Not in this lifetime tour boxscore-Pretty impresive

[WAR41]

Not sure why some of those numbers seem off to you.  You have to remember that because of stage set ups you lose all of the seats behind the stage.  Sure the pit and floor seats gain some of those back, but not the full seating.

Regardless according to those figures it seems like the East Rutherford shows were 1 ticket away from a double sell out 

[C0ma]

Not sure why some of those numbers seem off to you.  You have to remember that because of stage set ups you lose all of the seats behind the stage.  Sure the pit and floor seats gain some of those back, but not the full seating.

Regardless according to those figures it seems like the East Rutherford shows were 1 ticket away from a double sell out 

This is from 2014 for a concert at Gillette Stadium:

Luke Bryan broke the attendance record for a single-day country music concert at Gillette Stadium near Boston on Sunday night (Aug. 10) with more than 60,000 fans in attendance. Special guest Dierks Bentley and That?s My Kind of Night tour openers Lee Brice and Cole Swindell were also part of the lineup.

This was an end stage show with the seats behind the stage unsold. The first night at Gillette was packed, the second night they closed the third deck... so that means if the numbers are correct then on night one they would have sold ~15k less tickets than Luke Bryan and came in the second night at ~20K seats (which is much more than the upper deck being open. In two nights GnR did only 5k more than Luke Bryan did in one night?

I was at that Luke Bryan show with my wife, and was at Night One at Gillette... there weren't 15-20k less people there that night.

[Spirit]

Just did a rough calculation and assumed they'll do around 20 shows in Europe next year. Going by the average show revenue they will be at about $330 million total after an Euro leg next year. At that point the tour will be #9 on the all-time highest grossing tours list (with the lowest amount of shows in the top 10).

But if they continue the tour... well.

[tim_m]

Not sure why some of those numbers seem off to you.  You have to remember that because of stage set ups you lose all of the seats behind the stage.  Sure the pit and floor seats gain some of those back, but not the full seating.

Regardless according to those figures it seems like the East Rutherford shows were 1 ticket away from a double sell out 

This is from 2014 for a concert at Gillette Stadium:

Luke Bryan broke the attendance record for a single-day country music concert at Gillette Stadium near Boston on Sunday night (Aug. 10) with more than 60,000 fans in attendance. Special guest Dierks Bentley and That?s My Kind of Night tour openers Lee Brice and Cole Swindell were also part of the lineup.

This was an end stage show with the seats behind the stage unsold. The first night at Gillette was packed, the second night they closed the third deck... so that means if the numbers are correct then on night one they would have sold ~15k less tickets than Luke Bryan and came in the second night at ~20K seats (which is much more than the upper deck being open. In two nights GnR did only 5k more than Luke Bryan did in one night?

I was at that Luke Bryan show with my wife, and was at Night One at Gillette... there weren't 15-20k less people there that night.

Yep at my show at AT&T stadium. That stadium holds 80k for football. There's no way in hell there were 40k empty seats that night. From where i was sitting i was able to see every seat except directly below us. No way did the empty seats in the upper 400s equal 40k. In the 300s and lower there were only a few rows here in there empty. Whoever did these numbers for some of the shows needs to retake basic math.

[Spirit]

Not sure why some of those numbers seem off to you.  You have to remember that because of stage set ups you lose all of the seats behind the stage.  Sure the pit and floor seats gain some of those back, but not the full seating.

Regardless according to those figures it seems like the East Rutherford shows were 1 ticket away from a double sell out 

This is from 2014 for a concert at Gillette Stadium:

Luke Bryan broke the attendance record for a single-day country music concert at Gillette Stadium near Boston on Sunday night (Aug. 10) with more than 60,000 fans in attendance. Special guest Dierks Bentley and That?s My Kind of Night tour openers Lee Brice and Cole Swindell were also part of the lineup.

This was an end stage show with the seats behind the stage unsold. The first night at Gillette was packed, the second night they closed the third deck... so that means if the numbers are correct then on night one they would have sold ~15k less tickets than Luke Bryan and came in the second night at ~20K seats (which is much more than the upper deck being open. In two nights GnR did only 5k more than Luke Bryan did in one night?

I was at that Luke Bryan show with my wife, and was at Night One at Gillette... there weren't 15-20k less people there that night.

Yep at my show at AT&T stadium. That stadium holds 80k for football. There's no way in hell there were 40k empty seats that night. From where i was sitting i was able to see every seat except directly below us. No way did the empty seats in the upper 400s equal 40k. In the 300s and lower there were only a few rows here in there empty. Whoever did these numbers for some of the shows needs to retake basic math.

It does seem strange for a promoter to under-report numbers. If anything, it makes more "sense" to over-report, to make something seem more successful.

[faldor]

Not sure why some of those numbers seem off to you.  You have to remember that because of stage set ups you lose all of the seats behind the stage.  Sure the pit and floor seats gain some of those back, but not the full seating.

Regardless according to those figures it seems like the East Rutherford shows were 1 ticket away from a double sell out 

This is from 2014 for a concert at Gillette Stadium:

Luke Bryan broke the attendance record for a single-day country music concert at Gillette Stadium near Boston on Sunday night (Aug. 10) with more than 60,000 fans in attendance. Special guest Dierks Bentley and That?s My Kind of Night tour openers Lee Brice and Cole Swindell were also part of the lineup.

This was an end stage show with the seats behind the stage unsold. The first night at Gillette was packed, the second night they closed the third deck... so that means if the numbers are correct then on night one they would have sold ~15k less tickets than Luke Bryan and came in the second night at ~20K seats (which is much more than the upper deck being open. In two nights GnR did only 5k more than Luke Bryan did in one night?

I was at that Luke Bryan show with my wife, and was at Night One at Gillette... there weren't 15-20k less people there that night.

Yep at my show at AT&T stadium. That stadium holds 80k for football. There's no way in hell there were 40k empty seats that night. From where i was sitting i was able to see every seat except directly below us. No way did the empty seats in the upper 400s equal 40k. In the 300s and lower there were only a few rows here in there empty. Whoever did these numbers for some of the shows needs to retake basic math.

It does seem strange for a promoter to under-report numbers. If anything, it makes more "sense" to over-report, to make something seem more successful.

Where are those numbers from though? As others have stated, some seem pretty far off. They don't look official to me. Or they need to reevaluate how they formulate these numbers, because I'd contest quite a few of them. Some may be too low, others may be too high. Bottom line, I don't believe these are official numbers.

[dmathski]

Very impressive for sure!!   

[Spirit]

Where are those numbers from though? As others have stated, some seem pretty far off. They don't look official to me. Or they need to reevaluate how they formulate these numbers, because I'd contest quite a few of them. Some may be too low, others may be too high. Bottom line, I don't believe these are official numbers.

Maybe the thread starter could jump in and clarify the source of the numbers?

bolton?

[tim_m]

Not sure why some of those numbers seem off to you.  You have to remember that because of stage set ups you lose all of the seats behind the stage.  Sure the pit and floor seats gain some of those back, but not the full seating.

Regardless according to those figures it seems like the East Rutherford shows were 1 ticket away from a double sell out 

This is from 2014 for a concert at Gillette Stadium:

Luke Bryan broke the attendance record for a single-day country music concert at Gillette Stadium near Boston on Sunday night (Aug. 10) with more than 60,000 fans in attendance. Special guest Dierks Bentley and That?s My Kind of Night tour openers Lee Brice and Cole Swindell were also part of the lineup.

This was an end stage show with the seats behind the stage unsold. The first night at Gillette was packed, the second night they closed the third deck... so that means if the numbers are correct then on night one they would have sold ~15k less tickets than Luke Bryan and came in the second night at ~20K seats (which is much more than the upper deck being open. In two nights GnR did only 5k more than Luke Bryan did in one night?

I was at that Luke Bryan show with my wife, and was at Night One at Gillette... there weren't 15-20k less people there that night.

Yep at my show at AT&T stadium. That stadium holds 80k for football. There's no way in hell there were 40k empty seats that night. From where i was sitting i was able to see every seat except directly below us. No way did the empty seats in the upper 400s equal 40k. In the 300s and lower there were only a few rows here in there empty. Whoever did these numbers for some of the shows needs to retake basic math.

It does seem strange for a promoter to under-report numbers. If anything, it makes more "sense" to over-report, to make something seem more successful.

Where are those numbers from though? As others have stated, some seem pretty far off. They don't look official to me. Or they need to reevaluate how they formulate these numbers, because I'd contest quite a few of them. Some may be too low, others may be too high. Bottom line, I don't believe these are official numbers.

Hard to believe they are true when one of the reviews of my show had a picture of the crowd with a caption below saying there were about 60k at AT&T stadium.

[russkwtx]

I agree with Tim. I was at the Arlington show and was on the floor. I looked up and around many times and I saw full sections. There were a few scattered empty seats in the 400 level but basically the rest of the stadium was full. If you assume that capacity was 60,000 there had to be at least 55,000 people at the concert. There is no way in hell that there were 20,000 empty seats. No way.

You would think that coming up with correct numbers would be easy. You count how many tickets were sold. But I guess not.

[McKenzie]

This is the "source":

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/216306-not-in-this-lifetime-tour-will-be-one-of-top-grossing-tour-ever/#comment-4257591

[tim_m]

I agree with Tim. I was at the Arlington show and was on the floor. I looked up and around many times and I saw full sections. There were a few scattered empty seats in the 400 level but basically the rest of the stadium was full. If you assume that capacity was 60,000 there had to be at least 55,000 people at the concert. There is no way in hell that there were 20,000 empty seats. No way.

You would think that coming up with correct numbers would be easy. You count how many tickets were sold. But I guess not.

Yep, i mean there were a few in the upper most 400s on the side not entirely full. The rest of the stadium? Very few empty seats. At most a row or two here and there. I don't know how many seats were in the sections that weren't sold. Most of hose were 400s. I was surprised some of those weren't sold. From where i was it looked like they could've sold a few more in the 400s on the side without the view being obstructed. Like you said though, there's no way the number of empty seats were anywhere close to 20,000. Including seats that weren't even available for sale.

[pilferk]

This is the "source":

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/216306-not-in-this-lifetime-tour-will-be-one-of-top-grossing-tour-ever/#comment-4257591

The OP, in that thread, says he got it from a friend (which, to me, means NOT official) and acknowledges it could be crap.

So....there you go.

[jarmo]

Until I see these numbers on some kind of official web site, such as Billboard, I consider them work of fiction.

Apologies to anyone who might feel personally insulted by that.



/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

This is the "source":

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/216306-not-in-this-lifetime-tour-will-be-one-of-top-grossing-tour-ever/#comment-4257591

The OP, in that thread, says he got it from a friend (which, to me, means NOT official) and acknowledges it could be crap.

So....there you go.

OK, so what's the expectation then?

I guess I'm wondering why so quick to downplay what appears to be pretty solid numbers.  Venues at 95% capacity and a $132 million take.  That's pretty awesome.

I would expect this sort of skepticism around here if the numbers were bad.  Much for the same reason we were always advised to distrust any video clip where Axl sounded bad.

Are we suggesting these numbers are underreporting the situation?  If these are "fiction" from a guy that knows a guy, wouldn't a GNR superfan lean more towards exaggerating towards the positive?

[pilferk]

This is the "source":

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/216306-not-in-this-lifetime-tour-will-be-one-of-top-grossing-tour-ever/#comment-4257591

The OP, in that thread, says he got it from a friend (which, to me, means NOT official) and acknowledges it could be crap.

So....there you go.

OK, so what's the expectation then?

I guess I'm wondering why so quick to downplay what appears to be pretty solid numbers.  Venues at 95% capacity and a $132 million take.  That's pretty awesome.

I would expect this sort of skepticism around here if the numbers were bad.  Much for the same reason we were always advised to distrust any video clip where Axl sounded bad.

Are we suggesting these numbers are underreporting the situation?  If these are "fiction" from a guy that knows a guy, wouldn't a GNR superfan lean more towards exaggerating towards the positive?

Because right is right, truth is truth, and wrong is wrong, fiction is fiction. And this is where (at least for me) your narrative of "that only applies when things are bad" goes off the rails.

It's really as simple as that.  It's not about over or under reporting, here.  It's just about accuracy.  And there are numbers in that list that flat out don't make sense, don't jive with what people saw, or don't jive with previous reporting. So until we see them "officially" released, it's hard to actually form any conclusions.  Maybe they're dead on accurate, in terms of official numbers, and there's just some typos in there.

If you're asking me what the motivation would be to "make up" a set of numbers...I have no idea.  Attention? Trolling? Or maybe the FOF just got bad intel? I mean, those are just some of the possibilities.

And if you're asking why, if they're made up, why aren't they more glowing? Maybe just to appear more grounded in reality so everyone didn't, at first glance, go "no fucking way"?

They might be in the ballpark, even (I actually suspect they are).  Who knows.  But given the discrepancies and obvious "issues", I'm with jarmo.  Until someone official publishes them, I remain a skeptic. There's just too many things in there that don't look right.

[MrMojoRa]

Guns N' Roses
07/14/16
Lincoln Financial Field
Philadelphia, PA
Live Nation
Wolfmother
49,328
49,328
100%
$49 - $254
$4,883,474

Philly was not 100%. It was close, probably about 1,000 to 2,000 shy of 100%.
 

I know one thing, God, Satan, Buddha, or whomever your God is, & Mother Earth LOVE GNR. It did not rain during any of the US shows. That is divine intervention!!

[TheBaconman]

So I know a lot of tickets were still for sale on resale sites, etc, for most shows.

So when you people are saying, "I was at a show and I say some empty seats, blah blah"

Doesn't mean they were not bought and paid for.  They could of easily of been and just sitting on the resale market

[sky dog]

that is true Bacon....

As for the numbers, you would have to have a pretty active imagination to come up with that list. However, I agree that until I see it on Billboard or Pollstar, I can't buy all the way in.

[pilferk]

that is true Bacon....

As for the numbers, you would have to have a pretty active imagination to come up with that list. However, I agree that until I see it on Billboard or Pollstar, I can't buy all the way in.

C'mon..we've seen much more "interesting" and "creative" things over the years here, from fans. Weird web sites, haunted fax machines, altered photos, "Axl's" favorite pillows (Love you Coy, still in my play list!), outright FAKE "leaks" from CD, fake CD cover art passed off as real, various eccentric "insiders"..the list goes on. On the scale of crazy...."stuff"...that we've seen here, made up numbers (and I'm not saying they are, just saying IF they were) wouldn't even crack the top 5.  Maybe not even the top 10.