnFnR87 on May 03, 2005, 08:51:06 PM Still, the most interesting thing about seeing VR live are Duff and Slash in my opinion. /jarmo i guarantee that the people who are dissing scott havent seen him live. i was just at the vr concert on friday and scott was so awesome to see live.? i was skeptical about him before but now i can see why they chose him.? that guy knows how to rock.? during the concert he went all the way to the other side of the stadium and all the way up to the top in the middle of 10,000 people to sing part of sex type thing...thats what a rockstar is all about! could'nt have put it better Budweiser Froggs i was a bit skeptical of him too. But jarmo, you're killin' me!! i think Scott is one of, if not the most exciting, entertaining, and captivating frontman since Axl!!? I saw VR live at Roseland Ballroom in NYC last year and i loved scott so much that i looked into Stone Temple Pilots some more and got the albums. Before this i thought they were just Pearl Jam wannabes cuz i listened to the stupid media instead of listening for myself. Sure Core has obvious grunge/Pearl Jam influences but? the other albums are totally different. Stone Temple Pilots are INCREDIBLY underrated. Five albums, five unique sounds, and an absolutely? killer live show. I will agree that based on their past bands, VR should be much better, but i think Contraband was decent and their live show is unbelievable. As i said before i was at first very skeptical of scott since GNR is my number one favorite band, but i gave him a chance and looked into STP stuff and now they are one of my favorite bands as well. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Krispy Kreme on May 04, 2005, 01:06:18 PM I disagree? with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and? others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite? live. The album is sub par at best. Aren't sales 3 million and still going strong? Doesn't that tell you something? *sigh* Britney Spears' albums usually sell more then that. Does that mean her albums are good? *sigh* Do VR make the same mainstream music like Britney? Are they the American dream? Please... Just because you have an infatuation with slash doesnt mean the album is good. Hell the first snakepit album was better then contraband. I am not sure who you are talking to, but if the response it to me, I don't have any kind of "infatuation" with Slash, or any of the other members of GNR/VR for that matter. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but IMHFO the correct ordering of Slash't post-GNR albums is: 1. Ain't Life Grand 2. Contraband 3. It's 5 O'clock somewhere But back to the thread: Scott is key ingredient why VR is so captivating live. I think Slash and Duff knew what they were doing when they recruited him. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: slash4ever on May 04, 2005, 01:40:45 PM Most people diss Scott coz he's "not" Axl. Velvet Revolver are not Guns n Roses, and SOME of us need to get used to that,.
Scott Weiland is doing a shit load more than Axl. (Remember people- Chinese Democray??) This still means that Axl is the number one frontman of all time though! : ok: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 04, 2005, 01:42:35 PM I disagree with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite live. The album is sub par at best. Aren't sales 3 million and still going strong? Doesn't that tell you something? *sigh* Britney Spears' albums usually sell more then that. Does that mean her albums are good? *sigh* Do VR make the same mainstream music like Britney? Are they the American dream? Please... Just because you have an infatuation with slash doesnt mean the album is good. Hell the first snakepit album was better then contraband. I am not sure who you are talking to, but if the response it to me, I don't have any kind of "infatuation" with Slash, or any of the other members of GNR/VR for that matter. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but IMHFO the correct ordering of Slash't post-GNR albums is: 1. Ain't Life Grand 2. Contraband 3. It's 5 O'clock somewhere But back to the thread: Scott is key ingredient why VR is so captivating live. I think Slash and Duff knew what they were doing when they recruited him. It was directed towards Mikkamakka... VR would have been a million times better if they got Bach or Josh Todd to be the frontman instean of weiland. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Evolution on May 04, 2005, 02:12:38 PM Scott is a damn fine frontman who is currently in VR. Bach isnt, neither is Todd so concentrate on Weiland
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Krispy Kreme on May 04, 2005, 10:38:28 PM I disagree? with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and? others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite? live. The album is sub par at best. Aren't sales 3 million and still going strong? Doesn't that tell you something? *sigh* Britney Spears' albums usually sell more then that. Does that mean her albums are good? *sigh* Do VR make the same mainstream music like Britney? Are they the American dream? Please... Just because you have an infatuation with slash doesnt mean the album is good. Hell the first snakepit album was better then contraband. I am not sure who you are talking to, but if the response it to me, I don't have any kind of "infatuation" with Slash, or any of the other members of GNR/VR for that matter. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but IMHFO the correct ordering of Slash't post-GNR albums is: 1. Ain't Life Grand 2. Contraband 3. It's 5 O'clock somewhere But back to the thread: Scott is key ingredient why VR is so captivating live. I think Slash and Duff knew what they were doing when they recruited him. It was directed towards Mikkamakka... VR would have been a million times better if they got Bach or Josh Todd to be the frontman instean of weiland. Ok. :peace: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Wooody on May 05, 2005, 10:31:23 AM stp and scott's solo work owns contraband and everything slash and duff ever did.
But on VR ?? scott blows. Why ? Idunno, all of a sudden he's wearing leather and having this fucking attitude. It doesn't suit him. It looks and sounds fake. STP owns, VR blows. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 06, 2005, 12:34:40 AM stp and scott's solo work owns contraband and everything slash and duff ever did. But on VR ?? scott blows. Why ? Idunno, all of a sudden he's wearing leather and having this fucking attitude. It doesn't suit him. It looks and sounds fake. STP owns, VR? blows. Everything you have stated here is false. Here is scott trying something different. Would you want to do the same fucking thing that you did ten years ago. Scott is a glam rocker through and through. Suits Slash and Duff, and is he ideal L.A. rock attitude. Owns slash and duff? Are you kidding? I don't see dean deleo having his own signature guitars. And people screaming for dean before shows. As much as I like his work, dean is no Slash. Get a fucking clue. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Wooody on May 06, 2005, 08:33:24 AM stp and scott's solo work owns contraband and everything slash and duff ever did. But on VR ?? scott blows. Why ? Idunno, all of a sudden he's wearing leather and having this fucking attitude. It doesn't suit him. It looks and sounds fake. STP owns, VR? blows. Everything you have stated here is false. Here is scott trying something different. Would you want to do the same fucking thing that you did ten years ago. Scott is a glam rocker through and through. Suits Slash and Duff, and is he ideal L.A. rock attitude. Owns slash and duff? Are you kidding? I don't see dean deleo having his own signature guitars. And people screaming for dean before shows. As much as I like his work, dean is no Slash. Get a fucking clue. Everything I stated is false? Are we talking about history here? Slash is god but face it, snakepit sucks compared to GNR, and yes STP is better than Snakepit, slash guitar work is better than Dean but as a whole, STP owns snakepit. Don't make it a Dean Vs Slash battle, because it ain't. As for Scott trying something different, he did, if you knew something about STP you would know that Core sounds very different from Shangri la dee da and the latter sounds nothing like 12 bar blues. "Where's the man" and "Son" own every song on Contraband. But I don't blame Scott, It's not his fault that VR sucks, it's his fake chemistry with Slash and his short boring and uninspired solos. You're just another VR fan in denial. Get a clue, wake up and smell the coffee: You Have bad taste. :peace: :hihi: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Top-Hatted One on May 06, 2005, 08:49:39 AM There are a couple of reasons why Scott work in Contraband is not as deep as his work in STP:
For one he is not on drugs 2) they didn't take their time with this record because theyir goal was to make an Appetite/Core agressive rock debut. Now they can branch out with the 2nd album and the fact that they've developed chemistry through touring will make it even better! Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Butch Français on May 06, 2005, 10:14:33 AM I disagree? with the nay-sayers toward VR and would go into detail but I have not the energy and it would make no difference. For some reason the board, and? others, have dichotmized into "love them or hate them" based upon the GNR split. I would just say this: see Vr live and your opinion might change. In short, have an open mind. No one, at least that I can see, is saying VR is equal to or better than GNR. But to trash VR is silly. The album is solid and they are dynamite? live. The album is sub par at best. Aren't sales 3 million and still going strong? Doesn't that tell you something? *sigh* Britney Spears' albums usually sell more then that. Does that mean her albums are good? no, but there's a difference between music that is fabricated/designed so that stupid teenage girls wanna buy it, and music that is self-made from scratch by a band of musicians, who also performs the songs instead of selling them to an 18 year-old future playboy-chick. a real rock album selling as well as Contraband these days is very impressive! and the album is rock solid, not the best rock album released, but it's definately not a bad album! and yeah I agree with most of the people in here, Scott fuckin rocks, he's an incredible frontman! the most exciting thing about seeing VR live is Slash, Duff and Scott! Matt and Dave are cool too though. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: providman on May 06, 2005, 10:33:17 AM Man, it seems the longer Axl deprives his minions of his stupid little album the dumber his diehard fans get.
There does seem to be a direct correlation. A year ago I didn't think they could possibly get any dumber. I was wrong. I can't imagine what kind of posts we'll be seeing a year from now. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jarmo on May 06, 2005, 10:59:28 AM Man, it seems the longer Axl deprives his minions of his stupid little album the dumber his diehard fans get. There does seem to be a direct correlation. A year ago I didn't think they could possibly get any dumber. I was wrong. I can't imagine what kind of posts we'll be seeing a year from now. No, you just showed how fucking stupid people can be. : ok: /jarmo Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 06, 2005, 08:31:00 PM stp and scott's solo work owns contraband and everything slash and duff ever did. But on VR ?? scott blows. Why ? Idunno, all of a sudden he's wearing leather and having this fucking attitude. It doesn't suit him. It looks and sounds fake. STP owns, VR? blows. Everything you have stated here is false. Here is scott trying something different. Would you want to do the same fucking thing that you did ten years ago. Scott is a glam rocker through and through. Suits Slash and Duff, and is he ideal L.A. rock attitude. Owns slash and duff? Are you kidding? I don't see dean deleo having his own signature guitars. And people screaming for dean before shows. As much as I like his work, dean is no Slash. Get a fucking clue. Everything I stated is false? Are we talking about history here? Slash is god but face it, snakepit sucks compared to GNR, and yes STP is better than Snakepit, slash guitar work is? better than Dean but as a whole, STP owns snakepit. Don't make it a Dean Vs Slash battle, because it ain't. As for Scott trying something different, he did, if you knew something about STP you would know that Core sounds very different from Shangri la dee da and the latter sounds nothing like 12 bar blues. "Where's the man" and "Son" own every song on Contraband. But I don't blame Scott, It's not his fault that VR sucks, it's his fake chemistry with Slash and his short boring and uninspired solos. You're just another VR fan in denial. Get a clue, wake up and smell the coffee: You Have bad taste. :peace: :hihi: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 06, 2005, 08:35:09 PM stp and scott's solo work owns contraband and everything slash and duff ever did. But on VR ?? scott blows. Why ? Idunno, all of a sudden he's wearing leather and having this fucking attitude. It doesn't suit him. It looks and sounds fake. STP owns, VR? blows. Everything you have stated here is false. Here is scott trying something different. Would you want to do the same fucking thing that you did ten years ago. Scott is a glam rocker through and through. Suits Slash and Duff, and is he ideal L.A. rock attitude. Owns slash and duff? Are you kidding? I don't see dean deleo having his own signature guitars. And people screaming for dean before shows. As much as I like his work, dean is no Slash. Get a fucking clue. Everything I stated is false? Are we talking about history here? Slash is god but face it, snakepit sucks compared to GNR, and yes STP is better than Snakepit, slash guitar work is? better than Dean but as a whole, STP owns snakepit. Don't make it a Dean Vs Slash battle, because it ain't. As for Scott trying something different, he did, if you knew something about STP you would know that Core sounds very different from Shangri la dee da and the latter sounds nothing like 12 bar blues. "Where's the man" and "Son" own every song on Contraband. But I don't blame Scott, It's not his fault that VR sucks, it's his fake chemistry with Slash and his short boring and uninspired solos. You're just another VR fan in denial. Get a clue, wake up and smell the coffee: You Have bad taste. :peace: :hihi: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: W. Botaxl Rose on May 07, 2005, 12:38:30 AM Man, it seems the longer Axl deprives his minions of his stupid little album the dumber his diehard fans get. There does seem to be a direct correlation. A year ago I didn't think they could possibly get any dumber. I was wrong. I can't imagine what kind of posts we'll be seeing a year from now. No, you just showed how fucking stupid people can be.? : ok: /jarmo yeah, u told him..........................NOT! Although i must admit, i do feel a little bad 4 u jarms, of all the guys to have based a site on, u know? Then, constantly having to come up with lame ass defenses & denials & always having to side with retards, must get pretty old. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Wooody on May 07, 2005, 04:44:31 AM stp and scott's solo work owns contraband and everything slash and duff ever did. But on VR ?? scott blows. Why ? Idunno, all of a sudden he's wearing leather and having this fucking attitude. It doesn't suit him. It looks and sounds fake. STP owns, VR? blows. Everything you have stated here is false. Here is scott trying something different. Would you want to do the same fucking thing that you did ten years ago. Scott is a glam rocker through and through. Suits Slash and Duff, and is he ideal L.A. rock attitude. Owns slash and duff? Are you kidding? I don't see dean deleo having his own signature guitars. And people screaming for dean before shows. As much as I like his work, dean is no Slash. Get a fucking clue. Everything I stated is false? Are we talking about history here? Slash is god but face it, snakepit sucks compared to GNR, and yes STP is better than Snakepit, slash guitar work is? better than Dean but as a whole, STP owns snakepit. Don't make it a Dean Vs Slash battle, because it ain't. As for Scott trying something different, he did, if you knew something about STP you would know that Core sounds very different from Shangri la dee da and the latter sounds nothing like 12 bar blues. "Where's the man" and "Son" own every song on Contraband. But I don't blame Scott, It's not his fault that VR sucks, it's his fake chemistry with Slash and his short boring and uninspired solos. You're just another VR fan in denial. Get a clue, wake up and smell the coffee: You Have bad taste. :peace: :hihi: Hey also, I wanted to point out one more thing. STP was not that good of a band either. And if you knew anything about STP, you would realize that the reason Core sounds different from the rest of their albums, is because of dean. Ah I love it when internet haters have to resort to insults on a message board, it proves they have already lost the debate. I was at the VR show in Berlin when they got booed? :hihi: it was hilarious ! (so much for changing one's mind after seeing a concert) Scott has been in and out rehab for the thousanth time....... well he should be used to it by now :P why would this time be any different ? 12 bar blues was done under hard circumstances as well and it came out great. Scott is awesome, in or out of rehab, that's why I blame slash for VR's mediocrity. And if you knew anything about STP you would know that Scott was the main reason why the rest of the albums sound different, less grunge and more DOORS influence stuff.? But you don't, you're just making stuff up to try and sound like you know what you're talking about, well keep on dancing in circles? : ok: ps: you wanna smell that bloody coffee ? 'cause I think it's cold now !? :hihi: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: St.heathen on May 07, 2005, 06:29:22 AM I think people have a go at Scott because they are bored. What's the bet the people that still have a problem with him, already made their minds up before they actually heard anything? They are bitter that he is not Axl, they are bitter that They didn't choose an old schooler like Seb Bach and at that point they knew they wouldn't like this band.
When people have a go at him for being a wasted junkie then you know what kind of people they are. No experience of life and no sense of understanding. If Axl was out there doing what he should be doing, i don't think these people would waste their time posting such strong comments on someone they apparently don't like. And i'm wondering whats so good about them being booed? I mean unless your a retarded teenager - to be amused by musicians getting booed is a bit sad. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: AxlStaleyWeiland on May 07, 2005, 11:22:11 AM Man, it seems the longer Axl deprives his minions of his stupid little album the dumber his diehard fans get. so true, so true, Im embarrassed for all the ignorant Axl worship, I love Axl's musical talent, but the guy is an ego maniac asshole who treats fans like garbage, Scott kicks ass, VR would have been a joke with Bach or Todd, and they currently are anything but a joke, I dont care what happenned in Germany, they love David Hasselhoff over there, need I say more. In the States they kick every cities ass they play and get tons of radio play and critical acclaimThere does seem to be a direct correlation. A year ago I didn't think they could possibly get any dumber. I was wrong. I can't imagine what kind of posts we'll be seeing a year from now. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Wooody on May 07, 2005, 11:58:39 AM I dont care what happenned in Germany, they love David Hasselhoff over there so what? the U.S. loves Britney Spears and 50 cent :hihi: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 07, 2005, 12:18:14 PM Scott cant write good lyrics. He can't sing the gnr songs that they play on tour right. He absolutely murders them. He sucks plain and simple. you talk more shit then anyone I have ever met.. Let me tell you the stp albums blow away anything new gnr has done.. The man has had many hits, so your argument is moot.... Scott can't write but you are the one who was cumming in his pants over a shitty 32 second clip of irs.. Your opinion is bias ,just like your board is.. You'll love the idea richard is playing with some 80's one hit wonder nena, but anything everyone who was once in gnr does sucks.. If slash did that he would be a sell out.. Your opinions are just the same you never see good in one song, anything outside of new gnr.. People piss on weiland for the same reasons they piss on metallica, ozzy, zakk wylde motley crue (vince) kurt cobain, dee snider, josh holmes, etc.. If you say one thing bad about axl everyone needs a tissue and says they suck Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 07, 2005, 12:31:23 PM Man, it seems the longer Axl deprives his minions of his stupid little album the dumber his diehard fans get. so true, so true, Im embarrassed for all the ignorant Axl worship, I love Axl's musical talent, but the guy is an ego maniac asshole who treats fans like garbage, Scott kicks ass, VR would have been a joke with Bach or Todd, and they currently are anything but a joke, I dont care what happenned in Germany, they love David Hasselhoff over there, need I say more. In the States they kick every cities ass they play and get tons of radio play and critical acclaimThere does seem to be a direct correlation. A year ago I didn't think they could possibly get any dumber. I was wrong. I can't imagine what kind of posts we'll be seeing a year from now. I agree. Woody is merely a pecker. Hate scott all you want to. It won't bring Axl any closer to you. I won't get started on what Germany has produced or ever been a fan of(Scorpions). Scott Weiland is doing a great job like it or not. And because you are dumbass, and I made that apparent to you and everyone else here, does not mean that I lost anything. I merely stated the obvious. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 07, 2005, 12:33:47 PM Man, it seems the longer Axl deprives his minions of his stupid little album the dumber his diehard fans get. There does seem to be a direct correlation. A year ago I didn't think they could possibly get any dumber. I was wrong. I can't imagine what kind of posts we'll be seeing a year from now. I agree with this also. You people are pathetic. You post more then 25 pages full of crap while you wait to hear a single from Axl and co. on the radio. Then post another 25+ pages for a concert in Ga. that I was smart enough to brush off. You people actually thought Axl was going to show up at some bumfuck town bar? You people make me laugh. Get a life. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 07, 2005, 12:39:43 PM Scott cant write good lyrics. He can't sing the gnr songs that they play on tour right. He absolutely murders them. He sucks plain and simple. you talk more shit then anyone I have ever met.. Let me tell you the stp albums blow away anything new gnr has done.. The man has had many hits, so your argument is moot.... Scott can't write but you are the one who was cumming in his pants over a shitty 32 second clip of irs.. Your opinion is bias ,just like your board is.. You'll love the idea richard is playing with some 80's one hit wonder nena, but anything everyone who was once in gnr does sucks.. If slash did that he would be a sell out.. Your opinions are just the same you never see good in one song, anything outside of new gnr.. People piss on weiland for the same reasons they piss on metallica, ozzy, zakk wylde motley crue (vince) kurt cobain, dee snider, josh holmes, etc.. If you say one thing bad about axl everyone needs a tissue and says they suck Oh yeah sure mike. Man you cant stand for anyone to say anything bad bout scott or vr. Fact is contraband IS subpar. You can try and refute that but its a fact. They could have done WAY better then they did. But I forgot anything slash and co does is gold in your eyes ::) Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Wooody on May 07, 2005, 12:49:41 PM Hate scott all you want to. Learn to read. I'm bashing Slash, not scott. Insult me all you want, It won't make contraband sound good. :D Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 07, 2005, 12:53:54 PM Scott cant write good lyrics. He can't sing the gnr songs that they play on tour right. He absolutely murders them. He sucks plain and simple. you talk more shit then anyone I have ever met.. Let me tell you the stp albums blow away anything new gnr has done.. The man has had many hits, so your argument is moot.... Scott can't write but you are the one who was cumming in his pants over a shitty 32 second clip of irs.. Your opinion is bias ,just like your board is.. You'll love the idea richard is playing with some 80's one hit wonder nena, but anything everyone who was once in gnr does sucks.. If slash did that he would be a sell out.. Your opinions are just the same you never see good in one song, anything outside of new gnr.. People piss on weiland for the same reasons they piss on metallica, ozzy, zakk wylde motley crue (vince) kurt cobain, dee snider, josh holmes, etc.. If you say one thing bad about axl everyone needs a tissue and says they suck Oh yeah sure mike. Man you cant stand for anyone to say anything bad bout scott or vr. Fact is contraband IS subpar. You can try and refute that but its a fact. They could have done WAY better then they did. But I forgot anything slash and co does is gold in your eyes? ::) but you never have one good thing to say.. ?I can at least say I like or don't like something.. ?I can see people say something bad about vr, it's just when it's the same people who always say the same things over and over it's like you hate them so why bother.? You don't have to like scott or CB, but you show big time favortism everytime you post in regards to new gnr to anything else the ex members have done.. I don't hear a 32 second teaser from a crap demo and say instant classic or the best thing ever.. That is just crazy talk.. When I heard the Sucketrain Blues trailor I was like good start I'll wait till I hear the entire song.... Just like you love new gnr tunes, I really like CB, but I can say I don't love every song.. I can say some new gnr tunes have potential.... Your the kind of guy that says that curl haired loser.. You are supposed to be a gnr fan, yet you have all bad thing to say about the real members of gnr.. If you were willing to give them a chance you would say well I look forward to their second album.. ?I just don't get your hate, your board uses very revolting instead of velvet revolver, it's just fucking childish, how can one take your opinions as fair when it's just bullshit.. You are the same way as chinese reds, nothing but bashing everything not inolved with axl;'s band.. You can have all trhe opinions you want but don't act like they are ever reasonable or fair in anyway.. I didn't lobe every new gnr song but I look forward to hearing the album.. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 07, 2005, 12:58:33 PM Scott cant write good lyrics. He can't sing the gnr songs that they play on tour right. He absolutely murders them. He sucks plain and simple. you talk more shit then anyone I have ever met.. Let me tell you the stp albums blow away anything new gnr has done.. The man has had many hits, so your argument is moot.... Scott can't write but you are the one who was cumming in his pants over a shitty 32 second clip of irs.. Your opinion is bias ,just like your board is.. You'll love the idea richard is playing with some 80's one hit wonder nena, but anything everyone who was once in gnr does sucks.. If slash did that he would be a sell out.. Your opinions are just the same you never see good in one song, anything outside of new gnr.. People piss on weiland for the same reasons they piss on metallica, ozzy, zakk wylde motley crue (vince) kurt cobain, dee snider, josh holmes, etc.. If you say one thing bad about axl everyone needs a tissue and says they suck Oh yeah sure mike. Man you cant stand for anyone to say anything bad bout scott or vr. Fact is contraband IS subpar. You can try and refute that but its a fact. They could have done WAY better then they did. But I forgot anything slash and co does is gold in your eyes ::) but you never have one good thing to say.. I can at least say I like or don't like something.. I can see people say something bad about vr, it's just when it's the same people who always say the same things over and over it's like you hate them so why bother.? You don't have to like scott or CB, but you show big time favortism everytime you post in regards to new gnr to anything else the ex members have done.. I don't hear a 32 second teaser from a crap demo and say instant classic or the best thing ever.. That is just crazy talk.. When I heard the Sucketrain Blues trailor I was like good start I'll wait till I hear the entire song.... Just like you love new gnr tunes, I really like CB, but I can say I don't love every song.. I can say some new gnr tunes have potential.... Your the kind of guy that says that curl haired loser.. You are supposed to be a gnr fan, yet you have all bad thing to say about the real members of gnr.. If you were willing to give them a chance you would say well I look forward to their second album.. I just don't get your hate, your board uses very revolting instead of velvet revolver, it's just fucking childish, how can one take your opinions as fair when it's just bullshit.. You are the same way as chinese reds, nothing but bashing everything not inolved with axl;'s band.. You can have all trhe opinions you want but don't act like they are ever reasonable or fair in anyway.. I didn't lobe every new gnr song but I look forward to hearing the album.. that really shows how stupid you really are, because that is me. And so what we dont want vr on our board? There wouldnt need to be a word censor if people would stop posting about them over there. Why should i look forward to their second album when I dint like the first? hmm That seems stupid. Yeah Im really gonna like the second one lol. Its pretty much going to be the same as contraband with weak lyrics and subpar music and solos. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 07, 2005, 01:04:07 PM i said you are chinese reds moron.. Did I have to spell out you are the same as CR at the other board for you to understand that.. Did I just guess you would kno who he was.. Damn you are dumb You said the band has potential you said they have more talent then what they put out so by saying that would show you migh think thier sophmore effort would be better.. I know you never even bothered anyways, you're that type of guy..
Only babies block words ,they want a board that is their own fantasy land yet they come over to the vr sections on other's boards and disresept the section :hihi: They want resepctr for their boards yet the talk shit on other boards.. You want positive talk about new gnr on your board but you don't mind shitting on others in their vr section,.. Such a hypocrit... Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 07, 2005, 01:09:55 PM i said you are chinese reds moron.. Did I have to spell out you are the same as CR at the other board for you to understand that.. Did I just guess you would kno who he was.. Damn you are dumb You said the band has potential you said they have more talent then what they put out so by saying that would show you migh think thier sophmore effort would be better.. I know you never even bothered anyways, you're that type of guy.. Only babies block words ,they want a board that is their own fantasy land yet they come over to the vr sections on other's boards and disresept the section :hihi: They want resepctr for their boards yet the talk shit on other boards.. You want positive talk about new gnr on your board but you don't mind shitting on others in their vr section,.. Such a hypocrit... why dont you just go back to your little board called the vr strip. Maybe if you beg a little more spike will let you be a mod : ok: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 07, 2005, 01:12:42 PM i said you are chinese reds moron.. Did I have to spell out you are the same as CR at the other board for you to understand that.. Did I just guess you would kno who he was.. Damn you are dumb? You said the band has potential you said they have more talent then what they put out so by saying that would show you migh think thier sophmore effort would be better.. I know you never even bothered anyways, you're that type of guy.. Only babies block words ,they want a board that is their own fantasy land yet they come over to the vr sections on other's boards and disresept the section :hihi: They want resepctr for their boards yet the talk shit on other boards..? You want positive talk about new gnr on your board but you don't mind shitting on others in their vr section,.. Such a hypocrit... why dont you just go back to your little board called the vr strip. Maybe if you beg a little more spike will let you be a mod? : ok: go back to fantasy land, oh I mean the thenewguns :rofl: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 07, 2005, 01:15:11 PM i said you are chinese reds moron.. Did I have to spell out you are the same as CR at the other board for you to understand that.. Did I just guess you would kno who he was.. Damn you are dumb You said the band has potential you said they have more talent then what they put out so by saying that would show you migh think thier sophmore effort would be better.. I know you never even bothered anyways, you're that type of guy.. Only babies block words ,they want a board that is their own fantasy land yet they come over to the vr sections on other's boards and disresept the section :hihi: They want resepctr for their boards yet the talk shit on other boards.. You want positive talk about new gnr on your board but you don't mind shitting on others in their vr section,.. Such a hypocrit... why dont you just go back to your little board called the vr strip. Maybe if you beg a little more spike will let you be a mod : ok: go back to fantasy land, oh I mean the thenewguns :rofl: mike let me ask you a question now. why do you even read the board if you hate it so much? (now i know your going to say why do you read the vrsection then blah blah blah. so ill say that now. Someone asked why people dont like scott so i answered. you on the other had will read an entire board dedicated to something you hate. and yes you do hate the new abnd. why is that?) Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Evolution on May 07, 2005, 01:41:41 PM Jeezo folks. Why can't VR and GNR fans just get along. You both are fans of Slash,Duff and Matt? Just calm down :no:
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 07, 2005, 02:18:16 PM Jeezo folks. Why can't VR and GNR fans just get along. You both are fans of Slash,Duff and Matt? Just calm down :no: I am a fan of gnr dude... Trust me though not everyone is a fan of those guys you mentioned above.. I am though.. :beer: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 07, 2005, 02:27:06 PM i said you are chinese reds moron.. Did I have to spell out you are the same as CR at the other board for you to understand that.. Did I just guess you would kno who he was.. Damn you are dumb? You said the band has potential you said they have more talent then what they put out so by saying that would show you migh think thier sophmore effort would be better.. I know you never even bothered anyways, you're that type of guy.. Only babies block words ,they want a board that is their own fantasy land yet they come over to the vr sections on other's boards and disresept the section :hihi: They want resepctr for their boards yet the talk shit on other boards..? You want positive talk about new gnr on your board but you don't mind shitting on others in their vr section,.. Such a hypocrit... why dont you just go back to your little board called the vr strip. Maybe if you beg a little more spike will let you be a mod? : ok: go back to fantasy land, oh I mean the thenewguns :rofl: mike let me ask you a question now. why do you even read the board if you hate it so much? (now i know your going to say why do you read the vrsection then blah blah blah. so ill say that now. Someone asked why people dont like scott so i answered. you on the other had will read an entire board dedicated to something you hate. and yes you do hate the new abnd. why is that?) Honestly I read a lot of boards.. I do it because I am shocked to see people that call themselves gnr fans so anti gnr.. I am not able to understand how one could like the hired guys better then the actual band gnr that gave all those amazing songs to us.. You hate vr, I don't hate new gnr, I hate the idea the name is used when only one original member is from gnr.. I don't like the idea of a band being called gnr when it's not.. I know you are younger then me and didn't ge to see gnr in their hey day, but most people that have would never just call this gnr when it has not one member but axl.. If I didn't care I wouldn't have seen them live at msg andf spent good money for a close floor seat.. I tell you I am not crazy abouthe boots but look forward to hearing what else they have as in the album, but you clearly just hate vr and the members that are not in gnr anymore.. If you weren;'t you would be open minded for the second album... I also can not get myself in a tizzy over a three week tour that happened two+ years ago.. Tommy has been with axl since 1998 and there's still no album, so there is no material to enjoy.. I also see the double standard how you'll say great for richard for playing with nena, or hookers n blow and tommy doing his second solo album.. Well I want to hear axl sing, I don't care about projects from guys I don't know.. Then if anyone from the old band does something with others it's garbage or selling out, but when your guys do it, it's wonderful... Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: chineseblues on May 07, 2005, 02:38:34 PM i said you are chinese reds moron.. Did I have to spell out you are the same as CR at the other board for you to understand that.. Did I just guess you would kno who he was.. Damn you are dumb You said the band has potential you said they have more talent then what they put out so by saying that would show you migh think thier sophmore effort would be better.. I know you never even bothered anyways, you're that type of guy.. Only babies block words ,they want a board that is their own fantasy land yet they come over to the vr sections on other's boards and disresept the section :hihi: They want resepctr for their boards yet the talk shit on other boards.. You want positive talk about new gnr on your board but you don't mind shitting on others in their vr section,.. Such a hypocrit... why dont you just go back to your little board called the vr strip. Maybe if you beg a little more spike will let you be a mod : ok: go back to fantasy land, oh I mean the thenewguns :rofl: mike let me ask you a question now. why do you even read the board if you hate it so much? (now i know your going to say why do you read the vrsection then blah blah blah. so ill say that now. Someone asked why people dont like scott so i answered. you on the other had will read an entire board dedicated to something you hate. and yes you do hate the new abnd. why is that?) Honestly I read a lot of boards.. I do it because I am shocked to see people that call themselves gnr fans so anti gnr.. I am not able to understand how one could like the hired guys better then the actual band gnr that gave all those amazing songs to us.. You hate vr, I don't hate new gnr, I hate the idea the name is used when only one original member is from gnr.. I don't like the idea of a band being called gnr when it's not.. I know you are younger then me and didn't ge to see gnr in their hey day, but most people that have would never just call this gnr when it has not one member but axl.. If I didn't care I wouldn't have seen them live at msg andf spent good money for a close floor seat.. I tell you I am not crazy abouthe boots but look forward to hearing what else they have as in the album, but you clearly just hate vr and the members that are not in gnr anymore.. If you weren;'t you would be open minded for the second album... I also can not get myself in a tizzy over a three week tour that happened two+ years ago.. Tommy has been with axl since 1998 and there's still no album, so there is no material to enjoy.. I also see the double standard how you'll say great for richard for playing with nena, or hookers n blow and tommy doing his second solo album.. Well I want to hear axl sing, I don't care about projects from guys I don't know.. Then if anyone from the old band does something with others it's garbage or selling out, but when your guys do it, it's wonderful... Find me an example of where i said it was selling out? i "might" have said it in a thread where someone else said richard sold out for playing with nena, but only to show some peoples double standard towards the new guys. I honestly don't know how some people can be loyal to people who walked out on what they claim to eb their favorite band. Its realy weird. Slash and co quit the band and they are gods. Axl keeps the gnr name alive and hes anasshole for it. ??? Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 07, 2005, 02:45:46 PM bands break up, it's a realistic thing.. Gnr was always a band fuled on drugs and egos.. I always felt it would happen, it got to big. I have never worked with axl, but they didn't get along, everyone left axl so there had to be a reason.. Even izzy who started with axl, his childhood friend.. As for axl keeping the name alive I would have rather he didn't and started a new group until one day the band reformed.. A band isn't a constant revolving lineup, that's more like a team.
No one knows for sure what happened but I don't hate anyone.. If it was creative differences then what can you do.. Not for nothing just because axl didn't walk out doesn't mean they left him behind.. You can believe whatever you want but the guys didn't just sign the name over for the hell of it.. Axl can't get one album out, he has been through 4-5 producers tons of sessions players and 13 million plus this thing started in 97 when moby came in so maybe it's a little more axl, everyone else has moved on and played.. Even as we speak all of new gnr need solo careers because axl can't get it going.. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 07, 2005, 05:54:54 PM Hate scott all you want to. Learn to read. I'm bashing Slash, not scott. Insult me all you want, It won't make contraband sound good.? :D While I agree Contraband has it low points, it also has its highs. But as I said before, you pro Axl losers can go cry me a river. Boo hoo, Chinese Democracy is never comming out. And Axl lost his voice...He can blame a hearing device problem all he wants to. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 07, 2005, 06:02:05 PM i said you are chinese reds moron.. Did I have to spell out you are the same as CR at the other board for you to understand that.. Did I just guess you would kno who he was.. Damn you are dumb? You said the band has potential you said they have more talent then what they put out so by saying that would show you migh think thier sophmore effort would be better.. I know you never even bothered anyways, you're that type of guy.. Only babies block words ,they want a board that is their own fantasy land yet they come over to the vr sections on other's boards and disresept the section :hihi: They want resepctr for their boards yet the talk shit on other boards..? You want positive talk about new gnr on your board but you don't mind shitting on others in their vr section,.. Such a hypocrit... why dont you just go back to your little board called the vr strip. Maybe if you beg a little more spike will let you be a mod? : ok: go back to fantasy land, oh I mean the thenewguns :rofl: mike let me ask you a question now. why do you even read the board if you hate it so much? (now i know your going to say why do you read the vrsection then blah blah blah. so ill say that now. Someone asked why people dont like scott so i answered. you on the other had will read an entire board dedicated to something you hate. and yes you do hate the new abnd. why is that?) Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 07, 2005, 06:04:35 PM bands break up, it's a realistic thing.. Gnr was always a band fuled on drugs and egos.. I always felt it would happen, it got to big. I have never worked with axl, but they didn't get along, everyone left axl so there had to be a reason.. Even izzy who started with axl, his childhood friend.. As for axl keeping the name alive I would have rather he didn't and started a new group until one day the band reformed.. A band isn't a constant revolving lineup, that's more like a team. You know what the funny thing is? Over at the Zeppelin.com message board, people hte the idea of a Zeppelin reunion b/c Bonzo is gone. It isn't Zeppelin w/o him. And there is no Gn'R w/o Duff, Slash, Izzy and Steven or Matt. And Axl is fucking razy to see otherwise.No one knows for sure what happened but I don't hate anyone.. If it was creative differences then what can you do.. Not for nothing just because axl didn't walk out doesn't mean they left him behind.. You can believe whatever you want but the guys didn't just sign the name over for the hell of it.. Axl can't get one album out, he has been through 4-5 producers tons of sessions players and 13 million plus this thing started in 97 when moby came in so maybe it's a little more axl, everyone else has moved on and played.. Even as we speak all of new gnr need solo careers because axl can't get it going.. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jarmo on May 07, 2005, 06:35:30 PM You rejects don't like Scott because you all are to scared to admit Axl sucks. No, it's because I think Chris Cornell is a way better front man than Scott Weiland. It's called personal opinion. Look it up when you're not busy posting crap like below on this board. And you want to blame someone else.? Axl Rose is a fool, but you Axl lovers are the bigger fools, and you and every diehard Axl fans are a bunch of pussies. Do you know what posts like that makes you? I mean, other than "banned"..... /jarmo Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: D on May 07, 2005, 07:38:33 PM anyone who says Axl has lost his voice obviously have no clue as to what they are saying.
U are referring to the VMAs so obviously u heard the opening scream etc? before he sprinted too much and got winded he was kickin ass and even after that Madagascar was great, so he hasnt lost his voice. I do love Scott Weiland though, I like him way more than Chris Cornell,Eddie Vedder and? a lot of those other guys but I respect Cornell and Vedder's talents. I just like Scott's stage charisma and energy, he is truly a madman on stage, the closest to Axl we will ever get as far as stage presence is concerned. is Electricmage really banned? that guy Goneeeeeeeeeeee, did u hear me mr security man? electricmage gone!!! yeah.....give me that shirt, give me that shirt.......... thank you! :hihi: :hihi: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 07, 2005, 10:14:35 PM anyone who says Axl has lost his voice obviously have no clue as to what they are saying. U are referring to the VMAs so obviously u heard the opening scream etc? before he sprinted too much and got winded he was kickin ass and even after that Madagascar was great, so he hasnt lost his voice. I do love Scott Weiland though, I like him way more than Chris Cornell,Eddie Vedder and? a lot of those other guys but I respect Cornell and Vedder's talents. I just like Scott's stage charisma and energy, he is truly a madman on stage, the closest to Axl we will ever get as far as stage presence is concerned. is Electricmage really banned? that guy Goneeeeeeeeeeee, did u hear me mr security man? electricmage gone!!! yeah.....give me that shirt, give me that shirt.......... thank you! :hihi: :hihi: Na i'm still here. Like a bad zit. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: electricmage on May 07, 2005, 10:22:19 PM You rejects don't like Scott because you all are to scared to admit Axl sucks. No, it's because I think Chris Cornell is a way better front man than Scott Weiland. It's called personal opinion. Look it up when you're not busy posting crap like below on this board. And you want to blame someone else.? Axl Rose is a fool, but you Axl lovers are the bigger fools, and you and every diehard Axl fans are a bunch of pussies. Do you know what posts like that makes you? I mean, other than "banned"..... /jarmo Ok Jarmo, ban me. I really don't care. All of you new Gn'R fanatics have a deranged sense of reality anyways. This is a Gn'R forum. Do you know what that band was about? I'd Figure not be able to call anyone a pussy over at the Britney Spears forum. But not a Gn'R messge board. You want to post on "the most dangerous band" fan website, be my guest. But it's ok for Axl to say what he wants, you guys lick his sweaty balls, but me... I'm not that stupid. Have fun waiting for that album that is never comming out. I wont be spending my money on that fuckwad. I'll be sending my money to Slash and company. At least they have respect for their fans. By the way Jarmo, you are a nazi. and if Axl ever came here and called you morons douche bags. You would still be eating out of his hand like a bunch of dogs. Peace, bitches. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jarmo on May 08, 2005, 07:42:36 AM I'll be sending my money to Slash and company. At least they have respect for their fans. Respect? Now that's a big word for a guy who has no idea what it means. I can't believe the stupidity of some people. "Boohoo, it's a GN'R board I should be able to call other board members what I want. Boohoo. It's not rock n' roll if I can't. Boohoo". By the way Jarmo, you are a nazi. Thanks for taking interested in my political beliefs, but I never was a national socialist. /jarmo Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: deliverthecow on May 08, 2005, 01:32:35 PM Jarmo,
One question, IF you dislike VR as much as some of your posts indirectly state. I have one question ? Why in the hell are you a moderator on a VR board. Kinda find that alittle bit of a conflict of interest for someone who is so against Scott Weiland. ::) Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Smoking Guns on May 08, 2005, 01:49:30 PM Jarmo, we get your point (that you deliver daily), YOU DON'T LIKE SCOTT WEILAND. The reason Jarmo is a moderator on the VR board is because is runs the best GNR forum on the net. His experience makes him a good choice to be a moderator, plus he is knowledgable about the band. He just doesn't like them because he feels that us VR fans (who are also GNR fans) think that VR can do no wrong and we are too tough on Uncle Axl. VR fans feel that Jarmo is too tough on VR and never says anything bad about Axl. Jarmo is also bitter towards Slash because he feels that Slash puts too much blame on Axl and that Slash is the one that left. Slash's comments piss off Jarmo. As far as Jarmo's opinion on signers, Chris Cornell has one of the greatest voices in rock, better then Scotts, but Scott is a MUCH better front man. Period. I don't know how many times Jarmo has had to justify his in direct bashing of VR by saying, "If this were Axl, you guys would have been killing him." Anyway, since Jarmo always has the same angle, I figured I would break it down a little bit more as to why he has this angle. I hope it helps.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: deliverthecow on May 08, 2005, 02:24:23 PM I dont buy into it, to me it is just being a hypocrite.? :yes:
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: D on May 08, 2005, 03:12:17 PM I understand where Jarmo comes from, If Axl does something he gets bashed,criticized and hung out to dry, but if Scott or VR do something similiar its no big deal and they dont get criticized.
Im a huge VR fan and a huge Duff and Slash fan but they get all the sympathy and Axl is looked at as this huge asshole tyrant dictator when in fact, he just wanted to keep movin GNR forward and not rehash the same ole same ole. I think what Axl did was the right thing, I think Slash was lazy and didnt wanna make a great GNR album, he wanted to do what was easy and if Axl hadnt took charge, GNR wouldve made a couple more albums, faded out and we wouldnt be on this board with so much hope and anticipation of a great album in Chinese Democracy. Axl has his faults and has made his share of mistakes but Slash and the rest of the band are just as guilty. When you dont have guts or the balls to stand up to someone, shit happens, Axl didnt make them sign their band name rights away, they couldve called Axl's bluff, they couldve tried to compromise somehow, but they left. Slash thought he was this uber superstar and he left and realized that he wasnt without GNR. I get tired of it always being all axl's fault thought. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jarmo on May 08, 2005, 03:38:06 PM Jarmo, One question, IF you dislike VR as much as some of your posts indirectly state. I have one question ? Why in the hell are you a moderator on a VR board. Kinda find that alittle bit of a conflict of interest for someone who is so against Scott Weiland.? ::) Yeah, I really dislike them don't I? Seen them live five times by now. I really must hate them..... I'm not a moderator on a VR board, I'm an administrator on a GN'R board where we happen to have a VR section. Jarmo, we get your point (that you deliver daily), YOU DON'T LIKE SCOTT WEILAND. I don't have anything against him. He's not in my top 10 frontmen list. That's all. Jarmo is also bitter towards Slash because he feels that Slash puts too much blame on Axl and that Slash is the one that left. Slash's comments piss off Jarmo. Bitter? No. He left GN'R, that was his decision. It's in the past. Slash can say whatever he wants. His comments doesn't piss me off. I don't take them that seriously. /jarmo Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: deliverthecow on May 08, 2005, 03:58:49 PM Yes i know you are the administrator on this board. I was just stating that you are a mod on the VR forum, not this one.
I guess i have taken some of your comments "the wrong way" my bad. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jarmo on May 08, 2005, 04:07:21 PM I was just stating that you are a mod on the VR forum, not this one. No I'm not. I used to be an administrator at a VR forum that I helped create. /jarmo Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Smoking Guns on May 08, 2005, 04:56:05 PM Jarmo, was I right about anything I said over here? I do remeber you being a global moderator on the VR boards. I guess you are not anymore.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jameslofton29 on May 08, 2005, 06:19:55 PM Anyone think there'll be an STP reunion before a CD release?
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: AxlStaleyWeiland on May 08, 2005, 11:24:13 PM Anyone think there'll be an STP reunion before a CD release? I do, I also believe there will be a LedZep reunion, all 4 membersTitle: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Intercourse on May 09, 2005, 11:53:17 AM Axl gets a lot of shit because all the ex-members of the band blame him for the break up and they were in the band.
The rest of us here are just running our mouths off using bullshit, half truths, self-formed opinions and journalistic fodder to attack each other. The truth is out there somewhere but with Slash, Duff, Izzy, Steven, Matt and Gilby on one side and Axl and Dizzy on the other, its easy to see why Axl gets the lions share of the blame. I personally think both new GNR and VR are flawed reflections of a once perfect unit. Maybe that unit was so perfect because it only burned so brightly for 6 years and died away, who the fuck knows?We all just have to live with it and move on. Kudos to Scott for beating the drugs, getting his family back, defying the critics and giving fans killer shows. Regardless of your like or dislike of him, he has honored his part of the deal, I wish Axl would do the same. peace, Intercourse. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Jamie on May 09, 2005, 01:13:17 PM Weiland is a great front man, a great singer and also a great song writer. People constantly say he is trying to be Axl, HE IS NOT! Scott wore leather and his police hat and did the Axl-like stage moves when he was in STP. He didnt just start doing them when he became a member of VR, if so Slash, Matt, and Duff wouldn't have hired him, because he'd just be an Axl wannabe. He is a real and genuine musician and does not deserve the treatment he gets from the GnR fan base.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: AxlStaleyWeiland on May 09, 2005, 08:44:12 PM Scott wore leather and his police hat and did the Axl-like stage moves when he was in STP. He didnt just start doing them when he became a member of VR, if so Slash, Matt, and Duff wouldn't have hired him, because he'd just be an Axl wannabe. He is a real and genuine musician and does not deserve the treatment he gets from the GnR fan base. waw waw easy tiger, easy!? "does-not-deserve-the-treatment-he-gets-from-the-grn-fan-base... "? yes. we are gonna talk about treatment of the fan base. i havent posted personally what i believe about scott weiland in the official VR forum simply coz i think that it would be rude. what i believe is that he looks onstage like a spanish-failured-dragqueen-wannabe-dancer, i mean ok , u are trying to quit drugs, but hold it down boy!!!!other ppl wanted to gain attention onstage but didnt act the same!!! jesus christ, what is he taking , i wanna have that too!!!!!!! LOL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am not getting pissed off a lot with Weiland and any Weiland slash and co would have chosen to have, i am getting pissed off with duff comments for example , nowdays , in 2005 , who can finish? his sentences off when he says that , *the way duff speaks? " u know, ACTually we didnt.... have SeBAstian Bach coz we thought that uhhhh we would sound *voice gets deeper * pretty much like ....* then a bit faster * .. Skid Row " i mean what the fuck is he trying to sell? anyway fuck that i ll stay on topic. the dude here has got a really cool post The rest of us here are just running our mouths off using? bullshit, half truths, self-formed opinions and journalistic fodder to attack each other.? The truth is out there somewhere but with Slash, Duff, Izzy, Steven, Matt and Gilby on one side and Axl and Dizzy on the other, its easy to see why Axl gets the lions share of the blame. why am i pissed off with weiland? glasgow gig the first time they played there, i was in the first row , i was trying, killing my self while trying , but fuck i was trying to get used to him the way he is onstage, i didnt booed him , that just sux, i wasnt smiling , i couldnt , but anyway , i was trying to have my ears and eyes opened and give him a fuckin chance. they were playin i used to love her , the sound wasnt extremely loud, and i was fuckin singing as much louder as i could.... a buddy of mine had a leather jacket on the rails and the gnr logo could be seen at the back, he also had a huge gnr tattoo on his arm , the appetite cover with the cross....he was looking at us like we were the last piece of shit on this fuckin earth..? well , we were singing , me , weiland and the crowd? "i used to love her" ...and i was singing "ooooh yeah "? and then all of us sayin again "but i had to kill 'er " and then i was singing in higher tone "oooh yeah " , but THIS is the version axl did and Mister Weiland didnt seem pretty happy about it. ok sad motherfucker , this is the fuckin version i have been singing since i can fuckin remember myself, how the fuck do u want me to feel for this artist? he throw a megaphone into a gunner fan. if it was me , i would have cut his fuckin throat off with my fuckin teeth, at least before the security throw me away.? i have been in many concerts in my life, i do understand that its diffucult for an artist to be always in that happy mood and shit , but if u would be there and experienced what i had, maybe u could understand that it isnt the brightest thing to do for ppl who are trying to give u? a fuckin chance. i know that weiland doesnt need me , personally as a fan , but that specific nite, it was ....something different between me and him. i was sooooo fuckin pleased thou that the other time i saw them, cannot remember if it was england , scotland or portugal ,? he was singing the "oooh yeah " part . well , he didnt have many different options , most of us were singing it label me however the fuck u like , as i give a flying fuck , my intranet-dave buddies.? Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: W. Botaxl Rose on May 09, 2005, 09:09:07 PM HAHA!!!Estranged has a crush on faggy Axl! HAHA!!!
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: tomass74 on May 09, 2005, 09:48:52 PM Scott wore leather and his police hat and did the Axl-like stage moves when he was in STP. He didnt just start doing them when he became a member of VR, if so Slash, Matt, and Duff wouldn't have hired him, because he'd just be an Axl wannabe. He is a real and genuine musician and does not deserve the treatment he gets from the GnR fan base. waw waw easy tiger, easy!? "does-not-deserve-the-treatment-he-gets-from-the-grn-fan-base... "? yes. we are gonna talk about treatment of the fan base. i havent posted personally what i believe about scott weiland in the official VR forum simply coz i think that it would be rude. what i believe is that he looks onstage like a spanish-failured-dragqueen-wannabe-dancer, i mean ok , u are trying to quit drugs, but hold it down boy!!!!other ppl wanted to gain attention onstage but didnt act the same!!! jesus christ, what is he taking , i wanna have that too!!!!!!! LOL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am not getting pissed off a lot with Weiland and any Weiland slash and co would have chosen to have, i am getting pissed off with duff comments for example , nowdays , in 2005 , who can finish? his sentences off when he says that , *the way duff speaks? " u know, ACTually we didnt.... have SeBAstian Bach coz we thought that uhhhh we would sound *voice gets deeper * pretty much like ....* then a bit faster * .. Skid Row " i mean what the fuck is he trying to sell? anyway fuck that i ll stay on topic. the dude here has got a really cool post The rest of us here are just running our mouths off using? bullshit, half truths, self-formed opinions and journalistic fodder to attack each other.? The truth is out there somewhere but with Slash, Duff, Izzy, Steven, Matt and Gilby on one side and Axl and Dizzy on the other, its easy to see why Axl gets the lions share of the blame. why am i pissed off with weiland? glasgow gig the first time they played there, i was in the first row , i was trying, killing my self while trying , but fuck i was trying to get used to him the way he is onstage, i didnt booed him , that just sux, i wasnt smiling , i couldnt , but anyway , i was trying to have my ears and eyes opened and give him a fuckin chance. they were playin i used to love her , the sound wasnt extremely loud, and i was fuckin singing as much louder as i could.... a buddy of mine had a leather jacket on the rails and the gnr logo could be seen at the back, he also had a huge gnr tattoo on his arm , the appetite cover with the cross....he was looking at us like we were the last piece of shit on this fuckin earth..? well , we were singing , me , weiland and the crowd? "i used to love her" ...and i was singing "ooooh yeah "? and then all of us sayin again "but i had to kill 'er " and then i was singing in higher tone "oooh yeah " , but THIS is the version axl did and Mister Weiland didnt seem pretty happy about it. ok sad motherfucker , this is the fuckin version i have been singing since i can fuckin remember myself, how the fuck do u want me to feel for this artist? he throw a megaphone into a gunner fan. if it was me , i would have cut his fuckin throat off with my fuckin teeth, at least before the security throw me away.? i have been in many concerts in my life, i do understand that its diffucult for an artist to be always in that happy mood and shit , but if u would be there and experienced what i had, maybe u could understand that it isnt the brightest thing to do for ppl who are trying to give u? a fuckin chance. i know that weiland doesnt need me , personally as a fan , but that specific nite, it was ....something different between me and him. i was sooooo fuckin pleased thou that the other time i saw them, cannot remember if it was england , scotland or portugal ,? he was singing the "oooh yeah " part . well , he didnt have many different options , most of us were singing it label me however the fuck u like , as i give a flying fuck , my intranet-dave buddies.? You have issues... Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: tomass74 on May 09, 2005, 09:54:10 PM give me a break, you wanna talk about stage appearance, how 'bout Axl's homo erotic attire he wore for most of UYI tour, incl DVDs.? That shit was fucking absurd, soooooo? gay! I was embarrased to show my friends the UYI vids b/c they all saw Axls shorts and started making fag jokes and shit, and how could I blame them? Even the other bands Metallica and Faith No more were making fun of his buttfucker shorts That is soooo true. I used to play the UYI's vids alot when they came out and and whenever anyone saw them they would make fun whatever queer outfit Axl decided to be wearing for whatever song they playing. Those DVDs could have been so much better but you really cannot watch them with a staight face when you see Axl in the spandex shorts and a leather jacket and so on..... I have lots of bootled DVD's that I don't even bother trying to put on at parties anymore because it always just ends up with people making fun of Axl. I can however get away with playing some of the early stuff from teh Appetite tour. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: D on May 10, 2005, 04:45:54 AM I cant see how u can talk shit about Scott.
Lets see, u all were rubbing another band in his face? yeah I think id get pretty pissed as well. GNR are through, get over it it isnt Scott Weiland standing in the way of a reunion u should thank Scott, because without Scott singing VR wouldnt be touring and u wouldnt get to see Slash and Duff on a big stage cause any other frontman and they wouldve been a fuckin nothing band. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 10, 2005, 06:44:10 AM If you are a gnr fan and call scott gay then you never looked at the lead singer of gnr bakc in the day... Scott and axl are flamboyant... Scott really dresses that 80's rock typre clothing wise, tight short leather and shit like that.. He's a free spirit ball of energy onstage..
I don't sit around saying wearing a fur coat with bicycle shorts is gay... Axl does what he feels so stop attacking scott for doing what he wants.. We know nothing was more manly then axl with his extended cigarette holder, mostly actresses from the turn of the century til the 50's used them.. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: St.heathen on May 10, 2005, 11:42:06 AM I feel sorry for those who worry about showing their friends something they like just because of the way someone is dressed? I really don't get it i have never felt that. We are in the 21st century now and this is rock n roll.
It can be androgenous and it can be outrageous. It comes in all guises from Weiland, Axl, Bowie, Prince, Marilyn Manson. They stand out because they do things on their terms, not afraid to look and sound different. It's meant to upset people and ruffle a few feathers. Get some back bone, fuck everyone else's opinion. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 10, 2005, 01:29:09 PM I have 'get over' it already.the day i have heard that slash was out.? ?Reunion? Not that i wouldnt like something like this, but they had become a bunch of fuckin clowns, just before.? :no: Does everything about you have to be not liking vr..? I see your new sign quote.. Sound like an inmature baby Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 10, 2005, 02:36:58 PM well, i am in a gnr forum ... did u see me lately in the vr forum posting shit? no. working out ursell oh and btw, inmature babies do not know what a dragqueen is but i guess that they ll find out as many young fans are in the vr gigs...? ;D I still don't get how one can call scott a fag, or drag queen when axl wore and acted very gay when he was onstage.. So people that are inmature can't know what a drag queen is :hihi: So you are on a gnr forum, does that mean you should just go to the vr section and talk shit about them all day..? We know you are so disappointed by slash and vr's album superhuman's riff and scott's look and apperance,his dancing and whatever else.. I myself am letdown that axl can'tr release an album in 6 years and sucked in the qualities of a jamcian rapper on his last three week tour.. I really don't care about what either wears it's just this back and forth shit with you gets old fast.. Scott and vvr have toured the world in 04-05 what has axl done latley..? Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 10, 2005, 02:58:18 PM y u have to talk about axl while the main subject is sposed to be vr and specially weiland on this topic? Stop acting all innocent, first it's the superhuman riff, then slash let me down ,then the trying to be bad ass rockstar's topic.... Please.. :Di am trying to make a conversation with u, stay on the fuckin topic. and dont get misleaded by my posts or topics. i said that i dont like the superhuman riff. i have seen this band 4 times live, one of them was in portugal while i live in england... get a point or drop it and dont get the topics being drawn down into to a river of misery. axl is not the center of the universe, or .... hm.... u ll prove if i am wrong or right. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Jamie on May 11, 2005, 09:08:56 AM Scott wore leather and his police hat and did the Axl-like stage moves when he was in STP. He didnt just start doing them when he became a member of VR, if so Slash, Matt, and Duff wouldn't have hired him, because he'd just be an Axl wannabe. He is a real and genuine musician and does not deserve the treatment he gets from the GnR fan base. waw waw easy tiger, easy!? "does-not-deserve-the-treatment-he-gets-from-the-grn-fan-base... "? yes. we are gonna talk about treatment of the fan base. i havent posted personally what i believe about scott weiland in the official VR forum simply coz i think that it would be rude. what i believe is that he looks onstage like a spanish-failured-dragqueen-wannabe-dancer, i mean ok , u are trying to quit drugs, but hold it down boy!!!!other ppl wanted to gain attention onstage but didnt act the same!!! jesus christ, what is he taking , i wanna have that too!!!!!!! LOL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am not getting pissed off a lot with Weiland and any Weiland slash and co would have chosen to have, i am getting pissed off with duff comments for example , nowdays , in 2005 , who can finish? his sentences off when he says that , *the way duff speaks? " u know, ACTually we didnt.... have SeBAstian Bach coz we thought that uhhhh we would sound *voice gets deeper * pretty much like ....* then a bit faster * .. Skid Row " i mean what the fuck is he trying to sell? anyway fuck that i ll stay on topic. the dude here has got a really cool post The rest of us here are just running our mouths off using? bullshit, half truths, self-formed opinions and journalistic fodder to attack each other.? The truth is out there somewhere but with Slash, Duff, Izzy, Steven, Matt and Gilby on one side and Axl and Dizzy on the other, its easy to see why Axl gets the lions share of the blame. why am i pissed off with weiland? glasgow gig the first time they played there, i was in the first row , i was trying, killing my self while trying , but fuck i was trying to get used to him the way he is onstage, i didnt booed him , that just sux, i wasnt smiling , i couldnt , but anyway , i was trying to have my ears and eyes opened and give him a fuckin chance. they were playin i used to love her , the sound wasnt extremely loud, and i was fuckin singing as much louder as i could.... a buddy of mine had a leather jacket on the rails and the gnr logo could be seen at the back, he also had a huge gnr tattoo on his arm , the appetite cover with the cross....he was looking at us like we were the last piece of shit on this fuckin earth..? well , we were singing , me , weiland and the crowd? "i used to love her" ...and i was singing "ooooh yeah "? and then all of us sayin again "but i had to kill 'er " and then i was singing in higher tone "oooh yeah " , but THIS is the version axl did and Mister Weiland didnt seem pretty happy about it. ok sad motherfucker , this is the fuckin version i have been singing since i can fuckin remember myself, how the fuck do u want me to feel for this artist? he throw a megaphone into a gunner fan. if it was me , i would have cut his fuckin throat off with my fuckin teeth, at least before the security throw me away.? i have been in many concerts in my life, i do understand that its diffucult for an artist to be always in that happy mood and shit , but if u would be there and experienced what i had, maybe u could understand that it isnt the brightest thing to do for ppl who are trying to give u? a fuckin chance. i know that weiland doesnt need me , personally as a fan , but that specific nite, it was ....something different between me and him. i was sooooo fuckin pleased thou that the other time i saw them, cannot remember if it was england , scotland or portugal ,? he was singing the "oooh yeah " part . well , he didnt have many different options , most of us were singing it label me however the fuck u like , as i give a flying fuck , my intranet-dave buddies.? What has that got to do with anything? It really doesn't bother me how he sings one line of a GnR song, what I find more noteable is that he has the courage to go out and sing GnR songs when there are so many GnR fans constantly bashing him because he is not Axl. Scott is a great frontman, and is worthy of respect, no matter what his opinions are of Axl. If Axl was in his shoes and was getting people always comparing him to someone else he'd have simular reactions. Scott would not mistreat the GnR fanbase, if they did not mistreat him. I don't think he has any problems with the GnR fans in general, just the ones who feel the need to constantly shove in his face that they prefer Axl to him, and he is not Axl etc. He may not be Axl, or as good as Axl even, but he is still a very talented individual who deserves respect. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 11, 2005, 09:13:18 AM Quote What has that got to do with anything? It really doesn't bother me how he sings one line of a GnR song, what I find more noteable is that he has the courage to go out and sing GnR songs when there are so many GnR fans constantly bashing him because he is not Axl. Scott is a great frontman, and is worthy of respect, no matter what his opinions are of Axl. If Axl was in his shoes and was getting people always comparing him to someone else he'd have simular reactions. Scott would not mistreat the GnR fanbase, if they did not mistreat him. I don't think he has any problems with the GnR fans in general, just the ones who feel the need to constantly shove in his face that they prefer Axl to him, and he is not Axl etc. He may not be Axl, or as good as Axl even, but he is still a very talented individual who deserves respect. cheers dude very well said.. :beer: Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mike_giuliana on May 11, 2005, 12:40:08 PM Quote What has that got to do with anything? It really doesn't bother me how he sings one line of a GnR song, what I find more noteable is that he has the courage to go out and sing GnR songs when there are so many GnR fans constantly bashing him because he is not Axl. Scott is a great frontman, and is worthy of respect, no matter what his opinions are of Axl. If Axl was in his shoes and was getting people always comparing him to someone else he'd have simular reactions. Scott would not mistreat the GnR fanbase, if they did not mistreat him. I don't think he has any problems with the GnR fans in general, just the ones who feel the need to constantly shove in his face that they prefer Axl to him, and he is not Axl etc. He may not be Axl, or as good as Axl even, but he is still a very talented individual who deserves respect. i did respect him , after the mascarade, dressed-up like axl , and slash as buckethead...? :no: but it was halloween, don't take things so serious.. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Jamie on May 11, 2005, 01:08:29 PM This is just stupid, how can you dislike Slash because of his issues with Axl, those are their personal differences and are really none of your business. I like Axl as much as the next guy but I'm not gonna go around hatin Slash because he doesnt see eye-to-eye with Axl, the same goes for I'm not gonna hate members of nu-GnR because their not Slash and co. People who act like what goes on between the original members of GnR is anything to do with them are just refusing to be open-minded. And they're the people who refuse to like VR because Scott is not Axl Rose. And that is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Jamie on May 11, 2005, 01:43:50 PM If ur eyes wanna praise the inteligent idea slash agreed to do, then its ur ridiculous joke and not mine. Quote And they're the people who refuse to like VR because Scott is not Axl Rose. invalid. Who said anything about "praising" what he said? It was a joke. Just a laugh. I don't think Slash decided, 'oh let's show that ass-hole Axl by dressing up as him at a Halloween concert, that'll teach em'. Oh and about callin my point invalid, you never backed it up, so I don't see how it's invalid. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on May 11, 2005, 05:55:13 PM Quote i love his music! but i dont respect him anymore. That is exactly how I feel about Axl.. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Jamie on May 12, 2005, 10:57:50 AM it is invalid to me , it cannot be even processed? :D , as if they had axl it would be gnr!!! y are u sayin that VR need to have axl on vocals to be liked my ppl , or simply by me? u are taking ur point of view as the whole viewing field! what is that? valid? No, I'm not saying Axl singing in VR would make you like them. What I'm saying is people can't seem to except Scott because he is singing with Slash and Duff and Axl is not. People who turn up to VR concerts with Axl Rose banners and stupid shit like that just to shove in his face that they prefer Axl. I prefer Axl too but don't automatically hate Scott because he is singing with Slash and Duff now. What is valid about my point is that people love to see Axl moving on without the other original members, but can't seem to stand the other original members moving on without him. Axl Rose is my idol and all time favourite vocalist but is not the only person in the music world. Scott is a great frontman and VR are a great band. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: D on May 12, 2005, 02:37:58 PM it is invalid to me , it cannot be even processed? :D , as if they had axl it would be gnr!!! y are u sayin that VR need to have axl on vocals to be liked my ppl , or simply by me? u are taking ur point of view as the whole viewing field! what is that? valid? No, I'm not saying Axl singing in VR would make you like them. What I'm saying is people can't seem to except Scott because he is singing with Slash and Duff and Axl is not. People who turn up to VR concerts with Axl Rose banners and stupid shit like that just to shove in his face that they prefer Axl. I prefer Axl too but don't automatically hate Scott because he is singing with Slash and Duff now. What is valid about my point is that people love to see Axl moving on without the other original members, but can't seem to stand the other original members moving on without him. Axl Rose is my idol and all time favourite vocalist but is not the only person in the music world. Scott is a great frontman and VR are a great band. that bout sums it up perfectly, I agree 100 percent. I dont understand why anyone would bring an Axl Rose banner or yell anything about Axl at a VR concert. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on May 13, 2005, 04:45:55 PM it is invalid to me , it cannot be even processed? :D , as if they had axl it would be gnr!!! y are u sayin that VR need to have axl on vocals to be liked my ppl , or simply by me? u are taking ur point of view as the whole viewing field! what is that? valid? No, I'm not saying Axl singing in VR would make you like them. What I'm saying is people can't seem to except Scott because he is singing with Slash and Duff and Axl is not. People who turn up to VR concerts with Axl Rose banners and stupid shit like that just to shove in his face that they prefer Axl. I prefer Axl too but don't automatically hate Scott because he is singing with Slash and Duff now. What is valid about my point is that people love to see Axl moving on without the other original members, but can't seem to stand the other original members moving on without him. Axl Rose is my idol and all time favourite vocalist but is not the only person in the music world. Scott is a great frontman and VR are a great band. that bout sums it up perfectly, I agree 100 percent. I dont understand why anyone would bring an Axl Rose banner or yell anything about Axl at a VR concert. because people get hammered at concerts and start acting like assholes. the people with the banners an such i don't know, they're just fucking idiots. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: Wooody on May 14, 2005, 06:22:16 AM it is invalid to me , it cannot be even processed? :D , as if they had axl it would be gnr!!! y are u sayin that VR need to have axl on vocals to be liked my ppl , or simply by me? u are taking ur point of view as the whole viewing field! what is that? valid? No, I'm not saying Axl singing in VR would make you like them. What I'm saying is people can't seem to except Scott because he is singing with Slash and Duff and Axl is not. People who turn up to VR concerts with Axl Rose banners and stupid shit like that just to shove in his face that they prefer Axl. I prefer Axl too but don't automatically hate Scott because he is singing with Slash and Duff now. What is valid about my point is that people love to see Axl moving on without the other original members, but can't seem to stand the other original members moving on without him. Axl Rose is my idol and all time favourite vocalist but is not the only person in the music world. Scott is a great frontman and VR are a great band. It goes both ways, already forgot rock in rio 3 ? there was a guy dressed like slash wearing a slash t-shirt on top of somebody else just to piss axl. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: D on May 14, 2005, 06:34:11 AM the fact Axl uses the GNR name though makes it a little more understandable at GNR shows
but VR have nothing to do with Axl, no one should ever confuse VR with GNR. Id bet there are hundreds of thousands of people who dont even know there is a new band. RIR 3, those people probably expected Slash to be there, Im not sure how mainstream that news got. Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mikegiuliana on May 14, 2005, 06:36:43 AM the fact Axl uses the GNR name though makes it a little more understandable at GNR shows That's exatly it man.. I myself was listening to oh my god in 99 and couldn't tell you who was in the band..but VR have nothing to do with Axl, no one should ever confuse VR with GNR. Id bet there are hundreds of thousands of people who dont even know there is a new band. RIR 3, those people probably expected Slash to be there, Im not sure how mainstream that news got. When a band is not you favorite and they have been gone for many years and you hear gnr is playing a gig you expect the band to be the people who you use to listen to.. If metallica is dormant for several years then tours I expect to see james, lars and kirk.. If metallica did that everyone would be screaming bloody murder.. Now if you go to a vr concert looking for axl then you are a total ass causing trouble Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: jarmo on May 14, 2005, 08:36:09 AM the fact Axl uses the GNR name though makes it a little more understandable at GNR shows Where were the people dressed as Izzy and Steven in 1991-93? /jarmo Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: mikegiuliana on May 14, 2005, 10:01:25 AM the fact Axl uses the GNR name though makes it a little more understandable at GNR shows Where were the people dressed as Izzy and Steven in 1991-93? /jarmo good point but gnr was the biggest band in rock, people were familiar with the going ons of gnr, it was always on mtv news.. Now adays lets be honest nothing is happening not many follow a band that ended years ago so closely.. Why did a dozen people tell me they though the vmas was parody, or why is slash wearing a costume with a bucket :hihi: I can see someone going to a gnr copncert expecting slash.. it's just fact that the two are associated, but to expect axl at a velvet revolver concert is absurd.. ;) Title: Re: Why Piss On Weiland?? Post by: D on May 14, 2005, 05:13:20 PM Izzy and Steven werent really stars though.
Very important to the band but casual non hardcore fans recognize Axl and Slash and basically u could put anyone around those guys back in those days and it really wouldnt matter to the casual fans. I think if Slash were still in the band but everyone else was new, people wouldnt even really care that much and wouldnt object to the GNR name being used. I'm just sayin people in Rio De Janero probably expected Slash to be there, they heard GNR were gonna be there so GNR to them was probably the old lineup. It would be like VR getting a new guy to replace Dave Kushner, I dont think many would care to be honest. Izzy of course was very very important to the band, but Id bet not many casual concertgoers bought a ticket to see Izzy and really Drummers are a dime a dozen unless u are truly special like Tommy Lee or someone. |