New Duff podcast - "Gn'R taking 2024 off"

[jarmo]

Well, I don't agree with you on that. I do think there'll be an album. I just don't know when, or expect one without any kind of confirmation that this is the plan.

Chinese was gonna come out because Axl had talked about it multiple times. Made no sense to me not to release it. This time, we haven't really heard any confirmation (yet). They've mentioned wanting to do it, but nothing concrete, and wanting to release songs they have worked on.



/jarmo

[slashsbaconpit]

That’s cool. I hope you’re right. I doubt it, but I’ll bet you a whole dollar we don’t see one in the next five years.

Anyway, thanks for all you do to keep this place up and running! 

[jarmo]

That’s cool. I hope you’re right. I doubt it, but I’ll bet you a whole dollar we don’t see one in the next five years.

In 2012 Axl said "Not In This Lifetime" when asked about reuniting, and it happened in 2016. So who knows!


The way music is consumed these days, the idea of singles/standalone tracks seem more interesting. I guess on the other hand, some would be annoyed getting new songs every few months instead of everything at once.

Anyway, thanks for all you do to keep this place up and running! 

My pleasure.




/jarmo

[DeN]

personally I want an album with 10 original tracks that no one knows from this current line up.

so in my mind, reworked CD era tracks doesn't count for the next LP
for them I think it's cool to have a single from time to time.

for the album, I see things in a more traditional way, in terms of distribution

[jarmo]

But how would you know when the track was first created?

Unless you knew of the song title from somewhere, or made the decision to obtain tracks elsewhere.




/jarmo

[DeN]

credits ?

[jarmo]

credits ?

So you would read the song writing credits and decide based on that whether or not the track would count as new or not. Got it.

Once again, this reminds me of AFD and UYI featuring songs that were created before GN'R existed... No one seemed to mind back then about the Hollywood Rose, AFD leftovers etc.




/jarmo

[DeN]

credits ?

So you would read the song writing credits and decide based on that whether or not the track would count as new or not. Got it.

Once again, this reminds me of AFD and UYI featuring songs that were created before GN'R existed... No one seemed to mind back then about the Hollywood Rose, AFD leftovers etc.


/jarmo

it was more of a quick answer to state we all big GNR fans here and we can determine while listening to tracks by whom they were written, or at least which period of time they were, giving credits where credits are due.

I don't think anyone on GNR boards can confuse Chinese Democracy era tracks composed by Robin Finck, Josh Freese or Paul Tobias with Duff and Slash material. different musicians, different approach.

[jarmo]

Sure.

At the end of the day, is it good or not?

Also depends on what the band was going for with the album. If the goal is to not use anything created before April 1st, 2016, then it's different from say choosing unreleased songs they have written at any point.


Paul Tobias? Are you telling me GN'R fans think Shadow Of Your Love and Back Off Bitch doesn't sound like GN'R with Duff and Slash material? He was writing songs with Axl before GN'R existed...



/jarmo

[DeN]

Sure.

At the end of the day, is it good or not?

I'll answer to you after listening the next record 

Also depends on what the band was going for with the album. If the goal is to not use anything created before April 1st, 2016, then it's different from say choosing unreleased songs they have written at any point.


Paul Tobias? Are you telling me GN'R fans think Shadow Of Your Love and Back Off Bitch doesn't sound like GN'R with Duff and Slash material? He was writing songs with Axl before GN'R existed...



/jarmo

that's why I wrote "or at least which period of time they were" because the kind of songs written in the 80s are very hardrock oriented and it was before GNR opened up to other influences, and it depends on that too.

[jarmo]

If you listen to Duff's and Slash's latest solo material, and Chinese Democracy, you might notice that there really isn't just one style that you can say is how GN'R would sound in 202X.

The same way November Rain doesn't sound like Jungle or You Could Be Mine.


Would they write a song like Oh My God now? No clue.




/jarmo

[DeN]

yeah, I don't see them going the Oh My God road or Slash writing something like Scrapped, Shackler or Riad for example, but of course I could be wrong.

[jarmo]

On the other hand, something like Street Of Dreams or I.R.S. doesn't seem that far fetched....




/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

I never would have guessed 2016-2024 would have been so unproductive.

I figured Slash basically had 2 conditions when this was all hatched in 2015 :

-  more professional behavior from Axl on tour
-  they would actually function as a viable band

But also thought, in his heart of hearts...the first was a must, and the second would just be nice if it happened.

In other words, so long as he could get professional GNR shows with no nonsense, he knew he would always still have his solo stuff as a creative outlet. Only with this set up, he'd also have a shit ton more money in his pocket.

I have no complaints.  

This is a legacy touring band at this stage of the game.  Which is fine.  So long as you are going to do that, just do it right.

And they have.

[Gavgnr]

I never would have guessed 2016-2024 would have been so unproductive.

This is a legacy touring band at this stage of the game.  Which is fine.  So long as you are going to do that, just do it right.

And they have.

Can’t really argue with this. I expect nothing more from GnR

[jarmo]

They played more new songs in their shows last year since the beginning of the tour. Four new songs is pretty common for most bands who are out promoting their latest release.

The Rolling Stones are doing three from their latest album. Depeche Mode did four when I saw them on their latest tour.


I get it. You want quantity. As long as they release albums, but the tours are about the old hits, it's ok. They're not a legacy touring act.

The reality is that any band with a longer career is touring thanks to their old hits. Most ticket buyers go see the Foo Fighters because of their hits, same with Metallica and Depeche Mode. Etc etc. Some GN'R fans use this as a label. On the other hand, not many bands have that kind of a timeless catalogue. Most bands touring would love to be in that position. 




/jarmo

[DeN]

On the other hand, something like Street Of Dreams or I.R.S. doesn't seem that far fetched....

/jarmo

I don't know for I.R.S., but certainly a track like Street Of Dreams could have easily found its place on the Use Your Illusions LPs,
however if I'm not mistaken it's predominantly an Axl composition albeit with the input of the other band members, so in terms of songwriting it remains in line with previous material.

[jarmo]

I don't know for I.R.S., but certainly a track like Street Of Dreams could have easily found its place on the Use Your Illusions LPs,
however if I'm not mistaken it's predominantly an Axl composition albeit with the input of the other band members, so in terms of songwriting it remains in line with previous material.

Really? A guitar heavy track like that? It would sound different with Slash playing the guitar, but it's not as different as something like Riad or Shacklers....





/jarmo

[DeN]

yes it's probably an intermediate title, of course it's guitar driven, but it sounds a bit too modern to me in its structure to be considered as a "could be on UYI" track,  probably because of its hip hop rhythmic too

as Slash said when CD came out, and I know you remember the quote " It’s a record that the original Guns N’ Roses could never possibly make."

[DeN]

This is a legacy touring band at this stage of the game.  

not only. we had 5 (very good) new songs since the reunion. it's half an album.
quite a lot, in GNR standard.