GNR Keyboardist CHRIS PITMAN Apologizes For Calling Reunion 'Nostalgia Tour'

[faldor]

same fans over the years :

Axl touring with CD line ups > it's a cash grab, they're playing old stuff, it's a nostalgia act

Axl touring with Slash & Duff > nostalgia tour, cash grab


 

I think that was Pitman's point. All the previous tours were viewed as cash grabs by some fans. And now, since certain members appear to be excluded from these upcoming dates, those same fans are unhappy. Thus, Chris saying it's a cash grab in their eyes. I don't think that's trashing the band, just that segment of fans.

[Gunsguy]

Even if he was right in saying those things it is never a good idea to air your dirty laundry for public consumption.  Also to shit on your fans is not a good idea either unless your into that?

[faldor]

Even if he was right in saying those things it is never a good idea to air your dirty laundry for public consumption.  Also to shit on your fans is not a good idea either unless your into that?

I don't think he views it that way. The people he directed that at were not fans of HIS. I agree he probably shouldn't have done it, and so does he apparently based on his apology. But the comments were aimed at his detractors, not the fanbase as a whole.

[EmilyGNR]

Even if he was right in saying those things it is never a good idea to air your dirty laundry for public consumption.  Also to shit on your fans is not a good idea either unless your into that?

But it's fine for some "fans" to shit on him, and continually shit on GNR?

Granted, it was a mistake to engage on that level, as it has been a mistake for other members of the band over the years that chose to address that sector of the internet.

It never turns out well.

[ThatGuy]

I always loved that pic. It's like

Chris: Hey Duffster, havin the time of your life, hu? My band is a fun place to be, right?
Duff: Yeah, right...

lol exactly.

[Sosso]

I think that Chris has the same status in the fan base as Dizzy in the early 90's. But that isn't his problem. He is doing his job very well and I don't wanna miss him in GN'R.

[raindog]

same fans over the years :

Axl touring with CD line ups > it's a cash grab, they're playing old stuff, it's a nostalgia act

Axl touring with Slash & Duff > nostalgia tour, cash grab


 

That's what happens when you release one album in almost a quarter of a century yet consistently tour your old stuff.

[zombux]

I think that Chris has the same status in the fan base as Dizzy in the early 90's. But that isn't his problem. He is doing his job very well and I don't wanna miss him in GN'R.

sure, but the thing is, this is almost irrelevant now. real questions are elsewhere - like vocals quality, touring reliability and ability to release stuff (the latter is the biggest problem).

[AdZ]

sure, but the thing is, this is almost irrelevant now. real questions are elsewhere - like vocals quality, touring reliability and ability to release stuff (the latter is the biggest problem).

I honestly find it hilarious so many people have found problems to worry about.

[D-GenerationX]

same fans over the years :

Axl touring with CD line ups > it's a cash grab, they're playing old stuff, it's a nostalgia act

Axl touring with Slash & Duff > nostalgia tour, cash grab

But you have also heard many people put forth the idea that if all you are going to do is play mostly 25-30 year old material, at least do it with the actual band that made it and not a bunch of randos.

[D-GenerationX]

sure, but the thing is, this is almost irrelevant now. real questions are elsewhere - like vocals quality, touring reliability and ability to release stuff (the latter is the biggest problem).

I honestly find it hilarious so many people have found problems to worry about.

Sure beats the shit out of sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "la-la-la-la-la", no?  What's that getting you?

The reality is that Axl's ability to deliver is a big deal to this venture's viability.  Should that concern only be expressed by complete silence and denial, like the family member with the drinking problem we just all look the other way on?

[HBK]

Pitman Is Excelent Music & Producer, Is The AXE MAN...

[AdZ]

Sure beats the shit out of sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "la-la-la-la-la", no?  What's that getting you?

The reality is that Axl's ability to deliver is a big deal to this venture's viability.  Should that concern only be expressed by complete silence and denial, like the family member with the drinking problem we just all look the other way on?

Well, there's probably a lot of other things you could talk about.

For instance:

• Will there be new video content at the shows?
  
• What will the intro music be?
  
• Will the piano fly this time?
  
• Will Richard switch up his guitar rig for a 2 guitar band?
  
• Will they perform on Jimmy Kimmel?
  
• Will they perform on Jimmy Fallon?
  

...and that's just off the top of my head. A bunch of people talking about a 'venture's viability' like they're businessmen funding it instead of randoms on the internet sure seems weird to me.

This is cool! Why shit on something before it's started?

[D-GenerationX]

All well and good, but its astounding how talking about the very examples you just laid out somehow switches to "experts telling the band how it should be run" on a moment's notice.

A lot of times, I think the only answer people want to hear is "I'm sure everything will be great."

Fascinating.

[AdZ]

Well yeah, usually it's you.

You're pretty much a stone cold bummer 99% of the time.

[D-GenerationX]

Well yeah, usually it's you.

You're pretty much a stone cold bummer 99% of the time.

Yeah, life's hard.

[AdZ]

Well at least you've taken the viable opportunity to admit your own shortcomings.

[D-GenerationX]

Well at least you've taken the viable opportunity to admit your own shortcomings.

I'm not too worried about it.  I get on famously with most of the folks here.

I can't be too concerned with the few special snowflakes that need to be protected and shielded from every god damn thing. 

[AdZ]

The closet narcissist is more likely to be described as having a deflated, inadequate self-perception and greater awareness of emptiness within. The exhibitionist narcissist would be described as having an inflated, grandiose self-perception with little or no conscious awareness of the emptiness within. Such a person would assume that this condition was normal and that others were just like him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism

I'm just going to leave this here.

[jarmo]

I can't be too concerned with the few special snowflakes that need to be protected and shielded from every god damn thing. 

This coming from the same person who runs away from discussions when things get too uncomfortable for his own liking...
Yeah, you're "special" alright.



/jarmo