Here Today... Gone To Hell!

wonder what they are gonna play? wonder if they will win an award?

tune in sunday night to watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was filmed Wed they played Fall To Pieces

well shit for an awards show i was hopin they would rock somethin out! but oh well as long as they perform!

It's big in 04, they have to play their current popular single..
I would have liked stbs, but I guess they have to play a known song on this type of show..

Well hopefully this is a start of a new trend. I fucking hate VH1 and MTV with a passion. Calling Estranged and Mother by Danzig a bad metal song? Gn'R isn't Metal you dumb assholes.  I don't really think Danzigs mother is all that metal either. But

They don't consider it metal, it's just a name they give those shows.. It's catchy like metal moments, it consists of everything rock, It's from winger to gnr to metallica, it's just putting music that is rock in one category.

When I was younger people would say hair metal, how many bands that had spandex n hairspray were really "metal"

Oh well, I can't wait for the show, I heard the preview on 92.3 K-Rock and it says pefrormances by this one then vr, and you hear a short clip, and it was ftps live..

ok just watched the performance.  First of all today I heard falls to pieces on the radio and was like alright maybe I'll have to pull contraband out of the cd case in my closet and I'll listen threw it tommorrow since I hadn't listend to it since the first week it came out.  Then I decided I'll watch the show tonight and see them perform so I flipped threw different shows threw the night until they came on.  It sucked the only person in to it at the show was lame ass motley crue dude tommy.  Scotts vocals sucked Slash's crack was hanging out of his pants and the whole group blew.  Its the damn truth. I then compared it to GNR's performance in 2002 at the VMA's.  Everyone was screaming while GNR were playing I think half the reason people thought it blew was because you could barely hear the band over the crowd, I don't think Axl could hear himself thats why he got lost that one time during paradise city.  Axl ran around on stage slapping hands and dancing and Scott stood there like a chump I thought you guys said he gave a good performance at live shows? (I know he did back in the stp days) but not now.  Slash gave a better show performance then BH but not as good sound wise but Robin gave a better show performance then Slash and his crack didn't show while spinning around.  Contraband will still sit in my closet tommorrow and will never see the light of day and I will again like I did today, yesterday, and two years ago listen to my cd with madagascar, the blues, and chinese democracy on it and wait for Axl to finally release the most anticipated album of all time.

The only cool thing from the show was duff and slash at the start facing each other like they did live in tokyo when they played "wild horses".

GNR for fucking ever.

WHAT A PERFORMANCE!!!!! WHAT A PERFORMANCE!

And you CANNOT beat Slash's ass in those red leather pants.

But, staying on topic, Scott's voice was GREAT, everything was perfect and I am in love. ?:love:

omg were you watching the same performance I was it totally blew dude people were leaving while they were playing.  Slash blew the solo and I don't think anybody wants to see some 40 something ass hanging out of their pants.  Scotts vocals blew for the most part.

Poor Axl,I'm so sorry for him,on top that he has no voice left for his career,he had to sit down tonight in front of the box while he was pulling out his dredlocks from left and right and watch another kickass performance by his ex-mates. :rofl:? ?:beer:

number 1, slash's ass wasnt hanging out

number 2, never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever say robin is better at anything than slash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


why cant everyone be like me and appreciate both bands?

i mean u dont have to choose. Velvet Revolver are the best band ive heard in the last 10 years easily and Contraband is a classic cd, i like the one poster on heres signature, if u dont listen to contraband u are just cheating yourself or something like that, its true.

i have a tattoo of Axl on my forearm but that dont stop me from loving the old members.

dont u realize if it wasnt for Slash, Robin and Buckethead wouldnt have had shit to play on the 2002 tour, dont ever fuckin forget that!!!!!!!!!!


also Scott is an amazing performer, the reason he didnt rock out was cause it was a ballad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u cant rock out to ballads u would look ridiculous.

also u are distoring things a tad bit

that was the first anyone had heard from axl in 10 years and was such a shock of course the reaction was out of this world.

axl is way better than Scott but to say Robin is better than Slash is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard in my life.

I thought they were fantastic. Scott was more into it tonight than I have previously seen out of him and he really hit every note, and there is just something about seeing Slash Solo that just sends chills up my spine....Its like no matter how many times I see him play that(or anything for that matter) I just never get tired of seeing him do it.

It was cool that they let them end the show like they did, it made them seem somewhat important, or like it was a big deal. They weren't just barried in the beginning of the show.


I am with you D....no reason we can't love both bands. It is retarded that the Axl zealots aren't letting themselves enjoy VR while waiting on CD. I mean what other band out there right now offers Slash and Duff, who were at one point or another idolized by everyone on this board. I have really gotten into this VR thing and I can't wait until the day I can listen to their CD and GNR's in the same car ride  :beer:

I dont really like FTP so i wish they played a different song. I was more interested in screen shots of Jennie Mcarthy while VR was playing, than i was VR. You see one FTP performence, you seen them all.

I'm not some VR hating Axl loving fuck everyone else person. ?I think sucker train blues rocks and is the best song on the album and I can't believe they haven't released that as a single yet. ?I'm just saying that the performance wasn't good and actually blew. ?I loved Slash back in the day even in Snakepit but now he isn't very good and Duff is cool and all but he's not that great. ?One thing that has really killed VR for me other then contraband is the way they talk about the old band and Axl I've never heard Axl bash any of them but they've all bashed him several times. ?And there is a few bands out there right now that are good other then VR such as Audioslave, 3 Doors Down, STP(if they wouldn't have broken up, I've got every STP cd). ?You say GNR got that response because that was the first time seen in years okay sure but when I saw them live it was even louder screaming during the whole show I've got 2 of the shows on dvd from 2002 one I went to in columbus ohio and the MSG show and all you hear the whole show is screaming the only other time I've seen that before is from watching The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show and their other concerts (not making a music or popularity comparison I love both bands).

GNR for fucking ever.

dude i give u the axl argument all day long, he is my fav member and i love GNR, i just didnt like your comment that seemed to put Robin in the same league as Slash

i really dont think Robin is a good guitarist to be honest and if u just think for a second, all of those great GNR songs that got such huge reactions wouldnt be the classics they are if not for Slash,Duff and Izzy

Axl is the greatest front man ever,  no one can argue with that but im telling u Velvet Revolver are way better than those bands u listed in my opinion

i just dont want people to miss out

i can show u posts of mine where the first couple times i heard contraband i bashed the shit out of it, thought it was the worst cd i ever heard in my life and i was disappointed beyond words

but i kept giving it a chance and now i cannot stop listening to it and havent been able to for around 4 months now.

Remember VR arent in competition with Axl, not at all, and honestly the old members really havent bashed axl that much and Axl has talked about them a few times but we cant judge axl yet cause he hasnt really been in the press

we will have to wait and see when C.democracy comes out and he startsgiving interviews and stuff to judge if he is gonna bash the old band or not.

im almost look more forward to axl's interviews and cover stories more than i am the actual cd

imagine when he is asked if he has heard Contraband and what he thinks of VR.

thats gonna be a nice read!

Slash was complimentary on the Behind the Music and Duff hasnt said too much about it. i think with all things considered SLash and Duff have handeld it pretty well.

i mean they were almost forced out of their own band, can u honestly tell me u wouldnt be a little pissed off? and the fact they havent bashed him more is amazing to me.

For those that watched the show, what was VR's introduction like?

 :hihi:

Thats called denial my friend...

Anyway, I unfortunately missed the performance, but Ill be sure to catch it on one of the 70 replays VH1 will surely run.

Tommy Lee and Jenny Mccarthy introduced them

Tommy said give it up for my boys

and jenny said Velvet Revolver

at the end the crowd were goin wild, scott was holdin out the microphone and they were screamin and shit, scott kept holdin it out it was great

scott had bright purple hair!!!!!!!!! fuscia? * i cant spell it* they looked cool and to be honest was the best performance ive seen of FTP, SLash's solo was the best ive heard it, real emotional and just raw!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slash's clean didnt kick in good sometimes though and u couldnt hear the slow main guitar riff durin the first line of the verses after the first chorus.

D basically covered it all.. I enjoyed the show, scott seems to put his heart n soul into eevrything, I really liked how happy tommy lee seemed introducin them, and he and jenny had a smile as they bopped along during the song..

I am not crazy about the echo that's sometimes used, but scott's voice was very clear.. Slash played very well, and he looks like he's in good shape, he played the right notes, his guitar just had some off sounds at times.. Something worng with soundcheck type a sound..

Scott's hair reminded me of when he did the plush vdeo, just a little difference in color

Damn you're a negative bastard, oh at the vmas you mean those people that scream for every band?
I love when someone see's a vr live spot and needs to bring new gnr into the mix, like you couldn't just? say I didn't like it.. I mean scott had to do what axl did, he needed to run around the stage to be effective..?

Scott is scott axl is axl.. Geez when are you people going to wake up..?

It didn't even bother me that you didn't like teh performance, just the whole my contraband cd will never see the light of day, gnr fucking rocks, drama queen shit is so lame, just tsay I didn't like teh performance, no need for the build up of diggs just to say why gnr is better,,.. I love how you found the way to say axl coukldn't hear himslelf and he was more energetic because of it.. You have an excuse for him, but for scott it's like I'm? a wussy I'll never listen to contraband becvause of it..

I mean you took your contraband out for the first tiem since the second week of june, and now you will keep it in the dark forever because the big in 04 performance didn't suit you.. Please you sounded very optomisitic..

Oh yeah and the entire group blew, what an ass,. They just played no way each individual player sucked..

Just say this isn't new gnr so I can't like it

I prefer when a poster such as tp4ever makes those kind of posts...so theres no confusion what their agenda is.

I just watched the show last night and from where I stand that was pure rock n roll. No it wasn't perfect, but thats what makes it great to me. And furthermore, I get the same chill in my spine watching these guys now as I did back in the day.

Velvet Revolver's performance was pretty good. The rest of what I saw sucked....

The rest of the 115 minute program was pure shit. Talk about bringing out alot of assholes of 2004.. ::) ...What a waste of time ! The entire show I flipped back and forth hoping V.R. was coming on. If I'd known they were gonna close the show I'd waited til the end to flip over and watch.

I watched the performance for the second time now,I really wasn't paying too much attention the first time.
 Slash didn't show any crack,Scott sounds good as always,the crowd was great I didn't see anyone leaving the place while they were performing.

 From where this guy tp4ever gets all these crap he was talking about.

I thought it was a great rendition of a great song.  It was cool when they showed Tommy Lee digging the song.  This was a pretty good moment in rock if you ask me.  tp4ever - you should stick to watching only new GNR  television performances if you don't like VR.  Would that be fun now?

IMO most of those VH1 shows are lame.? This one was so bad it was almost painful to watch.? The VR performance was one of the few good parts.

VR sounded good but I didn't like Scott doing his "Slither" moves or Slash doing that hopping thing because I don't think it fits that song.

As for Slash's ass hanging out... those leather pants were so flimsy that when Slash turned around it just looked like his ass was spray painted red.? :hihi:


Edited to add:? Did anyone notice in the very beginning of the show when Scott said that VR were the show's "headliners"?

Yes, I did GypsySoul. I also saw where Scott got to pose with Fergie(BEP) for a camera shot ! Lucky fella he is...... :yes: ;)

That girlf from the black eyed peas has an awesome body.. :o We should check matt sorum's dressing room

a lot of fucking liberals were still running their mouths on that show, which pissed me off. I happen to like Jenny and Tommy, so I was really glad they were the ones who introduced (and dug) the boys. I thought that performance was absolutely wonderful, and who gives a flying fuck what they looked like and/or what was hanging out? not sure how much the crowd was digging them but they definitely got a great applause. I think slash pulled off the solo just fine, but since I don't know everything about the technicalities or chords of guitars, one thing that's been bothering me about his les paul's nowadays are that the chords are really flimsy and not tight enough? is that right? it just seems the sound isn't strong enough, esp at certain parts where it should be. the amps were also a tiny problem when they performed on late-night shows. I can hear duff's bass and everything else fantastic, and scott hit EVERY note, but there's just something about slash's strings/chords that are just not hitting that climax or "optimum" and it bothers me.

Yeah, because after all, ones political beliefs should coincide with whoevers president at the time, or not be voiced at all... ::)

You got that right Mike !!!!! She's a hottie indeed !!!  :yes: : ok:

Hal Sparks: ". . . while Rush Limbaugh was in an oxycotton haze . . ."

That was un-called for and you guys wouldn't recognize it because it doesn't offend you.

But they are comedians, ever see I love the 80's, 90's talk soup or anything else, hal spark just rolls witht eh punches.. If someone wants to complain talk about kichale moore and the ass kisser I'm a has been sharon stone.. I votef for kerry ,but enough with the firsts tep and democracy..

There's already a usa election thread, I rather stay with vr instead of political bullshit..

mike, I've watched those I Love The ___s shows, and I have found myself laughing at Hal Sparks, but he was dead serious when he made that remark. all of hollywood and all of the comediens were quiet about their political opinions, but then they come out and don't go back in. no one fucking likes hearing them do that, whether they share their affiliation or not.

Why was it uncalled for? ?Because hes a conservative talk-show host? ?Because he makes his living on attacking others (coincidentally, for opposing political viewpoints)? ?Maybe youre unaware, but Limbaughs drug abuse was a pretty big story this year. ?And the theme of this awards show?  The big stories of the past year.  So no, a comedian making a joke (which reads more like a fact) about a true, widely-reported public story doesnt offend me - especially when it concerns an astonishingly hypocritical jerkoff like Limbaugh (or O'Reilly. ?Take your pick ?;))  Hal Sparks general lameness, however, does offend me.

But Im sure you were just as offended by those Bill Clinton jokes 6 years ago, right? ? : ok:

Back on-topic, I still havent seen it...If anybody finds video of it, make sure to post it here. ?:yes:

I'm sure some video will pop up, anyways it will be played alot on vh1, so be sure to check teh tv guide or the channel info and tape it.. Sorry if you don't live in the states, I will see if someone has posted it and give you the link..
big in 04 is on from 6-8 pm est today..

Man, how did this get to politics again :)?  I wasn't too happy with the political crap either, and I saw Slash with Michael Moore for a second as they were going to commercial one time.  But, overall, I could care less as long as VR performed and performed well.  And they did just that.  They made the show respectable, because the other parts of the show were pretty lame.

They look great...I especially like Scotts shirt.

red x's.

same here..  :'(

its uncalled for because I want to watch an award show not a covention

yeah ive been sayin it for months and i agree with younggunner, there is a time and place for everything and this wasnt the right place

u did all u could micheal moore and u still failed, u arent the great "savior" like u thought u were, now shut up and wait till 08.


I voted for Kerry and he lost, Bush is the president, so i think the country should unite and not stay divided.

i would say fergie was lucky getting to pose with Scott.

The crowd wasnt as into it cause it was a ballad, ballads arent the right choice for awards shows, i figured they'd play slither at least, something uptempo.

but i thought it was great.

alright alright to get you guys off my back i'm going to pull out contraband and try to catch big in 04' again.  I think i said this once that I am a huge stp fan a fan of snakepit so its not like i hate slash or scott so i'm going to give it another try and I do like parts of falls to pieces just didn't like the performance but i'm going to watch it again and i'll repost if you want me to or not.  I won't compare it to GNR either its hard not to since slash is in it and this is a gnr forum but i won't compare on my next post.

GNR for fucking ever.

Ill repeat what I said earlier: The premise of this award show was 2004s current events, including politics and drug addict radio hosts.? Its also VH1 "Big In '04," not the Grammys or Academy Awards.? Its supposed to be "irreverent."? So if youre expecting not to hear anything about politics, political figures, or drug abusing radio hosts, youre obviously watching the wrong program.? The producers decide whats "called for."? And some political content doesnt make it a convention.

Its been a while, but Im positive there were plenty of Clinton jokes being told at "real" awards shows like the Grammys...I wonder if people were so sensitive then?

I watched bits and pieces of this awards show, and it was awful.  It looked like a big, dumb mess, and was hardly as entertaining as it should be.

Scotts vocals were perfect.  I was pretty impressed by how well he did vocally.  The rest of the band did a good job as usual...however, I dont get Slashs purple streaks.  He does this occassionally, and I just dont get it.  :-X

 ??? When did he do any "Slither" moves?  He did a couple of Frankenstein steps at the very end, but thats about it.  I didnt see any of the writhing or dancing he usually does.

i am endlessly impressed by Scott's vocals. i think he has a startingly beautiful voice.

general rule: any award show NOT the Oscars (and even that is debatable) is ridiculous and silly. while i like VH1 and recognize that, creatively and artistically, they have made MASSIVE strides in the "hip and relevant" direction (remember, the network used to be the music channel your parents watched), all their award show/convention type things are so stupid. anytime you make Paris Hilton share the stage with a band like Velvet Revolver, everyone walks away a little less cool.

 ;)

I was able to catch VH1's Big in 04 show last night and I really enjoyed VR's performance. I cant stand all of the people who are coming around and bashing this band. Hello guys\girls 3 of these guys used to be part of the biggest band in the world and you still cant support them! Whats up with that?  I support VR because Slash and Duff helped me realize whats real raw rock n roll really was when I was growing up. My favorite member of Guns is Axl. If Axl told me to take a bullet for him I would probably be standing in line with many of you. But 1 thing I will not do is bash Slash, Matt or Duff. Come on thats too much High School drama. Back to topic. Falls to Pieces is a great song! Slash was dead on and gave me goose bumps when he broke out on his solo. I have never been to faund of Scott but hey he did a average job. If you get the chance check out the performance VH1 will show a million reruns. Oh by the way they performance was last so dont waste your time watching the whole show.

Awesome pics!

I second that!  Very Nice!

Slither moves = Frankenstein steps = Spaz dancing ... whatever you wanna call it? ?::)

Scott started spazzin' at about the one minute mark of the song... about 45 seconds later Slash started doing the bunny hop thing ... 50 seconds later Scott was spazzin again ... then 20 seconds later BUTT CRACK!!!? (Slash probably didn't really flash the crack but the illusion was there with the shirt riding up in the back and the low-rider skin-tight pants)

anyways ...

my point was that I thought they sounded a lot better than say when they performed on Leno and Letterman but I didn't think the jerking movements and the hopping goes as well with Fall To Pieces as it does with Slither.?

gypsy who cares  slash has been hopping around for years, scott has been that way forever, shit people focus on the dumbest shit.. He has yoga  like dance moves ,he seems to contort his body..

On another note I like how tommy lee just said fuck the script and just said how he felt an introduced his boys.. You could see him enjoying himself during slash's solo during the performance..

I have watched the performace alot, everything was positive.. Slash played dead on, just sounded like his guitar was a bit out of tune, anyone else notice it..  I'm not into the proper technical terms, maybe someone else can explain it..

 ::)? I was trying to clarify for Booker Floyd my original reply.? Was it really necessary to call me "shit people"?? ?

 i wrote it the wrong way, I should have said SHIT, people focus on teh dumbest shit.. It's nothing personal, this board is run damn well, but I read other vr forums where the topics are all scott is gay , his moves are gay, he's not axl, new gnr is better, etc..

There's so many positives going on with vr, I wish people could focus on that instead of those dance moves or slash hopping around..

I say that because every show slash bounces around, scott always moves liekt hat and has been weird in movemnets since stp.. I apologize ,I just get sick of the same threads or replies over the smae dumb shit.. I wasn't calkling you that though, I should have used a comma

Yea but thats mocking his life not politics. Thats fine. If these peopel want to make fun of GW"s personality and the way he talks =, and how "dumb" he is...thats fine. Its for comedy reasons. But I dont wanna hear the same old garbage from that slob MM. If I wanna hear his propganda Ill go watch that movie. But whatever...

Clarifying your reply?? ?;)
No apology necessary.? To be honest, I understood what you were saying.? This was just my way of pointing out how easy it is for people to misinterpret the point being expressed.

IMO, the dance moves, hopping, clothing, etc. are important aspects of the performance and I don't think it's dumb to comment on them.? I wasn't suggesting that those moves were bad or gay.? I think they're fine for a song like "Slither" but not in a ballad-type song like "Fall To Pieces".

I agree that topics like 'Scott is gay' or 'Old vs. New GNR' are dumb.
 

That really make me think how some people here knows how to rock for real,they'd rather see those dumb martial arts moves from Chickenhead than see a real rocker kicking ass on the stage.      Salud :beer:

I actually caught that last night...I loved the VR performance...but I wish someone would have said something about it being the last event...I wouldn't have had to sit through all that shit...although I did dig the Steve Wonder presentation to Jamie...That Nick Lachey dude, what a boring piece of flesh he is... ::)

I thought everyone looked great...could anyone read what Slash's shirt said? Mr. Scott sure is a skinny little thing but he wears those low riders real nice...loved the magenta hair...liked the fact that the audience was actually standing for them 2 check them out...Slash!!! Always a good thing...wish they would have done the sucktrain blues though, that would've rocked.... ;D

Suprised you didn't see any of the it was the last thing to happen during the show, hey you had to suffer like the rest of us..

Not gothic??..

I'm not positive but I think it said "Not Guilty"

That's correct, it did say Not Guilty.

Finally saw it and I have to agree with everybody that it was a good performance. And Slash's ass crack was hanging out at one point....He really dresses like a boob at times...