The General being released (perhaps B-side)

[Vezara]

I give it a 4/10. It feels disjointed, lack of structure. Also more an idea than a song. A bit repetitive.
I like the screaming but that's about it.

Its pretty hard to say one way or another without decent vocals.

Axl's live vocals on the few I've seen are just dreadful.  Like, 'There Was A Time' live caliber bad, I'm talking.

I like the song, especially the chorus (he sang that pretty well all things considered). My only "issue" is that the song seems incomplete. There's only one verse, one chorus, and one refrain that's repeated. That's it. This song has been around for how many years and this is all that's there? This is supposed to be the follow up to Estranged (a lyrical masterpiece) and there's only one verse? Same can be said for Perhaps and HardSkool.

I thought that This I Love was the follow up to Estranged....
I really like both Monster and The General. But all I've heard about The General (prior to the leak) is that it was S. Bach's favorite among all the songs he has heard. I think that is where the hype about the song originates. Ok, there is also the part with the added orchestra, that got people exited. It should be judged as any other song... give it time to be heard.
I think the true experience of all these new songs will be when we get the full album. Hard school, Absurd, Perhaps all make more sense when I combine it with The General, Monster, State of Grace, or whatever else is waiting to see the light of day.
During the UYI hay days people hardly talked about Estranged and Coma when they had huge songs such as: Don't Cry, November Rain, KOHD, Civil War etc.

[Oliver]

I think the true experience of all these new songs will be when we get the full album.

Full album?

[Vezara]

I think the true experience of all these new songs will be when we get the full album.

Full album?

Well the CD follow up, in whatever form that might be...

[kyrie]

Update on the CD situation:

It doesn't appear Universal Music Japan ships internationally, and Amazon Japan doesn't have Perhaps listed yet. HMV Japan says it's restricted for export and can't ship Perhaps overseas. There are other retailers carrying it and some of them will ship. If anyone needs advice, inbox me. Not sure if they're supposed to be shipping this abroad or not, but frankly the day it comes out Ebay will be flooded with copies, a lot of which will likely be fake. Might as well make sure the money gets to the band.

[thomas]

according to blabbermouth the song is out i think this is a messed up https://blabbermouth.net/news/duff-mckagan-names-his-favorite-guns-n-roses-songs-to-perform

[MrMojoRa]

The General has been up-loaded and is parked on Spotify.


So....midnight tonight most likely....


ARTWORK:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143985060022861855/1179887884451450943/1701377291978_f758eb9f86de409e931302ccbbc846d9.png?ex=657b6b38&is=6568f638&hm=236961dd563847e127ca022547fcfcb1421a928f7262b9a8760d1c79ceb4a76e&

[thomas]

The General has been up-loaded and is parked on Spotify.


So....midnight tonight most likely....


ARTWORK:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143985060022861855/1179887884451450943/1701377291978_f758eb9f86de409e931302ccbbc846d9.png?ex=657b6b38&is=6568f638&hm=236961dd563847e127ca022547fcfcb1421a928f7262b9a8760d1c79ceb4a76e&

or next friday

[MrMojoRa]

The General has been up-loaded and is parked on Spotify.


So....midnight tonight most likely....


ARTWORK:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143985060022861855/1179887884451450943/1701377291978_f758eb9f86de409e931302ccbbc846d9.png?ex=657b6b38&is=6568f638&hm=236961dd563847e127ca022547fcfcb1421a928f7262b9a8760d1c79ceb4a76e&

or next friday

Yeah, possible, although PERHAPS was uploaded and parked 6 to 8 hours before it debuted on Spotify.


EDITED to Add: I'm in the US, and a friend over in Europe said it's still not available 5 past Midnight, so UGH!

At least we'll get it by next Friday which is HUGE since it has been a mystery whether or not it was getting a digital release.

I'm starting to wonder if those managing this band enjoy fucking with the hardcore fans.

[thomas]

The General has been up-loaded and is parked on Spotify.


So....midnight tonight most likely....


ARTWORK:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143985060022861855/1179887884451450943/1701377291978_f758eb9f86de409e931302ccbbc846d9.png?ex=657b6b38&is=6568f638&hm=236961dd563847e127ca022547fcfcb1421a928f7262b9a8760d1c79ceb4a76e&

or next friday

Yeah, possible, although PERHAPS was uploaded and parked 6 to 8 hours before it debuted on Spotify.


EDITED to Add: I'm in the US, and a friend over in Europe said it's still not available 5 past Midnight, so UGH!

At least we'll get it by next Friday which is HUGE since it has been a mystery whether or not it was getting a digital release.

I'm starting to wonder if those managing this band enjoy fucking with the hardcore fans.

good point

[jarmo]

I'm starting to wonder if those managing this band enjoy fucking with the hardcore fans.

Not everything has to do with the ones managing the band.

I'm sure some think management ships out merchandise from the warehouse, posts on the band's social media, uploads tracks to streaming services and prints tickets to shows, but that's not reality. 

The band licenses their music to released by Geffen/Universal Music. See, Perhaps: © 2023 Guns N' Roses, under exclusive license to Geffen Records



/jarmo

[MrMojoRa]

The General has been up-loaded and is parked on Spotify.


So....midnight tonight most likely....


ARTWORK:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143985060022861855/1179887884451450943/1701377291978_f758eb9f86de409e931302ccbbc846d9.png?ex=657b6b38&is=6568f638&hm=236961dd563847e127ca022547fcfcb1421a928f7262b9a8760d1c79ceb4a76e&

or next friday

Next Friday it is.

Apparently.

Hopefully 

[otgm]

I for one think that it's kinda fucked up that the guys have been back "together" for over 7 years and they still haven't released ANY new material... instead all the releases are leftovers from CD. They always like to tell in interviews that they're going to write and release new music, but I don't think they actually even intend to. And listen, I don't think they HAVE TO write or release new stuff, they really don't - they're all financially sound by keeping this never ending nostalgia tour going. They don't owe anything to no one, but one can still wish...

[jarmo]

Would you rather have songs released in 2021 and 2023, or nothing and then "new" songs in for example 2025?

This really isn't different from GN'R recording songs like Reckless Life or November Rain. Songs that existed before the band had even formed.




/jarmo

[Erick]

I still have hope for an entire album, why the hell did Monster leak if they had no intention of releasing it during the tour?
Clearly this came from some studio access with finished songs

[Oliver]

How many Fridays left?

[jarmo]

How many Fridays left?

Ships on December 8, 2023



/jarmo

[Oliver]

How many Fridays left?

Ships on December 8, 2023



/jarmo

I was referring to Erick's comment about an entire album.

[jarmo]

LOL. Ok.

I'm focusing on the next Friday! 


/jarmo

[MrMojoRa]

THE GENERAL & MONSTERS combined have the potential to be the 21st Century's Eruption/You Really Got me.....and/or.....We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions.

(Couldn't think of any other song combos that go together like Rice & Soy Sauce and Chicken & Fingers )


Wishful thinking based on the leaks. Even if The General is the only flip-side song to Perhaps, they really should release these 2 songs together on streaming platforms.

I've got 5 kids ranging from ages 30 down to 10. I feel VERY STRONGLY these young adults/kids would get into these 2 songs. They are so catchy. GN'R would open their catalog to a whole new generation(s). Perhaps was a great start but those 2 songs are FUCKING AMAZING!!!

THEY GO TOGETHER!!!

[Oliver]

Preview on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0hVcsoorCv/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng%3D%3D