Studio Time in Atlanta?

[C0ma]

Chances that it's Guns who've booked the studio time? Maybe 1/100
Chances everyone shows up and isn't too tired from the gigs and travelling? 1/2
Chances that something productive is made within 2 days? 1/100
Chances that Axl and everyone else is satisfied with the results? 1/500
Chances that it ever sees the light of day? 1/???

Yeah, so in summary I'm not going to get excited by this rumor.

The 1/500 estimation on them being happy is ridiculous... several of the people in this incarnation of the band have very quickly turned around recordings... there is only one piece of the puzzle that over analyzes these things.

My hope is the new surrounding cast would be able to 'push' him though a recording and production session, but who knows.

Also something like this could be to record a single track or maybe two (like had been mentioned previously) that get added as an extra to a GH release, or a Live album from this tour.

I'm not getting overly excited or holding my breath on this either, but I don't think that a few days here couldn't be useful (maybe the same thing is mimicked in LA on the west coast between the LA and San Diego dates).

[raindog]

Chances that it's Guns who've booked the studio time? Maybe 1/100
Chances everyone shows up and isn't too tired from the gigs and travelling? 1/2
Chances that something productive is made within 2 days? 1/100
Chances that Axl and everyone else is satisfied with the results? 1/500
Chances that it ever sees the light of day? 1/???

Yeah, so in summary I'm not going to get excited by this rumor.

The 1/500 estimation on them being happy is ridiculous... several of the people in this incarnation of the band have very quickly turned around recordings... there is only one piece of the puzzle that over analyzes these things.

There have been 0 Guns N' Roses songs released as approved by Axl Rose in over 20 years. Oh My God's release was sketchy at best and Axl said it was a demo/unfinished. Even CD was pried from his hands before he was done with it. I'd say if anything 1 in 500 is conservative. I'd say the last release that was put out as desired by Axl was Sympathy for The Devil. And Slash would have blocked the release of that if he could have.

[C0ma]

There have been 0 Guns N' Roses songs released as approved by Axl Rose in over 20 years. Oh My God's release was sketchy at best and Axl said it was a demo/unfinished. Even CD was pried from his hands before he was done with it. I'd say if anything 1 in 500 is conservative. I'd say the last release that was put out as desired by Axl was Sympathy for The Devil. And Slash would have blocked the release of that if he could have.

Before we continue, let me say I don't think this Atlanta thing is anything (even though in the Opie interview one of the Atlanta reporters asks him 'where are they going to be tonight' and then follows that up with 'well we heard something')

With that said... I think you need to throw history out with this current line up. For the years that Duff and Slash were still in the band, they were junkies. This might be the first time since they met in the early 80's that they are all clean. That is a huge factor that could make their communication and ability to push each other in a place it's never been. The other thing to think about is after they left Axl didn't have an equal, and I know we don't know what their contract/partnership/agreement looks like, but Slash and Duff are going to have more input and ability to give him a kick in that ass than anyone who came after them.

[Voodoochild]

One thing that should be considered is that if there is indeed studio time, it might be only for Slash and Duff (and maybe Melissa and Richard, if he needs to redone anything). And frankly, they all could record it at home, but of course in studio they would get a more organic feel.

See, I never thought the band or even Axl follows a pattern. It may happen that he get satisfied with Slash and Duff's stuff and release it quickly. If you also consider how the attention and pressure will not be only on Axl's shoulders, it can actually help both the band and the record company to get things done rather fast.

[MrMojoRa]

One thing that should be considered is that if there is indeed studio time, it might be only for Slash and Duff (and maybe Melissa and Richard, if he needs to redone anything). And frankly, they all could record it at home, but of course in studio they would get a more organic feel.

See, I never thought the band or even Axl follows a pattern. It may happen that he get satisfied with Slash and Duff's stuff and release it quickly. If you also consider how the attention and pressure will not be only on Axl's shoulders, it can actually help both the band and the record company to get things done rather fast.

People will be more accepting of a release with Slash & Duff involved.


I still don't get the lack of love for Chinese Democracy. It is an amazing piece of work from start to finish. It blows away anything released, hard rock wise, since Use Your Illusions I & II.


The Average Joe's filling their heads with Nickelback never gave CD a chance based on the stigma of "Axl going it alone".


Edited to Add: In my world. CD even beats UYI I & II individually. Put the best 14 UYI tracks together and that's tough to beat, with only AFD topping that.

[sofine11]

Was thinking today.  I really believe that Slash & Duff recording on the next album is the best thing that could happen to bolster Axl to release new music.  Main reason being that having two other original members on the album roster would definitely lessen the amount of criticism that may or may not get lobbed solely at Axl.  Really hope they find their way into a studio in between tour legs so the next album comes out sooner than later.

[PermissionToLand]

There have been 0 Guns N' Roses songs released as approved by Axl Rose in over 20 years. Oh My God's release was sketchy at best and Axl said it was a demo/unfinished. Even CD was pried from his hands before he was done with it. I'd say if anything 1 in 500 is conservative. I'd say the last release that was put out as desired by Axl was Sympathy for The Devil. And Slash would have blocked the release of that if he could have.

With that said... I think you need to throw history out with this current line up. For the years that Duff and Slash were still in the band, they were junkies. This might be the first time since they met in the early 80's that they are all clean.

Not true. Slash was off smack by the time they recorded UYI. He relapsed a few times but only while off tour and home alone. He was still drinking heavily though.

[nick6sic6]

There have been 0 Guns N' Roses songs released as approved by Axl Rose in over 20 years. Oh My God's release was sketchy at best and Axl said it was a demo/unfinished. Even CD was pried from his hands before he was done with it. I'd say if anything 1 in 500 is conservative. I'd say the last release that was put out as desired by Axl was Sympathy for The Devil. And Slash would have blocked the release of that if he could have.

With that said... I think you need to throw history out with this current line up. For the years that Duff and Slash were still in the band, they were junkies. This might be the first time since they met in the early 80's that they are all clean.

Not true. Slash was off smack by the time they recorded UYI. He relapsed a few times but only while off tour and home alone. He was still drinking heavily though.

You are wrong,fellow fan. Slash was always a junkie up until after the Illusions lineup broke up.He was even clinically dead after an OD for a few minutes right before the Oakland 1992 concert.He then wore a cocaine t-shirt on that night ! talk about irony.It's all in his book,at least those stories were true in that book.

[ice cream sand pig]

There have been 0 Guns N' Roses songs released as approved by Axl Rose in over 20 years. Oh My God's release was sketchy at best and Axl said it was a demo/unfinished. Even CD was pried from his hands before he was done with it. I'd say if anything 1 in 500 is conservative. I'd say the last release that was put out as desired by Axl was Sympathy for The Devil. And Slash would have blocked the release of that if he could have.

With that said... I think you need to throw history out with this current line up. For the years that Duff and Slash were still in the band, they were junkies. This might be the first time since they met in the early 80's that they are all clean.

Not true. Slash was off smack by the time they recorded UYI. He relapsed a few times but only while off tour and home alone. He was still drinking heavily though.

You are wrong,fellow fan. Slash was always a junkie up until after the Illusions lineup broke up.He was even clinically dead after an OD for a few minutes right before the Oakland 1992 concert.He then wore a cocaine t-shirt on that night ! talk about irony.It's all in his book,at least those stories were true in that book.

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[allwaystired]

Personally I feel we're very very far from new material- and I've come to terms with that. I honestly don't really expect to hear anything new from GNR ever again, sad as that sounds. If it happens it'll be a massive bonus. Having said that, I'd be amazed if a live album and/or DVD doesn't appear- but other than that...I'm not holding my breath.

[TheBaconman]

One thing that should be considered is that if there is indeed studio time, it might be only for Slash and Duff (and maybe Melissa and Richard, if he needs to redone anything). And frankly, they all could record it at home, but of course in studio they would get a more organic feel.

See, I never thought the band or even Axl follows a pattern. It may happen that he get satisfied with Slash and Duff's stuff and release it quickly. If you also consider how the attention and pressure will not be only on Axl's shoulders, it can actually help both the band and the record company to get things done rather fast.

People will be more accepting of a release with Slash & Duff involved.


I still don't get the lack of love for Chinese Democracy. It is an amazing piece of work from start to finish. It blows away anything released, hard rock wise, since Use Your Illusions I & II.


The Average Joe's filling their heads with Nickelback never gave CD a chance based on the stigma of "Axl going it alone".


Edited to Add: In my world. CD even beats UYI I & II individually. Put the best 14 UYI tracks together and that's tough to beat, with only AFD topping that.

CD had a huge chance to succeed just because of the stigma.   That alone was a great marketing tool.  It sold very well the first week.

There are various reasons it didn't sell 10 million copies, way to many to talk about

I feel the biggest reason it didn't, was a lack of hit song.


Now if the current line up decides to record together and release some music.

It as well will have the stigma of the band being back.  That stigma alone will help it sell huge in the first week.

However

Without any hits, it too will fade away

[JustanUrchin]

There have been 0 Guns N' Roses songs released as approved by Axl Rose in over 20 years. Oh My God's release was sketchy at best and Axl said it was a demo/unfinished. Even CD was pried from his hands before he was done with it. I'd say if anything 1 in 500 is conservative. I'd say the last release that was put out as desired by Axl was Sympathy for The Devil. And Slash would have blocked the release of that if he could have.

With that said... I think you need to throw history out with this current line up. For the years that Duff and Slash were still in the band, they were junkies. This might be the first time since they met in the early 80's that they are all clean.

Not true. Slash was off smack by the time they recorded UYI. He relapsed a few times but only while off tour and home alone. He was still drinking heavily though.

You are wrong,fellow fan. Slash was always a junkie up until after the Illusions lineup broke up.He was even clinically dead after an OD for a few minutes right before the Oakland 1992 concert.He then wore a cocaine t-shirt on that night ! talk about irony.It's all in his book,at least those stories were true in that book.

Duff was a ?junkie??  He drank booze.  Booze is legal.  Greats in many professions?from hall of fame athletes to best-selling authors to patent holders?consume vast quantities of booze for years if not decades.

What book were you reading?  Certainly not his book authored with Bozza.  He tracks, in page-yawning detail, the periods in which he used.

Many posters on this board were likely shitting green when Duff last consumed booze on a daily basis or at their momma?s nip when Slash was cooking.

The Axl apologists forever fabricate ways to excuse Axl?s 15 songs of original material in 25 years.  And counting.  The compilation of 14 of those songs from Axl?s solo band sits on Wikipedia?s list of all-time worst albums.  Duff and Slash, meanwhile, have won a Grammy in VR.  Slash drops solo and MKC records every two years with multiple charting singles.  And Izzy?s ever-growing catalogue reminds one of Neil Young.

I, and many others, are set either way.  Gn?R will release new material or Slash will walk and release another (and another..and another...) badass rocker if Axl carries on as expected by wringing his hands over a ridiculous Liberace-inspired synth there, a mood-killing sample here, and autotuning his vocals into techno pop oblivion.

Slash holds the cards.  Axl will not?cannot?release another solo album of mid-tempo yawner piano pieces with generic guitar work under the Gn?R banner.  He indicated as much at the China Exchange Q&A.  The critical success, by any measure, of the NITL tour further bears this out.

[westcoast_junkie]

Haha  This guy⬆ Your taste is for the most good man, but by calling Gn'r Axl's solo band, you loose all credibility here. At least for me. And yes, Duff used more than alcohol. Not that it matters now.

[C0ma]

Duff was a ?junkie??  He drank booze.  Booze is legal.  Greats in many professions?from hall of fame athletes to best-selling authors to patent holders?consume vast quantities of booze for years if not decades.

Duff had a major Coke problem, that he still has sinus and septum issues to this day because of... that along with a huge drinking problem.

[D-GenerationX]

Haha  This guy⬆ Your taste is for the most good man, but by calling Gn'r Axl's solo band, you loose all credibility here. At least for me. And yes, Duff used more than alcohol. Not that it matters now.

You might lose it here, but this is just about the only place on the planet.

I can see the argument that such terms buy you nothing but grief here.  But one must also concede that outside of these friendly confines, no one bats an eye.

[TheBaconman]

So this thread turned into problems players in the band used to have?

What about this studio time!   

[C0ma]

So this thread turned into problems players in the band used to have?

What about this studio time!   

That was related to studio time, in that they might find it easier to work together than they did in the post UYI sessions just prior to their split.