DJ Says He Left GN'R - 'There's A Huge Difference Playing Somebody Else's Songs'

[pilferk]

Can we get a title edit?

Because he actually doesn't say that in the interview, so it's misleading. I'm sure he, and the interviewer, would take issue with the misquote.

He basically says that, when faced with the two options, he found that he PREFERRED playing his own songs.

There is a big..and not just semantic..difference.

[kyrie]

Add me on the "he never actually said that" side. The title is a tad misleading. DJ was actually super respectful in that interview and said he had the time of his life in GNR.

[zombux]

regardless of what he literally said, I think it's quite obvious.

DJ: "Hey Axl, I brought in some new riffs, wanna hear them? We might make a cool song, record it and release it!"
Axl: "Yeah right, but I want you to play KOHD."
DJ: "Really? Will you even show up at the rehearsal today?"
Axl: "No, not in this lifetime."

[pilferk]

regardless of what he literally said, I think it's quite obvious.

DJ: "Hey Axl, I brought in some new riffs, wanna hear them? We might make a cool song, record it and release it!"
Axl: "Yeah right, but I want you to play KOHD."
DJ: "Really? Will you even show up at the rehearsal today?"
Axl: "No, not in this lifetime."

Yeah, no.

Because, you know, he didn't actually say anything remotely like that.

You can make up your own "dream scenario" about how you think things went....but that's not remotely in the interview.  It's a story you're making up to fuel your preferred narrative.

Which is fine, but maybe be honest about it..because it's most certainly NOT what he said, or even implied, in the interview.

[zombux]

maybe, but that doesn't change the facts - DJ was in the band for 6 years, during his stint he was allowed to play exactly zero stuff involving his creative input (okay, two guitar solos can be hardly considered GNR songs), there's not a single proof he actually recorded something with GNR in the studio, so he gave up and left. which is even more desperate situation than BBF's, who was at least allowed to add some guitar parts here and there on ChiDem album. everything these guys did together in the studio, was one song (BBF's Pink Panther) - which is kind of sad, considering all the years they spent together, trying to create something more.
but sure, you can still consider this just "my dream scenario"

[pilferk]

maybe, but that doesn't change the facts - DJ was in the band for 6 years, during his sting he was allowed to play exactly zero stuff involving his creative input (okay, two guitar solos can be hardly considered GNR songs), there's not a single proof he actually recorded something with GNR in the studio, so he gave up and left. which is even more desperate situation than BBF's, who was at least allowed to add some guitar parts here and there on ChiDem album. everything these guys did together in the studio, was one song (BBF's Pink Panther) - which is kind of sad, considering all the years they spent together, trying to create something more.
but sure, you can still consider this just "my dream scenario"

Yes, because it is. Specifically the conversation you wrote, above.

Unless you can point to a place where that conversation actually happened, and was documented?  What else would you call it?

Prove that he did NOT record anything with GnR in the studio. 

Granted, nobody currently posting in this thread can prove he did, either.  But..then..there's the rub.  You're assuming the information that supports your preferred narrative.  Which is fine...you're totally entitled to your opinion.  You just aren't entitled to represent it as fact, or history, or put words in DJ (and Axl's) mouth.

Because really...all we know is: They didn't RELEASE any new material with DJ playing on it..which is different than him not having recorded any.

So...yes. The rest is supposition, theory, and...yeah...a dream scenario.  A conversation you made up....

[zombux]

eh, of course I made that up

[pilferk]

eh, of course I made that up

Right...and:

regardless of what he literally said, I think it's quite obvious.

Where in the interview is that bit, then?

Look, I'm not trying to bust balls (ok, maybe a little bit), but...in case anyone reads the thread and does NOT read the actual interview...nowhere in the interview does he make it "quite obvious" any of what you suggest in your made up conversation.  And that's what your reply sort of implies.

And it's quite the opposite.  He's actually very polite, speaks well of his time in GnR, and is quite complementary of the whole experience.

You might think its obvious, based on your preferred narrative of how it all worked, etc.....but there's NOTHING in the interview to support that.

Thus why I called it what I did.

[CherryGarcia]

maybe, but that doesn't change the facts - DJ was in the band for 6 years, during his sting he was allowed to play exactly zero stuff involving his creative input (okay, two guitar solos can be hardly considered GNR songs), there's not a single proof he actually recorded something with GNR in the studio, so he gave up and left. which is even more desperate situation than BBF's, who was at least allowed to add some guitar parts here and there on ChiDem album. everything these guys did together in the studio, was one song (BBF's Pink Panther) - which is kind of sad, considering all the years they spent together, trying to create something more.
but sure, you can still consider this just "my dream scenario"

Yes, because it is. Specifically the conversation you wrote, above.

Unless you can point to a place where that conversation actually happened, and was documented?  What else would you call it?

Prove that he did NOT record anything with GnR in the studio. 

Granted, nobody currently posting in this thread can prove he did, either.  But..then..there's the rub.  You're assuming the information that supports your preferred narrative.  Which is fine...you're totally entitled to your opinion.  You just aren't entitled to represent it as fact, or history, or put words in DJ (and Axl's) mouth.

Because really...all we know is: They didn't RELEASE any new material with DJ playing on it..which is different than him not having recorded any.

So...yes. The rest is supposition, theory, and...yeah...a dream scenario.  A conversation you made up....

DJ was in the band for 6 years, Bumblefoot was in the band for 9...Why in 9 years was Guns unable to release new material composed by the new members? If Axl really wanted to release stuff written by Ashba/Bumblefoot, don't you think he had more than enough time to do so?

[Wooody]

Can we get a title edit?

Because he actually doesn't say that in the interview, so it's misleading. I'm sure he, and the interviewer, would take issue with the misquote.

He basically says that, when faced with the two options, he found that he PREFERRED playing his own songs.

There is a big..and not just semantic..difference.

Yes, big difference.

[Spirit]

Can we get a title edit?

Because he actually doesn't say that in the interview, so it's misleading. I'm sure he, and the interviewer, would take issue with the misquote.

He basically says that, when faced with the two options, he found that he PREFERRED playing his own songs.

There is a big..and not just semantic..difference.

Yes, big difference.

Yes, I think if Sixx AM didn't exist, it's not like Dj wouldn't have wanted to continue with GN'R.

[Wooody]

maybe, but that doesn't change the facts - DJ was in the band for 6 years, during his sting he was allowed to play exactly zero stuff involving his creative input (okay, two guitar solos can be hardly considered GNR songs), there's not a single proof he actually recorded something with GNR in the studio, so he gave up and left. which is even more desperate situation than BBF's, who was at least allowed to add some guitar parts here and there on ChiDem album. everything these guys did together in the studio, was one song (BBF's Pink Panther) - which is kind of sad, considering all the years they spent together, trying to create something more.
but sure, you can still consider this just "my dream scenario"

Yes, because it is. Specifically the conversation you wrote, above.

Unless you can point to a place where that conversation actually happened, and was documented?  What else would you call it?

Prove that he did NOT record anything with GnR in the studio. 

Granted, nobody currently posting in this thread can prove he did, either.  But..then..there's the rub.  You're assuming the information that supports your preferred narrative.  Which is fine...you're totally entitled to your opinion.  You just aren't entitled to represent it as fact, or history, or put words in DJ (and Axl's) mouth.

Because really...all we know is: They didn't RELEASE any new material with DJ playing on it..which is different than him not having recorded any.

So...yes. The rest is supposition, theory, and...yeah...a dream scenario.  A conversation you made up....

DJ was in the band for 6 years, Bumblefoot was in the band for 9...Why in 9 years was Guns unable to release new material composed by the new members? If Axl really wanted to release stuff written by Ashba/Bumblefoot, don't you think he had more than enough time to do so?

Oh, but don't you know by now that Axl records hundreds of records and keeps it in a vault, and whatever gets leaked is what gets the release of the album done?  
Im half kidding.  

[pilferk]

DJ was in the band for 6 years, Bumblefoot was in the band for 9...Why in 9 years was Guns unable to release new material composed by the new members? If Axl really wanted to release stuff written by Ashba/Bumblefoot, don't you think he had more than enough time to do so?

As we've discussed, ad nauseum, time isn't always the problem.  I can't categorically answer your question..just theorize.  And you're going to theorize whatever supports your preferred narrative. And we'd just go back and forth like we always do. But, the truth is..we don't KNOW.  We're all just speculating. Right?

We've been having this conversation, literally, for years.  We don't need to rehash it, right?  Especially not in this thread since, really, it has nothing to do with the interview.  My points were made in regards to what was actually SAID by DJ in relation to what was "Obvious".

[D-GenerationX]

regardless of what he literally said, I think it's quite obvious.

DJ: "Hey Axl, I brought in some new riffs, wanna hear them? We might make a cool song, record it and release it!"
Axl: "Yeah right, but I want you to play KOHD."
DJ: "Really? Will you even show up at the rehearsal today?"
Axl: "No, not in this lifetime."

Unless you can produce a recorded conversation of this, it will be dismissed.  Even then, you could have altered the tape.  So we couldn't even go by that.

No one around here has ever used a hypothetical conversation to make a larger point.  Its wrong, disrespectful, and...frankly, dangerous.

(Oh...and it spares us having to address the larger point being made.  That part is actually a bonus!)

[Annie]

regardless of what he literally said, I think it's quite obvious.

DJ: "Hey Axl, I brought in some new riffs, wanna hear them? We might make a cool song, record it and release it!"
Axl: "Yeah right, but I want you to play KOHD."
DJ: "Really? Will you even show up at the rehearsal today?"
Axl: "No, not in this lifetime."

Unless you can produce a recorded conversation of this, it will be dismissed.  Even then, you could have altered the tape.  So we couldn't even go by that.

No one around here has ever used a hypothetical conversation to make a larger point.  Its wrong, disrespectful, and...frankly, dangerous.

(Oh...and it spares us having to address the larger point being made.  That part is actually a bonus!)

I totally agree. All we need is that dreadful alternativenation site to pick this up as a story. It's a little shameless self promotion on DJ's part to state these things now that GNR has 4 sold out shows, but hey that's how he rolls. Good luck to him. I don't think the whole world is going to embrace SIXXAM like his little demented fangirls.

[younggunner]

Im so happy DJ and Bumble are out of this band.

[GnR-NOW]

Im so happy DJ and Bumble are out of this band.

I am too, not because I needed a Reunion, but I loved Bucket and Finck ... to me they're playing styles were so different and unique, however DJ and BBF were always fan friendly

[jamillos22]

Guys, y so serious?

Didn?t DJ earlier say something about 13 songs having done with Axl?
Also, this:
"I have always been driven by my passion for creating music and Sixx:A.M. has always been a place where I can express myself honestly and share that passion..."


I think not releasing anything containing his work can definitely be considered at least one of the possible reasons why he left.

[Thorned Rose]

He's a really good guitarist, but I'm glad he's gone.

Him in the band just felt weird at times. He was like what? the 5th lead guitarist they had in 10 years? 

If him being gone means we get Slash back... then you better believe it.

He was really impressive in concert, but like he even said... he was playing "someone" else's songs.

[pilferk]

regardless of what he literally said, I think it's quite obvious.

DJ: "Hey Axl, I brought in some new riffs, wanna hear them? We might make a cool song, record it and release it!"
Axl: "Yeah right, but I want you to play KOHD."
DJ: "Really? Will you even show up at the rehearsal today?"
Axl: "No, not in this lifetime."

Unless you can produce a recorded conversation of this, it will be dismissed.  Even then, you could have altered the tape.  So we couldn't even go by that.

No one around here has ever used a hypothetical conversation to make a larger point.  Its wrong, disrespectful, and...frankly, dangerous.

(Oh...and it spares us having to address the larger point being made.  That part is actually a bonus!)

Ignoring the fact that the context of the thread is an ACTUAL INTERVIEW, so...maybe...know the room/topic?

If you're going to create a hypothetical conversation, in an ACTUAL INTERVIEW thread...I'm just saying...it might be best to label it as such, and, you know, indicate that at no point in the interview does this conversation exist, nor does any implication of any such conversation exist.

Or you can just bitch about how "put upon" you are.