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First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour
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Just got numbers from uyi tour...NITL tour started much much harder
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Thats awesome. Maybe guns hasnt peaked yet, crazy as that sounds.
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it's called inflation and higher ticket prices...pretty simple.
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Quote from: sky dog on October 02, 2016, 02:26:41 PM
it's called inflation and higher ticket prices...pretty simple.
No.I'm talking about attendance not about money...
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Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
East Troy, WI
Alpine Valley Music Theatre
May 24 & 25, 1991
Capacity: 80,000
Attendance: 75,593
Gross: $2,050,560
Ticket Prices: $40, $37.50, $32.50, $22.50
Joseph Entertainment Group
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Toledo, OH
Toledo Speedway
June 2, 1991
Capacity: 31,907
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $765,768
Ticket Prices: $25, $22.50
Cellar Door Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Toronto, ON
CNE Grandstand
June 7 & 8, 1991
Capacity: 41,384
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,082,784 ($1,241,520 Canadian)
Ticket Price: $30
Concert Prods. International
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Hershey, PA
Hersheypark Stadium
June 11, 1991
Capacity: 30,000
Attendance: 27,274
Gross: $628,460
Ticket Prices: $32.50, $22.50
Joseph Entertainment Group
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Philadelphia, PA
Spectrum
June 14, 1991
Capacity: 18,017
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $450,425
Ticket Prices: $32.50, $22.50
Electric Factory Concerts
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Uniondale, NY
Nassau Veterans? Memorial Coliseum
June 17, 1991
Capacity: 17,462
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $436,550
Ticket Price: $25
Metropolitan Entertainment
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Landover, MD
Capital Centre
June 19 & 20, 1991
Capacity: 29,767
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $818,592
Ticket Price: $27.50
Cellar Door Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Hampton, VA
Hampton Coliseum
June 22, 1991
Capacity: 13,800
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $310,500
Ticket Price: $22.50
Cellar Door Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Charlotte, NC
Charlotte Coliseum
June 23, 1991
Capacity: 17,949
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $421,802
Ticket Price: $23.50
Cellar Door Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Greensboro, NC
Greensboro Coliseum
June 25, 1991
Capacity: 9,953
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $233,895
Ticket Price: $23.50
Cellar Door Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Knoxville, TN
Thompson-Boling Arena
June 26, 1991
Capacity: 13,304
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $280,962
Ticket Price: $21.50
Cellar Door Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Lexington, KY
Rupp Arena
June 29, 1991
Capacity: 17,030
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $383,175
Ticket Price: $22.75
Cellar Door Prods. / Sunshine Promotions
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Birmingham, AL
Raceway
June 30, 1991
Capacity: 26,179
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $571,433
Ticket Price: $22.50
New Era Promotions / Cellar Door Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Dallas, TX
Starplex Amphitheater
July 8 & 9, 1991
Capacity: 40,000
Attendance: 28,639
Gross: $625,410
Ticket Price: $22.50
PACE Concerts / MCA Concerts / in-house
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Tacoma, WA
Tacoma Dome
July 16 & 17, 1991
Capacity: 25,373
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $571,730
Ticket Price: $22
Bill Graham Presents / Odgen Presents
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Mountain View, CA
Shoreline Amphitheater
July 19 & 20, 1991
Capacity: 40,000
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $934,310
Ticket Prices: $25, $22.50
Bill Graham Presents
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Costa Mesa, CA
Pacific Amphitheater
July 25, 1991
Capacity: 19,057
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $422,815
Ticket Prices: $25, $20
Nederlander Organization / Avalon Attractions
Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
Inglewood, CA
Great Western Forum
July 29, 30 & Aug. 2 & 3, 1991
Capacity: 64,527
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,613,175
Ticket Price: $25
Parc Presentations / Nederlander Organization / Avalon Attractions
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
Worcester, MA
Centrum
Dec. 5 & 6, 1991
Capacity: 28,035
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $560,700
Ticket Price: $20
Don Law Co.
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
New York City, NY
Madison Square Garden
Dec. 9, 10 & 13, 1991
Capacity: 54,491
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,339,860
Ticket Prices: $25, $22.50
Metropolitan Entertainment
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
Philadelphia, PA
Spectrum
Dec.16 & 17, 1991
Capacity: 34,439
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $688,780
Ticket Price: $20
Electric Factory Concerts
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
St. Petersburg, FL
Suncoast Dome
Dec. 28, 1991
Capacity: 32,936
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $543,444
Ticket Price: $16.50
Cellar Door Concerts
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
Miami, FL
Joe Robbie Stadium
Dec. 31, 1991
Capacity: 39,503
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $651,800
Ticket Price: $16.50
Cellar Door Concerts
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
Memphis, TN
Pyramid Arena
Jan. 7, 1992
Capacity: 19,019
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $380,380
Ticket Price: $20
Mid-South Concerts
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
Houston, TX
The Summit
Jan. 9 & 10, 1992
Capacity: 31,038
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $602,900
Ticket Price: $20
PACE Concerts
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
Dayton, OH
Erwin J. Nutter Center
Jan. 13 & 14, 1992
Capacity: 22,882
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $457,640
Ticket Price: $20
Cellar Door Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
Minneapolis, MN
Target Center
Jan. 21 & 22, 1992
Capacity: 29,556
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $591,120
Ticket Price: $20
Jam Prods. / Company 7
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
Las Vegas, NV
Thomas & Mack Center
Jan. 25, 1992
Capacity: 17,590
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $351,800
Ticket Price: $20
Evening Star Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden
San Diego, CA
Sports Arena
Jan. 27 & 28, 1992
Capacity: 28,602
Attendance: 27,979
Gross: $614,993
Ticket Price: $22.50
Avalon Attractions
Guns N? Roses, Smashing Pumpkins
Oklahoma City, OK
Myriad Arena
April 6, 1992
Capacity: 14,482
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $289,640
Ticket Price: $20
Beaver Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Smashing Pumpkins
Rosemont, IL
Rosemont Horizon
April 9, 1992
Capacity: 15,710
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $392,750
Ticket Price: $25
Jam Prods.
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Ticket prices were lower, early show in Conneticut was canceled and they were playing Hockey Areas not Football Stadiums..Trust me GNR were a HUGE deal, there was nothing but high anticipation for those shows..People wanted to see them and were curious about the new songs from the delayed UYI set.
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Quote from: LIGuns on October 02, 2016, 05:28:52 PM
Ticket prices were lower, early show in Conneticut was canceled and they were playing Hockey Areas not Football Stadiums..Trust me GNR were a HUGE deal, there was nothing but high anticipation for those shows..People wanted to see them and were curious about the new songs from the delayed UYI set.
Ok.I was fan then.But i'm suprised how many people saw GNR in thesw 30 shows...Very huge deal.
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Quote from: bolton on October 03, 2016, 09:05:25 AM
Quote from: LIGuns on October 02, 2016, 05:28:52 PM
Ticket prices were lower, early show in Conneticut was canceled and they were playing Hockey Areas not Football Stadiums..Trust me GNR were a HUGE deal, there was nothing but high anticipation for those shows..People wanted to see them and were curious about the new songs from the delayed UYI set.
Ok.I was fan then.But i'm suprised how many people saw GNR in thesw 30 shows...Very huge deal.
Yeah both of you are right. Back during UYI they were playing arenas, not football stadiums like LIGuns said. Could they have filled up football stadiums at that point? My guess is as a headliner I don't think they could have. Think about what a major accomplishment it would be for a band whose debut started making waves in summer 1988 to 3 years later after just an EP and a spattering of shows here and there to headline stadiums soon after the release of two LPs. No promoter in the world would have taken that risk I don't think, and hell even the band themselves might have agreed with them back then.
In my experience, GNR has been talked about as one of the all-time rock greats only in the last few years. I feel like it really ramped up in 2012 for the 25-year anniversary of AFD. They've reached that elite status and with Axl & Slash reuniting after decades of bad blood (no disrespect to Duff, but those are the two everyone is focused on) it justified a stadium tour. If they make it to round 2 of touring the USA, I think you'll see them play arenas again after all the excitement over the reunion has died down a bit.
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People didn't have to wait 23 years for the UYI tour ...
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Biggest thing i took from this is that Smashing Pumpkinds opened for GNR i never new that one lol.
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Quote from: WAR41 on October 03, 2016, 10:27:26 AM
Yeah both of you are right. Back during UYI they were playing arenas, not football stadiums like LIGuns said. Could they have filled up football stadiums at that point? My guess is as a headliner I don't think they could have. Think about what a major accomplishment it would be for a band whose debut started making waves in summer 1988 to 3 years later after just an EP and a spattering of shows here and there to headline stadiums soon after the release of two LPs. No promoter in the world would have taken that risk I don't think, and hell even the band themselves might have agreed with them back then.
In my experience, GNR has been talked about as one of the all-time rock greats only in the last few years. I feel like it really ramped up in 2012 for the 25-year anniversary of AFD. They've reached that elite status and with Axl & Slash reuniting after decades of bad blood (no disrespect to Duff, but those are the two everyone is focused on) it justified a stadium tour. If they make it to round 2 of touring the USA, I think you'll see them play arenas again after all the excitement over the reunion has died down a bit.
Agree with every word of this. Spot on.
I also tend to think areans of they do the States again, because it allows them to hit a lot of cities they had to skip.
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your missing the Noblesville, Indiana shows Bolton. Thanks for the stats though!
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Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Pontiac, MI
Silverdome
July 21, 1992
Capacity: 47,540
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,378,660
Ticket Price: $29
Cellar Door Prods. / Belkin Prods.
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Indianapolis, IN
Hoosier Dome
July 22, 1992
Capacity: 46,000
Attendance: 38,900
Gross: $1,039,720
Ticket Price: $27.50
Sunshine Promotions
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Buffalo, NY
Rich Stadium
July 25, 1992
Capacity: 59,326
Attendance: 44,833
Gross: $1,322,574
Ticket Price: $29.50
Metropolitan Entertainment
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Pittsburgh, PA
Three Rivers Stadium
July 26, 1992
Capacity: 49,345
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,356,988
Ticket Price: $27.50
DiCesare-Engler Prods.
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
E. Rutherford, NJ
Giants Stadium
July 29, 1992
Capacity: 55,000
Attendance: 49,250
Gross: $1,338,618
Ticket Price: $27.50
Metropolitan Entertainment
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Las Cruces, NM
Aggie Memorial Stadium
Aug. 27, 1992
Capacity: 35,373
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $972,758
Ticket Price: $27.50
Beaver Prods.
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
New Orleans, LA
Superdome
Aug. 29, 1992
Capacity: 39,278
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,080,145
Ticket Price: $27.50
Beaver Prods.
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Orlando, FL
Citrus Bowl
Sep. 2, 1992
Capacity: 50,000
Attendance: 48,035
Gross: $1,320,963
Ticket Price: $28.50
Cellar Door Concerts
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Houston, TX
Astrodome
Sep. 4, 1992
Capacity: 44,025
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,191,601
Ticket Price: $27.50
PACE Concerts
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Irving, TX
Texas Stadium
Sep. 5, 1992
Capacity: 44,391
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,220,753
Ticket Price: $27.50
PACE Concerts / Beaver Prods.
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Columbia, SC
William Brice Stadium
Sep. 7, 1992
Capacity: 40,136
Attendance: 37,716
Gross: $1,037,190
Ticket Price: $27.50
Cellar Door Concerts
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Foxboro, MA
Foxboro Stadium
Sep. 11, 1992
Capacity: 51,038
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,402,335
Ticket Price: $27.50
Tea Party Prods.
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Toronto, ON
(CNE) Exhibition Stadium
Sep. 13, 1992
Capacity: 49,888
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,332,917 ($1,621,360 Canadian)
Ticket Price: $32.50
Concert Prods. International
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Minneapolis, MN
Metrodome
Sep. 15, 1992
Capacity: 43,292
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,190,530
Ticket Price: $27.50
Jam Prods. / Company 7
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Body Count
Oakland, CA
Alameda County Stadium
Sep. 24, 1992
Capacity: 59,800
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,650,668
Ticket Price: $27.50
Bill Graham Presents
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Body Count
San Diego, CA
Jack Murphy Stadium
Sep. 30, 1992
Capacity: 45,938
Attendance: 42,167
Gross: $1,159,593
Ticket Prices: $32.50, $27.50
Bill Silva Presents / Avalon Attractions
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Motorhead
Pasadena, CA
Rose Bowl
Oct. 3, 1992
Capacity: 68,639
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $1,852,978
Ticket Price: $30
Avalon Attractions
Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Motorhead
Seattle, WA
Kingdome
Oct. 6, 1992
Capacity: 40,000
Attendance: 37,226
Gross: $1,023,715
Ticket Price: $27.50
Bauer Kinnear Enterprises / Bill Graham Presents / Ogden Presents
Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band
Boston, MA
Boston Garden
March 17, 1993
Capacity: 13,445
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $336,125
Ticket Price: $25
Don Law Co.
Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band
Iowa City, IA
Carver-Hawkeye Arena
March 20, 1993
Capacity: 15,257
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $343,283
Ticket Price: $22.50
Jam Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band
Fargo, ND
Fargodome
March 21, 1993
Capacity: 17,701
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $402,698
Ticket Price: $22.75
Jam Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Deadbeat, Honeymooners
Winnipeg, MB
Winnipeg Arena
March 24, 1993
Capacity: 15,744
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $397,188 ($493,308 Canadian)
Ticket Prices: $45, $29.50
Nite Out Entertainment / Perryscope Concert Prods. / Concert Prods. Int?l / Donald K. Donald Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band
Saskatoon, SK
Saskatchewan Place
March 27, 1993
Capacity: 12,677
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $315,964 ($393,091 Canadian)
Ticket Prices: $45, $29.50
Nite Out Entertainment / Perryscope Concert Prods. / Concert Prods. Int?l / Donald K. Donald Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band
Edmonton, AB
Northlands Coliseum
March 28, 1993
Capacity: 17,341
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $410,596 ($510,822 Canadian)
Ticket Price: $29.50
Perryscope Concert Prods. / Concert Prods. Int?l / Donald K. Donald Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band
Vancouver, BC
BC Place Stadium
March 30, 1993
Capacity: 23,000
Attendance: 21,308
Gross: $553,565 ($692,510 Canadian)
Ticket Price: $32.50
Perryscope Concert Prods. / Concert Prods. Int?l / Donald K. Donald Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band
Portland, OR
Memorial Coliseum
April 1, 1993
Capacity: 11,543
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $259,718
Ticket Price: $24
Bill Graham Presents Entertainment Consultants
Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band
Sacramento, CA
Arco Arena
April 3, 1993
Capacity: 17,000
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $382,500
Ticket Price: $22.50
Bill Graham Presents
Guns N? Roses, Blind Melon
Rapid City, SD
Rushmore Plaza Civic Center
April 9, 1993
Capacity: 11,000
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $247,500
Ticket Price: $22.50
Beaver Prods.
Guns N? Roses, Blind Melon
Omaha, NE
Civic Auditorium
April 10, 1993
Capacity: 10,694
Attendance: Sold Out
Gross: $240,615
Ticket Price: $22.50
Beaver Prods.
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It's completely wrong to compare any dollar values from 25 years ago. However, there are conversion figures if you want to know how much something was back then in today's money.
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Quote from: Lord Stan on October 04, 2016, 04:34:20 AM
It's completely wrong to compare any dollar values from 25 years ago. However, there are conversion figures if you want to know how much something was back then in today's money.
Numbers to look at are those turning up.... I know the cash values are different, but even with inflation, they will never produce a reliable indicator for comparision, bums on seats however remain indisputable.
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Talked about this in the box score thread....
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They sold 1,057,693 tickets for a total revenue of $116,835,698. They were 95 (94.66)% sold out for the entire tour.
Average ticket price for the whole tour was about $110 (not too shabby, IMHO).
Killer numbers, indeed!!
By comparison, the UYI Guns/Metallica/FNM tour sold a total of 1,109,881 tickets and was 95.86% sold out (for a grand total of $29,263,142 in gross revenue)....and they did 24 total NA shows, according to the "boxscore" I can find.
And to add more context to the Gillette number being off...max capacity of the old foxboro was listed as 51,038. I can't believe the current Gillette is 15k LESS than that.
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Pretty wild seeing those old ticket prices.
I don't think think I've paid less than 3 digits in this century.
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Yeah, this was the first proper stadium tour GN'R has done in North America. Facts are facts.
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Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour
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Quote from: jarmo on October 04, 2016, 09:59:52 AM
Yeah, this was the first proper stadium tour GN'R has done in North America. Facts are facts.
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That's what I find most impressive.
This IS the first "solo" stadium tour GnR has ever done in North America.
And, attendance wise, they pretty closely matched the numbers of a tour they did with (IMHO) 2.5 headliners, in the 90's. The GNR/Metallica/FNM tour was more a festival than it was tour.... You literally had the two biggest rock acts on the planet, at the time, on the same bill.
And GnR, in 2016, pretty much matched it.
That's fucking impressive as hell, to me.
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on October 04, 2016, 09:59:38 AM
Pretty wild seeing those old ticket prices.
I don't think think I've paid less than 3 digits in this century.
Average price "back then": $27
Average ticket price today: $110
As a direct comparison, For Foxboro and Meadowlands, I was around the 40 yard line FURTHEST from stage, lower bowl, about midway up in rows (I think it was 18 in Foxboro and 23 at the Meadowlands) in the 90's. We paid, if I remember right, about $80 a ticket with fees, etc.
This time, same spot at Met Life....they were about $175 after fees, etc....and we were the FIRST row available at that price. Everything in front of us (and closer to the stage) was $255+fees, I think.
I find that VERY typical, in terms of comparing what I paid for shows (when I had to pay) back in the 90's vs now.
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