Fortus interviewed on The Radical podcast

[PermissionToLand]

He says Slash and Duff struggled to gel with Frank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y9DH5V-u6U

[Wooody]

I think he meant musically speaking... I think you could hear it on the first few shows.

[(t)]

That was a good listen. Thanks.

[ITARocker]

He says Slash and Duff struggled to gel with Frank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y9DH5V-u6U

. Well nothin new... if u have ears u would notice it anyway. When i was in Imola in 2017I could hear a lot of mistakes, bad timing, bad fills... and i’m not even a Drum expert. Things got better some months After... but as much as i like frank as a person, i don’t think hes the right choice for gnr, even after all these years

[DeN]

according to Matt in his book Duff said to him Frank can't play, so that's no surprise.

[DeN]

just listened to it...

Nick : "he's a hell of a drummer"

that poorly convincing "hmm hmm" answer by Richard made me 

[Wooody]

He says Slash and Duff struggled to gel with Frank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y9DH5V-u6U

. Well nothin new... if u have ears u would notice it anyway. When i was in Imola in 2017I could hear a lot of mistakes, bad timing, bad fills... and i’m not even a Drum expert. Things got better some months After... but as much as i like frank as a person, i don’t think hes the right choice for gnr, even after all these years

I think he's nowhere near as skillful as brain, however I do think he has a more rock n roll groove than brain. Brain was almost like Buckethead, a virtuoso drummer, that you would see more in a progressive acid jazz band than GNR.

[PermissionToLand]

I don't know that groove is the word I'd use to describe Frank. Maybe a hip hop groove if anything. He does If The World well. In fact, I'd really love to hear that with Slash and Duff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-27Sd1aFyDk

Interesting to hear that they went to that last show in Mexico expecting the crowd to have masks. I thought at the time there must have been more to the story than we knew about that.

[ITARocker]

just listened to it...

Nick : "he's a hell of a drummer"

that poorly convincing "hmm hmm" answer by Richard made me 

in a sense, he could be right. It’s all about the kind of music you’re going to play.

[DeN]

he's probably cool as f and a solid drummer, but well, I've never had this "wow" effect
about his drumming, like I had with Brain who brings some special energy to the band,
like Robin did on guitar.

and I still don't really understand why Matt was discarded to be frank (no pun intended)

[jarmo]

and I still don't really understand why Matt was discarded to be frank (no pun intended)

Maybe when you look at his history, it becomes clearer?

Velvet Revolver - broke up.
The Cult - continued without him.

Then there was Camp Freddy, that turned into Royal Machines. Yeah, without Matt.

Fired from GN'R.






/jarmo

[ITARocker]

and I still don't really understand why Matt was discarded to be frank (no pun intended)

Maybe when you look at his history, it becomes clearer?

Velvet Revolver - broke up.
The Cult - continued without him.

Then there was Camp Freddy, that turned into Royal Machines. Yeah, without Matt.

Fired from GN'R.






/jarmo

yep i think matt is not the nicest guy in the world...Plus i think he’s still doing coke.

[rizzo160]

It's a shame because Matt is a much better drummer.

[DeN]

Maybe when you look at his history, it becomes clearer?

Velvet Revolver - broke up.
The Cult - continued without him.

Then there was Camp Freddy, that turned into Royal Machines. Yeah, without Matt.

Fired from GN'R.


/jarmo

I can't seriously think that Velvet Revolver split because of Matt, they fired
Scott Weiland because of his personal problems. at least that's what they said.

The Cult continued without him because he joined GNR, right? plus they reformed with
him around 2000...

and he quits Camp Freddy to do Kings Of Chaos with Duff & Gilby...

so I don't see some kind of narrative where Matt was very difficult to work with,
if it was really the case he wouldn't play with so much different people as Johnny
Depp, Glenn Hughes, Billy Gibbons, Joe Perry and so on.

I'm sure he has a big mouth and can be very direct where other people would avoid
confrontation but it doesn't explain to my point of view why he's not in GNR with the
other guys.

Axl & Slash worked out their differences, I don't understand why Axl & Matt didn't

[PermissionToLand]

I'm sure he has a big mouth and can be very direct where other people would avoid
confrontation but it doesn't explain to my point of view why he's not in GNR with the
other guys.

Axl & Slash worked out their differences, I don't understand why Axl & Matt didn't

Wouldn't that explain it though? Axl isn't exactly known for welcoming confrontation. Slash and Duff have always been laid back and avoid confrontation.

[jarmo]

I can't seriously think that Velvet Revolver split because of Matt, they fired
Scott Weiland because of his personal problems. at least that's what they said.

That's what they said, yes.

Their singer was not getting along with the drummer.

The Cult continued without him because he joined GNR, right? plus they reformed with
him around 2000...

He went back to The Cult and then they got back together again without him. They even opened for GN'R in 2016....

so I don't see some kind of narrative where Matt was very difficult to work with,
if it was really the case he wouldn't play with so much different people as Johnny
Depp, Glenn Hughes, Billy Gibbons, Joe Perry and so on.

It's one thing to work with people. It's something else to be a drummer in a band.

Axl & Slash worked out their differences, I don't understand why Axl & Matt didn't

Different people.


All I'm saying is, people are surprised this guy's not in the band anymore. I just listed examples of a guy who has had multiple bands implode while he was in them. And then continued without him.

So I'm not surprised.




/jarmo

[DAVE ROCK]

Maybe when you look at his history, it becomes clearer?

Velvet Revolver - broke up.
The Cult - continued without him.

Then there was Camp Freddy, that turned into Royal Machines. Yeah, without Matt.

Fired from GN'R.


/jarmo

I can't seriously think that Velvet Revolver split because of Matt, they fired
Scott Weiland because of his personal problems. at least that's what they said.

The Cult continued without him because he joined GNR, right? plus they reformed with
him around 2000...

and he quits Camp Freddy to do Kings Of Chaos with Duff & Gilby...

so I don't see some kind of narrative where Matt was very difficult to work with,
if it was really the case he wouldn't play with so much different people as Johnny
Depp, Glenn Hughes, Billy Gibbons, Joe Perry and so on.

I'm sure he has a big mouth and can be very direct where other people would avoid
confrontation but it doesn't explain to my point of view why he's not in GNR with the
other guys.

Axl & Slash worked out their differences, I don't understand why Axl & Matt didn't

you're right man

and yes, he is a much better drummer than Frank

[COMAMOTIVE]

I've never really listened to FF and thought the drumming stood out in any way.

[DeN]

Their singer was not getting along with the drummer.

sure thing, it's public, and they found a way to made peace before Scott's death which is cool.

but it was the case with the other guys too, I mean, Slash & Duff didn't get along well with Scott
and his drug addiction kinda fucked up the whole project (well to be honest Matt was using too,
Slash was drinking again and Duff was on pills).

my point is, if Matt was the problem in this band Slash & Duff would have fired him instead of
firing Scott, who is way more famous and was the face and the voice of the band..

[DeN]

and I won't say Matt is a better drummer than Frank which is harsh and maybe
not true I'm not a drummer myself and can't judge the technic but in my opinion
for this particular band Matt is a better choice in terms of sound and feeling.

(best choice is still Brain and I regret his departure like a lot of people I suppose)