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Topic: Axl confirmed as new singer for AC/DC tour (June 1, 2016: US dates announced) (Read 543609 times)
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Re: Axl confirmed as new singer for AC/DC tour (June 1: US dates announced)
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Yeah, the boots of the second Las Vegas show and that first Coachella show have pretty good sound.
And Axl sounded solid. If he sounds like that all tour, no worries.
Wouldn't you rather have him sing like he does with Ac/Dc ? He's proven that he's still capable of doing it, so there's no excuse not to do it with GNR ...
I think that would be the best case scenario, sure.
I have listened to that 'Rock Or Bust' from the first night about 1000 times. Amazing, since I find it a pretty pedestrian song, even by AC/DC standards.
But Axl sounds unreal. Sounds like the Axl of 25 years ago. The real Axl, as I would put it. I would love if he could sound like that every night for GNR.
I was simply saying that hoping for that every night is like hoping that every round of golf you shoot will be 10 under par. Might not be super realistic.
And if, instead, he simply sounds like he did on those first few GNR shows in April, that's still pretty damn good. Just don't want him sounding like he did in 2011-14, which I think is the absolute lowest point in the valley of his live career.
I don't understand that point of view. And I'm not picking a fight here.
He does it every night with Ac/Dc. I saw him in Werchter. There were a few short instances in some 'softer' passages of certain songs where Mickey came through a bit. For the rest of the show he was full on '87/'93 style, and believe me it looked like it was effortless. It's clearly a technique thing. He can switch it on and off as he pleases. All of the April shows had (what we call) the weaker voice, especially the ballads and 'softer' passages. To me those passages are unlistenable. I'll reference November Rain from the Coachella feed again. When you put that next to any of the Axl/Dc songs, the difference is cringeworthy.
If I had a ticket to a US show this summer (having been at Werchter) and he came out sounding like he did in April I'd be immensely dissapointed.
Either it's extremely painful, extremely bad for his voice in the long run, or he just doesn't want to do it / just doesn't give a fuck ...
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Quote from: Nikki_Sixx on May 21, 2016, 08:18:19 AM
just doesn't give a fuck ...
Even after all this time, some of you still believe in this myth. That's quite amazing really.
He broke his foot at the first show, shows went on as planned.
He went on tour with AC/DC, when some said he should stay at home to heal and rest his voice. Shows went on.
Yet, the "doesn't give a fuck" myth still lives on... Repeated by his fans.
Oh, "I'm not picking a fight" not trying to be "passive aggressive", just stating my opinion. Which I'm not allowed to do, apparently (yeah, poor me....
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As a side note, for a guy with a username taken form a member of Motley Crue, that's humor.
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Re: Axl confirmed as new singer for AC/DC tour (June 1: US dates announced)
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Quote from: jarmo on May 21, 2016, 08:26:21 AM
Quote from: Nikki_Sixx on May 21, 2016, 08:18:19 AM
just doesn't give a fuck ...
Even after all this time, some of you still believe in this myth. That's quite amazing really.
He broke his foot at the first show, shows went on as planned.
He went on tour with AC/DC, when some said he should stay at home to heal and rest his voice. Shows went on.
Yet, the "doesn't give a fuck" myth still lives on... Repeated by his fans.
Oh, "I'm not picking a fight" not trying to be "passive aggressive", just stating my opinion. Which I'm not allowed to do, apparently (yeah, poor me....
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As a side note, for a guy with a username taken form a member of Motley Crue, that's humor.
/jarmo
I thought I'd add 'not trying to pick a fight' just to avoid this kind of replies, but hey, seems like you can't win with you...
When I say 'not giving a fuck' I'm talking about his voice, not his fans. Ok ?
And trust me, you don't wanna hear my opinion on Vince and/or his voice ...
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I'm not fighting, I'm discussing.
I know what you were talking about.
What I meant is that I find it puzzling that some of his fans still think he doesn't give a fuck. And I gave you examples of why he does...
It's like these fans want to believe it, so they refuse to change their mind.
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Quote from: jarmo on May 21, 2016, 09:05:58 AM
I'm not fighting, I'm discussing.
I know what you were talking about.
What I meant is that I find it puzzling that some of his fans still think he doesn't give a fuck. And I gave you examples of why he does...
It's like these fans want to believe it, so they refuse to change their mind.
/jarmo
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So nothing I said makes you think "maybe I'm wrong?".
All those things some people keep repeating about Axl. He's kinda proven all those wrong lately...
Hell, even some AC/DC fans are amazed by Axl singing those songs and they were pretty against it.
So if they can be "turned around" why are some GN'R fans more stubborn?
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I was only talking about his voice !
I know he hasn't caused a riot or been seriously late for a few years now. That's not so much of a topic for me anymore.
I remember at Graspop 2012 they started early
and people in the crowd around me were pissed of !!! Can't please everyone huh ?
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So what you're saying is that you believe he doesn't give a fuck about the actual show performance?
Like I said, I just don't understand why you'd think something like that. Sorry, not trying to pick a fight and/or offend any of you by posting my opinion.
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New show. D?sseldorf, june 15th
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Quote from: jarmo on May 21, 2016, 09:05:58 AM
I'm not fighting, I'm discussing.
I know what you were talking about.
What I meant is that I find it puzzling that some of his fans still think he doesn't give a fuck. And I gave you examples of why he does...
It's like these fans want to believe it, so they refuse to change their mind.
/jarmo
I want nothing more than to change my mind on how I feel about Axl Rose. I welcome him to help me change my mind. He hasn't been very helpful
That's not on Axl. That's on you to change your own perception of him. I think Axl's voice has been great!
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Quote from: jarmo on May 21, 2016, 09:05:58 AM
I'm not fighting, I'm discussing.
I know what you were talking about.
What I meant is that I find it puzzling that some of his fans still think he doesn't give a fuck. And I gave you examples of why he does...
It's like these fans want to believe it, so they refuse to change their mind.
/jarmo
I want nothing more than to change my mind on how I feel about Axl Rose. I welcome him to help me change my mind. He hasn't been very helpful
That's not on Axl. That's on you to change your own perception of him. I think Axl's voice has been great!
That's great. And that's ok. It's called opinions. Positive or negative, we can each state our personal opinion, without starting a riot.
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I apologize for my low tolerance for bullshit....
I know some are sensitive and don't like it. Oh well!
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Quote from: Nikki_Sixx on May 21, 2016, 08:18:19 AM
If I had a ticket to a US show this summer (having been at Werchter) and he came out sounding like he did in April I'd be immensely dissapointed.
Either it's extremely painful, extremely bad for his voice in the long run, or he just doesn't want to do it / just doesn't give a fuck ...
Well, I certainly would go as far as "immensely disappointed".
For starters, a lot of the appeal of this tour for me is hearing the guitars sound right again with Slash back in the fold. Axl is always the focus, but the music is certainly still a big part.
But I think it's more than a fair question to ask why he can do it one spot and not another, if there is a real difference.
Also can't go as far as "don't give a fuck" with GNR. That's harsh. But I think its plausible to suggest that in a setting where it's not his band, not on his turf, and in front of far more skeptical fans that he'd get at a GNR show...he may push it a bit more with AC/DC.
We've also heard this style shreds his vocal chords. But this is a 12 date, once in a lifetime gig for Axl. For a short term job like that, maybe you just say "fuck it" and go all out. Consequences be damned.
AC/DC fans that kept their tickets reap the benefits. They are getting the best Axl in forever. Good for them.
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Quote from: Princess Leia on May 21, 2016, 04:15:33 AM
http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/215245-what-mr-and-mrs-young-had-to-say-about-axl/
Great read!
A fan from Vienna who met Angus and his wife. She disccused with them about Axl and the AC/DC future. Angus wife told Axl's camp to ask Axl to get rid of the hats and shades on stage
They are very happy with Axl
Angus told this fan that they are focused in this tour. And after the tour is done they will discuss what they would in the future
Great read thanks for posting
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Re: Axl confirmed as new singer for AC/DC tour (June 1: US dates announced)
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should Angus get rid of his school boy cap?
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I'm not fighting, I'm discussing.
I know what you were talking about.
What I meant is that I find it puzzling that some of his fans still think he doesn't give a fuck. And I gave you examples of why he does...
It's like these fans want to believe it, so they refuse to change their mind.
/jarmo
I want nothing more than to change my mind on how I feel about Axl Rose. I welcome him to help me change my mind. He hasn't been very helpful
That's not on Axl. That's on you to change your own perception of him. I think Axl's voice has been great!
It has been mightily impressive!
Even most of the people on the AC/DC forum that were so opposed initially are now hoping Axl stays on!
They couldn't have gotten anyone better than who they picked
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I'm not fighting, I'm discussing.
I know what you were talking about.
What I meant is that I find it puzzling that some of his fans still think he doesn't give a fuck. And I gave you examples of why he does...
It's like these fans want to believe it, so they refuse to change their mind.
/jarmo
I want nothing more than to change my mind on how I feel about Axl Rose. I welcome him to help me change my mind. He hasn't been very helpful
That's not on Axl. That's on you to change your own perception of him. I think Axl's voice has been great!
That's great. And that's ok. It's called opinions. Positive or negative, we can each state our personal opinion, without starting a riot.
And when your opinions and assumptions conflict with the
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Quote from: sky dog on May 21, 2016, 11:53:07 AM
should Angus get rid of his school boy cap?
You better start watching the shows. In case you haven't noticed Angus doesn't wear the cap during the whole show. Still you're gonna have to ask AC/DC fans whether they like to see Angus wearing a school cap or not. I don't care one way or another about Angus cap. I care about Axl and he looks better without the hat
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Re: Axl confirmed as new singer for AC/DC tour (June 1: US dates announced)
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Quote from: sky dog on May 21, 2016, 11:53:07 AM
should Angus get rid of his school boy cap?
You better start watching the shows. In case you haven't noticed Angus doesn't wear the cap during the whole show. Still you're gonna have to ask AC/DC fans whether they like to see Angus wearing a school cap or not. I don't care one way or another about Angus cap. I care about Axl and he looks better without the hat
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I think he looks more bad ass without the hats too ... But be careful somebody is going to call you gay real soon if you talk about a rock stars image. Unless ur a gal I don't know
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Re: Axl confirmed as new singer for AC/DC tour (June 1: US dates announced)
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Yeah, the boots of the second Las Vegas show and that first Coachella show have pretty good sound.
And Axl sounded solid. If he sounds like that all tour, no worries.
Wouldn't you rather have him sing like he does with Ac/Dc ? He's proven that he's still capable of doing it, so there's no excuse not to do it with GNR ...
I think that would be the best case scenario, sure.
I have listened to that 'Rock Or Bust' from the first night about 1000 times. Amazing, since I find it a pretty pedestrian song, even by AC/DC standards.
But Axl sounds unreal. Sounds like the Axl of 25 years ago. The real Axl, as I would put it. I would love if he could sound like that every night for GNR.
I was simply saying that hoping for that every night is like hoping that every round of golf you shoot will be 10 under par. Might not be super realistic.
And if, instead, he simply sounds like he did on those first few GNR shows in April, that's still pretty damn good. Just don't want him sounding like he did in 2011-14, which I think is the absolute lowest point in the valley of his live career.
I don't understand that point of view. And I'm not picking a fight here.
He does it every night with Ac/Dc. I saw him in Werchter. There were a few short instances in some 'softer' passages of certain songs where Mickey came through a bit. For the rest of the show he was full on '87/'93 style, and believe me it looked like it was effortless. It's clearly a technique thing. He can switch it on and off as he pleases. All of the April shows had (what we call) the weaker voice, especially the ballads and 'softer' passages. To me those passages are unlistenable. I'll reference November Rain from the Coachella feed again. When you put that next to any of the Axl/Dc songs, the difference is cringeworthy.
If I had a ticket to a US show this summer (having been at Werchter) and he came out sounding like he did in April I'd be immensely dissapointed.
Either it's extremely painful, extremely bad for his voice in the long run, or he just doesn't want to do it / just doesn't give a fuck ...
Normally I would say that people are entitled to their opinions but you are just wrong.
Cuz I ain't a hater like you so bow down.
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