General "Not In This Lifetime... Tour" thread *1st POST UPDATE NOV 30*

[pilferk]

Yeah, I wrote Boston although the rumor said Foxborough, and the only venue I found to be there was Gillette Stadium.


Eddie Money over at mygnr suggested that the North American tour could run as far as mid-September, with dates mainly in the weekends.

Yeah, Gillette would be the odds of favorite for a "Boston stadium show"..even though it's like 40 min-ish away from the city (and in the middle of nowhere).

And the "mostly weekends" thing is genius.  It's something I've said most bands should consider, in the past.  It REALLY does provide a decent attendance boost.  I know why some bands don't want to do it (the cost of keeping the crew on the road, without a show to offset the costs)... but, especially for a big stadium tour like is being rumored, I suspect the additional bodies in the stadium would offset the costs.

[pilferk]

That would be awesome.

On a weekend, I don't care when they go on.  Still think its ridiculous going onstage at 11PM or some shit, but a lot easier to deal when you don't have to be at work like 6 hours after the concert ends.

See, I'd be totally OK with an 11 PM start time (so long as the advertised on stage for them was, say 10 PM) because, lets face it...there's going to be PLENTY of "pregaming" before the show.

[D-GenerationX]

See, I'd be totally OK with an 11 PM start time (so long as the advertised on stage for them was, say 10 PM) because, lets face it...there's going to be PLENTY of "pregaming" before the show.

On like, a Tuesday though? 

I'm very fortunate to live very close to the arena/stadium complex here in Philly.  So if I bolt right after the encore, once I'm out of the lot, I'm home in 15 minutes.

But not everyone is that lucky.

So if you are going on at 11, finishing up around 2, and then you have like an hour to still get home?  With work the next morning?  Tall order.

My beef has always been that no other band asks their fans to do that.  And "if you don't like it, stay home" is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

[pilferk]

On like, a Tuesday though? 

I'm very fortunate to live very close to the arena/stadium complex here in Philly.  So if I bolt right after the encore, once I'm out of the lot, I'm home in 15 minutes.

But not everyone is that lucky.

So if you are going on at 11, finishing up around 2, and then you have like an hour to still get home?  With work the next morning?  Tall order.

My beef has always been that no other band asks their fans to do that.  And "if you don't like it, stay home" is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

I have, of every time I've seen GnR (and that's a whole lotta times from '88 to now) ONLY gone to work ONCE day after show (interestingly enough, the morning after the Foxboro show in '92...and I live 2 hours away and had to open the store I was working at for 6 AM).  I take the days off.  So...yeah to both, really.

Now, is everybody going to want (or be able to) do that? Probably not.  But I think that's true of any show ending after 11 PM, really.  So...in for a penny, in for a pound.

Thus why I applaud if the rumor of "mostly weekends" turns out to be true.

[Thorned Rose]

Just go on stage at 9:30 or so. How hard is that?

[pilferk]

Just go on stage at 9:30 or so. How hard is that?

That's really not the discussion we're having...and the "why can't they be on time" or "why can't they go on earlier" is such a dead horse topic, and has been done to death for so long...I've no interest in rehashing it.

Maybe you'll find other takers, though...

[D-GenerationX]

Just go on stage at 9:30 or so. How hard is that?

Like every other major band?  Who the fuck knows, but its obviously not something that's going to happen.

But if going on super late is just a dealbreaker and something that MUST happen, this weekend theory is a nice compromise, really.

Be interested to see just when they do take the stage.  Slash made it VERY clear in his book late starts were no god damn good. 

[sofine11]

Just go on stage at 9:30 or so. How hard is that?

Like every other major band?  Who the fuck knows, but its obviously not something that's going to happen.

But if going on super late is just a dealbreaker and something that MUST happen, this weekend theory is a nice compromise, really.

Be interested to see just when they do take the stage.  Slash made it VERY clear in his book late starts were no god damn good. 

He sure did.  Even when he was questioned a couple years back about how he felt about Duff playing with Axl again, he made it a point to say that they went on late, and that would have put a bad taste in his mouth.

However, if these alleged large-scale weekend shows are part of the deal, it might make going on around 10-11 seem less insane to these guys.

[Spirit]

What has been the norm in the later years? Like 10-10:30?

Since there has been improvement over the past years, I think chances are good they'll keep that up.

[sofine11]

What has been the norm in the later years? Like 10-10:30?

Since there has been improvement over the past years, I think chances are good they'll keep that up.

I think 10 sounds about right for the last few years....Though it was 11:45 PM when they went on during the Chicago UCAP show in '12.  I honestly don't think there's a set time standard though. 

I will say that, as a GNR fans who understands Axl's nocturnal nature, that's it's never bothered me that much.  You figure if he's waking up in the late afternoon/early evening, he's got a shit load to do be able to do what he does onstage.

I'm 30 now, but the first time I saw GNR was in 02, when I was a 17 year old kid with school the next morning. And that was Catholic high school with a 7:45 start.   

[GNR4LIFEJD]

At this point in their careers i wouldn't get too caught up in start time because who knows how many more tours this version of gnr or any other version of gnr have left so if they went on at 1am i would be fine with that because this has been my fav band for over 20 years iv been fortunate enough to see them 3 times and any opportunity i get to see them ill take.

[The Wight Gunner]

Should do what I do when we need to be somewhere, for an 8pm start (we are no more the 30 minutes from anywhere I say its a 7pm start, so Mrs Wight Gunner decides thats the time we leave.... Tell Axl its a 7pm start should be good to go at 9pm 

[Spirit]

You guys think we'll see the next announcement this week?

I think they will go through with the general sale of Mexico City, then announce the next date(s). Maybe a single second Mexico show first, then the US shows at a later time (sometime this month maybe).

Beyonce announced her full US stadium tour yesterday. That might give us some indication to when we can expect GN'R to move forward.

[sandman]

I think they announce another show or 2 later this week, then the full tour announced next tuesday. Just a guess based on rumors of various dates.

Weekends only would be smart. Metallica did that on summer sanitarium in 2003, and it worked out really well. They played every fri, sat, and sun for 6 or 7 straight weeks (might have been one or two exceptions). It was great knowing your hometown show was definitely going to be on a weekend. And 4 of my friends went to a second show the following week in DC after seeing the philly show. Again, being on a weekend made that possible for them.

[Spirit]

I think they announce another show or 2 later this week, then the full tour announced next tuesday. Just a guess based on rumors of various dates.

Yeah, there was a mention of an option for a second show in Mexico City, but maybe that turns out to be the rumored Monterrey show

Either that or maybe both.

[Lord Stan]

We all work in different countries and the rumour has it you don't really have paid time off in the US

I couldn't care less what day a show is on. True, Saturday night is of course the best as you can start drinking on Friday afternoon and get ready for the show

Also, so many people nowadays work at weekends as well then having regular weekdays off. But if you really need to think about missing a show because of work simply get a better job. Or learn to stay awake a bit. Or be a little tired at work. Or take a sick day but then that's unpaid again?

But missing a show because the boss says so, guys, really?

[D-GenerationX]

But if you really need to think about missing a show because of work simply get a better job. Or learn to stay awake a bit. Or be a little tired at work. Or take a sick day but then that's unpaid again?

But missing a show because the boss says so, guys, really?

This is 100% backwards.

People can't miss work BECAUSE its not a shit job.  These are real world, big boy jobs most of us have at this stage of our life.

When we were in high school or college, and working at the fast food/restaurant/golf course...who cared?  We were dumb kids that were going to that show, hell or high water.  Fucking fire us if you have to.  Not like this is going to be our life's work, this job we took for beer and weed money.

But we aren't kids anymore.  This is real life.  Odds are, you tell the boss you can't show up the next day because you have to totally rock out, dude...that's not going to be a good look.

And once again, please tell me what other major band asks fans to risk LOSING THEIR JOB because they can't get their asses on stage at a reasonable hour?  Who?  Who is that other major band?

[Spirit]

Let's not dwell on the late thing even before the tour has started...

I think chances are good this won't be a problem this time around.

[Thorned Rose]

LoL I was just saying going on at 9 or 9:30 seems pretty reasonable right?

I don't get why its this mythical thing. Regardless of when they go on I'll be happy to be there.

[D-GenerationX]

LoL I was just saying going on at 9 or 9:30 seems pretty reasonable right?

9 or 9:30 would be a miracle.  10 is probably best case scenario.