Shadow of your love video - tour edition

[allwaystired]

Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear  exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all.

I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven).

Sounds like the same technique and timing to me.

I think Steven's mistaken.

So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City?

And I want to clarify why 'live' is in quotes here.  I don't think its really a live recording.  I think it's a studio recording with overdubbed crowd noise added in.

I might be wrong....I'll leave it to the experts/jarmo to comment one way or the other. But I'd love to know the genesis of where it was recorded, if it's really live!

I assumed (given it's placing on the disc) that it's as 'live' as the tracks on Lies/Live Like A Suicide are. Maybe part of the same session, given the same 'live crowd sounds'  treatment, and left off?

[allwaystired]

I think Stevens problem in all this is that....honestly...he's never heard the audio sound so good from those sessions.

To me, listening to the 3 versions...the technique, cadence, beat....it's all the same "fingerprint".

But the drums on the single version SOUND 100x better...they're just cleaner and more distinct.  I think that's what's throwing him off, honestly.

"I never recorded that track" is, I think, coming from "I never heard my track sound that good before".

Drugs may have something to do with what has thrown him off too of course....

[Steve McKagan]

Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear  exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all.

I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven).

Sounds like the same technique and timing to me.

I think Steven's mistaken.

So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City?

And I want to clarify why 'live' is in quotes here.  I don't think its really a live recording.  I think it's a studio recording with overdubbed crowd noise added in.

I might be wrong....I'll leave it to the experts/jarmo to comment one way or the other. But I'd love to know the genesis of where it was recorded, if it's really live!

I assumed (given it's placing on the disc) that it's as 'live' as the tracks on Lies/Live Like A Suicide are. Maybe part of the same session, given the same 'live crowd sounds'  treatment, and left off?

The fake live version was a b-side on the 12" It's so easy single. It was also included on the japanese Guns N' Roses EP. I think it's an outtake from Live Like A Suicide.

[reayj2003]

This sounds way different to any of the other demos on the disc. Also has the lead guitar riff ever been on any other versions?

I’m thinking Steven is correct.

[Bridge]

I think Stevens problem is that.... "I never recorded that track" is, I think, coming from "I never heard my track sound that good before".

This sounds way different to any of the other demos on the disc. Also has the lead guitar riff ever been on any other versions?

The guitar is also what threw me off at first too.  Although I think Pilferk has a point about the remastered version sounding unrecognizable which could be the issue, because it was an issue to me as well.  So I don't know what to think.

I definitely miss Axl's "Wake Up!  It's Time to Play!" intro that was on the original demo!   

[imsorry]

u can hear the guitar riff on 1987 06 22 marquee

[zombux]

you guys should also throw in the mix one particular version: the one from Roots of GN'R by Hollywood Rose, more specifically Gilby Clarke's remix, which has additional guitar by Tracii Guns (not original, it was added later, supposedly when they were preparing the album before its 2004 release). the confusion is now complete