Shadow of your love video - tour edition

[izzyjim]

Cool video, footage from the recent tour, audio is studio version

https://youtu.be/0RizLhYFpac

[HBK]

 

[reayj2003]

So who is playing on this? It doesn’t sound like a demo.

Has it been worked on??

[Bridge]

So who is playing on this? It doesn’t sound like a demo.

Has it been worked on??

Steven Adler has claimed this new version is re-recorded, and that someone else is playing drums. 

Here's Steven's interview; it starts out with him talking about his next shows, and ends with him commenting on "Shadow of Your Love".

https://gnrcentral.com/2018/05/18/steven-adler-thinks-guns-n-roses-newly-released-version-of-shadow-of-your-love-is-re-recorded-audio/

[izzyjim]

[jarmo]

Steven Adler has claimed this new version is re-recorded, and that someone else is playing drums.  It definitely sounds like it's been re-recorded; the drums are missing Steven's swing, and Slash's guitar work is almost obviously redone.  I prefer the original demo, even if the new recording is "cleaner".

This was never released. Listen to any of the tracks released so far and they sound great compared to any of the bootlegs.

Sounds more like they took the time to actually properly transfer the tapes, mix and master the tracks to today's standards....



/jarmo

[imsorry]

i think him didnt noticed it cuz its triggered with samples i recongnize CLA samples from miles of distance great work as usually, hope he can work more with GN'R for the future.

[reayj2003]

Steven Adler has claimed this new version is re-recorded, and that someone else is playing drums.  It definitely sounds like it's been re-recorded; the drums are missing Steven's swing, and Slash's guitar work is almost obviously redone.  I prefer the original demo, even if the new recording is "cleaner".

This was never released. Listen to any of the tracks released so far and they sound great compared to any of the bootlegs.

Sounds more like they took the time to actually properly transfer the tapes, mix and master the tracks to today's standards....



/jarmo

But the “Jungle” demo we’ve heard sounds nothing like this.
Why don’t you just ask Frank if it’s him playing drums Jarmo?

[allwaystired]

It's weird how absolutely adamant Steven is that it's not him playing. Could he simply be mistaken? Possible.

[jarmo]

To me it makes little sense to have Frank drumming on a track recorded in 1986.....




/jarmo

[allwaystired]

To me it makes little sense to have Frank drumming on a track recorded in 1986.....




/jarmo

Only reason to re-record I think would be if the drums hadn't been recorded properly in the first place, or 'cleaning up' wasn't possible for some reason. I honestly think we'd know about though if Frank had recorded them.

I'm going for Steven's memory not being perhaps as good as it should be....

[Spirit]

Steven Adler has claimed this new version is re-recorded, and that someone else is playing drums.  It definitely sounds like it's been re-recorded; the drums are missing Steven's swing, and Slash's guitar work is almost obviously redone.  I prefer the original demo, even if the new recording is "cleaner".

This was never released. Listen to any of the tracks released so far and they sound great compared to any of the bootlegs.

Sounds more like they took the time to actually properly transfer the tapes, mix and master the tracks to today's standards....



/jarmo

But the “Jungle” demo we’ve heard sounds nothing like this.
Why don’t you just ask Frank if it’s him playing drums Jarmo?

Different studios, different sessions.

Recording technique probably different.

[PermissionToLand]

So who is playing on this? It doesn’t sound like a demo.

Has it been worked on??

Steven Adler has claimed this new version is re-recorded, and that someone else is playing drums.  It definitely sounds like it's been re-recorded; the drums are missing Steven's swing, and Slash's guitar work is almost obviously redone.  I prefer the original demo, even if the new recording is "cleaner".

Here's Steven's interview; it starts out with him talking about his next shows, and ends with him commenting on "Shadow of Your Love".

https://gnrcentral.com/2018/05/18/steven-adler-thinks-guns-n-roses-newly-released-version-of-shadow-of-your-love-is-re-recorded-audio/

Uh, Fernando already confirmed that nothing was re-recorded.

[ITARocker]

Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear  exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all.

[pilferk]

Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear  exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all.

I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven).

Sounds like the same technique and timing to me.

I think Steven's mistaken.

[allwaystired]

Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear  exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all.

I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven).

Sounds like the same technique and timing to me.

I think Steven's mistaken.

So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City?

[jarmo]

Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear  exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all.

I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven).

Sounds like the same technique and timing to me.

I think Steven's mistaken.

So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City?

The single is the one recorded with Mike Clink.




/jarmo

[pilferk]

Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear  exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all.

I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven).

Sounds like the same technique and timing to me.

I think Steven's mistaken.

So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City?

And I want to clarify why 'live' is in quotes here.  I don't think its really a live recording.  I think it's a studio recording with overdubbed crowd noise added in.

I might be wrong....I'll leave it to the experts/jarmo to comment one way or the other. But I'd love to know the genesis of where it was recorded, if it's really live!

[pilferk]

I think Stevens problem in all this is that....honestly...he's never heard the audio sound so good from those sessions.

To me, listening to the 3 versions...the technique, cadence, beat....it's all the same "fingerprint".

But the drums on the single version SOUND 100x better...they're just cleaner and more distinct.  I think that's what's throwing him off, honestly.

"I never recorded that track" is, I think, coming from "I never heard my track sound that good before".

[allwaystired]

Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear  exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all.

I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven).

Sounds like the same technique and timing to me.

I think Steven's mistaken.

So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City?

The single is the one recorded with Mike Clink.




/jarmo

Great - thanks!