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Re: Alice Cooper Talks Guns N' Roses Reunion: 'Where's Izzy?'
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Quote from: GypsySoul on February 09, 2016, 05:03:45 PM
Quote from: sofine11 on February 09, 2016, 02:03:21 PM
I have to believe that if Izzy isn't there, it's because he doesn't want to be there, at least full time. And who knows what a man's reasoning could be for that? Obviously, it'd be a personal decision on his part.
Totally agree. Izzy rejoined GNR almost a decade ago on May 17, 2006. His participation over the past 10 years seems to be on his own terms and mutually agreeable between himself and all the other band members.
And IMO,
Richard and Izzy sharing the stage together
is proof positive that both Classic N' NuGNR can co-exist
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the participants choose to make it a win-win for the fans.
IMO, one of the many hazards of Steven's participation in any way/shape/form is the perceived volatility of the Axl/Slash dynamic. We the fans obviously have no idea what brought about their agreeing to this rejoining. I think a lot of us have concerns about something going awry and things coming to an abrupt end. IMO, bringing Steven and his self-serving/divisive attitude into the mix at this point in time will precipitate the undoing of the tour.
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Re: Alice Cooper Talks Guns N' Roses Reunion: 'Where's Izzy?'
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To me, what is really important is to have Izzy back in the writing process or even recording sessions.
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Quote from: Voodoochild on February 09, 2016, 07:52:20 PM
To me, what is really important is to have Izzy back in the writing process or even recording sessions.
More so than the live show, I agree.
The guy is not exactly a wizard out there. Axl himself said they used to turn down his speakers onstage.
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Every time I'm trying out a new pair of headphones the first thing I do is listening to AFD. When they're indeed good and you can hear the interplay between Slash and Izzy, it's simply jaw dropping.
Something magical happens when those two play together.
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Quote from: overmatik on February 10, 2016, 12:08:54 AM
Every time I'm trying out a new pair of headphones the first thing I do is listening to AFD. When they're indeed good and you can hear the interplay between Slash and Izzy, it's simply jaw dropping.
Something magical happens when those two play together.
Cool. I use Better and Shacklers when I try out new headphones. Not because of the stereo mix, but to feel if the bass is heavy enough, but not overblown like in some Beats headsets.
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Always loved the story on how Axl, before AFD was released, was late for an opening slot for Alice Cooper and was unable to get into the arena..Wonder why Izzy didn't sing that night...
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Love the Axl/Izzy/Alice version of Under my Wheels...Too bad Axl wasn't on the Hollywood Vampires album..Check out Whole Lotta Love and Schools Out...
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Re: Alice Cooper Talks Guns N' Roses Reunion: 'Where's Izzy?'
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Quote from: LIGuns on February 12, 2016, 06:43:20 AM
Love the Axl/Izzy/Alice version of Under my Wheels...Too bad Axl wasn't on the Hollywood Vampires album..Check out Whole Lotta Love and Schools Out...
Really looking forward to seeing Duff and Matt with them on the Grammys in a few days.
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Re: Alice Cooper Talks Guns N' Roses Reunion: 'Where's Izzy?'
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Hey guys!
Well, I would love to see any form of the 1987-1993 era. Anything as far as possible from the new GNR thing. But that's just me.
The media has little info about what goes on with Izzy, so that's why we keep listening about him being left out when we know it's not the case - I've even heard some musicians saying that. But we have to keep in mind that not every fan or journalist is on a message board discussing and watching these guys every single step. Personaly it would be HEAVEN for me to see Izzy up there with them, especially because I love the songs he sings and for me he's such a big part of the band. But I'm sure he will be there ON HIS TERMS in someway.
Although I love Steven's playing - I even went to see him live once - he's not a reliable guy just because he has a big mouth, is very impulsive and imature. I always get the impression that he has no filter, like a little kid. Matt, for me, is great. He played on the Illusions albums, was always there, and is a big part of the band just as Steven, I would love to see him as the drummer on these shows. The problem is that Matt also has a big mouth - is it a drummers's issue? LOL I haven't heard anything about him joining, only the opposite actually. I am missing something?
Oh, and about Steven being in as a favor, what I get is that Slash, Duff and Izzy try to help Steven from time to time because they know he needs their support and care about him. But they always make sure to calculate the risks first and never put themselves in a position where Steven can fuck up and make them look bad. Of course he is a great player and deserves a place in this "reunion", but his behavior does not help.
So I think we'll get Axl, Slash, Duff, Frank and Steven (as a special guest), Fortus and Izzy (when he wants to show up), Dizzy and Pittman.
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It would be great if they had a main set with the hybrid lineup and then came back for a killer five song encore with just the AFD five: Patience, Used To Love Her, Sweet Child Of Mine, Nighttrain and Paradise City. Everybody would be happy and if Steven ever messes up then Frank is there.
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Re: Alice Cooper Talks Guns N' Roses Reunion: 'Where's Izzy?'
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Quote from: Factory Girl on February 13, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
Hey guys!
Well, I would love to see any form of the 1987-1993 era. Anything as far as possible from the new GNR thing. But that's just me.
The media has little info about what goes on with Izzy, so that's why we keep listening about him being left out when we know it's not the case - I've even heard some musicians saying that. But we have to keep in mind that not every fan or journalist is on a message board discussing and watching these guys every single step. Personaly it would be HEAVEN for me to see Izzy up there with them, especially because I love the songs he sings and for me he's such a big part of the band. But I'm sure he will be there ON HIS TERMS in someway.
Although I love Steven's playing - I even went to see him live once - he's not a reliable guy just because he has a big mouth, is very impulsive and imature. I always get the impression that he has no filter, like a little kid. Matt, for me, is great. He played on the Illusions albums, was always there, and is a big part of the band just as Steven, I would love to see him as the drummer on these shows. The problem is that Matt also has a big mouth - is it a drummers's issue? LOL I haven't heard anything about him joining, only the opposite actually. I am missing something?
Oh, and about Steven being in as a favor, what I get is that Slash, Duff and Izzy try to help Steven from time to time because they know he needs their support and care about him. But they always make sure to calculate the risks first and never put themselves in a position where Steven can fuck up and make them look bad. Of course he is a great player and deserves a place in this "reunion", but his behavior does not help.
So I think we'll get Axl, Slash, Duff, Frank and Steven (as a special guest), Fortus and Izzy (when he wants to show up), Dizzy and Pittman.
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Re: Alice Cooper Talks Guns N' Roses Reunion: 'Where's Izzy?'
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To say Steven would be a risk to do a reunion is completely nuts,the main reason he was thrown out of GnR was his conflicts with Axl,if u read Slash's book he says this and while he did have problems with drugs by all accounts slash and duff were 10 times worse ,if anything they could be more of a liability going by past endeavors ,yeah we know they are sober these days but the cliff edge is never far away,slash almost died from a heroin over dose so none of them could be counted on as been reliable,,Izzy needs to be part of this the main song writer and unsung guitar hero however nothing is set in stone yet and only 5 shows announced and at this stage I'd be sweating over Axl turning up as we all know he is the most unpredictable liability in the band.
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Axl and Steven never got along and of course he would not be a risk to the reunion.
They just never wanted to deal with his shit and I'm not talking specifically about drugs. He wasn't in any of their bands after GNR, they never included him, it's not just a problem with Axl: Snakepit, Velvet Revolver, Loaded, Neurotic Outsiders, The Conspirators etc. It's not a coincidence, apparently he just doesn't have the maturity to deal with these projects, this is very well documented.
Axl just thinks it's his band and he can do whatever he wants. Duff and Slash play a completely different part than Steven, it's not even a question here.
But I would really like to see Steven, he's the one who always wanted this the most, and since he's been quiet - which is pretty unusual for him - I think he will be there in someway.
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It doesn't matter if he wasn't in any of the post gnr bands maybe he didn't want to be ,maybe he was trying to sort his drug problems out ,he is no different to the rest of them they were all trailer thrash junkies who got famous and couldn't handle it end of,Axl tried to cover it up and move on but he had a very dysfunctional and difficult upbringing and dealt with it differently ,the rest turned to drink and drugs and could not handle been rich and famous ,how long this reunion will last is anybody's guess but going by their history I can't see it lasting past the summer tour.
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Re: Alice Cooper Talks Guns N' Roses Reunion: 'Where's Izzy?'
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Not sure why a topic about Izzy is discussing Steve, nevertheless. I think Steve was thrown out because his performance became not only a hinderance but pretty embarrassing (see Farm Aid, and all interviews discussing the recording of the Illusion albums)
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Quote from: Manek on February 14, 2016, 07:34:35 PM
Not sure why a topic about Izzy is discussing Steve, nevertheless. I think Steve was thrown out because his performance became not only a hinderance but pretty embarrassing (see Farm Aid, and all interviews discussing the recording of the Illusion albums)
The reason why is because it would be too weird seeing four members of the AFD line-up in that stage and not being able to see the AFD five playing at least a couple of songs.
It would be exactly what Van Halen fans had to endure seeing the Classic line-up together again but without Michael Anthony...
Great, yes, but still missing something to make it really special.
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