The General being released (perhaps B-side)

[Bodhi]

Awesome, looks like it will be available digitally.  I bought the vinyl but digitally is how I primarily listen to music. 

[jarmo]

https://gunsnroses.lnk.to/TheGeneralPresave






/jarmo

[Ginger King]

https://gunsnroses.lnk.to/TheGeneralPresave


/jarmo

What's the benefit of pre-saving it? You don't get it any earlier, right? Looks like I have to agree to give UMG access to my Spotify account, which seems odd.

[jarmo]

I think it's automatically saved to your library once it's out.

Edited to add: Yes, it asks for that permission. So it can add the song to your library I guess.  You can check which apps have permissions to access your account if you login on to the Spotify web site and check your account there.





/jarmo

[thomas]

the studio version is still the same i really think we got 2 studio versions The General and Soul Monster but i was expecting The General be much more different like longer after all we did hear this song is a sequel to Estranged and i was talking about the soul monster leak

[jarmo]

Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group

The General · Guns N' Roses

The General

℗ 2023 Guns N' Roses, under exclusive license to Geffen Records

Released on: 2023-12-08

Producer, Associated  Performer, Vocals: Axl Rose
Producer, Studio  Personnel, Mixer, Engineer, Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Caram Costanzo
Associated  Performer, Drum: Bryan Mantia
Associated  Performer, Background  Vocalist, Bass: Duff McKagan
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Slash
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Richard Fortus
Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Dizzy Reed
Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Chris Pitman
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Marc Haggard
Associated  Performer, Strings: Marco Beltrami
A&R: Nick Groff
A&R  Coordinator: Michele Ronzon
Studio  Personnel, Additional  Engineer: Eric Caudieux
Composer  Lyricist: Guns N' Roses



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35IMLsf54oI



/jarmo

[pilferk]

Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group

The General · Guns N' Roses

The General

℗ 2023 Guns N' Roses, under exclusive license to Geffen Records

Released on: 2023-12-08

Producer, Associated  Performer, Vocals: Axl Rose
Producer, Studio  Personnel, Mixer, Engineer, Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Caram Costanzo
Associated  Performer, Drum: Bryan Mantia
Associated  Performer, Background  Vocalist, Bass: Duff McKagan
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Slash
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Richard Fortus
Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Dizzy Reed
Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Chris Pitman
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Marc Haggard
Associated  Performer, Strings: Marco Beltrami
A&R: Nick Groff
A&R  Coordinator: Michele Ronzon
Studio  Personnel, Additional  Engineer: Eric Caudieux
Composer  Lyricist: Guns N' Roses



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mILNw1MDhlQ



/jarmo

Unavailable for me...but I'm thinking that will change once we get to tomorrow.

[jarmo]

Yeah, it's put in New Zealand at the moment. Australia coming soon.

Midnight local time.





/jarmo

[Oliver]

the studio version is still the same i really think we got 2 studio versions The General and Soul Monster but i was expecting The General be much more different like longer after all we did hear this song is a sequel to Estranged and i was talking about the soul monster leak

Blame Baz for all this hype!

[MrMojoRa]

the studio version is still the same i really think we got 2 studio versions The General and Soul Monster but i was expecting The General be much more different like longer after all we did hear this song is a sequel to Estranged and i was talking about the soul monster leak

Blame Baz for all this hype!

Blame? The General is PHENOMENAL! If you combine The General & Monsters they are EPIC and on par with Estranged. Yeah, yeah.....my opinion.....yours weighs no more than mine.


The dropping of the ball, and I do mean a dropping of the ball of epic proportions......is to just release TG as a flip-side, a "hey, here's Perhaps and this other thing", and not release TG & Monsters together as one EP. Whomever leaked these 2 together gets it.


THE GENERAL & MONSTERS
G- The General
R- Monsters


I thought this was all the band's decision, but have since learned this may all be in the hands of UMG. So, whomever made this decision is not fit for the duty of deciding what's best for music releases for this band. It's still the same old BS that's been going on since 2004...or 6...or whenever CD was originally ready for release before somebody decided to keep fucking with it.....recording over shit when Bucket left....or was fired....or whatever particular piece of GN'R drama that mess falls into.


But the average non-obsessed GN'R fan isn't going to give a fuck, I get that.


Play these 2 songs back-to-back for people driving in their cars and their gonna forget their troubles for 9 solid minutes.


They are haunting, catchy....Axl sings from the center of his being. He whines, he rages, he pushes back.....and in the end of both those masterpieces, he's says fuck-it......you can have your demonic shit.....I'm moving on.

[Oliver]

Blame? The General is PHENOMENAL! If you combine The General & Monsters they are EPIC and on par with Estranged. Yeah, yeah.....my opinion.....yours weighs no more than mine.

Oh I totally agree with you, I love the song.

[MrMojoRa]

Blame? The General is PHENOMENAL! If you combine The General & Monsters they are EPIC and on par with Estranged. Yeah, yeah.....my opinion.....yours weighs no more than mine.

Oh I totally agree with you, I love the song.

 


The General is the brainstorm of Brain and my guess is that Monsters is as well.

[thomas]

the studio version is still the same i really think we got 2 studio versions The General and Soul Monster but i was expecting The General be much more different like longer after all we did hear this song is a sequel to Estranged and i was talking about the soul monster leak

Blame Baz for all this hype!

don't get me wrong i do love The General like the 4 studio songs

[GNR4LIFEJD]

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The General · Guns N' Roses

The General

℗ 2023 Guns N' Roses, under exclusive license to Geffen Records

Released on: 2023-12-08

Producer, Associated  Performer, Vocals: Axl Rose
Producer, Studio  Personnel, Mixer, Engineer, Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Caram Costanzo
Associated  Performer, Drum: Bryan Mantia
Associated  Performer, Background  Vocalist, Bass: Duff McKagan
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Slash
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Richard Fortus
Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Dizzy Reed
Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Chris Pitman
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Marc Haggard
Associated  Performer, Strings: Marco Beltrami
A&R: Nick Groff
A&R  Coordinator: Michele Ronzon
Studio  Personnel, Additional  Engineer: Eric Caudieux
Composer  Lyricist: Guns N' Roses



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mILNw1MDhlQ



/jarmo

Can someone tell me who Marc Haggard is? Its very interesting to me that the song which has slash and duff on it which makes sense and credits are given to Brain and Chris Pitman. Why did they leave Frank and Melissa off and not let them re record?  did none of the previous guitarists Buckethead, Finck, Bumblefoot have any contribution to these songs as well?

[rebelhipi]

Cant stop playing it!

[D-GenerationX]

Ugh.  Can't say this one will be going in heavy rotation.

The music is pretty good.  But the vocals recorded underwater?  What the fuck?

[MrMojoRa]

Cant stop playing it!

Same.

[PermissionToLand]

Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group

The General · Guns N' Roses

The General

℗ 2023 Guns N' Roses, under exclusive license to Geffen Records

Released on: 2023-12-08

Producer, Associated  Performer, Vocals: Axl Rose
Producer, Studio  Personnel, Mixer, Engineer, Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Caram Costanzo
Associated  Performer, Drum: Bryan Mantia
Associated  Performer, Background  Vocalist, Bass: Duff McKagan
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Slash
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Richard Fortus
Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Dizzy Reed
Associated  Performer, Keyboards: Chris Pitman
Associated  Performer, Guitar: Marc Haggard
Associated  Performer, Strings: Marco Beltrami
A&R: Nick Groff
A&R  Coordinator: Michele Ronzon
Studio  Personnel, Additional  Engineer: Eric Caudieux
Composer  Lyricist: Guns N' Roses



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mILNw1MDhlQ



/jarmo

Put in a word for me that we'd like Bob Ludwig to do the mastering from now on.

[gunns1]

Ok here's my thoughts.

Extremely underwhelming track, vocals are fine up until 0:50, then it sounds like Axl's recording microphones were placed in the shower while axl was singing in the room next door, then it progressively gets worse at 1:06 where the lyrics are completely inaudible, apart from "Time to forget" and this is coming from someone who's english is their first and only language.

Extremely disappointing track, feels very disjointed, and you can tell Slash's talk box component and the overuse of 'wah' guitar  was just cut and pasted to include him on the track to keep him happy / band morale good, this is extremely unfitting.

I give it a 4.5 to 5/10. I'm disappointed.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Another rough one.  Oof.