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« on: January 26, 2004, 12:04:33 PM »

Does anyone know how the girl in the November Rain video died?
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2004, 12:49:19 PM »

That's why I was thinking she was shot by Axl (remember he goes to "Guns" store? But find Trilogy video (smth like that) where this stuff were discussed. I was told that in that was Axl killed himself.
 So I don't know it either. crying
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2004, 01:25:36 PM »

Half of her face was covered in the casket, so I assume she was shot.




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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2004, 03:23:46 PM »

 Shocked Oh God!
I've always wondered that too!

Why? did he kill her?HuhHuh
Tell me more.................  Kiss
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2004, 02:04:36 PM »

Because Slash was in love with her and, obviously, she was too Wink
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2004, 07:20:49 PM »

The character Stephanie Seymour's part is based on in the video kills herself in the story.  The reason for half of her face being covered in the casket is becasue she shoots herself in the head.  I can't locate my copy of the book at the moment to give more detail than that.  But that's the jist of it.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2004, 02:57:54 PM »

The character Stephanie Seymour's part is based on in the video kills herself in the story.  The reason for half of her face being covered in the casket is becasue she shoots herself in the head.  I can't locate my copy of the book at the moment to give more detail than that.  But that's the jist of it.

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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2004, 05:44:48 PM »

are you fucking serous holy shit Shocked
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2004, 05:26:59 AM »

The character Stephanie Seymour's part is based on in the video kills herself in the story.  The reason for half of her face being covered in the casket is becasue she shoots herself in the head.  

Why?
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2004, 06:24:13 AM »

My idea of the video is that...He is having nightmare about someone he loved. She is half dead, that is why they had the split coffin.  He is having a nightmare that maybe oneday she will kill herself...If you watch Making of the video Nov. Rain he says so. ?t would be his worst nightmare".

He is having a dream about someone he loved but he couldn't have, listen to the tape...it's simple once you understand it.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2004, 09:03:12 AM »

Actuaaly I haven't noticed any split coffin. Whatever, I should look better. Have you got "Making of..." from mygnr.com? And in what format do you have it?
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2004, 10:42:57 PM »

I never noticed what was going on in the video I just thought Axl killed her.I mostly listen to the music,I never care what the video is about. no
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2004, 06:02:57 AM »

I never noticed what was going on in the video I just thought Axl killed her.I mostly listen to the music,I never care what the video is about. no
oh but you should, the trilogie videos are realy worth to interprate. and the videos combine the 3 songs to one strange but structured story.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2004, 09:18:33 PM »

Trilogy videos ey?  Shocked
Well, i know that Don't Cry and November Rain are obviously linked- i know that, but what's the 3rd one? and is it the concluding part- i.e after Novermber Rain?  Undecided Please? (am i just being dumb here- i'm sorry! hehe)

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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2004, 05:12:59 AM »

Estranged is the third part. (even if it says that it's the fourth)

You all should read Without You by Del James. (just search: "del james"+"without you")

It's one of the best stories I've ever read and if you read you'll get better insight of the trilogy videos.
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2004, 05:37:15 AM »

Estranged is the third part. (even if it says that it's the fourth)


Estranged was supposed to be the third part. Instead they made it a different story so it became part IV.


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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2006, 10:56:56 AM »

if you watch at the end of the video it says "based on a short story called 'without you'" so i assume the woman dies in that. i thought the song originally was written about his love for eran everly that died. (i thought that the woman lying in the casket represented the dead love). that's until i realised that november rain was wriiten befor he met eran everley. i think.


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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2006, 03:59:10 PM »

if you watch at the end of the video it says "based on a short story called 'without you'" so i assume the woman dies in that. i thought the song originally was written about his love for eran everly that died. (i thought that the woman lying in the casket represented the dead love). that's until i realised that november rain was wriiten befor he met eran everley. i think.


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Parrykins, it's odd that i never knew that and i've seen the video 24 times. and it's ERIN Everly. not ERAN.
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2006, 08:17:21 PM »

Per the video, somewhere in there I do believe Axl states that it is kinda hard playing the role with Stephanie when the person the song is related to is someone else, meaning Erin.  I don't know if the song was written before he new Erin, but he was definately dating Erin when he became GN'R.  If the song existed at the time it was definately put on the back burner like Don't Cry, and finished at a later time. However in a book that I own, which is by the way unauthorized, it states this:  "Though the video to the song would appear cryptic and refer to situation beyond a relationship problem, the lyrics were romantic and direct, Axl suppurating "so if you want to love me then darlin don't refrain."  This was an admittance that he required love as much as anyone and he felt together (with Stephanie the subject of the song) he and his 'perfect woman' could still find a way.  'Cause nothin lasts forever even cold November rain".  I myself would choose to believe the video more so as it comes directly from Axl.
Now for the short story-Stephanie shot herself in the head, if you look closely at the video, while she is laying in the casket that was specially constructed, it allows her face to look as it was before the suicide.  If I can remember, as it has been a little while since I have read the book, Axl did not kill himself, but died in a fire that was started by accident due to a forgotten ciggarette he had lit. Hope some of this is helpful.





















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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2006, 04:24:35 PM »

I always though she was hit inderectly by a lightning thats why her face was half black, guess I was wrong  nervous
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