London, UK, June 17th 2017

[GypsySoul]

Setlist (so far) from Jarmo:

SET: It?s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Welcome To The Jungle, Double Talkin? Jive, Better, Estranged, Live And Let Die, Rocket Queen, You Could Be Mine, You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory/New Rose, This I Love, Civil War, Happy Birthday (to the Queen), Yesterdays, Coma, Band Intros, Slash Solo (Godfather)/Sweet Child O' Mine, Out Ta Get Me, Wish You Were Here/Layla/November Rain, Black Hole Sun, Only Women Bleed (instrumental)/Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Nightrain



guess the show is over

Guns N' Roses‏@gunsnroses
Two nights were better than one...
Thank you London! 🇬🇧
#GNRinLondon

[TheBaconman]

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

[allwaystired]

Encore:

Don't Cry
Rosie
Paradise City

[GypsySoul]

Why has Black Hole Sun been moved again. Just drop it already because nobody wants it anyway anymore

No, I believe they just moved it to the Encore set.

Sorry.  I just copy n' pasted Jarmo's setlist and didn't bother to actually read it. 
BHS was played between NR and KOHD.

[mlewis]

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

It was completely sold out. It looked like there was space as the standing tickets were the same as lower tier seating- so you could move back and forth from the floor to seating- and nobody really wanted a atmosphere was electric, with 80.000+ fans singing and buzzing for almost three hours.

[Lord Stan]

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

It was completely sold out.

Of course it was but were people actually there. Yesterday many were arriving long after the show had started and not in a hurry to attend.

[allwaystired]

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

It was completely sold out.

Of course it was but were people actually there. Yesterday many were arriving long after the show had started and not in a hurry to attend.

Plus there is a MAJOR problem with touting in the UK, and tickets going unused.

Google 'Rhianna Wembley Sold Out' as an example......

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rihannas-half-empty-sold-out-8335400

[Lord Stan]

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

It was completely sold out.

Of course it was but were people actually there. Yesterday many were arriving long after the show had started and not in a hurry to attend.

Plus there is a MAJOR problem with touting in the UK, and tickets going unused.

Google 'Rhianna Wembley Sold Out' as an example......

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rihannas-half-empty-sold-out-8335400

Huh... Wow... I am aware of a some sort of a situation but it really is that bad.

[allwaystired]

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

It was completely sold out.

Of course it was but were people actually there. Yesterday many were arriving long after the show had started and not in a hurry to attend.

Plus there is a MAJOR problem with touting in the UK, and tickets going unused.

Google 'Rhianna Wembley Sold Out' as an example......

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rihannas-half-empty-sold-out-8335400

Huh... Wow... I am aware of a some sort of a situation but it really is that bad.

Yeah, it's bad! I've had lots of personal experiences of it- including being given tickets by a touting ticket agency desperately trying to fill a venue to a show that I'd tried to get tickets to but couldn't because it was sold out!

There's basically no regulation and all the official ticket selling sites have their own "secondary marketplace" (i.e. touting site) that they siphon off all the best tickets to, to sell at inflated prices. It's why at UK gigs the best seats are often empty, while the worse ones are all sold. Many of these agencies just end up throwing away the tickets they can't sell at the inflated prices (or, sometimes give them away, if they can be bothered.) What a business hey?!

[GypsySoul]

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

It was completely sold out.

Of course it was but were people actually there. Yesterday many were arriving long after the show had started and not in a hurry to attend.

Del posted these pics from today's show:

[TheBaconman]

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

It was completely sold out.

Of course it was but were people actually there. Yesterday many were arriving long after the show had started and not in a hurry to attend.

Plus there is a MAJOR problem with touting in the UK, and tickets going unused.

Google 'Rhianna Wembley Sold Out' as an example......

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rihannas-half-empty-sold-out-8335400

Huh... Wow... I am aware of a some sort of a situation but it really is that bad.

Yeah, it's bad! I've had lots of personal experiences of it- including being given tickets by a touting ticket agency desperately trying to fill a venue to a show that I'd tried to get tickets to but couldn't because it was sold out!

There's basically no regulation and all the official ticket selling sites have their own "secondary marketplace" (i.e. touting site) that they siphon off all the best tickets to, to sell at inflated prices. It's why at UK gigs the best seats are often empty, while the worse ones are all sold. Many of these agencies just end up throwing away the tickets they can't sell at the inflated prices (or, sometimes give them away, if they can be bothered.) What a business hey?!

How do they personally stay in business then?  Seems someone must be buying these tickets

[TheBaconman]

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

It was completely sold out.

Of course it was but were people actually there. Yesterday many were arriving long after the show had started and not in a hurry to attend.

Del posted these pics from today's show:

Hope I am not the only one

But a nice sunny day. Blue sky's

And this band playing?
It doesn't seem right!?!?
Or look right

[Executioner]

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

It was completely sold out.

Of course it was but were people actually there. Yesterday many were arriving long after the show had started and not in a hurry to attend.

Del posted these pics from today's show:

Hope I am not the only one

But a nice sunny day. Blue sky's

And this band playing?
It doesn't seem right!?!?
Or look right

Don't understand what you're saying,they don't go home humming the video,Punk.

[Slashrose]

Guns N Roses - Don't Cry - London Stadium 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZkiPgC-Qhg

[tim_m]

Nice to see Rosie in the setlist.

[Lord Stan]

How do they personally stay in business then?  Seems someone must be buying these tickets

Madonna is coming to your city and the tickets go in 3mins. It is nearly a year before the date but you are panicking and go online and can luckily secure a ticket for your wife and her friend. Only $1300 each but who cares, what would I not do for her.

Thousands of people do the same and the touts are laughing. The profit has already been made.

Or if it was possible for the wife to wait until few days before the gig you could find tickets for $25 each because they were not sold for a ridiculous price. Or as it seems to be in some cases, the tickets are simply thrown away and nobody gets in.

[TheBaconman]

How do they personally stay in business then?  Seems someone must be buying these tickets

Madonna is coming to your city and the tickets go in 3mins. It is nearly a year before the date but you are panicking and go online and can luckily secure a ticket for your wife and her friend. Only $1300 each but who cares, what would I not do for her.

Thousands of people do the same and the touts are laughing. The profit has already been made.

Or if it was possible for the wife to wait until few days before the gig you could find tickets for $25 each because they were not sold for a ridiculous price. Or as it seems to be in some cases, the tickets are simply thrown away and nobody gets in.

Yeah but the guy and his wife would then make the show

What was described to me here was....

This third party ticket place....    purchases tickets quick

Then marks them up to such a premium that knobody buys them...

That the reason I was give these places look empty.  3rd party vendors buys these tickets  can't sell them then they go unfilled   Someone even said they give these tickets away for free

So I am asking

How do these third party ticket people stay in buisness?   Sure seems like a total loss

Or just an excuse

[Lord Stan]

How do they personally stay in business then?  Seems someone must be buying these tickets

Madonna is coming to your city and the tickets go in 3mins. It is nearly a year before the date but you are panicking and go online and can luckily secure a ticket for your wife and her friend. Only $1300 each but who cares, what would I not do for her.

Thousands of people do the same and the touts are laughing. The profit has already been made.

Or if it was possible for the wife to wait until few days before the gig you could find tickets for $25 each because they were not sold for a ridiculous price. Or as it seems to be in some cases, the tickets are simply thrown away and nobody gets in.

Yeah but the guy and his wife would then make the show

What was described to me here was....

This third party ticket place....    purchases tickets quick

Then marks them up to such a premium that knobody buys them...

That the reason I was give these places look empty.  3rd party vendors buys these tickets  can't sell them then they go unfilled   Someone even said they give these tickets away for free

So I am asking

How do these third party ticket people stay in buisness?   Sure seems like a total loss

Or just an excuse

They stay in business because even them can still sell a few tickets. Or maybe some of them go out of business.

Tallinn, Estonia had a huge Metallica gig (around 80,000) about 8 years ago. I was there and talked to a guy who had literally about 200 printed tickets in his hand. He explained that there was a mix-up with some travel agency and something.

Of course there was not any mix-up but he had just screwed up his business

[TheBaconman]

How do they personally stay in business then?  Seems someone must be buying these tickets

Madonna is coming to your city and the tickets go in 3mins. It is nearly a year before the date but you are panicking and go online and can luckily secure a ticket for your wife and her friend. Only $1300 each but who cares, what would I not do for her.

Thousands of people do the same and the touts are laughing. The profit has already been made.

Or if it was possible for the wife to wait until few days before the gig you could find tickets for $25 each because they were not sold for a ridiculous price. Or as it seems to be in some cases, the tickets are simply thrown away and nobody gets in.

Yeah but the guy and his wife would then make the show

What was described to me here was....

This third party ticket place....    purchases tickets quick

Then marks them up to such a premium that knobody buys them...

That the reason I was give these places look empty.  3rd party vendors buys these tickets  can't sell them then they go unfilled   Someone even said they give these tickets away for free

So I am asking

How do these third party ticket people stay in buisness?   Sure seems like a total loss

Or just an excuse

Yeah sure

I think the chances are
1) not sold out
2). Fans are just weird there and some reason show up late or not at all
They stay in business because even them can still sell a few tickets. Or maybe some of them go out of business.

Tallinn, Estonia had a huge Metallica gig (around 80,000) about 8 years ago. I was there and talked to a guy who had literally about 200 printed tickets in his hand. He explained that there was a mix-up with some travel agency and something.

Of course there was not any mix-up but he had just screwed up his business

[jarmo]

How do they personally stay in business then?  Seems someone must be buying these tickets

Madonna is coming to your city and the tickets go in 3mins. It is nearly a year before the date but you are panicking and go online and can luckily secure a ticket for your wife and her friend. Only $1300 each but who cares, what would I not do for her.

Thousands of people do the same and the touts are laughing. The profit has already been made.

Or if it was possible for the wife to wait until few days before the gig you could find tickets for $25 each because they were not sold for a ridiculous price. Or as it seems to be in some cases, the tickets are simply thrown away and nobody gets in.

Yeah but the guy and his wife would then make the show

What was described to me here was....

This third party ticket place....    purchases tickets quick

Then marks them up to such a premium that knobody buys them...

That the reason I was give these places look empty.  3rd party vendors buys these tickets  can't sell them then they go unfilled   Someone even said they give these tickets away for free

So I am asking

How do these third party ticket people stay in buisness?   Sure seems like a total loss

Or just an excuse

This is an off topic discussion. Seems like you just like to focus on a few empty seats in a pretty full stadium.


For the record, there can be many reasons for you seeing empty seats in photos. For example, the sections weren't on sale because they are in a spot with reduced visibility. Or you're seeing the emergency exit....



/jarmo