Ticket prices

[DeN]

prices for Paris, France :

Fosse - Debout Placement Libre: €89,50
Fosse Or - Debout Placement Libre: €122,50
Catégorie 4 Côté de Scène - Assis numéroté: €67,50
Catégorie 3 - Assis numéroté: €84,00
Catégorie 2 - Assis numéroté: €100,50
Catégorie 1 - Assis numéroté: €155,50
Catégorie Or - Assis numéroté: €177,50

(pardon my french  )

so yeah, very expensive

And compared to say Metallica?




/jarmo

I just checked, it's Stade de France

it's a two days package so we have to divide the prices by 2 if I'm correct 


SQUARE GOLD
€ 261.50
CATEGORY 1
€ 239.50
CATEGORY 2
€ 179.00
CATEGORY 3
€ 161.40
CATEGORY 4
€ 126.20
SNAKE PIT
€ 608.00
PITCH
€ 223.00

[jarmo]

But they sell one day tickets too. At least they did here. They first announced the two day tickets, and later put single day tickets on sale as well.




/jarmo

[DeN]

correct, found it :

Carré Or   
161.00 EUR

Catégorie 1   
150.00 EUR
Catégorie 2   
111.50 EUR
Catégorie 3
100.50 EUR
Catégorie 4
78.50
Pelouse
139.00 EUR

last time I saw GNR was in 2012, prices were around 50-70 euros.
well, Putin's and his stupid criminal war & inflation don't help I suppose.

[cineater]

I 'm mostly referring to the regular pit tickets. I don't really care about the VIP packages because, as you say you don't have to have them and personally I have bought the early entry only once. But what if you want to be close to the stage so that you can actually see something instead of looking at the screen? 400+ is still very expensive for the average person.

I'd like to be there too but not as much as I'd like to keep that money in my pocket.    Average people do average things, like whip out a piece of plastic and run their debt up on shit they shouldn't really be buying.

My point is that seeing your favorite band live shouldn't be a privilege for those with higher than average income. This is how it used to be. Check any video from the 90s from GnR or any other group and it's mostly young kids in front of the stage. They could afford to be there which would be unthinkable with today's prices ... No wonder that the pit in the US is haf empty.

From what I remember back in the day, if you wanted those up front seats you had to camp out over night and be first in line to buy tickets.  And if you didn't do that, you paid a scalper the higher price.  But going to a concert or even a sporting event has become a major expense for people.  It shouldn't be that way in my opinion either but it is.  People keep paying so it's not going to change.

I'm registering for every contest in town for tickets.     And betting there will be a price drop right before the show.  I may just pull the trigger before.  It's a night out with my daughter and that's priceless to me.  Wouldn't want to miss out on that.  Of course, it's my treat so I'm buying two tickets.

[guitarphix]

It’s what’s called dynamic pricing. If it doesn’t sell well and I really don’t think it will the prices will come down.  As far as I’m concerned it’s not a big deal for me I can certainly afford it. I just feel bad for the regular fans that don’t make a lot of money and it also makes it hard for the younger generation to afford these prices. I know jarmo was talking about Metallica but those shows have pretty much already sold out so it’s not a fair comparison. I do get though since he works for guns he feels the need to defend them

[Six Strings]

Just a comparison to my favorite football (soccer) team. Back in the days the tickets for a game were around 50/60 GBP. Nowadays they are around 100 GBP. Hell, from what people say in early 90's the tickets were around 20/30 GBP and yes, it was a shitty football and a shitty performance. People complained and still are that the tickets are expensive for the production they see but that's the way it is. That's why I don't think it's fair to blame the band here. Don't get me wrong, I do agree that it's a lot of money for a concert, football or pretty much any kind of ticket for major act but it's not the band to be blamed. Different times I guess, everything is much more expensive now than it used to before.

[DeN]

an interesting article about it :

https://financebuzz.com/price-of-concert-tickets-by-genre

Classic rock was the most expensive music genre to see live. On average, concert-goers paid $119.14 per ticket to see a classic rock performance. The second most expensive genre was pop at $100.65 per ticket.

Springsteen on Broadway tickets were the most expensive tickets on average in three different years, 2017 ($496.16), 2018 ($508.93), and 2019 ($506.39). Those were also the three most expensive overall ticket costs in the entire analysis.

Among the 800 tours analyzed, the most common genre was pop, with 137 tours (representing over 17% of all tours evaluated).

Pop concerts generated nearly $5.3 billion in total ticket sales over the last five years, averaging just over $38.6 million per tour. That makes pop the most lucrative genre in the analysis on both an overall and per-tour basis.

[jarmo]

Carré Or   
161.00 EUR

That versus Fosse Or - Debout Placement Libre: €122,50





/jarmo

[DeN]

Carré Or   
161.00 EUR

That versus Fosse Or - Debout Placement Libre: €122,50





/jarmo

yep that's a way better price. don't know how they justify such a difference, promoters? venues?

does Ticketmaster still has some kind of monopole? I don't know much about how that works these days, but I remember Pearl Jam fighting against it back in the days...not sure if 30 years after the situation is better...

[jarmo]

It's the music business. Everyone in the chain wants to make money. Venue, promoter, artist.

I guess some venues are more expensive than others. But at the end of the day, it's about what's available and what makes sense for everyone.




/jarmo

[AxlHBK]

It’s worse. Now, they own the resale market too. They own live nation. They own everything. They are such a monopoly they can get away with having basically no customer service (try finding a way to call them on the phone… you won’t be able to). They charge 25% fees to the buyer. On resale, they charge fees to both buyers and sellers.

It sucks.

[ItsoEezee]

For the Busch Stadium show in St. Louis, ALL available tix are "resale."  How is that even possible? 

[jarmo]

For the Busch Stadium show in St. Louis, ALL available tix are "resale."  How is that even possible? 

Because the tickets aren't sold through Ticketmaster. You have to go through MLB. Ticketmaster is only reselling tickets.

https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/tickets/concerts/guns-n-roses




/jarmo

[cineater]

Of course I posted in the wrong thread before.     I'm okay with the ticket prices for the area I wanted to be in, closer than I thought we'd be.  Even the kid was surprised and okay with it.

[PermissionToLand]

Congress just recently held hearings over Ticketmaster's monopolistic practices. This clip of a musician's testimony went pretty viral, if anyone hasn't seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIDcOqHYkfY

[crash_diet]

Well, for Athens, Greece tickets are from 55€ (seats in the stands, far away from the stage) to 165€ (Vip seats).
Of course, there are tickets as gold/silver VIP packages.
Arena is 88€ and there is no golden circle.
That s pretty fair. From what I hear, everybody were expecting much more expensive prices...

Olympic Stadium is a massive venue (75k seats), it was sold out back in 2010 for U2 's 360o tour, in the middle of the recession back then (more than 85k attended that gig).

Also, in 2011, Bon Jovi was sold out (+65k).
So, i m pretty sure that the GnR concert will be sold out too .. the worst case scenario is +50k tickets ...
With the current pricing, many people - not die hard fans - will attend the show, just because of the name of the band and the fair-to-cheap pricing..
22nd of July is Saturday, so Greek summer day and on weekend? I bet that it ll be the biggest night of the European tour  

[Natalie]

Well, for Athens, Greece tickets are from 55€ (seats in the stands, far away from the stage) to 165€ (Vip seats).
Of course, there are tickets as gold/silver VIP packages.
Arena is 88€ and there is no golden circle.
That s pretty fair. From what I hear, everybody were expecting much more expensive prices...

Olympic Stadium is a massive venue (75k seats), it was sold out back in 2010 for U2 's 360o tour, in the middle of the recession back then (more than 85k attended that gig).

Also, in 2011, Bon Jovi was sold out (+65k).
So, i m pretty sure that the GnR concert will be sold out too .. the worst case scenario is +50k tickets ...
With the current pricing, many people - not die hard fans - will attend the show, just because of the name of the band and the fair-to-cheap pricing..
22nd of July is Saturday, so Greek summer day and on weekend? I bet that it ll be the biggest night of the European tour  

I'm Greek but I live in the USA. The prices for Athens are indeed very good. And it's the only venue where the arena is not divided in pit etc
The prices here are X5.

[cineater]

We got tickets for St Louis, cheaper then the last time and closer to the stage.  Checked on what the cost would have been if it was a ball game and it would have been double the price.

[kyrie]

It’s what’s called dynamic pricing. If it doesn’t sell well and I really don’t think it will the prices will come down.  As far as I’m concerned it’s not a big deal for me I can certainly afford it. I just feel bad for the regular fans that don’t make a lot of money and it also makes it hard for the younger generation to afford these prices. I know jarmo was talking about Metallica but those shows have pretty much already sold out so it’s not a fair comparison. I do get though since he works for guns he feels the need to defend them

I have never seen dynamic pricing cause prices to come down. The whole concept is a scam. The prices spike when there is high demand but I believe promoters set a floor with TicketBastard to ensure they don't drop to next to nothing. True dynamic pricing would mean tickets could sell under face value.

I had tickets to the canceled Toronto date but there is no way I can justify paying these prices sadly. The one thing I'm hoping for is a promo code or some sort of discount down the line.

[PatrickS77]

prices for Paris, France :

Fosse - Debout Placement Libre: €89,50
Fosse Or - Debout Placement Libre: €122,50
Catégorie 4 Côté de Scène - Assis numéroté: €67,50
Catégorie 3 - Assis numéroté: €84,00
Catégorie 2 - Assis numéroté: €100,50
Catégorie 1 - Assis numéroté: €155,50
Catégorie Or - Assis numéroté: €177,50

(pardon my french  )

so yeah, very expensive

And compared to say Metallica?




/jarmo

155 € for 2 nights (in Gothenborg) with access right to the stage. Not FOS/GC bullshit, which for example in Switzerland, costs 220 €. Nevermind that Metallica has the Black ticket, which on their last tour cost around 700 and now is called I disappear, costs 1000 € and let's you attend every single show on a given tour leg including early entry. So, whenever you try to compare to Metallica, GNR will lose. Also on those 2 nights there will be 2 different setlists with no song played twice. It's no wonder though you would defend the GNR ticket prices, which frankly, have been a disgrace ever since the 3 got back together and are only offset by the fact that they give extremely long concerts.