General "Not In This Lifetime... Tour" thread *1st POST UPDATE NOV 30*

[D-GenerationX]

what color is your Sky? You do realize that they are VERY likely contracted employees right now.... too funny.

Hahahaha

I have to agree.  

I'm sure they have much sweeter deals than that last crop of revolving door guys, but I'd be shocked to hear they are not, at base level, hired hands.  Albeit with a bit more say (as in, more than zero) that the last batch of guys had.

[Thorned Rose]

LoL chill out boys. I never said that is what I thought had happened. That is what I want to happen. And to be honest that would really make things great for the future. It won't happen though.

No reason for Axl to do that. They are like you said hired guns... but it is kinda lame it is viewed by people like that.

[Nytunz]

I never gave a shit like some did about these guy's feelings, or how it was important to me that they mended their friendship.  I don't know these people.

I only care in so much that while I assume this is driven largely by money, you do hope there is at least some aspect of fun to this whole thing.  I don't think any of us want to see any of them up there with no interaction and all but rolling their eyes at it all.  Like they can't believe they are doing this.

If they are spending some time together beforehand, I think that's a positive.

Yeah I agree, I think the live experience for us will be different if you look at the two possible situations:

- Axl and Slash are friendly with each other again. They interact more on stage, they think it's fun to play the songs and have a good time. It will bring out the best performance they can give.

- Axl and Slash really aren't friends again but are doing this for the money. They go through the motions on stage, but there's no real chemistry to be observed.


To me, it matters if they are friends again or not.

I dont belive in nr.2. That would be a tragedy...

[GypsySoul]

Yeah I agree, I think the live experience for us will be different if you look at the two possible situations:

- Axl and Slash are friendly with each other again. They interact more on stage, they think it's fun to play the songs and have a good time. It will bring out the best performance they can give.

- Axl and Slash really aren't friends again but are doing this for the money. They go through the motions on stage, but there's no real chemistry to be observed.


To me, it matters if they are friends again or not.

I dont belive in nr.2. That would be a tragedy...

There's a famous quote that I've always attributed to Groucho Marx that Axl himself has paraphrased during shows:  The secret of success is sincerity. Fake that and you?re in.

They're entertainers.  I'm sure by now they've mastered the art of faking sincerity of being friends with people they actually dislike.  It's part of the business.  This rejoining scenario is probably no different.

[sky dog]

LoL chill out boys. I never said that is what I thought had happened. That is what I want to happen. And to be honest that would really make things great for the future. It won't happen though.

No reason for Axl to do that. They are like you said hired guns... but it is kinda lame it is viewed by people like that.

It is NOT lame. I take offense to people that think they know why the band broke up.....you were blaming Axl and saying he should apologize....you have no clue what went on but Axl has to apologize? Or, maybe, just maybe, three grown men came to the table, talked, ALL had their say and decided it was time to cash this motherfucker in!

I was just being a prick. However, I do believe 1. Axl ain't giving up the name. 2. I have no clue what their actual deal is but they will all be highly compensated if this Mothership gets off the ground.

[Thorned Rose]

Yeah it is LAME as fuck that people view Slash and Duff back in the band as "hired guns"

You're fucking nuts if you think that isn't right.

They clearly made Gn'R what it is.

[sky dog]

Izzy and Axl had no say in what Gnr is? Really? The guys who started the band and wrote the songs....again...what color is your sky?

[Spirit]

They're entertainers.  I'm sure by now they've mastered the art of faking sincerity of being friends with people they actually dislike.  It's part of the business.  This rejoining scenario is probably no different.

If that's the case, this whole thing is all about the money.

Since there's no real money in releasing music, I guess we can kiss the possibility of Axl/Slash/Duff songs goodbye as well.

A bit sad really.

[sky dog]

I think we get a few new songs.....if you are going to go big, go the whole way. 

right? I am sure they know that....

[D-GenerationX]

Yeah it is LAME as fuck that people view Slash and Duff back in the band as "hired guns"

You're fucking nuts if you think that isn't right.

It's more that we know how Axl is.

If you think there is a high probability that he ruled it all water under the bridge and brought them all back as equal partners, well...I don't share that view.

[sofine11]

what color is your Sky? You do realize that they are VERY likely contracted employees right now.... too funny.

Hahahaha

I have to agree.  

I'm sure they have much sweeter deals than that last crop of revolving door guys, but I'd be shocked to hear they are not, at base level, hired hands.  Albeit with a bit more say (as in, more than zero) that the last batch of guys had.

If not for the obvious gag order(s), I might disagree.  Or maybe it's more that they understand how fragile this whole thing is, and they're nervous they may say something may be taken the wrong way by the powers that be.

[Thorned Rose]

Izzy and Axl had no say in what Gnr is? Really? The guys who started the band and wrote the songs....again...what color is your sky?

Dude you need to learn what context is. Your take what I say out of context a lot. It's pretty annoying.

Slash and Duff not alone of course not. Axl and Izzy had a massive part in that idiot.

Your sky? What?

Viewing Slash and Duff as hired guns is stupid. Period. They were a large part of what Guns was and is.

[Thorned Rose]

Yeah it is LAME as fuck that people view Slash and Duff back in the band as "hired guns"

You're fucking nuts if you think that isn't right.

It's more that we know how Axl is.

If you think there is a high probability that he ruled it all water under the bridge and brought them all back as equal partners, well...I don't share that view.

No no no no no.

I don't think that is waht happened. That is what I WANT and waht should happen.

Omg fuck people

[EmilyGNR]

what color is your Sky? You do realize that they are VERY likely contracted employees right now.... too funny.

Hahahaha

I have to agree.  

I'm sure they have much sweeter deals than that last crop of revolving door guys, but I'd be shocked to hear they are not, at base level, hired hands.  Albeit with a bit more say (as in, more than zero) that the last batch of guys had.

If not for the obvious gag order(s), I might disagree.  Or maybe it's more that they understand how fragile this whole thing is, and they're nervous they may say something may be taken the wrong way by the powers that be.

The entire operation may be precarious, no harm in taking precautions IMO- and the shows are selling out, so all is well.

[D-GenerationX]

No no no no no.

I don't think that is waht happened. That is what I WANT and waht should happen.

Omg fuck people

Very well, I'll amend.

What you want is a god damn fantasy where we all live in gumdrop houses on lollipop lane and you need to wake the hell up to the reality we all live in with this guy and how he operates.

Better?

[sofine11]

what color is your Sky? You do realize that they are VERY likely contracted employees right now.... too funny.

Hahahaha

I have to agree.  

I'm sure they have much sweeter deals than that last crop of revolving door guys, but I'd be shocked to hear they are not, at base level, hired hands.  Albeit with a bit more say (as in, more than zero) that the last batch of guys had.

If not for the obvious gag order(s), I might disagree.  Or maybe it's more that they understand how fragile this whole thing is, and they're nervous they may say something may be taken the wrong way by the powers that be.

The entire operation may be precarious, no harm in taking precautions IMO- and the shows are selling out, so all is well.

And I would agree.  I just find it odd that (other than maybe Led Zep) they're about to embark on the most wanted reunion in rock history and NO ONE has anything to say about it. 

[draguns]

What is there to say at this point? The shows are selling out. I would rather them be quiet, rehearse, and do an amazing show. As former NY Giants head coach, Tom Coughlin, would say: "Talk is cheap. Play the game".

[sky dog]

Izzy and Axl had no say in what Gnr is? Really? The guys who started the band and wrote the songs....again...what color is your sky?

Dude you need to learn what context is. Your take what I say out of context a lot. It's pretty annoying.

Slash and Duff not alone of course not. Axl and Izzy had a massive part in that idiot.

Your sky? What?

Viewing Slash and Duff as hired guns is stupid. Period. They were a large part of what Guns was and is.

I never said I viewed them as hired Guns...just busting your balls.

You don't really know what the fuck you are talking about. It's pretty annoying. Last I checked, 1991 was 25 years ago....been there and done that.

[pilferk]

No no no no no.

I don't think that is waht happened. That is what I WANT and waht should happen.

Omg fuck people

Very well, I'll amend.

What you want is a god damn fantasy where we all live in gumdrop houses on lollipop lane and you need to wake the hell up to the reality we all live in with this guy and how he operates.

Better?

Dx and i don't often agree...but when we do...i buy shots of patron.

Shots all around.

[GypsySoul]

They're entertainers.  I'm sure by now they've mastered the art of faking sincerity of being friends with people they actually dislike.  It's part of the business.  This rejoining scenario is probably no different.

If that's the case, this whole thing is all about the money.

Since there's no real money in releasing music, I guess we can kiss the possibility of Axl/Slash/Duff songs goodbye as well.

A bit sad really.

Totally disagree.  Even if they all hate each other, it doesn't necessarily mean the rejoining is all about the money.

Why can't it be all about love of the music and love of the GNR brand itself?

Every day people all over the world put their personal differences aside to work toward a common goal.

New GNR music can very well be that common goal behind this rejoining ...... and the money!!!