Slash & Fortus

[EmilyGNR]

maybe, but GNR still lacks a solo guitar virtuoso, so we can possibly say goodbye to ChiDem songs in their full shape.

Slash could easily play all those solos.

 

Shacklers?  That is NOT his style.

and don't get me wrong.....I love Slash, but different player play different things

Whos gives a damn? I DON'T want to hear Shackler's Revenge on this tour/Coachella

omg who gives a fuck

I do give, and you can find lot's of other GNR fans that do give too.

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

I really like CD... so who are you trying to kid? I just don't want to hear Shackley's Revenge man. Who gives a fuck about that?

I'm cool with like 4 CD songs. Lets be honest here though... Gn'R is 85-95 in reality. It always will be.

Ouch. 

Wrong.

You may not like other lineups but that does not mean the band only existed in the years you mentioned.

No I like the other lineups. Aside from the lead guiar issues the bassists/rhythm sections were the same. Axl/Fortus/Stinson was a mainstay from like 2001 onward. Drummers changed like what once in 06? I'm cool with other people being in the band and them playing CD songs.

I just don't want a setlist with 10 CD songs. I mean it isn't what I would want to hear. And like it or not, Gn'R is what the older guys brought. That is what it is. that 10 yearish period from 85 to 95 or so. The whole 1 album in 16 years Gn'R (yes I'm being nice 98-14) doesn't cut it for me. That isn't a "band".

Aside from Axl/Fortus/Stinson and maybe Ferrer the rest can get bent and have no bearing on the Gn'R legacy to me.

What a stupid statement, of course it was a band- look up the definition if you have any doubts. 

Also- you don't get to decide what comprises GNR, or what GNR is and isnt- that is misplaced entitlement nonsense. You can like it, and support it- or you can choose not to- but you don't get to decide what GNR is- look up legacy definition while you're at it.

[CherryGarcia]

maybe, but GNR still lacks a solo guitar virtuoso, so we can possibly say goodbye to ChiDem songs in their full shape.

Slash could easily play all those solos.

 

Shacklers?  That is NOT his style.

and don't get me wrong.....I love Slash, but different player play different things

Whos gives a damn? I DON'T want to hear Shackler's Revenge on this tour/Coachella

omg who gives a fuck

I do give, and you can find lot's of other GNR fans that do give too.

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

I really like CD... so who are you trying to kid? I just don't want to hear Shackley's Revenge man. Who gives a fuck about that?

I'm cool with like 4 CD songs. Lets be honest here though... Gn'R is 85-95 in reality. It always will be.

Ouch. 

Wrong.

You may not like other lineups but that does not mean the band only existed in the years you mentioned.

No I like the other lineups. Aside from the lead guiar issues the bassists/rhythm sections were the same. Axl/Fortus/Stinson was a mainstay from like 2001 onward. Drummers changed like what once in 06? I'm cool with other people being in the band and them playing CD songs.

I just don't want a setlist with 10 CD songs. I mean it isn't what I would want to hear. And like it or not, Gn'R is what the older guys brought. That is what it is. that 10 yearish period from 85 to 95 or so. The whole 1 album in 16 years Gn'R (yes I'm being nice 98-14) doesn't cut it for me. That isn't a "band".

Aside from Axl/Fortus/Stinson and maybe Ferrer the rest can get bent and have no bearing on the Gn'R legacy to me.

What a stupid statement, of course it was a band- look up the definition if you have any doubts. 

Also- you don't get to decide what comprises GNR, or what GNR is and isnt- that is misplaced entitlement nonsense. You can like it, and support it- or you can choose not to- but you don't get to decide what GNR is- look up legacy definition while you're at it.

Who wrote all the lyrics, melodies and determined, in every sense (musically and from a business perspective) what was to be? Who told the band what to play, and how to play it? Who determined what take would be the one that was used? Who determined if, when and where the band would take the stage?

Compare this to another group also named Guns N' Roses where the writing of lyrics and melodies as well as strategic direction and business decisions were shared and not simply made unilaterally.

[EmilyGNR]

maybe, but GNR still lacks a solo guitar virtuoso, so we can possibly say goodbye to ChiDem songs in their full shape.

Slash could easily play all those solos.

 

Shacklers?  That is NOT his style.

and don't get me wrong.....I love Slash, but different player play different things

Whos gives a damn? I DON'T want to hear Shackler's Revenge on this tour/Coachella

omg who gives a fuck

I do give, and you can find lot's of other GNR fans that do give too.

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

I really like CD... so who are you trying to kid? I just don't want to hear Shackley's Revenge man. Who gives a fuck about that?

I'm cool with like 4 CD songs. Lets be honest here though... Gn'R is 85-95 in reality. It always will be.

Ouch. 

Wrong.

You may not like other lineups but that does not mean the band only existed in the years you mentioned.

No I like the other lineups. Aside from the lead guiar issues the bassists/rhythm sections were the same. Axl/Fortus/Stinson was a mainstay from like 2001 onward. Drummers changed like what once in 06? I'm cool with other people being in the band and them playing CD songs.

I just don't want a setlist with 10 CD songs. I mean it isn't what I would want to hear. And like it or not, Gn'R is what the older guys brought. That is what it is. that 10 yearish period from 85 to 95 or so. The whole 1 album in 16 years Gn'R (yes I'm being nice 98-14) doesn't cut it for me. That isn't a "band".

Aside from Axl/Fortus/Stinson and maybe Ferrer the rest can get bent and have no bearing on the Gn'R legacy to me.

What a stupid statement, of course it was a band- look up the definition if you have any doubts. 

Also- you don't get to decide what comprises GNR, or what GNR is and isnt- that is misplaced entitlement nonsense. You can like it, and support it- or you can choose not to- but you don't get to decide what GNR is- look up legacy definition while you're at it.

Who wrote all the lyrics, melodies and determined, in every sense (musically and from a business perspective) what was to be? Who told the band what to play, and how to play it? Who determined what take would be the one that was used? Who determined if, when and where the band would take the stage?

Compare this to another group also named Guns N' Roses where the writing of lyrics and melodies as well as strategic direction and business decisions were shared and not simply made unilaterally.

Derp!

Has nothing to do with that poster I was responding to saying it wasn't a band.

Of course it is/was a band- that is not up for debate.

YOU don't get to decide what is and isn't GNR either, despite all your little list of descriptions.

It is and was GNR whether you like it or not

[CherryGarcia]

maybe, but GNR still lacks a solo guitar virtuoso, so we can possibly say goodbye to ChiDem songs in their full shape.

Slash could easily play all those solos.

 

Shacklers?  That is NOT his style.

and don't get me wrong.....I love Slash, but different player play different things

Whos gives a damn? I DON'T want to hear Shackler's Revenge on this tour/Coachella

omg who gives a fuck

I do give, and you can find lot's of other GNR fans that do give too.

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

I really like CD... so who are you trying to kid? I just don't want to hear Shackley's Revenge man. Who gives a fuck about that?

I'm cool with like 4 CD songs. Lets be honest here though... Gn'R is 85-95 in reality. It always will be.

Ouch. 

Wrong.

You may not like other lineups but that does not mean the band only existed in the years you mentioned.

No I like the other lineups. Aside from the lead guiar issues the bassists/rhythm sections were the same. Axl/Fortus/Stinson was a mainstay from like 2001 onward. Drummers changed like what once in 06? I'm cool with other people being in the band and them playing CD songs.

I just don't want a setlist with 10 CD songs. I mean it isn't what I would want to hear. And like it or not, Gn'R is what the older guys brought. That is what it is. that 10 yearish period from 85 to 95 or so. The whole 1 album in 16 years Gn'R (yes I'm being nice 98-14) doesn't cut it for me. That isn't a "band".

Aside from Axl/Fortus/Stinson and maybe Ferrer the rest can get bent and have no bearing on the Gn'R legacy to me.

What a stupid statement, of course it was a band- look up the definition if you have any doubts. 

Also- you don't get to decide what comprises GNR, or what GNR is and isnt- that is misplaced entitlement nonsense. You can like it, and support it- or you can choose not to- but you don't get to decide what GNR is- look up legacy definition while you're at it.

Who wrote all the lyrics, melodies and determined, in every sense (musically and from a business perspective) what was to be? Who told the band what to play, and how to play it? Who determined what take would be the one that was used? Who determined if, when and where the band would take the stage?

Compare this to another group also named Guns N' Roses where the writing of lyrics and melodies as well as strategic direction and business decisions were shared and not simply made unilaterally.

Derp!

Has nothing to do with that poster I was responding to saying it wasn't a band.

Of course it is/was a band- that is not up for debate.

YOU don't get to decide what is and isn't GNR either, despite all your little list of descriptions.

It is and was GNR whether you like it or not

What separates a band, in the common sense of the word, from a solo project to you?
Is Nine Inch Nails a band?

[Voodoochild]

I'd like to hear these two jam the Godfather Theme. Ha!

x

Actually, that's a good idea. I mean, it could be another song for a duo, like Robin and Richard did with Beautiful.

[HBK]

You Imagine:

- Slash
- Robin Finck
- Richard Fortus

 

[damnthehaters]

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

YOU are now officially crazy ... 

Chinese songs will be played just like Illusion or Spaghetti songs will be played. Illusion and Spaghetti lineup was different than Apppetite.  It's ALL GNR.

Very poor logic there. AFD to UYI simply changed the drummer and added a keyboardist. (Izzy was on the album and its conception, just left into the tour). The Spaghetti album is a little different but its just Gilby on guitar and not izzy. So even then it still was Axl/Slash/Duff/Sorum/Clarke/Reed which is pretty close to the original.

And you're acting like the 98+ lineups of Axl/Fortus/Stinson/Buckethead/Ashba/Reed/Mantia/Ferrer/Finck/Bumblefoot/Tobias      is just the same?

Check yourself. lmao

You don't have to name all the lineups for me bro.  and weather you like it or not, Chinese songs may very well be played, because Chinese is GNR.  By your logic, "pretty close" is ok....but once Slash and Duff left...than its not ok.  Get real

[EmilyGNR]

maybe, but GNR still lacks a solo guitar virtuoso, so we can possibly say goodbye to ChiDem songs in their full shape.

Slash could easily play all those solos.

 

Shacklers?  That is NOT his style.

and don't get me wrong.....I love Slash, but different player play different things

Whos gives a damn? I DON'T want to hear Shackler's Revenge on this tour/Coachella

omg who gives a fuck

I do give, and you can find lot's of other GNR fans that do give too.

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

I really like CD... so who are you trying to kid? I just don't want to hear Shackley's Revenge man. Who gives a fuck about that?

I'm cool with like 4 CD songs. Lets be honest here though... Gn'R is 85-95 in reality. It always will be.

Ouch. 

Wrong.

You may not like other lineups but that does not mean the band only existed in the years you mentioned.

No I like the other lineups. Aside from the lead guiar issues the bassists/rhythm sections were the same. Axl/Fortus/Stinson was a mainstay from like 2001 onward. Drummers changed like what once in 06? I'm cool with other people being in the band and them playing CD songs.

I just don't want a setlist with 10 CD songs. I mean it isn't what I would want to hear. And like it or not, Gn'R is what the older guys brought. That is what it is. that 10 yearish period from 85 to 95 or so. The whole 1 album in 16 years Gn'R (yes I'm being nice 98-14) doesn't cut it for me. That isn't a "band".

Aside from Axl/Fortus/Stinson and maybe Ferrer the rest can get bent and have no bearing on the Gn'R legacy to me.

What a stupid statement, of course it was a band- look up the definition if you have any doubts. 

Also- you don't get to decide what comprises GNR, or what GNR is and isnt- that is misplaced entitlement nonsense. You can like it, and support it- or you can choose not to- but you don't get to decide what GNR is- look up legacy definition while you're at it.

Who wrote all the lyrics, melodies and determined, in every sense (musically and from a business perspective) what was to be? Who told the band what to play, and how to play it? Who determined what take would be the one that was used? Who determined if, when and where the band would take the stage?

Compare this to another group also named Guns N' Roses where the writing of lyrics and melodies as well as strategic direction and business decisions were shared and not simply made unilaterally.

Derp!

Has nothing to do with that poster I was responding to saying it wasn't a band.

Of course it is/was a band- that is not up for debate.

YOU don't get to decide what is and isn't GNR either, despite all your little list of descriptions.

It is and was GNR whether you like it or not

What separates a band, in the common sense of the word, from a solo project to you?
Is Nine Inch Nails a band?

Nice attempt to deflect-.

GNR is/was  GNR whether they meet your little specifications or not.

Do not care about NIN.

[EmilyGNR]

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

YOU are now officially crazy ... 

Chinese songs will be played just like Illusion or Spaghetti songs will be played. Illusion and Spaghetti lineup was different than Apppetite.  It's ALL GNR.

Very poor logic there. AFD to UYI simply changed the drummer and added a keyboardist. (Izzy was on the album and its conception, just left into the tour). The Spaghetti album is a little different but its just Gilby on guitar and not izzy. So even then it still was Axl/Slash/Duff/Sorum/Clarke/Reed which is pretty close to the original.

And you're acting like the 98+ lineups of Axl/Fortus/Stinson/Buckethead/Ashba/Reed/Mantia/Ferrer/Finck/Bumblefoot/Tobias      is just the same?

Check yourself. lmao

You don't have to name all the lineups for me bro.  and weather you like it or not, Chinese songs may very well be played, because Chinese is GNR.  By your logic, "pretty close" is ok....but once Slash and Duff left...than its not ok.  Get real

Seems to be a lot of these people springing up that think they get to decide what GNR is and isn't, depending on what they like

[CherryGarcia]

maybe, but GNR still lacks a solo guitar virtuoso, so we can possibly say goodbye to ChiDem songs in their full shape.

Slash could easily play all those solos.

 

Shacklers?  That is NOT his style.

and don't get me wrong.....I love Slash, but different player play different things

Whos gives a damn? I DON'T want to hear Shackler's Revenge on this tour/Coachella

omg who gives a fuck

I do give, and you can find lot's of other GNR fans that do give too.

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

I really like CD... so who are you trying to kid? I just don't want to hear Shackley's Revenge man. Who gives a fuck about that?

I'm cool with like 4 CD songs. Lets be honest here though... Gn'R is 85-95 in reality. It always will be.

Ouch. 

Wrong.

You may not like other lineups but that does not mean the band only existed in the years you mentioned.

No I like the other lineups. Aside from the lead guiar issues the bassists/rhythm sections were the same. Axl/Fortus/Stinson was a mainstay from like 2001 onward. Drummers changed like what once in 06? I'm cool with other people being in the band and them playing CD songs.

I just don't want a setlist with 10 CD songs. I mean it isn't what I would want to hear. And like it or not, Gn'R is what the older guys brought. That is what it is. that 10 yearish period from 85 to 95 or so. The whole 1 album in 16 years Gn'R (yes I'm being nice 98-14) doesn't cut it for me. That isn't a "band".

Aside from Axl/Fortus/Stinson and maybe Ferrer the rest can get bent and have no bearing on the Gn'R legacy to me.

What a stupid statement, of course it was a band- look up the definition if you have any doubts. 

Also- you don't get to decide what comprises GNR, or what GNR is and isnt- that is misplaced entitlement nonsense. You can like it, and support it- or you can choose not to- but you don't get to decide what GNR is- look up legacy definition while you're at it.

Who wrote all the lyrics, melodies and determined, in every sense (musically and from a business perspective) what was to be? Who told the band what to play, and how to play it? Who determined what take would be the one that was used? Who determined if, when and where the band would take the stage?

Compare this to another group also named Guns N' Roses where the writing of lyrics and melodies as well as strategic direction and business decisions were shared and not simply made unilaterally.

Derp!

Has nothing to do with that poster I was responding to saying it wasn't a band.

Of course it is/was a band- that is not up for debate.

YOU don't get to decide what is and isn't GNR either, despite all your little list of descriptions.

It is and was GNR whether you like it or not

What separates a band, in the common sense of the word, from a solo project to you?
Is Nine Inch Nails a band?

Nice attempt to deflect-.

GNR is/was  GNR whether they meet your little specifications or not.

Do not care about NIN.

You're the one deflecting. What's the difference between a solo project, and a band to you?
GN'R from 1997-2014 was GN'R....in a legal sense. In a business and artistic sense, it was a solo project.
I mean, if Axl sold the rights to the name Guns N' Roses to another artist, and they made records totally unaffiliated with Axl (or any past or current member) under the Guns N' Roses name...It'd be 100% Guns N' Roses in your book?

[HBK]

maybe, but GNR still lacks a solo guitar virtuoso, so we can possibly say goodbye to ChiDem songs in their full shape.

Slash could easily play all those solos.

 

Shacklers?  That is NOT his style.

and don't get me wrong.....I love Slash, but different player play different things

Whos gives a damn? I DON'T want to hear Shackler's Revenge on this tour/Coachella

omg who gives a fuck

I do give, and you can find lot's of other GNR fans that do give too.

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

I really like CD... so who are you trying to kid? I just don't want to hear Shackley's Revenge man. Who gives a fuck about that?

I'm cool with like 4 CD songs. Lets be honest here though... Gn'R is 85-95 in reality. It always will be.

Ouch. 

Wrong.

You may not like other lineups but that does not mean the band only existed in the years you mentioned.

No I like the other lineups. Aside from the lead guiar issues the bassists/rhythm sections were the same. Axl/Fortus/Stinson was a mainstay from like 2001 onward. Drummers changed like what once in 06? I'm cool with other people being in the band and them playing CD songs.

I just don't want a setlist with 10 CD songs. I mean it isn't what I would want to hear. And like it or not, Gn'R is what the older guys brought. That is what it is. that 10 yearish period from 85 to 95 or so. The whole 1 album in 16 years Gn'R (yes I'm being nice 98-14) doesn't cut it for me. That isn't a "band".

Aside from Axl/Fortus/Stinson and maybe Ferrer the rest can get bent and have no bearing on the Gn'R legacy to me.

What a stupid statement, of course it was a band- look up the definition if you have any doubts. 

Also- you don't get to decide what comprises GNR, or what GNR is and isnt- that is misplaced entitlement nonsense. You can like it, and support it- or you can choose not to- but you don't get to decide what GNR is- look up legacy definition while you're at it.

Who wrote all the lyrics, melodies and determined, in every sense (musically and from a business perspective) what was to be? Who told the band what to play, and how to play it? Who determined what take would be the one that was used? Who determined if, when and where the band would take the stage?

Compare this to another group also named Guns N' Roses where the writing of lyrics and melodies as well as strategic direction and business decisions were shared and not simply made unilaterally.

Derp!

Has nothing to do with that poster I was responding to saying it wasn't a band.

Of course it is/was a band- that is not up for debate.

YOU don't get to decide what is and isn't GNR either, despite all your little list of descriptions.

It is and was GNR whether you like it or not

What separates a band, in the common sense of the word, from a solo project to you?
Is Nine Inch Nails a band?

Nice attempt to deflect-.

GNR is/was  GNR whether they meet your little specifications or not.

Do not care about NIN.

You're the one deflecting. What's the difference between a solo project, and a band to you?
GN'R from 1997-2014 was GN'R....in a legal sense. In a business and artistic sense, it was a solo project.
I mean, if Axl sold the rights to the name Guns N' Roses to another artist, and they made records totally unaffiliated with Axl (or any past or current member) under the Guns N' Roses name...It'd be 100% Guns N' Roses in your book?

From 1987 To 1996 Also

 

[Thorned Rose]

This is unreal... way too many liberal thinking people out there.

Guns N' Roses is clear a band now and it always has been.

When you release 1 album in a period of 10 years as a band it doesn't go in the same level as actual Guns N' Roses. You have to admit this.

Guns N' Roses produced 4 studio albums (AFD, UYI 1 and 2, TSI?) in a period of 7 years or so. I'm not counting Lies... as it is hardly a LP.

When you look at it from a point of credibility... Nu GN'R seems very unofficial to me. Mostly because of the constant lead guitarist changes over the years. Plus it took 2 leads to make 1 Slash.

I do like the newer Guns N' Roses. I saw them live and they were just fantastic. I think too many people here just want Chinese Democracy II... and that isn't going to happen now.

Deal with it.

[HBK]

This is unreal... way too many liberal thinking people out there.

Guns N' Roses is clear a band now and it always has been.

When you release 1 album in a period of 10 years as a band it doesn't go in the same level as actual Guns N' Roses. You have to admit this.

Guns N' Roses produced 4 studio albums (AFD, UYI 1 and 2, TSI?) in a period of 7 years or so. I'm not counting Lies... as it is hardly a LP.

When you look at it from a point of credibility... Nu GN'R seems very unofficial to me. Mostly because of the constant lead guitarist changes over the years. Plus it took 2 leads to make 1 Slash.

I do like the newer Guns N' Roses. I saw them live and they were just fantastic. I think too many people here just want Chinese Democracy II... and that isn't going to happen now.

Deal with it.

False

 

[CherryGarcia]

maybe, but GNR still lacks a solo guitar virtuoso, so we can possibly say goodbye to ChiDem songs in their full shape.

Slash could easily play all those solos.

 

Shacklers?  That is NOT his style.

and don't get me wrong.....I love Slash, but different player play different things

Whos gives a damn? I DON'T want to hear Shackler's Revenge on this tour/Coachella

omg who gives a fuck

I do give, and you can find lot's of other GNR fans that do give too.

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

I really like CD... so who are you trying to kid? I just don't want to hear Shackley's Revenge man. Who gives a fuck about that?

I'm cool with like 4 CD songs. Lets be honest here though... Gn'R is 85-95 in reality. It always will be.

Ouch. 

Wrong.

You may not like other lineups but that does not mean the band only existed in the years you mentioned.

No I like the other lineups. Aside from the lead guiar issues the bassists/rhythm sections were the same. Axl/Fortus/Stinson was a mainstay from like 2001 onward. Drummers changed like what once in 06? I'm cool with other people being in the band and them playing CD songs.

I just don't want a setlist with 10 CD songs. I mean it isn't what I would want to hear. And like it or not, Gn'R is what the older guys brought. That is what it is. that 10 yearish period from 85 to 95 or so. The whole 1 album in 16 years Gn'R (yes I'm being nice 98-14) doesn't cut it for me. That isn't a "band".

Aside from Axl/Fortus/Stinson and maybe Ferrer the rest can get bent and have no bearing on the Gn'R legacy to me.

What a stupid statement, of course it was a band- look up the definition if you have any doubts. 

Also- you don't get to decide what comprises GNR, or what GNR is and isnt- that is misplaced entitlement nonsense. You can like it, and support it- or you can choose not to- but you don't get to decide what GNR is- look up legacy definition while you're at it.

Who wrote all the lyrics, melodies and determined, in every sense (musically and from a business perspective) what was to be? Who told the band what to play, and how to play it? Who determined what take would be the one that was used? Who determined if, when and where the band would take the stage?

Compare this to another group also named Guns N' Roses where the writing of lyrics and melodies as well as strategic direction and business decisions were shared and not simply made unilaterally.

Derp!

Has nothing to do with that poster I was responding to saying it wasn't a band.

Of course it is/was a band- that is not up for debate.

YOU don't get to decide what is and isn't GNR either, despite all your little list of descriptions.

It is and was GNR whether you like it or not

What separates a band, in the common sense of the word, from a solo project to you?
Is Nine Inch Nails a band?

Nice attempt to deflect-.

GNR is/was  GNR whether they meet your little specifications or not.

Do not care about NIN.

You're the one deflecting. What's the difference between a solo project, and a band to you?
GN'R from 1997-2014 was GN'R....in a legal sense. In a business and artistic sense, it was a solo project.
I mean, if Axl sold the rights to the name Guns N' Roses to another artist, and they made records totally unaffiliated with Axl (or any past or current member) under the Guns N' Roses name...It'd be 100% Guns N' Roses in your book?

From 1987 To 1996 Also

 

And the legal entity and partnership which existed from 1985 to 1996 was a different legal entity than what existed after 1996. Even from a legal perspective, GN'R prior to 1996 and GN'R after 1996 were two different 'groups':

"This will serve as notice [that] effective Decemeber 30th 1995, I will withdraw from the partnership. I intend to use the name 'Guns N' Roses' in connection with a new group which I will form." - Axl's letter to Slash and Duff, 8/31/1995.

[HBK]

maybe, but GNR still lacks a solo guitar virtuoso, so we can possibly say goodbye to ChiDem songs in their full shape.

Slash could easily play all those solos.

 

Shacklers?  That is NOT his style.

and don't get me wrong.....I love Slash, but different player play different things

Whos gives a damn? I DON'T want to hear Shackler's Revenge on this tour/Coachella

omg who gives a fuck

I do give, and you can find lot's of other GNR fans that do give too.

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

I really like CD... so who are you trying to kid? I just don't want to hear Shackley's Revenge man. Who gives a fuck about that?

I'm cool with like 4 CD songs. Lets be honest here though... Gn'R is 85-95 in reality. It always will be.

Ouch. 

Wrong.

You may not like other lineups but that does not mean the band only existed in the years you mentioned.

No I like the other lineups. Aside from the lead guiar issues the bassists/rhythm sections were the same. Axl/Fortus/Stinson was a mainstay from like 2001 onward. Drummers changed like what once in 06? I'm cool with other people being in the band and them playing CD songs.

I just don't want a setlist with 10 CD songs. I mean it isn't what I would want to hear. And like it or not, Gn'R is what the older guys brought. That is what it is. that 10 yearish period from 85 to 95 or so. The whole 1 album in 16 years Gn'R (yes I'm being nice 98-14) doesn't cut it for me. That isn't a "band".

Aside from Axl/Fortus/Stinson and maybe Ferrer the rest can get bent and have no bearing on the Gn'R legacy to me.

What a stupid statement, of course it was a band- look up the definition if you have any doubts. 

Also- you don't get to decide what comprises GNR, or what GNR is and isnt- that is misplaced entitlement nonsense. You can like it, and support it- or you can choose not to- but you don't get to decide what GNR is- look up legacy definition while you're at it.

Who wrote all the lyrics, melodies and determined, in every sense (musically and from a business perspective) what was to be? Who told the band what to play, and how to play it? Who determined what take would be the one that was used? Who determined if, when and where the band would take the stage?

Compare this to another group also named Guns N' Roses where the writing of lyrics and melodies as well as strategic direction and business decisions were shared and not simply made unilaterally.

Derp!

Has nothing to do with that poster I was responding to saying it wasn't a band.

Of course it is/was a band- that is not up for debate.

YOU don't get to decide what is and isn't GNR either, despite all your little list of descriptions.

It is and was GNR whether you like it or not

What separates a band, in the common sense of the word, from a solo project to you?
Is Nine Inch Nails a band?

Nice attempt to deflect-.

GNR is/was  GNR whether they meet your little specifications or not.

Do not care about NIN.

You're the one deflecting. What's the difference between a solo project, and a band to you?
GN'R from 1997-2014 was GN'R....in a legal sense. In a business and artistic sense, it was a solo project.
I mean, if Axl sold the rights to the name Guns N' Roses to another artist, and they made records totally unaffiliated with Axl (or any past or current member) under the Guns N' Roses name...It'd be 100% Guns N' Roses in your book?

From 1987 To 1996 Also

 

And the legal entity and partnership which existed from 1985 to 1996 was a different legal entity than what existed after 1996. Even from a legal perspective, GN'R prior to 1996 and GN'R after 1996 were two different 'groups':

"This will serve as notice [that] effective Decemeber 30th 1995, I will withdraw from the partnership. I intend to use the name 'Guns N' Roses' in connection with a new group which I will form." - Axl's letter to Slash and Duff, 8/31/1995.

Yes, New Members For GNR

 

[Thorned Rose]

I'm with you Cherry Garcia.

I don't even know how this thing got hijacked like this. It's a shame.

We all love Guns N' Roses, but it is pretty clear that some people aren't that excited about the old band reuniting and are wanting elements of post 1998 Gn'R to be included with this via music, and style.

If I could pick my way... I'd have the Original lineup back (Axl/Izzy/Slash/Duff/Adler) with Dizzy Reed (fuck chris pittman) and then have fortus/Ferrer on standby in case something stupid happens.

That probably won't happen and I"m very cool with Fortus and Ferrer being in, if that is what comes true.

Guns N' Roses has existed in 2 different entities. 85-98 and then everything after 98.

Slash was out in 96, Matt in 97 and then Duff in 98.

For a brief time in 1998 all you had was Axl Rose, Paul Tobias, and Dizzy Reed lmao....

Tommy Stinson to me is almost as important as Duff based on his long tenure in Gn'R, but with just 1 album its hard to make it equal. Other than Axl obviously... no one else in New Guns n' Roses is even close. Well maybe Fortus. That's it.

[CherryGarcia]

I'm with you Cherry Garcia.

I don't even know how this thing got hijacked like this. It's a shame.

We all love Guns N' Roses, but it is pretty clear that some people aren't that excited about the old band reuniting and are wanting elements of post 1998 Gn'R to be included with this via music, and style.

If I could pick my way... I'd have the Original lineup back (Axl/Izzy/Slash/Duff/Adler) with Dizzy Reed (fuck chris pittman) and then have fortus/Ferrer on standby in case something stupid happens.

That probably won't happen and I"m very cool with Fortus and Ferrer being in, if that is what comes true.

Guns N' Roses has existed in 2 different entities. 85-98 and then everything after 98.

Slash was out in 96, Matt in 97 and then Duff in 98.

For a brief time in 1998 all you had was Axl Rose, Paul Tobias, and Dizzy Reed lmao....

Tommy Stinson to me is almost as important as Duff based on his long tenure in Gn'R, but with just 1 album its hard to make it equal. Other than Axl obviously... no one else in New Guns n' Roses is even close. Well maybe Fortus. That's it.

Duff left in '97 as well. Matt was fired in April or May 1997, and Duff left in the first two weeks of August 1997, just before his daughter was born.

[Thorned Rose]

Oh oops. Wasn't sure really.

[Bazfreak]

Anyone knows when and under what circumstances Gilby left the band?

[damnthehaters]

You need to understand that ChiDem is a GNR album just as AFD is. And that it's as good as any other GNR album. Time to act like a grown up and accept it.

YOU are now officially crazy ... 

Chinese songs will be played just like Illusion or Spaghetti songs will be played. Illusion and Spaghetti lineup was different than Apppetite.  It's ALL GNR.

Very poor logic there. AFD to UYI simply changed the drummer and added a keyboardist. (Izzy was on the album and its conception, just left into the tour). The Spaghetti album is a little different but its just Gilby on guitar and not izzy. So even then it still was Axl/Slash/Duff/Sorum/Clarke/Reed which is pretty close to the original.

And you're acting like the 98+ lineups of Axl/Fortus/Stinson/Buckethead/Ashba/Reed/Mantia/Ferrer/Finck/Bumblefoot/Tobias      is just the same?

Check yourself. lmao

You don't have to name all the lineups for me bro.  and weather you like it or not, Chinese songs may very well be played, because Chinese is GNR.  By your logic, "pretty close" is ok....but once Slash and Duff left...than its not ok.  Get real

Seems to be a lot of these people springing up that think they get to decide what GNR is and isn't, depending on what they like

Yep.  Now that Slash and Duff are back, they think they know all the answers and how things are.  What they don't understand is that their opinion isn't the truth.