The General being released (perhaps B-side)

[jarmo]

After much back and forth, we are finally content with the quality of the Perhaps/The General vinyl. We are sorry it pushes the release to December 8.




/jarmo

[kyrie]

Well. So The General and Monsters are two separate tracks which makes the single entry in the composers database kind of odd.

I don't know what to make of The General. Not what I expected. Clearly very personal

Monsters is really really good and hopefully will forever shut up the crowd who claimed the vault was empty or nothing had lyrics.

[younggunner]

My only critiques are the mix for both songs in certain spots and wish the "2006 tour intro" was more prominently used.

[kyrie]

My only critiques are the mix for both songs in certain spots and wish the "2006 tour intro" was more prominently used.

Am I right in hearing that "tour intro" (which I believe was Beltrami) in both songs?

These feel like two sides of a coin. Thematically and musically. But they also feel like distinct songs. I dunno. Tool does this stuff (Parabol / Parabola).

[younggunner]

My only critiques are the mix for both songs in certain spots and wish the "2006 tour intro" was more prominently used.

Am I right in hearing that "tour intro" (which I believe was Beltrami) in both songs?

These feel like two sides of a coin. Thematically and musically. But they also feel like distinct songs. I dunno. Tool does this stuff (Parabol / Parabola).

The orchestration piece is in the general. And also in Monsters, so yes. There is a verse in monsters that most thought was the general ( from the evader take) .
I think this could be one song w the right production but probably better as a two piece

[kyrie]

My only critiques are the mix for both songs in certain spots and wish the "2006 tour intro" was more prominently used.

Am I right in hearing that "tour intro" (which I believe was Beltrami) in both songs?

These feel like two sides of a coin. Thematically and musically. But they also feel like distinct songs. I dunno. Tool does this stuff (Parabol / Parabola).

The orchestration piece is in the general. There is a verse in monsters that most thought was the general ( from the evader take) .
I think this could be one song w the right production but probably better as a two piece

I swear I hear the orchestration in both. It's definitely in there around the 0:55 to 1:05 mark in The General.
Then very early in Monsters, like 10 seconds in... sounds like part of the old concert intro Axl had hinted was part of The General.

I agree, like this as a two piece. It's almost like one song became two.

[younggunner]

Yes, the intro piece makes an appearance in both. More prominent in The General

[MrMojoRa]

It makes sense to me that Monsters rolls into The General as one track.


EDITED TO ADD: Truly incredible songs, both of them. So fucking haunting. I'm in awe of Axl to make it through this shit to become the greatest most talented lead vocalist of any band, all time.

[Erick]

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[AXLRIVERS]

If this has been the held back BIG GUN for a decade...then it's worrying

[younggunner]

If this has been the held back BIG GUN for a decade...then it's worrying

They aren't for the masses but perfect for the CD Era contingent

[kyrie]

If this has been the held back BIG GUN for a decade...then it's worrying

The General feels more personal and I don't think it would have mainstream appeal - but Monsters is catchy enough to work as a single.

[MrMojoRa]

THIS IS SOME MAGIC!


It has some Funk in it, it ALL OUT ROCKS.


This is 21St Century Pink Floyd I can't stop listening to this.


FUCK, This Is SWEET!!!

[thomas]

i truly believe The General is about axl because axl was abuse when he was a child

[MrMojoRa]

i truly believe The General is about axl because axl was abuse when he was a child

I agree.


It's Powerful.

[estebanf]

I loved ''The General''. It's dark, powerful, doomy, and has a catchy/aggresive chorus, with Axl's vocals at their best.

''Monsters'' sounds very good, and it's more radio friendly i think. With a potential for a single. Overall i prefer 'The General' but 'Monsters' has some devilish/ferocious Axl's vocals at the end, which are really impressive. One of the best Axl moments in the GNR song catalogue for sure.

What these 2 songs miss is a monster guitar-solo by Buckethead. That's a real pity.

[axlroses]

I love both of them…maybe now some people will come to the realization that maybe they actually do have a number of songs in the vault….I think Axl’s experience with Chinese made him cautious about releasing new stuff

[kyrie]

I love both of them…maybe now some people will come to the realization that maybe they actually do have a number of songs in the vault….I think Axl’s experience with Chinese made him cautious about releasing new stuff

Quite possibly. I honestly think GNR could have released Chinese Democracy as is, without a single note changed, with Slash and Duff in the band and it would have got a much warmer reception.

Anyways - Hard Skool, Perhaps, The General, Monsters, Absurd (the last one being my least favorite of the bunch) still could have been an EP, or half an album if Atlas Shrugged and State of Grace and a few others remain on the horizon. Really surprised these aren't getting a bigger release.

[slashsbaconpit]

Love these … they both have a what feels like a deeply personal, soul bearing quality.

[GNR4L]

This is great! Never once, did I think about canceling my order, when I received the email yesterday.