Slash makes everything better.

[Walapino]

Metallica didnt open for GNR, it was a co headline tour. They actually had their stage with the snakepit,etc and played well over 2 hours! The opening band was Faith No More.

[jarmo]

Gn’R headlined in ’91 before UYI were released.  I was at Hershey Stadium that summer.  Skid Row opened.  Great times!!! 

Ok, so we found another stadium show. Great.
Toronto was also in a stadium. But that's not in the USA..

It wasn't until the following summer that Metallica opened for Gn'R.  Metallica diehards used to say "co-headlined."  Don't recall if that's how it was promo'd.  To argue that Gn'R would not have headlined U.S. stadiums without Metallica that summer (the summer after UYI were released) is simply contrarian.  And it attempts to prove a negative.  The fact remains that the UYI tour was the last time Gn'R headlined U.S. stadiums.

Nobody's arguing anything, just reminding you of history while you keep twisting and turning.
The fact remains, GN'R didn't do a proper solo stadium tour of the USA. Sure, occasional shows on tour that were mostly in arenas or those sheds.

So yeah, twist this into being an attack on the past or whatever the fuck you're trying to do. Good luck!


By the way, it was promoted as a co-headline tour.




/jarmo

[Voodoochild]

This fact devolves into personalized attacks by contrarians and revisionists.  In essence:  "Personal insult, personal insult.  And Gn'R only headlined U.S. stadiums because Metallica opened."  When one notes that the current drummer sets a faster pace, he's set upon with more personal attacks. 

Says the one who keep twisting things up, ignoring facts (there was no stadium TOUR back in the 90s) while calling others "contrarians and revisionists".

[JustanUrchin]

This fact devolves into personalized attacks by contrarians and revisionists.  In essence:  "Personal insult, personal insult.  And Gn'R only headlined U.S. stadiums because Metallica opened."  When one notes that the current drummer sets a faster pace, he's set upon with more personal attacks. 

Says the one who keep twisting things up, ignoring facts (there was no stadium TOUR back in the 90s) while calling others "contrarians and revisionists".

You mean other than all the stadiums Gn?R headlined in the U.S. in ?91 and ?92.  Count ?em up.  Wikipedia does the work for you.

Or do you mean Gn?R wasn?t TOURing when it headlined U.S. stadiums in ?91 and ?92?

Facts are pesky.

[JustanUrchin]

Gn?R headlined in ?91 before UYI were released.  I was at Hershey Stadium that summer.  Skid Row opened.  Great times!!! 

Ok, so we found another stadium show. Great.
Toronto was also in a stadium. But that's not in the USA..

It wasn't until the following summer that Metallica opened for Gn'R.  Metallica diehards used to say "co-headlined."  Don't recall if that's how it was promo'd.  To argue that Gn'R would not have headlined U.S. stadiums without Metallica that summer (the summer after UYI were released) is simply contrarian.  And it attempts to prove a negative.  The fact remains that the UYI tour was the last time Gn'R headlined U.S. stadiums.

Nobody's arguing anything, just reminding you of history while you keep twisting and turning.
The fact remains, GN'R didn't do a proper solo stadium tour of the USA. Sure, occasional shows on tour that were mostly in arenas or those sheds.

So yeah, twist this into being an attack on the past or whatever the fuck you're trying to do. Good luck!


By the way, it was promoted as a co-headline tour.




/jarmo

The last time Gn?R headlined U.S. stadiums was during the UYI period?before and after the UYI release.  Twist and turn that fact.

To your red herring:  Gn?R had top billing for the 1992 leg of the tour.  Look at the top name on a poster from those dates.  And Gn?R closed the shows on those dates.  Twist and turn those facts.

If you?re making an argument, you've lost me.  Gn?R is headlining U.S. stadiums for the first time in a generation.  That?s presumably a great thing for fans and the band itself.  It is for me, anyhow.

[jarmo]

You're the one arguing AFTER facts are pointed out to you.
Read what I said, and then respond after you understand it. Not when you think you understand or whatever.

The fact remains, GN'R didn't do a proper solo stadium tour of the USA. Sure, occasional shows on tour that were mostly in arenas or those sheds.

You're arguing about shit that's insignificant and you're fighting a losing battle against facts.... Have fun!




/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

The fact remains, GN'R didn't do a proper solo stadium tour of the USA. Sure, occasional shows on tour that were mostly in arenas or those sheds.

Which was a god damn pipe dream the past few years.  But look at us now.

Isn't that really the overall point here? 

[jarmo]

Like I said, in some ways GN'R are more popular in 2016 than ever before....

Edited to add:
I'll spell it out for those who are quick to take offense. GN'R never did a solo stadium tour in the USA or sold out stadiums in New York, Chicago, Boston or Los Angeles on their own before.
Sure, they did play stadiums on the GN'R/Metallica tour and the occasional stadium on the 1991 tour. So keep repeating it. 



/jarmo

[JAEBALL]

Like I said, in some ways GN'R are more popular in 2016 than ever before....




/jarmo

I think that is the whole point...

For me... I can finally say GNR is back where it's supposed to be ... at the top of the food chain... This summer... I am going with a group of 16 people to see Guns N Roses... something that was never going to happen at any point over the past 15 years....

So for that reason alone... "Slash makes everything better"

[jarmo]

So for that reason alone... "Slash makes everything better"

I think it's the combination..... The sum of all parts.



/jarmo

[JAEBALL]

So for that reason alone... "Slash makes everything better"

I think it's the combination..... The sum of all parts.



/jarmo

I agree.

[Voodoochild]

Well, back in the day they were big, but they were still creating their legacy. The band is huge now because of all their hard work combined with several years of people discoverying their awesome music. With Slash and Duff back, it all fits toghether again and it just works. Makes sense to me.

So for that reason alone... "Slash makes everything better"

Still not everything, IMO. What I do agree is that he makes A LOT of things better.

[D-GenerationX]

For me... I can finally say GNR is back where it's supposed to be ... at the top of the food chain... This summer... I am going with a group of 16 people to see Guns N Roses... something that was never going to happen at any point over the past 15 years....

So for that reason alone... "Slash makes everything better"

BOOM

There it is.

I couldn't get 16 people to go with me the past few years if I bought their tickets.  This year, several folks were angling to be my +1 for the Nightrain presale.

What a difference a few years make.  And it's absolutely positively awesome.

[sofine11]

For me... I can finally say GNR is back where it's supposed to be ... at the top of the food chain... This summer... I am going with a group of 16 people to see Guns N Roses... something that was never going to happen at any point over the past 15 years....

So for that reason alone... "Slash makes everything better"

BOOM

There it is.

I couldn't get 16 people to go with me the past few years if I bought their tickets.  This year, several folks were angling to be my +1 for the Nightrain presale.

What a difference a few years make.  And it's absolutely positively awesome.

Ya know what I can't wait for?  On 7/1, standing in the front of GA, turning my head to see a completely sold out Soldier Field behind me, all there to see "my band".  Something only the dynamic of Axl & Slash together could do.  It's gonna be magic.

[Alan]

So for that reason alone... "Slash makes everything better"

I think it's the combination..... The sum of all parts.



/jarmo

This should be obvious to everyone.

The guy who got my tickets for Chicago never cared for seeing Slash without Axl or Guns without Slash. And I think you'll find a lot of people who were of the same train of thought

[D-GenerationX]

Ya know what I can't wait for?  On 7/1, standing in the front of GA, turning my head to see a completely sold out Soldier Field behind me, all there to see "my band".  Something only the dynamic of Axl & Slash together could do.  It's gonna be magic.

That's what I am looking forward to most as well.

I have been going to concerts for 20 years in big, sold out buildings.  I'm talking basketball arenas and football stadiums.  And I always scanned the crowd right before the show with total envy that "my band", as you so aptly put it, could never get their fucking shit together so they could do this too.

And now, the wait is over.  A wait I figured would last the rest of my life.

[D-GenerationX]

The guy who got my tickets for Chicago never cared for seeing Slash without Axl or Guns without Slash. And I think you'll find a lot of people who were of the same train of thought

I don't know I would go quite that far.  But the reality is, I've never seen Slash live in any capacity.  Seen Axl, but not Slash.

[FreddieJames]

You're the one arguing AFTER facts are pointed out to you.
Read what I said, and then respond after you understand it. Not when you think you understand or whatever.

The fact remains, GN'R didn't do a proper solo stadium tour of the USA. Sure, occasional shows on tour that were mostly in arenas or those sheds.

You're arguing about shit that's insignificant and you're fighting a losing battle against facts.... Have fun!




/jarmo

He's done this in another topic as well. I guess it's his "thing"  

On topic: I think it's what Jarmo said already....the sum of its parts. Axl, Slash and Duff have a magic that they separately don't have. That's something that people want to see. Now add the legend and myth that has become attached to their history and BOOOM! you have a combination that sells alot of tickets.

[D-GenerationX]

He's done this in another topic as well. I guess it's his "thing"  

On topic: I think it's what Jarmo said already....the sum of its parts. Axl, Slash and Duff have a magic that they separately don't have. That's something that people want to see. Now add the legend and myth that has become attached to their history and BOOOM! you have a combination that sells alot of tickets.

And, honestly, Axl with AC/DC is perhaps the best commercial possible for their own tour.

The clips are already everywhere.  And all agree that Axl sounds incredible.  Like it or not "yeah, but can Axl still sing?" was a hurdle this tour had to overcome.

But that pro-shot 'Rock Or Bust' leaves little doubt.  Yeah, he can still sing.

[siraddam]

Guns N Roses are big again now simply because Slash is back! He's the man that people want to see on stage with Axl! That's why they can do this big tour!