The General being released (perhaps B-side)

[DAVE ROCK]

Both songs are growing on me. I prefer Monsters but both are great. Anyway I think this lineup will shine the moment they focus on writtin new stuff instead of rework songs written by Fink, Brain, Stinson...
Slash and Duff are both excellent writers. I Want to listen to genuine Slash riff back in Guns.

And I still think they should get a rock drummer

[Bodhi]

And I still think they should get a rock drummer

How is the guy who’s been behind the drums of Guns N Roses for over 17 years not a rock drummer?  Genuine question, what don’t you like about Franks playing ?

[GNR4LIFEJD]

Both songs are growing on me. I prefer Monsters but both are great. Anyway I think this lineup will shine the moment they focus on writtin new stuff instead of rework songs written by Fink, Brain, Stinson...
Slash and Duff are both excellent writers. I Want to listen to genuine Slash riff back in Guns.

And I still think they should get a rock drummer

If you know GNR history you know every album has grown and changed in sound you obviously start with AFD then lies is part live album part ep. UYI was a big direction change from AFD. Ill exclude TSI since its covers but then Chinese Democracy was as big a change in sound from UYI then UYI was from AFD sound. I would guess any future album release would be more in line with CD sound but im sure will be vastly different as well. It will be interesting hearing slash now with modern day axl vocals since this aint the 90s anymore.

[DAVE ROCK]

And I still think they should get a rock drummer

How is the guy who’s been behind the drums of Guns N Roses for over 17 years not a rock drummer?  Genuine question, what don’t you like about Franks playing ?

In my opinion Brain or Frank are not hard rock drummers. Their style is more Nu metal, even funky or hip hop players. They are both great drummers but when you listen to CD era songs the kind of beats and loops you find there are not hard rock at all. They fit in a funky-hip hop-nu metal act, not a hard Rock Band like GNR
I guess that change was something intentional for Axl but I really doubt Slash or Duff really want that instead of a drummer like Sorum, John Tempesta, Matt Laugh, Josh Freese or any other hard rock drummer.
I want to see how this evolve once they focus on completely new songs written by this lineup. Wanna see how Frank or Brain adapt to Slash or Duff riffs and songs

[Wooody]

And I still think they should get a rock drummer

How is the guy who’s been behind the drums of Guns N Roses for over 17 years not a rock drummer?  Genuine question, what don’t you like about Franks playing ?

In my opinion Brain or Frank are not hard rock drummers. Their style is more Nu metal, even funky or hip hop players. They are both great drummers but when you listen to CD era songs the kind of beats and loops you find there are not hard rock at all. They fit in a funky-hip hop-nu metal act, not a hard Rock Band like GNR
I guess that change was something intentional for Axl but I really doubt Slash or Duff really want that instead of a drummer like Sorum, John Tempesta, Matt Laugh, Josh Freese or any other hard rock drummer.
I want to see how this evolve once they focus on completely new songs written by this lineup. Wanna see how Frank or Brain adapt to Slash or Duff riffs and songs

Nu metal is soooo far off.  Those beats and loops do not come from them anyway.

[DAVE ROCK]

And I still think they should get a rock drummer

How is the guy who’s been behind the drums of Guns N Roses for over 17 years not a rock drummer?  Genuine question, what don’t you like about Franks playing ?

In my opinion Brain or Frank are not hard rock drummers. Their style is more Nu metal, even funky or hip hop players. They are both great drummers but when you listen to CD era songs the kind of beats and loops you find there are not hard rock at all. They fit in a funky-hip hop-nu metal act, not a hard Rock Band like GNR
I guess that change was something intentional for Axl but I really doubt Slash or Duff really want that instead of a drummer like Sorum, John Tempesta, Matt Laugh, Josh Freese or any other hard rock drummer.
I want to see how this evolve once they focus on completely new songs written by this lineup. Wanna see how Frank or Brain adapt to Slash or Duff riffs and songs

Nu metal is soooo far off.   Those beats and loops do not come from them anyway.

Brain is by far more nu metal or funky metal than hard rock

[Wooody]

And I still think they should get a rock drummer

How is the guy who’s been behind the drums of Guns N Roses for over 17 years not a rock drummer?  Genuine question, what don’t you like about Franks playing ?

In my opinion Brain or Frank are not hard rock drummers. Their style is more Nu metal, even funky or hip hop players. They are both great drummers but when you listen to CD era songs the kind of beats and loops you find there are not hard rock at all. They fit in a funky-hip hop-nu metal act, not a hard Rock Band like GNR
I guess that change was something intentional for Axl but I really doubt Slash or Duff really want that instead of a drummer like Sorum, John Tempesta, Matt Laugh, Josh Freese or any other hard rock drummer.
I want to see how this evolve once they focus on completely new songs written by this lineup. Wanna see how Frank or Brain adapt to Slash or Duff riffs and songs

Nu metal is soooo far off.  Those beats and loops do not come from them anyway.

Brain is by far more nu metal than hard rock

Keep saying it, it might come true one day.

[DAVE ROCK]

Do you consider Brain style Hard Rock?
How would you describe his style then?

[Wooody]

Do you consider Brain style Hard Rock?
How would you describe his style then?

Influences of industrial and jazz, still within the rock spectrum. Definitely not Limp Bizkit and Korn territory.

[Guitar1281]

IDK. I'm very excited about the direction of Monsters/General. The groove is something I wanted but didn't expect and they still go heavy and more straightforward in parts. Whoever is drumming on it throws down at points. Monsters has some excellent dual guitar work in it. I especially like the parts under the part where Axl screams. Duff and Slash are indeed excellent writers and it shows in the background parts of all of the four songs that have been released recently. Due credit belongs to the CD-era band for creating the framework for these songs but I've been digging the spin the current lineup has placed on those songs.

[DAVE ROCK]

Do you consider Brain style Hard Rock?
How would you describe his style then?

Influences of industrial and jazz, still within the rock spectrum. Definitely not Limp Bizkit and Korn territory.

Agree on that. Maybe I should say industrial instead of Nu-Metal

Anyway I see Brain style closer to Ray Lucier's than Sorum, Tempesta or any other hard rock drummer

[ItsoEezee]

Have there been any reports/rumors on why the band has not released an album or at least a Lies-type EP since 2016? 

The way they've been working well together and getting along on the tours (as far as we know), it would not surprise me if the band simply released 1 or 2 songs every couple years and toured every couple years and that's it until they all die (don't fix what ain't broke).  No album.  No EP.  Just a collection of singles and B-sides.  Maybe a compilation album in 10 or 15 more years that compiles all the random released songs.

[kyrie]

Have there been any reports/rumors on why the band has not released an album or at least a Lies-type EP since 2016? 

The way they've been working well together and getting along on the tours (as far as we know), it would not surprise me if the band simply released 1 or 2 songs every couple years and toured every couple years and that's it until they all die (don't fix what ain't broke).  No album.  No EP.  Just a collection of singles and B-sides.  Maybe a compilation album in 10 or 15 more years that compiles all the random released songs.

Publishing rights has been one source of speculation.

[Erick]

The interesting thing is that precisely songs that Slash and Duff recorded were leaked. only The General will be on vinyl correct? In other words, there may be more music leaked from Monster that wasn't on the release radar until now

[Wooody]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqRVLPwJcw8

[kyrie]

The interesting thing is that precisely songs that Slash and Duff recorded were leaked. only The General will be on vinyl correct? In other words, there may be more music leaked from Monster that wasn't on the release radar until now

Wouldn't be so sure. They seem like two sides of the same coin, and the writing credits being "The General and Monsters" makes it seem like they might both be on there. But we'll find out in December I guess.

[Wooody]

I didn't know writing a good song was so hard for them. 

[Erick]

Monster is top song .
I liked The General, I loved the entire CD lol.

 Axl did a great job with musicians of different styles, for me he is a great producer and very brave to walk through different styles and still sound like Guns n Roses

[Mattgnr]

Both songs have grown on me.  The thing is, only big GnR fans will give the songs the chance to grow, the average listener will not, so I'm expecting poor/average reviews for these songs.  Whether that matters or not is a different story...

[Spirit]

Both songs have grown on me.  The thing is, only big GnR fans will give the songs the chance to grow, the average listener will not, so I'm expecting poor/average reviews for these songs.  Whether that matters or not is a different story...

If released, I think Monsters have the potential of being the song that people will like right off the bat. The verses are cool, the chorus is somewhat catchy, and then you have the - in my opinion - greatest vocal performance of Axl in the past 30 years during the bridge (or whatever that is called).