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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2003, 05:06:34 PM »

Actually NIN's first album came out the same time as Appetite...so Axl wouldnt say shit about NIN.

Pretty Hate Machine was released in 1989, Appetite in 1987.



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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2003, 09:02:31 PM »

Well, no matter when NIN's first album came out.  Crashdiet's idea for an explanation by Axl is pretty good...I mean, if I read that on the GN'R website, it would seem like the best possible explanation Axl could offer.  I mean, it's basically what he's said before.  I like the last line, about the wait being worth it...it's a hopeful kinda thing.  I'm sure that if Axl is happy with the album (notorious perfectionist that he is), we'll all be absolutely in love with it.  It's all relative.

Still, I'm guessing that if Axl ever does offer an explanation for the 10 year+ wait for the album, it'll be some throwaway line he says to an interviewer about how he "wanted to get the songs just right", or something like that.  We've seen from the way he's handled his various riots that Axl is NOT the kind of guy who feels he needs to explain his actions.
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2003, 09:28:53 PM »

The music off of CD will explain everything and make all this silence obsolete smoking Cheesy  Wink

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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2003, 09:47:53 PM »

the reason it's takin so much time is that axl is writing a book right now about how it takes so much timeto make the cd, and the book will be released with the cd, but as he'swriting the book, he cant finish the cd, so the story gets bigger, so the book gets longer, so axl writes more, and more, and it NEVER STOPS !!!!!!!!  nervous

 ok  THAT was great.

oh, coon.... by "he made a gay joke", are you using gay as a derogatory term saying his joke was really bad? or that it was a homosexual joke?  You need to be careful about being politically correct dammit.   Grin
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2003, 06:53:36 AM »

I honestly believe he will say nothing..Let the music speak for itself and if he can tour and the "buzz" is good, why say nothing.  I think as well if the Slash and Duff were still in the band we would have heard something. But if all goes to hell, we will all be back here wodering as we are now? I dunno it is early and have not had my coffee yet, have a great day everyone.
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« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2003, 08:43:25 AM »

the reason it's takin so much time is that axl is writing a book right now about how it takes so much timeto make the cd, and the book will be released with the cd, but as he'swriting the book, he cant finish the cd, so the story gets bigger, so the book gets longer, so axl writes more, and more, and it NEVER STOPS !!!!!!!!  nervous

 ok  THAT was great.

oh, coon.... by "he made a gay joke", are you using gay as a derogatory term saying his joke was really bad? or that it was a homosexual joke?  You need to be careful about being politically correct dammit.   Grin

I forgot about being PC. What the fucking hell was I thinking? I guess I'll have to explain better next time  Wink
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« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2003, 02:17:13 PM »

For goodness sake... why the hell should Axl give some of you guys on here an explanation... when you slag him off!
Leave him alone!
And i don't care if you guys think that i'm an Axl Ass-Kisser,
because if thats the case, i'm proud to support him through-out!
InSupportOfAxl i agree with you gal!
Just listen to CD and see for yourselves!
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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2003, 06:01:03 PM »

For goodness sake... why the hell should Axl give some of you guys on here an explanation... when you slag him off!

He definitely owes the Philadelphia attendees an explanation no matter what they say about him.
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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2003, 06:06:28 PM »

that is prob the only statement i will ever agree with dizzy with lol
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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2003, 06:49:05 PM »

The evidence is overwhelming that Axl suffers from manic depression. Its been well documented through out the years. Axl thinks the world is out to get him, yet he does things that invites such criticism. Paranoia.
He dislikes the internet, the media, the public and even, dare I say, his fans. I don't think Axl would ever say anything about the matter, nor whould he let anybody ask him of it.

Remember the list of "questions not to ask," he had his people slam on the interviewer? Well, that list is getting longer and longer. Having said that, Chinese Democracy's release will shut the million other questions temporarily. Because CD, will bring about a whole set of new questions...such as why the sound, why techno, why this and that.....
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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2003, 06:56:07 PM »

The evidence is overwhelming that Axl suffers from manic depression.

Since Axl once said that he does, I'd say you're right, the evidence is overwhelming.  [hihi]
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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2003, 10:14:07 PM »

"I really was on my way to Philadelphia for that show, but on my way out of the hotel room, I got my dick stuck in the bathroom door and I couldn't get out until now!  And did I mention it's all Slash's fault?"
hihi hihi  rofl rofl  that's a funny shit!  hihi hihi   rofl rofl

An explanation?  We're not even gonna get an album,never mind an explanation.
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« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2003, 11:40:50 PM »

First off axl doesn't really have to explain anything (well a philly explaination would be appropriate)

But really he'll probably say something along the lines of

"With the old line up we did a lot of great things.... I mean appetite blew the roof off of everything and I dare I say opened up the doors for bands like nirvana and NIN because we took on pop music and said "fuck it we do what we want"... then with the illusions we created some huge things. The whole process of showing your own demons and weakness on film and in music (estranged, november rain, coma, breakdown etc etc) is difficult. I truly think we took Guns to the next level of musicanship and artistry with the illusions. We had one of the most successful tours ever, and with that came a standard of what Guns N Roses stands for. GnR has always been about pushing the envelope and taking things to the next level. Whether it was getting enough cash to eat, getting enough money to fix the van to tour, pushing the live show to the limits to get people to the clubs, taking the lyrical level from "talk dirty to me" to "to heal the broken memories that another man would need just to survive"... guns has always pushed on to the next level.

After the illusions I thought we were ready to push things to the next level again... unfortunately those around me didn't feel the same way, and were content to exist on past glories.... i have always thought that Guns fans are the best in the world, and would and will never be content to not give them what they deserve... the best music guns can deliever....

You have to understand everyone but me and dizzy abandoned the cause, the vision... and to compete and surpass what GnR did in the past is not an easy feat... it took me 3-4 years to find the right people for the job, it takes time to create a natural chemisty, and to supercede and move to the next level....

At different points I thought we were ready to make the next move, but the best intentions sometimes go astray... Reality changes from day to day and its only now i feel that GnR is where it should be, to truly give the fans what they deserve.

I never thought it would take this long, but I thank everyone for being patient... i'm sure you'll agree it was worth the wait"

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Thats what I think axl would say


 Oh please.......

I think most people would see a statement like that for what it is: a bunch of self-serving, self agrandizing, dishonest, pompous tripe, complete with backhanded compliments to the former members & not so thinly veiled criticisms of the former members who were, as you put it, "content to rest on past glories".

Whatever. I really think if he put out something like that, he'd get slammed even more than he does now, & rightly so,  for being such a phony and not giving a real & honest explanation for what's been going on the last x number of years.

"You have to understand everyone but me and dizzy abandoned the cause, blah blah blah...." nah, that's not too self serving. Roll Eyes

But hey, that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2003, 09:00:34 PM »

 You have to understand everyone but me and dizzy abandoned the cause. hihi hihi hihi hihi hihi    rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

 This is what I like to call,the tool of the day. hihi hihi
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2003, 09:05:49 PM »

My two cents:
1. it is not a stupid thread
2. Axl will blame someone/something
3. fans are not likely to ever hear the truth because.....Axl is Axl
4. we ARE owed an explanation, especially those who bought tickets, rented rooms, and traveled far to see the band.
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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2003, 05:34:26 AM »

I doubt anything will be said.....like usual
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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2003, 01:42:45 PM »

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 Oh please.......

I think most people would see a statement like that for what it is: a bunch of self-serving, self agrandizing, dishonest, pompous tripe, complete with backhanded compliments to the former members & not so thinly veiled criticisms of the former members who were, as you put it, "content to rest on past glories".

Whatever. I really think if he put out something like that, he'd get slammed even more than he does now, & rightly so,  for being such a phony and not giving a real & honest explanation for what's been going on the last x number of years.

"You have to understand everyone but me and dizzy abandoned the cause, blah blah blah...." nah, that's not too self serving. Roll Eyes

But hey, that's just my opinion.
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Why is that a lot of people can't see this thing from axl's perspective... I mean he didn't want to put out what he thought was tired shitty music. The other members decided to leave, he was and still is determined to give the fans something great.

Whether or not you think he can do something great without slash or duff or izzy is almost irrelevant, because axl thinks he can (and I trust that he will deliver)... he truly feels the rest of the band abandoned him "i'm as upset and disappointed as you are" (not an exact quote from rio, talking about the absence of the former members).

Axl truly feels he was forced to carry on the legacy alone... and I support him in that cause.

Slash says he never offically quit but just took a break, well axl had to have a guitarist so he replaced him, and continued on.

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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2003, 02:04:51 PM »

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 Oh please.......

I think most people would see a statement like that for what it is: a bunch of self-serving, self agrandizing, dishonest, pompous tripe, complete with backhanded compliments to the former members & not so thinly veiled criticisms of the former members who were, as you put it, "content to rest on past glories".

Whatever. I really think if he put out something like that, he'd get slammed even more than he does now, & rightly so,  for being such a phony and not giving a real & honest explanation for what's been going on the last x number of years.

"You have to understand everyone but me and dizzy abandoned the cause, blah blah blah...." nah, that's not too self serving. Roll Eyes

But hey, that's just my opinion.
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Why is that a lot of people can't see this thing from axl's perspective... I mean he didn't want to put out what he thought was tired shitty music. The other members decided to leave, he was and still is determined to give the fans something great.

Whether or not you think he can do something great without slash or duff or izzy is almost irrelevant, because axl thinks he can (and I trust that he will deliver)... he truly feels the rest of the band abandoned him "i'm as upset and disappointed as you are" (not an exact quote from rio, talking about the absence of the former members).

Axl truly feels he was forced to carry on the legacy alone... and I support him in that cause.

Slash says he never offically quit but just took a break, well axl had to have a guitarist so he replaced him, and continued on.



yeah, Axl continued on, look at all the amazing  things he has done since
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« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2003, 04:19:31 PM »

After 1996, Slash has never said he didn't officially quit.  He said numerous times that he did.  
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« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2003, 04:50:11 PM »



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