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What Axl had to deal with all those years of he being strung out and drunk? Same
as Duff..... Slash playing with Scott *RIP * AND hearing Slash speak about how difficult it was working with him, surely has made a light bulb go off in his head and made him realize that Axl had to deal with the EXACT SAME thing for years dealing with and working with them.
You'd think any way
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I just wish I could have blew a few lines with them all.
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yeah, it is really weird to think about how awesome it would have been to snort a fat line of blow with the band then watch them perform at the ritz in the late 80's hoss.
yeah, real weird.
do you think wanting to have sex with your girlfriend is weird to..
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well, at least the guy who tried to call me weird for wanting to blow some rails with the original five deleted his post.
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Quote from: D on January 19, 2016, 03:52:52 PM
What Axl had to deal with all those years of he being strung out and drunk? Same
as Duff..... Slash playing with Scott *RIP * AND hearing Slash speak about how difficult it was working with him, surely has made a light bulb go off in his head and made him realize that Axl had to deal with the EXACT SAME thing for years dealing with and working with them.
You'd think any way
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I don't think Slash regrets anything. It is pretty clear that from the 1989 Rolling Stones gigs when he called out Slash and the band that things turned for the worse. I know the band was pretty screwed up aside from Izzy, who got clean soon after, but Slash and Duff had to deal with a lot of crap from Axl too.
I just don't see him regretting much honestly. I think Axl's personality and controlling demeanor added to some of the substance abuse.
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Quote from: Thorned Rose on January 22, 2016, 12:25:14 PM
I don't think Slash regrets anything. It is pretty clear that from the 1989 Rolling Stones gigs when he called out Slash and the band that things turned for the worse. I know the band was pretty screwed up aside from Izzy, who got clean soon after, but Slash and Duff had to deal with a lot of crap from Axl too.
I just don't see him regretting much honestly. I think Axl's personality and controlling demeanor added to some of the substance abuse.
I concur. Not to condone Slash's rampant drug/alcohol abuse, but the GNR atmosphere at that time -- including the obviously psychological effects of constantly dealing with Axl's behavior -- wasn't exactly conducive towards getting clean either.
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I'm sure Slash and company had to deal with a lot of things from Axl, as well. I think maybe they just all grew up, changed, and managed to put the past behind them with the realization that what they had together was pretty special. Let's hope they can move forward successfully!
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January 23, 2016, 05:42:35 PM »
I think everyone here is making sense.
Things got bad and fucked up in several different directions at the end of that UYI tour. Time apart was inevitable.
But then, after awhile you just think,
"what...am I just going to be mad for the rest of my life?"
Now, I thought Axl would be. It's awesome that they worked it out.
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on January 23, 2016, 05:42:35 PM
I think everyone here is making sense.
Things got bad and fucked up in several different directions at the end of that UYI tour. Time apart was inevitable.
But then, after awhile you just think,
"what...am I just going to be mad for the rest of my life?"
Now, I thought Axl would be. It's awesome that they worked it out.
FYI: You could have just *clicked* the Modify button to correct 'made' to 'mad' so you didn't have to type the entire thing over again.
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Not a fan of that "edited by" deal.
Could just be a corrected spelling mistake. Could be you said something and are now backtracking and manipulating the situation. The reader never knows.
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oh okay. just trying to help.
On topic: Don't think Slash is thinking that at all. They were all in a similar boat at the time. Steven took it to the extreme even by everyone else's (low) standards so he got fired
by everyone
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Quote from: Thorned Rose on January 22, 2016, 12:25:14 PM
Quote from: D on January 19, 2016, 03:52:52 PM
What Axl had to deal with all those years of he being strung out and drunk? Same
as Duff..... Slash playing with Scott *RIP * AND hearing Slash speak about how difficult it was working with him, surely has made a light bulb go off in his head and made him realize that Axl had to deal with the EXACT SAME thing for years dealing with and working with them.
You'd think any way
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I don't think Slash regrets anything. It is pretty clear that from the 1989 Rolling Stones gigs when he called out Slash and the band that things turned for the worse. I know the band was pretty screwed up aside from Izzy, who got clean soon after, but Slash and Duff had to deal with a lot of crap from Axl too.
I just don't see him regretting much honestly. I think Axl's personality and controlling demeanor added to some of the substance abuse.
"I just don't see him regretting much honestly. I think Axl's personality and controlling demeanor added to some of the substance abuse."
Calling BS on this statement, you can't justify junkie behavior or using by demonizing someone's supposed behavior.
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I remember an old interview with Beta,where she mentioned that Axl could not trust Slash,he wasn't reliable being high all the time.
That changed of course over the years,sobriety kicked in, Weiland's issues factored in and here we are !
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on January 25, 2016, 07:37:36 PM
"I just don't see him regretting much honestly. I think Axl's personality and controlling demeanor added to some of the substance abuse."
Calling BS on this statement, you can't justify junkie behavior or using by demonizing someone's supposed behavior.
"supposed"?
You talk like its some urban legend.
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Yeah... he clearly had some serious issues. The Chicago trip/botched thing was one of the many examples...
Hey lets all go to Chicago.. since its close to Lafayette... and we'll record and make some head way...
4 weeks later..
ya coming?
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Quote from: Thorned Rose on January 28, 2016, 05:03:05 PM
Yeah... he clearly had some serious issues. The Chicago trip/botched thing was one of the many examples...
Hey lets all go to Chicago.. since its close to Lafayette... and we'll record and make some head way...
4 weeks later..
ya coming?
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on January 25, 2016, 07:37:36 PM
"I just don't see him regretting much honestly. I think Axl's personality and controlling demeanor added to some of the substance abuse."
Calling BS on this statement, you can't justify junkie behavior or using by demonizing someone's supposed behavior.
"supposed"?
You talk like its some urban legend.
So - say- if someone exhibits a certain behavior, that justifies a junkie to go imbibe in a substance ? Right-
This is called enabling an addiction, I don't buy into that.
If you have ever actually been around an addict or tried to work with someone addicted/high all the time you could appreciate how difficult it actually is- the addiction leads to other behaviors as well, such as lying and making excuses to get high/drunk/stoned etc.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on January 29, 2016, 01:26:22 PM
So - say- if someone exhibits a certain behavior, that justifies a junkie to go imbibe in a substance ? Right-
This is called enabling an addiction, I don't buy into that.
If you have ever actually been around an addict or tried to work with someone addicted/high all the time you could appreciate how difficult it actually is- the addiction leads to other behaviors as well, such as lying and making excuses to get high/drunk/stoned etc.
All of which I agree with 100%. A junkie needs no excuse or reason to get high.
But, unless I am mistaken, you seemed to also take issue with the concept that Axl is extremely tough to deal with and can be very controlling. I would hope very much you weren't going to try and argue that has not been the case, because that is not a serious position.
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on January 29, 2016, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: EmilyGNR on January 29, 2016, 01:26:22 PM
So - say- if someone exhibits a certain behavior, that justifies a junkie to go imbibe in a substance ? Right-
This is called enabling an addiction, I don't buy into that.
If you have ever actually been around an addict or tried to work with someone addicted/high all the time you could appreciate how difficult it actually is- the addiction leads to other behaviors as well, such as lying and making excuses to get high/drunk/stoned etc.
All of which I agree with 100%. A junkie needs no excuse or reason to get high.
But, unless I am mistaken, you seemed to also take issue with the concept that Axl is extremely tough to deal with and can be very controlling. I would hope very much you weren't going to try and argue that has not been the case, because that is not a serious position.
I was merely stating that regardless of what behavior/attitude was supposedly exhibited or displayed it is
no
reason or justification to use that as an excuse to get high/drink/use.
An addict can always find or invent a reason to maintain his addiction.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on January 29, 2016, 03:36:13 PM
I was merely stating that regardless of what behavior/attitude was supposedly exhibited or displayed it is
no
reason or justification to use that as an excuse to get high/drink/use.
An addict can always find or invent a reason to maintain his addiction.
Very much agreed.
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